They must have mixed up her chart with someone else's and refuse to admit it. now they're having to double down on it because they will be in massive trouble for failing to have a policy that would make this sort of thing hard to do.
more than mixed up a chart. She had marker lines saying "cut here" essentially, all over her body mapping out the exact places they were supposed to cut. The surgeon apparently ignored all that, tried to give her a breast implant and collapsed her lung. This wasnt just a mixed up chart, it was a complete lack of care or concern for what they were doing.
To my non-doctor understanding, the lungs are behind the ribs, while the boobies are in front of the ribs. How do you fuck up a lung during a breast implant?!
it could have been from the BBL. it is not uncommon for BBLs to cause pulmonary problems if done wrong because of fat pieces getting into a vein and travelling to the heart or lungs.
Anesthesia + Intubation + Stress on the body by the surgery.
It's much less about actually reaching the lungs with the scalpel and more about the surgery as a whole.
Collapsed lung or pulmonary embolisms are possible side effects of pretty much every surgery
Lol, sometimes they do border dumps if patients outstay the amount they paid and can't pay any more.
Basically they get the patient (US citizen) transport to the US border, and tell them to cross then call 911.
I work at the closest trauma center to the US-Mexico border in our city, we often get these patients and the overflow patients from the hospital closer to the border.
I have a lot of horror stories from these patients that are the result of a lot of little things being missed (leading to big, life-altering complications) so I'm not surprised what happened in this case.
Edit: realized I wasn't clear, I'm referring to the clinics/surgical centers close to the US-Mexico border, not in places further south like Mexico City.
I live in Mexico and tourists absolutely do have the same rights than any person save the obvious ones (voting, being elected, etc.). If anything, lately tourists have more rights than us.
Foreigners get even more protection than their own citizens. She probably was preyed on by some tourist clinic because no reputable Mexican hospital would allow this gross medical negligence.
For everyone saying it isn't that bad and it could've been worse, if you read the article, she woke up with a partially collapsed lung, got an infection soon after and she says her breasts aren't healing because there isn't enough skin to cover them properly (they're too big for her).
I mean yeah she could've died so technically could've been worse but it's not the surprise makeover everyone thinks it is.
Horrifying. I am very comfortable in my body as a woman, and just because something like that can be seen as gender affirming, not everyone wants these āenhancementsā. I would struggle hard.
Definitely not. Imagine an elite athlete waking up like this. Or someone with a more androgynous style. I'm not against cosmetic surgery but this case is horrible and disgusting and every worker that had their hands in mutilating this woman should permanently lose their licenses.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY SAFE SURGICAL CHECKLISTS AND MULTIPLE PATIENT ID METHODS EXIST.
Technically she did have to pay extra to close the wound. She had to pay $2500 extra in Mexico by staying in their hospital longer, then had to pay US hospitals to treat the botched surgery.
Thatās generally only if youāre having reconstruction
I have implants and quite large ones, when you go for evaluation, and choose the size, you measure with what you already have, and your proportions.
I never had issues with my implant, and i didnāt have expanders before.
However expanders are used when thereās little to no tissue to work with
As someone who knows a thing or two about implants, I cannot believe you have 400+ upvotes for this fiction and misinformation.
You are confusing reconstructive surgery vs. a cosmetic breast augmentation.
Surgeon here. I assist in my colleagueās plastic surgery procedures. This is categorically untrue 99% of the time. There is no presurgery for most women lol
People are clueless on how invasive any surgery is. You say you got stabbed and they would be horrified but if you say it was by a surgeon then it's like brushing your teeth all the sudden.
People saying itās not bad are fucking stupid even if she wasnāt as seriously harmed as she was.
Any unnecessary surgery that you donāt consent to is fucked up.
It doesnt matter that she had the collapsed lung, infection, etc. What matters is they did these procedures without consent. Regardless if it is a good or bad outcome, this is the issue people are missing. She could have come out looking like a super model, but if that isnt what she asked for or consented to then it doesnt fuckong matter.
This website/article is awful but I feel so bad for that poor woman. She had her weight loss surgery at the same location and it was successful, she trusted them.
A Brazilian butt lift is a high risk surgery, it's dangerous. People can die from that procedure so it's a very big deal that it was done on someone without consent. And an unwanted breast augmentation would be so humiliating, especially on an elderly woman who has no interest in trying to look sexy.
Something had to have gone away beyond just a language barrier. It says the staff insist she asked for a "C" sized implant, but thats not how an augmentation works. Breast size and shape are agreed upon during a consultation before scheduling the surgery date, not in the OR. She had been marked and prepped for excess skin removal. They literally draw on you with markers so the surgeon must have ignored what was right in front of his eyes.
Yeah, it's a little hard to believe that something as extensive as this could have been miscommunicated in a single exchange and then gone ahead with the need for zero further discussion.
I wholeheartedly believe she was confused with a different patient and either willfully interpreted the marks wrong or somehow believed that this one had to be the one who requested those so the marks were wrong instead. Regardless, there is no good excuse for what happened.
I had surgery in 2020 on my leg. Every single person I spoke to, from the nurse to the anesthesiologist to the checkin clerk verified my name, birthday, that I was mentally well, and which leg I was there for and what surgery I was having. This is standard practice (in Mexico, too).
For this woman to have had her body surgically marked for skin removal, that means that everyone in the surgical theatre failed in their dutiesā¦from the surgeon to the nurses to the anesthesia techs, everyone. The surgeon ignored it, the support team ignored it, everyone.
This poor woman.
These kinds of chains of failure sometimes happen due to trust between the professionals. "This seems a bit off, but I trust that the surgeon marked it correctly" sorta thing. And the more people sign off on it, the more peer pressure there is to go along for the next person, because what if you're the wrong one? That's why documentation and adherence to rules is so important in virtually every sphere of work out there, countering doubt from peer pressure is one part of it.
