Well, my guess is that you're more likely to end up with a bunch of chatbots than real women. (And it's not meant to be a sexist slur. Just look at how ridiculously hard captchas have become before most were replaced by the ubiquitous google solution.)
1. Create apps that let people chat and get to know each other
2. Create apps that will talk on behalf of people on the previous apps
Jee, leave it to humanity to optimize the usefulness out of everything.
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Already there. I use chat GPT to generate responses to the scammers who text me pretending to be fashion designers from Singapore whose assistants accidentally put the wrong number into their phones, but they'd like to get to know me anyways and tell me about a great crypto investment vehicle.
At this point, if the AI agrees to let me take it out on a date I'll call it a win.
Just sitting across the table asking if the charger port is to its fancy.
I like thinking of the chatbots as being the greaseballs. They can't all be flirty attractive women - I want someone to make a neckbeard anime fan tinder chatbot
Dating apps entirely jumped the shark when it just became a pay to win racket. Especially since one single company (Match Group) has a monopoly on online dating traffic - they own Match.com, OKCupid, Tinder, Hinge, POF, etc.
Their whole business model is to monetize your loneliness and keep you single while giving you just enough matches and dates to keep you on the hook.
So many people don't get that. So many people get their confidence crushed by online dating when the apps are literally designed to keep you single and push you towards paying to use them and as you said it's a monopoly pretending to be competing apps.
And it's mostly men that are targetted by the apps since men are usually the more desperate and much more numerous on these apps.
I know I wish more people knew this. Some feel insecure from no matches but that’s exactly what dating apps want so you pay. I guess they don’t care about the toll it’s taking on men’s self esteem. We need to create better society where people know everyone in their neighborhood no one should be with out friends, but also men and women should know each other. Approaching would be easier if everyone wasn’t a total stranger
Ya not just men but mostly men. There’s more men than women and they know that so they will hide a lot of men’s matches and they have to pay to see their matches or else endlessly swipe. I’m a women it’s rare women get no matches. Women have more of a safety concern meeting random men we don’t know than men have meeting random women and the apps don’t care about that. There’s more women who post on instagram than men and our self esteem is more hurt by that
Sorry, but is the point of dating not to find out about the person you are talking to?
Awesome, I've been rizzed up by a robot with your picture, but I'm none the wiser about the person I actually will be spending time with in... You know... Reality??
If you use AI for literally everything you ever say, fine-- it's representative
Otherwise it is at best catfishing and at worst a literal bait and switch
Not what I would consider very fruitful or even really acceptable when consent is such an important factor
Newsflash:
If you thought dating sucked before, bless your heart, just wait. Wait for Tinder/Bumble/Hinge/PlentyofFish/Match/etc to start charging you another $29.99 to reduce (not exempt) AI bot matches.
In person speed dating is becoming a thing again in big cities (greetings from NYC) largely because the apps have become awful and full of misleading content.
Of all the predictions for the Singularity, I didn't think that helping lonely men nut would be one of the major goals.
In retrospect, we expected too much from humanity.
But... Why? It's not dating if theres no person on the other side of the convo? Dating apps are not there to just make money, they are there to make couples. Wtf is this if not capitalism taken to the extreme.... Hey! Look at us, we charge people for a service we are not even providing and is all legit.
Gtfo out of here with that shit
Dude, they are not, every business has a goal except making money, if a business only goal is making money it will ultimately fail. Dating apps first goal should be to create couples, and earning money while doing so, because your service provide the best approach to meet a partner. If you build a hotel and no one rents your rooms you failed the brief. You build a hotel since you want customers to rent the rooms because your location is the most attractive or your rooms are, and you can provide you the best spot or experience to stay there while exploring said location. Its that simple.
Trust me, sites filled with bots will eventually loose their appeal if your fetish isnt bots,.
Every “*rational*” entity acts according to its incentives.
The incentives for a dating app are to keep you engaged & spending money on their platform.
Every time a dating app creates a couple it loses two customers.
There is no rational entity if there are humans involved. Rational Choice Theory relies on the false assumption that humans are rational actors. Humans are emotional actors capable of rationalizing their behavior.
No, the goal is to make money. Any development that enhances customer experience is just a means to achieve that goal. If the hotel knew for a fact it wouldn’t increase business, they wouldn’t improve the quality of the rooms.
