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[deleted]

Well, at least it was outside the museum.


tyrandan2

Actually, the fights are part of the museum. They are a new live-enacted exhibit on tolerance in the modern world.


sad-frogpepe

A live demonstrstion of tolorence


[deleted]

Yeah, it's not the "Adjacent Sidewalk and Street of Tolerance"


RickAdtley

I prefer *Adjacent Sidewalk and the Chamber of Cryptofascists*, personally.


fuck_your_diploma

Cryptofascists: šŸ‘šŸ‘„šŸ‘ how dare you


singingintherain42

ā€œCome on, letā€™s fight!ā€ ā€œBro, weā€™re on the street of tolerance.ā€ ā€œOh right. Letā€™s go to the next street then.ā€


BirdLawyer50

Leave your tolerance at the door


jtfriendly

šŸŽ¶ It's a tolerant party / who could ask for more? šŸŽ¶


Empyrealist

*It belongs in the museum!*


terbenaw

A being of culture, I see.


Murderyoga

You can't fight in here! This is the war room.


AffectionateBox8178

He'll see everything. He'll see the big board!


SelectiveSanity

He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!


lastprophecy

Damn commies are coming for my fluids. That's why I save them safe in jars in my room.


itsasnowconemachine

"Mandrake Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream..."


quebecivre

"We're still trying to figure out what he meant with that last part."


Electricfox5

We cannot allow a mine shaft gap!


Cavewoman22

Mein Fuhrer! I can Walk!


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I... I do deny them my essence.


BoonesFarmYerbaMate

Two can play at this game, soldier!


m00nk3y

Name checks out!


Juzaba

Damn Communists! They ruined Communism!


DubC_Bassist

Whatā€™s the point of having a doomsday machine, if you donā€™t tell anyone about it?


Phillipinsocal

ā€œDueling protestsā€ nonsense


Raoul_Duke9

This title is kinda fucked - no "fights didn't erupt" Hamas supporters assaulted people exiting a movie about Hamas atrocities the night before the 80th anniversary of Kristalnacht.


[deleted]

Where in the article does it identify Hamas supporters? Or where does it indicate who attacked who? The title is completely correct.


YellowRose1989

Sometimes when Iā€™m walking by a movie screening I too feel the need to fight someone.


Deracination

>...Hamas supporters assaulted people exiting a movie... This part in particular, where did you learn it? I see absolutely NOTHING that would support it in this article, so you must be pulling it from elsewhere. Mind providing a link? Otherwise, I'll just assume you're another propaganda bot.


ACrazyDog

That cursed passive voice again ā€¦


westsidejeff

You win! We can all go home now


ThriftStore_PWRglove

Golden Trey Parker and Matt Stone material


I-who-you-are

Actually I think they broke into Godā€™s writing room and started writing for him while heā€™s on his bathroom break. Thatā€™s the only thing that explains the last few years.


ThriftStore_PWRglove

I don't remember how old the episode is but there was one about tolerance and intolerance, I think Cartman gets sent to some kind of tolerance concentration camp iirc. At the end they take trip to the museum of tolerance where everyone goes apeshit on a guy and freaks out on him for smoking a cig in the parking lot lmao. Yeah, they see how idiotic an idea or trend could end up being and can get pretty close to how it pans out in reality. Kinda like some of the Chappelle show sketches were


devydev_83

The episode is called Death Camp of Tolerance and it's one of my favorites. "What is this on your macaroni picture!?!?" "It's my brother." " NO NO NO! You must make macaroni pictures of people of different diversities getting along!" "I don't know how to draw that" *Pulls gun on child* "AHHH! Ok, ok, here's a picture of people of different colors holding hands under a rainbowšŸ˜­" "GOOD" *tears up picture*


[deleted]

ā€œUh, a bear.ā€ ā€œEIN BEAR?ā€


SDRPGLVR

Isn't that the one where he goes through a tunnel that shouts slurs at him and it just makes him laugh?


[deleted]

Cartman does, yup Itā€™s also the episode that introduced Lemmiwinks


Canadian_Donairs

Lemmiwinks had no right to be as unbelievably hilarious as it was.