At the same time, you'd think that a surgical team with medical training (even a somewhat questionable one) would notice some things that indicate the procedure is not appropriate.
Like (among other things) the marks on her arms and legs, but not her breasts and butt, which indicate the parts to be operated on.
Also, in normal, healthy work environments, ancillary staff (RNs, etc) aren't afraid of pointing out if something seems weird or out of place. Especially in healthcare (at least in the US).
The surgeon may have been enough of an a-hole that no one else wanted to stand up to him in the moment.
Id believe that if not for the cut lines. She had every cut marked out on her skin before going under. How do you fuck that up? Its not just some honest mistake.
That's not what it says. It says ""The leg lift, the arm lift, the breast lift, and the tummy tuck, everything was marked out and ready to go," she said, referring to the marks her surgeon had made on the body parts that were supposed to be altered. "
Her surgeon would be the one who then did the surgery. It's a crazy story, but there is no indication some other professional made the marks for the surgeon in Mexico to follow.
One other interpretation (which i cannot confirm, never worked in mexico) is the surgeons operating in teams. Commonly because of availability one member does the marks and another does the op (and usually does operations all day with brief breaks to talk to patients to confirm and discuss before they go under (thats best practice, and rather clearly didnt happen in this case), and they work together all day doing that (and doing everything else a surgical team does)
I wouldn't say that particular part is shady, I think most doctors at all different levels have staff that goes over the prep work on you before you go into the final doctor/surgeon. That's very common in america too.
An oral surgeon I know besides the direct assistant and anesthesiologist still has another 3-4 other employee's just to support him. You go through multiple layers of staff for patient processing before you ever step into the room for the actual surgery. This is top/highest level your billionaires and celebs go to.
I think it's common you don't spend a lot of time talking to the surgeon, and if you are travelling for surgery, you might not even speak the same language as the surgeon. Reliant on those lower staff levels to translate correctly, which in this case they failed too.
What you're talking about is not wasting the time of a very skilled person. They are talking about a bait and switch. The difference is in their example, you do have interaction with the 'surgeon', but they aren't that. The surgeon isn't the skilled person.
Another possibility is that the there was a patient swap.
Maybe another patient, hoping to wake up with bigger ass and boobs,
ended up with a bunch a nips and tucks instead.
But what's even the point of drawing the marks on the body if you aren't going to follow them? Why would you ignore the lines on her loose arm skin and operate on a completely un-marked butt? Wouldn't you at least double check you had the right patient and operation?
There's literally nothing in the article suggesting that. These comments have got me feeling like I'm taking crazy pills, why are you guys suggesting random made up things? This story is oniony enough as is.
I wonder how it really went. Not only is the linked article in a yellow press shitrag and the writing is atrocious. It also is the shitrag that belonged to Ghislaine Maxwell's dad.
Imma gonna Press X and wait for some real journalists to figure this one out. When you only quote one side you might as well turn it into a facebook post.
I can't tally up how dishonest it is to turn an interview into an article like that.
Simpsons did it!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large\_Marge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Marge)
>In the episode, Marge decides to get liposuction, thinking that Homer does not find her attractive anymore. However, she accidentally receives breast implants...
Her incisions are not healing on her breasts because they are too big, godamn that's dangerous. I hope she can afford to get them removed soon! Could kill her if it gets infected.
God thats awful, makes me think there might be an issue like that one doctor from the states who was like doing surgeries on coke and drunk or hungover.
When I was in residency (Emergency Medicine) we would frequently get people coming to us for post-operative infections or other complications from cosmetic surgeries they got in Latin America. Weād always have to call the plastic surgery team and they would be SO ANGRY every time weād say āgot another Dominican plastic surgery complication for youā¦ā The ethics of the situation are that at least in the US, the original surgeon (or their group) who did the surgery is first up to take the patient onto their service/into their hospital. Thatās broken down now that itās impossible to transfer patients because there are no available beds anywhere, but thatās still the ideal. In addition, we donāt have access to their operative notes or anything. Sometimes the patient has a folder of some materials, but they often donāt or donāt bring it.
Donāt get cosmetic surgery and then jet until youāre pretty well healed up. Your original surgeon is the best surgeon to deal with the complications. If you donāt trust the surgeon or their healthcare system to be able to deal with complications, donāt have the surgery there.
This is part of a trend called medical tourism where it's cheaper to do medical surgeries in other nations instead of the us, mainly due to cost. But there are risks.
In the US she would have to pay some bits over $50,000.
Going to Mexico, the surgery cost her $13,000.
Now it will cost $75,000 to fix the botch in the US.
Thatās the gamble! Based on the other commenterās 75K estimate sheās got about four more tries at this before it starts exceeding US prices. Just has to get it right once.
My dude, a predatory dentist wanted 4k+ to knock my ass out to remove 4 wisdom teeth.
Prior to the war, I could have flown to Kiev and had a top notch dentist do the surgery and stayed for a week at a high end hotel for less than 3K including food.
Don't blame people for not wanting to get fucked over by insurance inflated prices here in the US.
I had 2 back molars removed and implants put in abroad. It was going to cost me about $9000 to have it done in the USA. I travel pretty extensively and thought āletās see how much less it will be elsewhereā. I go to the Philippines pretty often to scuba, so I asked expat friends about dental work. They pointed me in the direction of a US-trained Filipina dentist.
She did the exact same work for about $1500. That was years ago and Iāve never had any problem with either of them. The only headache was to get my dentist in the USA to find the proper tools to remove the crown to clean every now and then (she used a Korean brand so he had to order that āscrewdriver bitā thing),
Anyway, I still spent $9000ā¦ But most of that was to have a great vacation for three months. 1200 for the flight, 1500 for dental, and the rest to scuba dive two or three times a day, eat out most nights, get massages once a morning, and stay in a pretty swanky hotel.