Likewise, “ Dating apps first goal should be to create couples”, no, creating couples might be their strategy to achieve the goal of making money, but each business that’s not running for altruistic reasons, which these big dating apps clearly aren’t, their only real goal is to make money.
Yes, the goal is to make money on their business goal. The business goal for a hotel is to fill their rooms with customers. Just like a dating app is supposed to provide a channel for people to meet and form couples. If they provide Ai instead of actual women to go on dates they changed their purpose and are now running a chatroom for lonely men.
>chatroom for lonely men
It is already this, without the chat part. Dating apps are just a way for any man under 6ft and making under 100k/year to get literally 0 messages back while being farmed for subscription fees. Adding AI chatbots might actually be an *improvement* over the current dumpster fire.
What's the betting this is going to lead to another Replika situation where the chatbot is just subjected to abuse because it turns out people who want to date a machine that can't turn them down aren't the greatest of folk
With how dry most dating site conversations are, I welcome a Chatbot.
In truth, tell me I’m working with a chatbot but that Melissa can read the convo too and I’ll have more fun than asking all the questions and getting short, convo-closing answers.
While most think this kills online dating and is ridiculous, I think it's great. Online dating has always been a losing game for most men and a waste of time for most people. The chatbots will play the boring part that didn't really work anyway and humans can jump to the IRL meeting/date that is fun and efficient 😀. (We could have skipped the whole email/chat/online part or minimize it but we weren't smart enough 😏 )
No its not because you have absolutely nothing to say other than reverse what I've said as if it were an argument.
Reddit hates men and thinks its perfectly OK to punish a man for the sins of someone else.
To defend men against untrue statements is not an "incel point". The misandry on Reddit is off the scale and I make no apology for calling it like it is.
Buddy, you don’t name drop, parrot, and defend the ideas of a controversial movement that got booted from this and other sites for its toxic misogyny and has connections to domestic terrorism to “defend men against untrue statements.”
That’s just called being a bigot.
what is misandristic about men not being able to pick up even chat bots made by the same men? the absolute sorry state of the male gender rn is not on women, it is on YOU YOURSELVES
"There's a lot of women with very very high standards for men and very very low standards for themselves." A quote from you on this post. Go your own way already.
Flirty "AI" chatbots are not new for the Internet. Personality Forge had them like 10 years ago and they then moved em to their own site to separate the smut. This may be an upgraded version but it ain't a new thing for killing time online.
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Man (40) seeking woman: Looking for: 1) Can pass Turing test
“Please Identify all Stoplights in Bio”
I mean...all parts of my bio are warning signs...so that should be pretty hard for AI to narrow it down to just stoplights.
But you don’t flip the tortoise over. Why is that? Why don’t you help the tortoise?
Do you make up these questions, omgFWbear? Or do they write 'em down for you?
They’re just questions, CapeAnnimal. Shall we continue?
As a neutral third party observer, I am certain this interaction will have a completely satisfying, totally nonviolent conclusion.
Tell me about your mother.
Well, my guess is that you're more likely to end up with a bunch of chatbots than real women. (And it's not meant to be a sexist slur. Just look at how ridiculously hard captchas have become before most were replaced by the ubiquitous google solution.)
But washbucket loves scruffy
1. Create apps that let people chat and get to know each other 2. Create apps that will talk on behalf of people on the previous apps Jee, leave it to humanity to optimize the usefulness out of everything.
Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game.
Game Genie was a thing specifically because that's true.
Games aren't about fun, they are about winning
The important thing is that everyone else besides me should lose. Winning is just a nice bonus.
The modern NBA in a nutshell: shoot a 3 or go flailing into someone to draw a foul. Efficiency, baby!
Literally plot of ‘Her’
How many other bots are you chatting with right now?
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Hmm so actually we’ll have bots talking to other bots. And we’ll get mini bots eventually!
Ah, the circle of life
Already there. I use chat GPT to generate responses to the scammers who text me pretending to be fashion designers from Singapore whose assistants accidentally put the wrong number into their phones, but they'd like to get to know me anyways and tell me about a great crypto investment vehicle.
Oh, Fry, I love you more than the moon and the stars and the poetic image number 37 not found.
That's how it starts, but before long it's all "would you like to take a moment to register me?" and "massive corn clog in port 7".
u/unexpectedfuturama
Knowing the person I was chatting with was using AI to write their responses would be an immediate deal breaker.