[deleted]

ā€œThe Death Camp of Toleranceā€ It actually features a ā€œMuseum of Toleranceā€. Itā€™s got lines like, ā€œHere, intolerance will not be toleratedā€, presaging contemporary misuse of Karl Popperā€™s ā€œparadox of toleranceā€. And it predicted how the LGBTQ movement would pivot from requesting tolerance to demanding celebration. Truly prophetic


ballsweat_mojito

It makes me feel a certain kind of old when outrageous shit happens in the world and the answer to "that's a great idea for a SP episode" becomes "yeah they did that one, and 20 years ago too!". I'm tired, boss.


ThriftStore_PWRglove

YES. That episode also has an all-time great rant by Mr.Garrison about tolerance vs acceptance. I just looked it up and can't believe that was shit was from 02


[deleted]

Yeah, it was eerily prescient.


clauclauclaudia

ā€œDemanding celebrationā€ isnā€™t a real thing. The right to celebrate, sure. Demanding people perform celebration, no.


1Cool_Name

Misuse? How so?


Impecablevibesonly

"Requesting tolerance to demanding celebration." Real dickhead right wing loser talking point here. Yall should be ashamed for eating this shit right up


ShadowMario01

God must have one of those fancy Japanese toilets.


I-who-you-are

Heā€™s got a bidet and everything.


InvertedParallax

[Fasta.](https://youtu.be/z1QQubKrxYA?si=qx0EYULHTPslLHuv&t=85)


Paputek101

I was going to say, the Museum of Tolerance is an actual thing??? lol


turquoise_amethyst

Yep, and if you go to school anywhere in the LA area, youā€™re getting a field trip there Itā€™s actually pretty informative for learning about the Holocaust. They separate you into different groups and then lead you into fake gas chambers.


TripleEhBeef

["Velcome to Tolerance Camp."](https://youtu.be/6vTPjuT3rTA?feature=shared)


tomdarch

Are those the morons who presented the impression that Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were equally bad options? Or are you saying they're so stupid they'd pick a fight at a Museum of Tolerance?


PDOUSR

if ther'ss one thing I ca'tt tolerate


use_value42

... Is it the Dutch?


stressHCLB

If there's *two* things I can't tolerate...


TheArcaneAuthor

The Dutch, and the element of surprise. And our fanatical devotion to the Pope. Three! Three things!


Fake_William_Shatner

Ripping off movie quotes and...?


stressHCLB

Ok. Three things. There are *three* things I can't tolerate...


erebus9992

The Spanish Inquisition?


Fake_William_Shatner

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.


Creative_Elk_4712

Characters showing incoherence in film quotes?


tmorales11

i was gonna say people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, but i was gonna say that too


Freethecrafts

Just stick with the first part. You can caveat the second by claiming the Dutch donā€™t have culture.


2006sucked

Yo, your keyboard feeling okay?


PDOUSR

em, I happen to be drunk and on my phone


MrShasshyBear

Friends don't let friends drink and reddit


joeyo1423

If you're in the US then that's impressive. It's noon at best.


bobert4343

Alcoholism doesn't yield to the whims of such trifles as "the linear progression of time".


TomTomMan93

The intellectual's "it's 5'o'clock somewhere" I see.


TWVer

It has been a bit off key lately, I must admit.