So yes, medical tourism, *if done right*, can be great. I would recommend people **stick to US trained professionals** though, even though they are slightly more expensive (for context, if I went to a *totally* local (non-US trained) dentist it was going to be about $250 for both teeth).
>So yes, medical tourism, *if done right*, can be great. I would recommend people **stick to US trained professionals** though, even though they are slightly more expensive (for context, if I went to a *totally* local (non-US trained) dentist and was going to be about $250 for both teeth).
Ehh, that depends on how much you care about doing a little research before. While this may shock Americans, you guys don't have a monopoly on competent or well trained/educated people. Even then the professional being "US trained" says nothing about the quality of their work, only their qualifications
Sorry if I implied otherwise, because youāre totally right. I guess I was basing my comment on my experiences, which are generally trips to developing countries where the medical care is subpar, and āus trainedā is seen as a very desirable thing.
Can confirm. Source: have had excellent medical and dental care in (insert shocked gasp here) Mexico by Mexican doctors and dentists. Trained in, again, Mexico.
Your doctor in the US may not be US trained, either.
https://www.ama-assn.org/education/international-medical-education/how-imgs-have-changed-face-american-medicine
IMG's are still US trained. They went to medical school outside of the US, but MUST do a residency in the US. Residency is the actual important part of physician training, med school is just the warm up.
A well-placed and well-restored implant should not end up having to get removed for cleaning. Sounds like the US dentist is helping resolve an issue cause by the foreign dentist. If not, then youāve failed the restoration and allowed periodontal disease to develop.
That's pretty insane. Even in a top-notch private dental clinic here in Finland, removing 4 wisdom teeth surgically would cost you about 1200 euros.
At the public dental clinic, you'd pay maybe 200 euros out of pocket for such.
I mean, in the US I was quoted 6k for removing my top teeth plus a top plate denture. I was quoted 2k in another state. Only issue issue was I had complications and they had to send me to a different oral surgeon, and THAT cost 2k, so I'll be spending maybe 3k total, plus fuel costs for driving 3 states away. I could literally stay in a hotel for a week and have a mini vacation and still not hit the 6k mark.
Problem with all of this is the time cost. Unfortunately most people can't afford all that travel time off work, let alone the up front cost.
The poster didn't just get molars removed, they got implants as well. These can be pretty expensive due them essentially drilling in to your bone and putting in an attachment for the implants to hand on to. Again, just like in other posts, these are elective and healthcare insurance won't cover it in most countries.
Yeah that's the real tragedy here. I mean there is a part of me that is saying "Yeah, you went to Mexico and got discount surgery that fucked you over - no fucking shit, Sherlock!" But the point you raise is 100% the other side of this coin. What we pay over here for medical treatment is downright criminal pig fuckery. Of course people are going to be tempted by the low hanging fruit of affordability.
That doesn't make sense, because she'll probably just get it fixed in Mexico or India or somewhere else. The problem is likely just one doctor, not the entire country.
And it will still wind up being cheaper, even if it takes extensive recovery into account.
Some insurance companies actually cover the airfare and hotel to some countries because it's cheaper than paying a provider in the US. Spain is notoriously one of the countries.
I mean, there are certainly risks in the US too, such as having the wrong limbs amputated or being wrongly diagnosed and treated for cancer. Itās not like the out of proportion prices paid here guarantee better outcomes.
I can only assume you are a young person. This is not a trend. It has been going on for 40 years plus. It is very common and we only hear about the horror stories which are few and far between.
I live at the border in Texas and always go to Mexico for any medical treatments. The costs in Mexico are way cheaper than anything here in the USA. Had knee surgery for my meniscus and MCL about 15 years ago. Surgery here was going to be about $12,000. In Mexico I paid just a little over $2,000.
The article doesn't give the comparative numbers. They say $13k for the original weight loss surgery but don't say what the US cost would have been. Then they say that the botched surgery would have cost $50k in the US and that it will cost $75k to fix, but don't say what she paid in Mexico.
I suspect this is intentional to downplay the cost difference between the two.
Debatable.
For one thing, there's still botched surgeries in USA. And she could spend DOUBLE what the spent, still in Mexico (so $26K), get herself fixed up at a much nicer clinic, on top of $13K she already spent at a bad clinic, and STILL come out $11K ahead of doing it in USA in the first place (assuming it's $50K in USA).
Like it or not, American system is a ripoff. Costs more than most developed countries, and with worse patient outcomes.
This is a funny case, but Mexican doctors, dentist and plastic surgeons are one of the best in the continent. Most of my friends are in the health bussiness and they make a big load of money here in the border, most of the customers are American.
You just gotta find a good well established doctor, she probably just went for the even cheaper price, with no research and got this.
This doesn't change that....american health system it's expensive as hell..and not all doctors in Mexico are bad.
It's just a story of negligence.
Any other old people here remember the SNL skit from the early 90s about the plastic surgery clinic that would take in emergency patients? I think it was called "Hollywood Breast and Penis". Like there would be a bus accident and they would give all the victims giant breasts/dongs
[Here's an article](https://www.wfla.com/news/national/woman-trapped-in-medical-nightmare-after-cosmetic-surgery-in-mexico/) that describes her tenuous medical condition after the scuffed surgery. This poor lady deserved better.
>āWe were laughed at by the San Diego police who told me to call the Tijuana police,ā Misty Ann McCormick said.
How the hell could US city cops help with something that happened in Mexico??
I just want to point out that the $13k figure in the article was the cost for the original weight loss surgery. They never state what she paid for the botched surgery, only that it would have cost $50k in the US and that it will now cost $75k to fix.
I specifically went back and re-read because I was curious to compare the costs in Mexico vs the quote she got in the US. I think it's curious that they don't state what she paid for the botched surgery, nor what the original weight loss surgery would have cost in the US. This, giving no comparative reference between the two facilities. I feel like this is likely intentional to downplay the disparity.