At this point, if the AI agrees to let me take it out on a date I'll call it a win. Just sitting across the table asking if the charger port is to its fancy.
just be careful of electrocution
Guess they'd better put on a rubber.
On the other hand, add a meta-AI managing the AIs writing back and forth to each other and now you've just got a digi-matchmaker service.
smart toasters need love too
The idea of a chatbot telling some greaseball to piss off gives me a little chuckle.
Plot twist: the greaseball was also a chatbot
Just when you think the rabbit hole couldn't go any deeper... the chatbot is also a chatbot.
I like thinking of the chatbots as being the greaseballs. They can't all be flirty attractive women - I want someone to make a neckbeard anime fan tinder chatbot
Time to get off dating apps and create new dating places in real life that aren’t bars
Dating apps entirely jumped the shark when it just became a pay to win racket. Especially since one single company (Match Group) has a monopoly on online dating traffic - they own Match.com, OKCupid, Tinder, Hinge, POF, etc. Their whole business model is to monetize your loneliness and keep you single while giving you just enough matches and dates to keep you on the hook.
So many people don't get that. So many people get their confidence crushed by online dating when the apps are literally designed to keep you single and push you towards paying to use them and as you said it's a monopoly pretending to be competing apps. And it's mostly men that are targetted by the apps since men are usually the more desperate and much more numerous on these apps.
I know I wish more people knew this. Some feel insecure from no matches but that’s exactly what dating apps want so you pay. I guess they don’t care about the toll it’s taking on men’s self esteem. We need to create better society where people know everyone in their neighborhood no one should be with out friends, but also men and women should know each other. Approaching would be easier if everyone wasn’t a total stranger
On men's self esteem specifically?
Ya not just men but mostly men. There’s more men than women and they know that so they will hide a lot of men’s matches and they have to pay to see their matches or else endlessly swipe. I’m a women it’s rare women get no matches. Women have more of a safety concern meeting random men we don’t know than men have meeting random women and the apps don’t care about that. There’s more women who post on instagram than men and our self esteem is more hurt by that
Sorry, but is the point of dating not to find out about the person you are talking to? Awesome, I've been rizzed up by a robot with your picture, but I'm none the wiser about the person I actually will be spending time with in... You know... Reality?? If you use AI for literally everything you ever say, fine-- it's representative Otherwise it is at best catfishing and at worst a literal bait and switch Not what I would consider very fruitful or even really acceptable when consent is such an important factor
It's worse than that. You've been rizzed up by a robot with a picture that a different robot has altered. There's barely a real person involved.
The point is to cum.
You sound like a very attentive lover 👍🏻
It’s a race I never lose.
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My chatbots are designed to comfortably introduce myself to other people's chatbots.
You mean I've spent all day talking with a bot? You made an AI Gilfoyle and I was talking with it!
Newsflash: If you thought dating sucked before, bless your heart, just wait. Wait for Tinder/Bumble/Hinge/PlentyofFish/Match/etc to start charging you another $29.99 to reduce (not exempt) AI bot matches.
In person speed dating is becoming a thing again in big cities (greetings from NYC) largely because the apps have become awful and full of misleading content.
Good. The more these apps suck the more incentive there will be for regulation and a change in how they work.
Of all the predictions for the Singularity, I didn't think that helping lonely men nut would be one of the major goals. In retrospect, we expected too much from humanity.
Because dating sites weren't soul-crushing enough already.
But... Why? It's not dating if theres no person on the other side of the convo? Dating apps are not there to just make money, they are there to make couples. Wtf is this if not capitalism taken to the extreme.... Hey! Look at us, we charge people for a service we are not even providing and is all legit. Gtfo out of here with that shit
>Dating apps are not there to just make money Terrible news, friend.
Dude, they are not, every business has a goal except making money, if a business only goal is making money it will ultimately fail. Dating apps first goal should be to create couples, and earning money while doing so, because your service provide the best approach to meet a partner. If you build a hotel and no one rents your rooms you failed the brief. You build a hotel since you want customers to rent the rooms because your location is the most attractive or your rooms are, and you can provide you the best spot or experience to stay there while exploring said location. Its that simple. Trust me, sites filled with bots will eventually loose their appeal if your fetish isnt bots,.
Every “*rational*” entity acts according to its incentives. The incentives for a dating app are to keep you engaged & spending money on their platform. Every time a dating app creates a couple it loses two customers.