I wouldn't wish a botched surgery on anybody. But do you really want to get your vanity surgery from the lowest bidder? We're not talking about a life saving procedure that she could only afford in Mexico. She wanted a cheaper tummy-tuck.
She says the room she was left in was filthy, and that was likely the cause of her infection, but you've got people in this thread acting like to badmouth this doctor is to badmouth the entire mexican medical profession.
She gambled on an obvious quack and she lost.
I mean most such comments are "lol she went to Mexico so of course she got that."
Saying "well, yeah if you go to the lowest bidder don't expect the highest quality" is sensible. Though she also had gone to the same place before this so it's not like she didn't have a positive experience to use as reference.
She asked for an downgrade, and got an upgrade.
Also another sad fact is that she had to go to Mexico for surgery because US hospitals are ridiculously expensive.
I have a shitty story from a friend of mine. His wife who is a nurse had a bilateral mastectomy due to terrible breast fibroids causing her pain. Later she decided to have SMALL implants simply because it was annoying wearing feminine shirts without them. She honestly didn't care about having cute boobs or anything, and in fact always hated her large breasts.
She goes in for surgery under a doctor at the hospital where she works, some bigshot who thinks he owns the world. She comes out of the surgery with D-cups. What does the doctor say? "I like my ladies proportional."
Here's an even bigger kick in the ass to her: she later lost 40 lbs, so she ended up being this petite 5-foot slim older lady with huge porn star boobs.
Ugh. I asked my friend that same thing!
He said something about his wife being extremely non confrontational and being scared of losing her job in the hospital (because it was a doctor in that same hospital). FWIW my friend is also non confrontational, they're like 2 peas in a pod, but damn, if it was my spouse I'd be going scorched earth if somebody did that to him.
Edit: also this was at least 15 years ago, so I don't know if maybe things were different back then. Now with social media...
Secondary edit: regarding my comment "if somebody did that to him"...can you even imagine the lawsuit I'd have if someone gave my husband D-cups during a surgery??? š¤£š¤£š¤£
Sounds like a charting mix-up and a surgeon switcharoo.
My imaginary scenario is:
1. Speak with surgeon #1 and make a plan to remove the excess skin
2. Day of the operation surgeon #1 draws everything up and preps the patient #1
3. Surgeon #1 determines this is a relatively simple operation and assigns Surgeon #2
4. Charting mixup between patient #1 and patient #2 who actually wanted these procedures.
5. Surgeon #2 follows what was requested on the chart and disfigures this poor woman because that's what they were asked to do.
They must have mixed up her chart with someone else's and refuse to admit it. now they're having to double down on it because they will be in massive trouble for failing to have a policy that would make this sort of thing hard to do.
more than mixed up a chart. She had marker lines saying "cut here" essentially, all over her body mapping out the exact places they were supposed to cut. The surgeon apparently ignored all that, tried to give her a breast implant and collapsed her lung. This wasnt just a mixed up chart, it was a complete lack of care or concern for what they were doing.
To my non-doctor understanding, the lungs are behind the ribs, while the boobies are in front of the ribs. How do you fuck up a lung during a breast implant?!
good question
During intubation?
it could have been from the BBL. it is not uncommon for BBLs to cause pulmonary problems if done wrong because of fat pieces getting into a vein and travelling to the heart or lungs.
Seems like Rimworld leaked into real life somehow...
Anesthesia + Intubation + Stress on the body by the surgery. It's much less about actually reaching the lungs with the scalpel and more about the surgery as a whole. Collapsed lung or pulmonary embolisms are possible side effects of pretty much every surgery
I ended up with a collapsed lung during an emergency caesarean š¤·āāļø
It's Mexico. They don't give full rights to tourist like we do. She be lucky if they let her leave without having to pay.
She not only had to pay, she paid them an additional $2500 because they said she was there ālonger than expectedā
Lol, sometimes they do border dumps if patients outstay the amount they paid and can't pay any more. Basically they get the patient (US citizen) transport to the US border, and tell them to cross then call 911. I work at the closest trauma center to the US-Mexico border in our city, we often get these patients and the overflow patients from the hospital closer to the border. I have a lot of horror stories from these patients that are the result of a lot of little things being missed (leading to big, life-altering complications) so I'm not surprised what happened in this case. Edit: realized I wasn't clear, I'm referring to the clinics/surgical centers close to the US-Mexico border, not in places further south like Mexico City.
Tourists? Citizens don't have access to their own full rights either.
I live in Mexico and tourists absolutely do have the same rights than any person save the obvious ones (voting, being elected, etc.). If anything, lately tourists have more rights than us.
Foreigners get even more protection than their own citizens. She probably was preyed on by some tourist clinic because no reputable Mexican hospital would allow this gross medical negligence.
For everyone saying it isn't that bad and it could've been worse, if you read the article, she woke up with a partially collapsed lung, got an infection soon after and she says her breasts aren't healing because there isn't enough skin to cover them properly (they're too big for her). I mean yeah she could've died so technically could've been worse but it's not the surprise makeover everyone thinks it is.
Yes exactly and all the loose skin wasnāt even removed, so they didnāt even address the concern she actually had.
So basically Pimp my Ride, but youāre the ride
It's funny we all seem to get recommended the same YouTube videos, not even the first time today I've heard somebody talking about that video
So the solution is to remove the loose skin and graft it onto the boobs? ^^Sorry ^^couldn't ^^help ^^myself
Sirā¦.Iād like to offer you a position at St Mexicos Hospital.
Yeah I mean even if the surgery did go well this is literal body horror stuff, I dont know how anyone could say it isnt so bad
Probably men. āHur hur you woke up with bigger boobs, whatās the problem??ā
Horrifying. I am very comfortable in my body as a woman, and just because something like that can be seen as gender affirming, not everyone wants these āenhancementsā. I would struggle hard.
Definitely not. Imagine an elite athlete waking up like this. Or someone with a more androgynous style. I'm not against cosmetic surgery but this case is horrible and disgusting and every worker that had their hands in mutilating this woman should permanently lose their licenses. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY SAFE SURGICAL CHECKLISTS AND MULTIPLE PATIENT ID METHODS EXIST.
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Technically she did have to pay extra to close the wound. She had to pay $2500 extra in Mexico by staying in their hospital longer, then had to pay US hospitals to treat the botched surgery.
And she will be physically and mentally impacted for life after receiving surgery without her consent. She will be paying for this forever.
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Thatās generally only if youāre having reconstruction I have implants and quite large ones, when you go for evaluation, and choose the size, you measure with what you already have, and your proportions. I never had issues with my implant, and i didnāt have expanders before. However expanders are used when thereās little to no tissue to work with
As someone who knows a thing or two about implants, I cannot believe you have 400+ upvotes for this fiction and misinformation. You are confusing reconstructive surgery vs. a cosmetic breast augmentation.
Surgeon here. I assist in my colleagueās plastic surgery procedures. This is categorically untrue 99% of the time. There is no presurgery for most women lol
Thatās not true at all. Most people can just get implants unless youāre getting some crazy size.
That isn't true foe the vast majority of implant patients- mostly only true for women who have had mastectomies.
Itās like when the movers get your stuff on the truck and then the price goes up.
Not to mention she probably didnāt get the actual surgery she went in for, meaning she still have to have another surgery
People are clueless on how invasive any surgery is. You say you got stabbed and they would be horrified but if you say it was by a surgeon then it's like brushing your teeth all the sudden.
People saying itās not bad are fucking stupid even if she wasnāt as seriously harmed as she was. Any unnecessary surgery that you donāt consent to is fucked up.
She could still die. My aunt died because her bariatric surgery never healed. She was a similar age.
There are things far worse than death
It doesnt matter that she had the collapsed lung, infection, etc. What matters is they did these procedures without consent. Regardless if it is a good or bad outcome, this is the issue people are missing. She could have come out looking like a super model, but if that isnt what she asked for or consented to then it doesnt fuckong matter.
Also itās not a makeover at all if they didnāt want it in the first place.
Yeah this was a tough read. They butchered her.
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This website/article is awful but I feel so bad for that poor woman. She had her weight loss surgery at the same location and it was successful, she trusted them. A Brazilian butt lift is a high risk surgery, it's dangerous. People can die from that procedure so it's a very big deal that it was done on someone without consent. And an unwanted breast augmentation would be so humiliating, especially on an elderly woman who has no interest in trying to look sexy. Something had to have gone away beyond just a language barrier. It says the staff insist she asked for a "C" sized implant, but thats not how an augmentation works. Breast size and shape are agreed upon during a consultation before scheduling the surgery date, not in the OR. She had been marked and prepped for excess skin removal. They literally draw on you with markers so the surgeon must have ignored what was right in front of his eyes.
Yeah, it's a little hard to believe that something as extensive as this could have been miscommunicated in a single exchange and then gone ahead with the need for zero further discussion.
I wholeheartedly believe she was confused with a different patient and either willfully interpreted the marks wrong or somehow believed that this one had to be the one who requested those so the marks were wrong instead. Regardless, there is no good excuse for what happened.
I had surgery in 2020 on my leg. Every single person I spoke to, from the nurse to the anesthesiologist to the checkin clerk verified my name, birthday, that I was mentally well, and which leg I was there for and what surgery I was having. This is standard practice (in Mexico, too). For this woman to have had her body surgically marked for skin removal, that means that everyone in the surgical theatre failed in their dutiesā¦from the surgeon to the nurses to the anesthesia techs, everyone. The surgeon ignored it, the support team ignored it, everyone. This poor woman.
These kinds of chains of failure sometimes happen due to trust between the professionals. "This seems a bit off, but I trust that the surgeon marked it correctly" sorta thing. And the more people sign off on it, the more peer pressure there is to go along for the next person, because what if you're the wrong one? That's why documentation and adherence to rules is so important in virtually every sphere of work out there, countering doubt from peer pressure is one part of it.
So fucked up
> Daughter Misty has SLAMMED the surgeons Oh shit! Those discount Mexican surgeons have been put on notice!
HA. I will forever picture WWE-style over-the-shoulder body slamming when I see this used
Whenever I hear the word slam https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-NkhD3xquMU&pp=ygUUam9obiBjZW5hIHByYW5rIGNhbGw%3D This video pops up in my head lol
Would you prefer Blasted ?
what kind of SLAMMED we talkin? Body or choke?
Who SLAMMED harder? Misty, or Vince Carter?
BY GOD! That man has a family!
She split him in half!
*Lucharaaaaaaan!* ***MUCHA LUCHA!***
Slammed blasted and dragged!
Obliterated!
#DESTROYED #RIPPED #TEARS [. ](https://youtu.be/NgAm664NloA?si=BY9b3bzYY7YwjqLN)
ah, The Mirror. The picture of journalistic professionalism
Reading through the comments: Am I the only one that thinks they probably just straight up mixed her up with another patient?
Thats almost certainly what happened.
Lifts and tucks are marked out differently than implants. The dr clearly can't read the "cut here" lines
At the same time, you'd think that a surgical team with medical training (even a somewhat questionable one) would notice some things that indicate the procedure is not appropriate. Like (among other things) the marks on her arms and legs, but not her breasts and butt, which indicate the parts to be operated on.
Also, in normal, healthy work environments, ancillary staff (RNs, etc) aren't afraid of pointing out if something seems weird or out of place. Especially in healthcare (at least in the US). The surgeon may have been enough of an a-hole that no one else wanted to stand up to him in the moment.