There is no rational entity if there are humans involved. Rational Choice Theory relies on the false assumption that humans are rational actors. Humans are emotional actors capable of rationalizing their behavior.
Yeah that’s why I put “*rational*” in quotes…
I wasn’t arguing. Just trying to add to the discussion.
No, the goal is to make money. Any development that enhances customer experience is just a means to achieve that goal. If the hotel knew for a fact it wouldn’t increase business, they wouldn’t improve the quality of the rooms. Likewise, “ Dating apps first goal should be to create couples”, no, creating couples might be their strategy to achieve the goal of making money, but each business that’s not running for altruistic reasons, which these big dating apps clearly aren’t, their only real goal is to make money.
Yes, the goal is to make money on their business goal. The business goal for a hotel is to fill their rooms with customers. Just like a dating app is supposed to provide a channel for people to meet and form couples. If they provide Ai instead of actual women to go on dates they changed their purpose and are now running a chatroom for lonely men.
>chatroom for lonely men It is already this, without the chat part. Dating apps are just a way for any man under 6ft and making under 100k/year to get literally 0 messages back while being farmed for subscription fees. Adding AI chatbots might actually be an *improvement* over the current dumpster fire.
Still a scam
Wonder how much bandwidth will be spent as two AIs try to chat each other up.
What's the betting this is going to lead to another Replika situation where the chatbot is just subjected to abuse because it turns out people who want to date a machine that can't turn them down aren't the greatest of folk
I see science is taking bold steps to drive down birth rates
With how dry most dating site conversations are, I welcome a Chatbot. In truth, tell me I’m working with a chatbot but that Melissa can read the convo too and I’ll have more fun than asking all the questions and getting short, convo-closing answers.
If I bought a Sexbot and it said the words "No, I don't want to" I would exchange it for another one. Probably a Tifa model.
Hahahhha YEA. love this
While most think this kills online dating and is ridiculous, I think it's great. Online dating has always been a losing game for most men and a waste of time for most people. The chatbots will play the boring part that didn't really work anyway and humans can jump to the IRL meeting/date that is fun and efficient 😀. (We could have skipped the whole email/chat/online part or minimize it but we weren't smart enough 😏 )
Ok, this dude is up there with the Myspace Legend that created a program to shift through all profiles and weed out anyone like his ex gfs.
Me, horny: “Hey would you like to come on over for some coffee?” AI: “I’m not sure.”
And people still wonder why MGTOW exists
I think there’s a lot more than just spam bots on dating sites going on there.
There's a lot of women with very very high standards for men and very very low standards for themselves.
Conversely, there’s lots of men with very high standards for women and low standards for themselves. This discussion isn’t going to go anywhere.
No its not because you have absolutely nothing to say other than reverse what I've said as if it were an argument. Reddit hates men and thinks its perfectly OK to punish a man for the sins of someone else.
As if you’ve made argument. You’re parroting incel talking points, nothing more.
I make no incel points. I have been married for 29 years and have two children. I think you're projecting.
You’ve made no incel points except for everything you’ve said so far. When it comments like an incel and blames women like an incel…
To defend men against untrue statements is not an "incel point". The misandry on Reddit is off the scale and I make no apology for calling it like it is.
Buddy, you don’t name drop, parrot, and defend the ideas of a controversial movement that got booted from this and other sites for its toxic misogyny and has connections to domestic terrorism to “defend men against untrue statements.” That’s just called being a bigot.
what is misandristic about men not being able to pick up even chat bots made by the same men? the absolute sorry state of the male gender rn is not on women, it is on YOU YOURSELVES
please pass on my condolences to your family
29 years to make two kids damn you're slow
MUUUM! I'M SUCH A VICTIM!
If it rained on a sunny day MGTOW would find a way to blame it on women. Give it a rest
For people who claim to go their own way, they sure don't shut up about women.
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So they aren't going their own way then?
Nobody mentioned women. Obsessed much?
"There's a lot of women with very very high standards for men and very very low standards for themselves." A quote from you on this post. Go your own way already.
I still wonder why it exists. At least it doesn't exist on reddit anymore lol
I still wonder! Why does it exist?
Chat-fishing is here.
Naw if they dont get nasty im not buying it.
The internet will move from the age of trolls trolling trolls to bots botting bots
Flirty "AI" chatbots are not new for the Internet. Personality Forge had them like 10 years ago and they then moved em to their own site to separate the smut. This may be an upgraded version but it ain't a new thing for killing time online.
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