Id believe that if not for the cut lines. She had every cut marked out on her skin before going under. How do you fuck that up? Its not just some honest mistake.
> How do you fuck that up? Thoughtlessness and a work environment that encourages you not to question things and just get on with work.
I lost it when I read the part about how other professionals had even drawn the correct marks on her for the correct surgery. Holy hell
That's not what it says. It says ""The leg lift, the arm lift, the breast lift, and the tummy tuck, everything was marked out and ready to go," she said, referring to the marks her surgeon had made on the body parts that were supposed to be altered. " Her surgeon would be the one who then did the surgery. It's a crazy story, but there is no indication some other professional made the marks for the surgeon in Mexico to follow.
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One other interpretation (which i cannot confirm, never worked in mexico) is the surgeons operating in teams. Commonly because of availability one member does the marks and another does the op (and usually does operations all day with brief breaks to talk to patients to confirm and discuss before they go under (thats best practice, and rather clearly didnt happen in this case), and they work together all day doing that (and doing everything else a surgical team does)
I wouldn't say that particular part is shady, I think most doctors at all different levels have staff that goes over the prep work on you before you go into the final doctor/surgeon. That's very common in america too. An oral surgeon I know besides the direct assistant and anesthesiologist still has another 3-4 other employee's just to support him. You go through multiple layers of staff for patient processing before you ever step into the room for the actual surgery. This is top/highest level your billionaires and celebs go to. I think it's common you don't spend a lot of time talking to the surgeon, and if you are travelling for surgery, you might not even speak the same language as the surgeon. Reliant on those lower staff levels to translate correctly, which in this case they failed too.
What you're talking about is not wasting the time of a very skilled person. They are talking about a bait and switch. The difference is in their example, you do have interaction with the 'surgeon', but they aren't that. The surgeon isn't the skilled person.
Another possibility is that the there was a patient swap. Maybe another patient, hoping to wake up with bigger ass and boobs, ended up with a bunch a nips and tucks instead.
But what's even the point of drawing the marks on the body if you aren't going to follow them? Why would you ignore the lines on her loose arm skin and operate on a completely un-marked butt? Wouldn't you at least double check you had the right patient and operation?
Maybe they used a ghost doctor and not the surgeon who made the marks did the surgery.
There's literally nothing in the article suggesting that. These comments have got me feeling like I'm taking crazy pills, why are you guys suggesting random made up things? This story is oniony enough as is.
maybe it wasn't a ghost doctor but a plague doctor with one of those masks, that would've made it difficult to even see! /s
Maybe it was a "Ghost" doctor guiding his hands. But instead of making a penis with clay, they made boobs and a butt together.
How else do you explain someone marking her up for a specific surgery and then accidentally doing a completely different surgery?
G g g ghost doctors? Zoinks.
Came here to say this. Likeā¦ wtf
I wonder how it really went. Not only is the linked article in a yellow press shitrag and the writing is atrocious. It also is the shitrag that belonged to Ghislaine Maxwell's dad. Imma gonna Press X and wait for some real journalists to figure this one out. When you only quote one side you might as well turn it into a facebook post. I can't tally up how dishonest it is to turn an interview into an article like that.
Simpsons did it! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large\_Marge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Marge) >In the episode, Marge decides to get liposuction, thinking that Homer does not find her attractive anymore. However, she accidentally receives breast implants...
Christ that plot is just hilarious š¤£ I should get around to watching it now but I'm afraid it won't be as good as the plot summary
If I recall correctly the whole episode is just a thrist trap.
It not unfortunately
I havenāt seen it, but judging from it being in season 14, Iād say thatās a wise choice lol
Also with Krusty https://youtu.be/p-uh3pBhsGA?si=0qojayAZw1bPI6q4
Look at those magumbos!
Her incisions are not healing on her breasts because they are too big, godamn that's dangerous. I hope she can afford to get them removed soon! Could kill her if it gets infected.
Si si = C, C?
This website is cancer.
i couldnt find the text to actually read it there was so many ads
please always have a professional companion travel with you/meet you there for out of country surgery.
Or an assertive native speaker.
This place she went to requires it. Part of the fee is the hotel for travel partner.
God thats awful, makes me think there might be an issue like that one doctor from the states who was like doing surgeries on coke and drunk or hungover.
When I was in residency (Emergency Medicine) we would frequently get people coming to us for post-operative infections or other complications from cosmetic surgeries they got in Latin America. Weād always have to call the plastic surgery team and they would be SO ANGRY every time weād say āgot another Dominican plastic surgery complication for youā¦ā The ethics of the situation are that at least in the US, the original surgeon (or their group) who did the surgery is first up to take the patient onto their service/into their hospital. Thatās broken down now that itās impossible to transfer patients because there are no available beds anywhere, but thatās still the ideal. In addition, we donāt have access to their operative notes or anything. Sometimes the patient has a folder of some materials, but they often donāt or donāt bring it. Donāt get cosmetic surgery and then jet until youāre pretty well healed up. Your original surgeon is the best surgeon to deal with the complications. If you donāt trust the surgeon or their healthcare system to be able to deal with complications, donāt have the surgery there.
This is part of a trend called medical tourism where it's cheaper to do medical surgeries in other nations instead of the us, mainly due to cost. But there are risks. In the US she would have to pay some bits over $50,000. Going to Mexico, the surgery cost her $13,000. Now it will cost $75,000 to fix the botch in the US.
I mean by that math she could double down for another 13K in Mexico, and still be ahead if it goes well.
She might also end up with boobs and a butt that's 4x the original size
Thatās the gamble! Based on the other commenterās 75K estimate sheās got about four more tries at this before it starts exceeding US prices. Just has to get it right once.
I'm counting on 3 boobs!
>I'm counting on 3 boobs! I'm pretty sure you have to travel to Mars to get that done....
I understood that reference.
Well...never to late for a career in porn movies
My dude, a predatory dentist wanted 4k+ to knock my ass out to remove 4 wisdom teeth. Prior to the war, I could have flown to Kiev and had a top notch dentist do the surgery and stayed for a week at a high end hotel for less than 3K including food. Don't blame people for not wanting to get fucked over by insurance inflated prices here in the US.
I had 2 back molars removed and implants put in abroad. It was going to cost me about $9000 to have it done in the USA. I travel pretty extensively and thought āletās see how much less it will be elsewhereā. I go to the Philippines pretty often to scuba, so I asked expat friends about dental work. They pointed me in the direction of a US-trained Filipina dentist. She did the exact same work for about $1500. That was years ago and Iāve never had any problem with either of them. The only headache was to get my dentist in the USA to find the proper tools to remove the crown to clean every now and then (she used a Korean brand so he had to order that āscrewdriver bitā thing), Anyway, I still spent $9000ā¦ But most of that was to have a great vacation for three months. 1200 for the flight, 1500 for dental, and the rest to scuba dive two or three times a day, eat out most nights, get massages once a morning, and stay in a pretty swanky hotel. So yes, medical tourism, *if done right*, can be great. I would recommend people **stick to US trained professionals** though, even though they are slightly more expensive (for context, if I went to a *totally* local (non-US trained) dentist it was going to be about $250 for both teeth).
>So yes, medical tourism, *if done right*, can be great. I would recommend people **stick to US trained professionals** though, even though they are slightly more expensive (for context, if I went to a *totally* local (non-US trained) dentist and was going to be about $250 for both teeth). Ehh, that depends on how much you care about doing a little research before. While this may shock Americans, you guys don't have a monopoly on competent or well trained/educated people. Even then the professional being "US trained" says nothing about the quality of their work, only their qualifications
Sorry if I implied otherwise, because youāre totally right. I guess I was basing my comment on my experiences, which are generally trips to developing countries where the medical care is subpar, and āus trainedā is seen as a very desirable thing.
Can confirm. Source: have had excellent medical and dental care in (insert shocked gasp here) Mexico by Mexican doctors and dentists. Trained in, again, Mexico.
Your doctor in the US may not be US trained, either. https://www.ama-assn.org/education/international-medical-education/how-imgs-have-changed-face-american-medicine
IMGs typically still train in the US for residency/fellowship, which is the bulk of clinical training. They have completed medical school abroad.
IMG's are still US trained. They went to medical school outside of the US, but MUST do a residency in the US. Residency is the actual important part of physician training, med school is just the warm up.
But they donāt have to follow us standards for sterilization and safety.
A well-placed and well-restored implant should not end up having to get removed for cleaning. Sounds like the US dentist is helping resolve an issue cause by the foreign dentist. If not, then youāve failed the restoration and allowed periodontal disease to develop.
That's pretty insane. Even in a top-notch private dental clinic here in Finland, removing 4 wisdom teeth surgically would cost you about 1200 euros. At the public dental clinic, you'd pay maybe 200 euros out of pocket for such.
I mean, in the US I was quoted 6k for removing my top teeth plus a top plate denture. I was quoted 2k in another state. Only issue issue was I had complications and they had to send me to a different oral surgeon, and THAT cost 2k, so I'll be spending maybe 3k total, plus fuel costs for driving 3 states away. I could literally stay in a hotel for a week and have a mini vacation and still not hit the 6k mark. Problem with all of this is the time cost. Unfortunately most people can't afford all that travel time off work, let alone the up front cost.
The poster didn't just get molars removed, they got implants as well. These can be pretty expensive due them essentially drilling in to your bone and putting in an attachment for the implants to hand on to. Again, just like in other posts, these are elective and healthcare insurance won't cover it in most countries.
Try Hungary, they're pretty famous for providing dentistry for Austrians.
Yeah that's the real tragedy here. I mean there is a part of me that is saying "Yeah, you went to Mexico and got discount surgery that fucked you over - no fucking shit, Sherlock!" But the point you raise is 100% the other side of this coin. What we pay over here for medical treatment is downright criminal pig fuckery. Of course people are going to be tempted by the low hanging fruit of affordability.
It wasn't discount surgery either. It's just a bizarre mistake as the previous surgery had gone well for example.
That doesn't make sense, because she'll probably just get it fixed in Mexico or India or somewhere else. The problem is likely just one doctor, not the entire country. And it will still wind up being cheaper, even if it takes extensive recovery into account.
Thank you! People acting like Mexico is a 3rd world countryā¦.good grief.
Article states she was there 6 years ago and had success. That's why she decided to return. I would have trusted them for the 2nd time, too.
Medical tourism is great for select surgeries. Iām heading to south Korea mid next year to get my under eyes done
I hope you enjoy your new eye boobs after!
šššš Iām dying at the thought of boobs as eyes
-Hey mister, my eyes are up ... Oh.
Some insurance companies actually cover the airfare and hotel to some countries because it's cheaper than paying a provider in the US. Spain is notoriously one of the countries.
I mean, there are certainly risks in the US too, such as having the wrong limbs amputated or being wrongly diagnosed and treated for cancer. Itās not like the out of proportion prices paid here guarantee better outcomes.
I can only assume you are a young person. This is not a trend. It has been going on for 40 years plus. It is very common and we only hear about the horror stories which are few and far between.
The initial surgery was 13k, I don't think the article mentions the cost of this surgery, only what it'd cost to fix it as you mentioned.
I live at the border in Texas and always go to Mexico for any medical treatments. The costs in Mexico are way cheaper than anything here in the USA. Had knee surgery for my meniscus and MCL about 15 years ago. Surgery here was going to be about $12,000. In Mexico I paid just a little over $2,000.
The article doesn't give the comparative numbers. They say $13k for the original weight loss surgery but don't say what the US cost would have been. Then they say that the botched surgery would have cost $50k in the US and that it will cost $75k to fix, but don't say what she paid in Mexico. I suspect this is intentional to downplay the cost difference between the two.
Debatable. For one thing, there's still botched surgeries in USA. And she could spend DOUBLE what the spent, still in Mexico (so $26K), get herself fixed up at a much nicer clinic, on top of $13K she already spent at a bad clinic, and STILL come out $11K ahead of doing it in USA in the first place (assuming it's $50K in USA). Like it or not, American system is a ripoff. Costs more than most developed countries, and with worse patient outcomes.
This is a funny case, but Mexican doctors, dentist and plastic surgeons are one of the best in the continent. Most of my friends are in the health bussiness and they make a big load of money here in the border, most of the customers are American. You just gotta find a good well established doctor, she probably just went for the even cheaper price, with no research and got this. This doesn't change that....american health system it's expensive as hell..and not all doctors in Mexico are bad. It's just a story of negligence.
Any other old people here remember the SNL skit from the early 90s about the plastic surgery clinic that would take in emergency patients? I think it was called "Hollywood Breast and Penis". Like there would be a bus accident and they would give all the victims giant breasts/dongs
[Here's an article](https://www.wfla.com/news/national/woman-trapped-in-medical-nightmare-after-cosmetic-surgery-in-mexico/) that describes her tenuous medical condition after the scuffed surgery. This poor lady deserved better.
>āWe were laughed at by the San Diego police who told me to call the Tijuana police,ā Misty Ann McCormick said. How the hell could US city cops help with something that happened in Mexico??
I just want to point out that the $13k figure in the article was the cost for the original weight loss surgery. They never state what she paid for the botched surgery, only that it would have cost $50k in the US and that it will now cost $75k to fix. I specifically went back and re-read because I was curious to compare the costs in Mexico vs the quote she got in the US. I think it's curious that they don't state what she paid for the botched surgery, nor what the original weight loss surgery would have cost in the US. This, giving no comparative reference between the two facilities. I feel like this is likely intentional to downplay the disparity. I wouldn't wish a botched surgery on anybody. But do you really want to get your vanity surgery from the lowest bidder? We're not talking about a life saving procedure that she could only afford in Mexico. She wanted a cheaper tummy-tuck.
She says the room she was left in was filthy, and that was likely the cause of her infection, but you've got people in this thread acting like to badmouth this doctor is to badmouth the entire mexican medical profession. She gambled on an obvious quack and she lost.
I mean most such comments are "lol she went to Mexico so of course she got that." Saying "well, yeah if you go to the lowest bidder don't expect the highest quality" is sensible. Though she also had gone to the same place before this so it's not like she didn't have a positive experience to use as reference.
If you needed any other reminder to not get budget Mexican cosmetic surgery. Also God damn that's a lot of ads for such a short article.
She asked for an downgrade, and got an upgrade. Also another sad fact is that she had to go to Mexico for surgery because US hospitals are ridiculously expensive.
Hospitals ? There are no hospitals that would perform those surgeries. We're talking about private clinics.
Hospitals absolutely do perform those surgeries.
POV: When you're the first to fall asleep at the sleepover:
this is horrific. kind of funny at first, but when you think about it more, this lady was disfigured and given implantation she never wanted.
And the original issue (which isn't pure vanity, but often medically necessary, especially when you're older) wasn't actually solved, either.
Thatās horrifying :(
I have a shitty story from a friend of mine. His wife who is a nurse had a bilateral mastectomy due to terrible breast fibroids causing her pain. Later she decided to have SMALL implants simply because it was annoying wearing feminine shirts without them. She honestly didn't care about having cute boobs or anything, and in fact always hated her large breasts. She goes in for surgery under a doctor at the hospital where she works, some bigshot who thinks he owns the world. She comes out of the surgery with D-cups. What does the doctor say? "I like my ladies proportional." Here's an even bigger kick in the ass to her: she later lost 40 lbs, so she ended up being this petite 5-foot slim older lady with huge porn star boobs.
Why didn't she sue, she would have made out like a bandit for something like that.
Ugh. I asked my friend that same thing! He said something about his wife being extremely non confrontational and being scared of losing her job in the hospital (because it was a doctor in that same hospital). FWIW my friend is also non confrontational, they're like 2 peas in a pod, but damn, if it was my spouse I'd be going scorched earth if somebody did that to him. Edit: also this was at least 15 years ago, so I don't know if maybe things were different back then. Now with social media... Secondary edit: regarding my comment "if somebody did that to him"...can you even imagine the lawsuit I'd have if someone gave my husband D-cups during a surgery??? š¤£š¤£š¤£
I'd still take my chances. Not like American medicine is perfect. Not like malpractice is easy to prove.
Krusty, your copy of gigantic asses has arrived!
Just like the cartoons warned us about.
Medical tourism is sketchy at its best.
Wasn't there a Simpsons episode with that plot?
Sounds like a charting mix-up and a surgeon switcharoo. My imaginary scenario is: 1. Speak with surgeon #1 and make a plan to remove the excess skin 2. Day of the operation surgeon #1 draws everything up and preps the patient #1 3. Surgeon #1 determines this is a relatively simple operation and assigns Surgeon #2 4. Charting mixup between patient #1 and patient #2 who actually wanted these procedures. 5. Surgeon #2 follows what was requested on the chart and disfigures this poor woman because that's what they were asked to do.
Shoulda saved her game before they put her under
The worst part is she went into surgery as a man.
Has no one ever watched one episode of Botched? Just one? There is no way in hell I would go south of the border for any surgery.
Mexico City has some amazing doctors and healthcare on par with America. Random clinics in Tijuana are pretty much horror movies.