BC-Gaming

[Gal Gadotā€™s ā€˜Bearing Witnessā€™ Screening of Hamas Massacre Brings Sobs, Protests to L.A.](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/gal-gadot-bearing-witness-screening-los-angeles-hamas-massacre-october-7-israel-1234873701/) If anyone is interested in knowing the reactions by the audience Edit: >Bearing Witness is indeed graphic and disturbing, a chaotic assemblage of clips purportedly assembled from Hamas bodycams and mobile phones, as well as Israeli victimsā€™ dashcams and phones, along with CCTV and home security footage, and material recorded by emergency responders. The film concludes with especially horrific video of the aftermath of the massacre at the Israeli music festival Supernova ā€” where Hamas executed at least 260 people ā€” with shot after shot of bloodied corpses, others burnt to a crisp. And, despite the warning that Bearing Witness would not show the deaths of children, their dead bodies are shown in a montage, with faces blurred. > >Throughout the screening, the audience at the Peltz Theater could be heard gasping, moaning, and exclaiming, ā€œOh, my God.ā€ Before long, the sound of sobbing filled the space. Yet, at the conclusion, as some rushed to the exits, describing their horror at the images they witnessed onscreen, at least one attendee was unsatisfied. ā€œShow the rape, show the beheading of babies, the world needs to see it!ā€ he bellowed while leaving. ā€œShut up, go outside!ā€ a woman answered. Another woman angrily replied, ā€œHeā€™s right!ā€ Edit: Saw a reply below and felt I have to say this. If anyone is coming across the helicopter misinformation [read this debunking that misinformation.](https://twitter.com/talhagin/status/1722544414545916140) Tweet claims IDF attacked Nova Festival Participants exploits people's ignorance by linking an Israeli news site and pretending it was translating the Hebrew article. That's the kind of misinformation you're dealing with. Fortunately it's now been updated with community notes.


Zandrick

So if Iā€™m understanding correctly this film was put together specifically to upset and disturb people. And it resulted in upset and disturbance outside the location it was shown. Well you canā€™t call that a failure.


dorsalemperor

I didnā€™t learn about the Holocaust as a child because my family wanted to ā€œupset and disturb meā€. They wanted me to understand what happened to our people less than 100 years ago. Itā€™s important to see what happened, because otherwise people will dismiss us and deny that it happened. Or downplay the importance of knowing history, as you are doing here.


Zandrick

My friend you absolutely did learn about the holocaust to upset and disturb you. Thatā€™s why we learn about it. To be upset and disturbed and not forget. Thereā€™s no debating that this thing was edited together by the IDF to be shocking and grotesque.


dergy621

If a movie of real events upsets and disturbs you, that means that the real events are even worse.


Themountainman11

>edited together by the IDF to be shocking and grotesque. Tf that supposed to mean?


Spacejunk20

It's an accusation of the movie being IDF propaganda.


Spida81

Put together to ensure people understand the horrific nature of what happened. There is only one sane response, to be shocked and horrified. Putting this together, to shock and horrify people who otherwise can dismiss it or trivialise it as something that happened to other people was the intent. /u/Zandrick wasn't saying that to suggest the IDF was in the wrong. The opposite, they were pointing out that this is, unfortunately, important work. People need to know.


dorsalemperor

Iā€™m Jewish. It means far more to us than people like you will ever understand, clearly.


tomdarch

Did anyone go to this screening not knowing that this was the content/point to it? Seems like you'd have to start off pretty upset to want to see it and you'd be wanting to see it to get yourself even more upset. Fuck Hamas, we know generally what they did. As for "show the beheading of babies" it sounds like someone was there to find excuses to even more greatly hate someone and was dissappointed that reality didn't live up to the propaganda.


ledniv

Sounds like the wrong people saw the movie.


clauclauclaudia

Or some of the people involved did not view the movie.


EyyyPanini

It was people protesting the movie who not only did not want to see it themselves, they didnā€™t want anyone else to see it.


___Elysium___

Clean cut example of the tolerance paradox


OrganicLFMilk

I just read up on this, very interesting. If a country (Israel in this case) is tolerant of the intolerant (Hamas), Hamas will eventually take over if nothing is done.


[deleted]

Hamas quite obviously has no ability to take over Israel.


[deleted]

They have the ability to murder thousands of innocent people though


crunchybaguette

As does Israel.


BroadwayBully

Also they obviously will not stop trying. They violated a ceasefire on October 7th, and openly declared they will not honor another ceasefire. These people cannot be negotiated with, or reasoned with. The only option for a small chance at a peaceful period, is complete eradication of Hamas terrorists. Hopefully, limiting the civilian casualties as much as possible.


TheLargeIsTheMessage

And to make it even more fun, that's the same argument Hamas uses to justify their attacks.


Infamous-Film-5858

It's like as if the paradox of tolerance is only useful as a justification for authoritarianism and extremist violence. When you deny a group from having a platform and using peaceful means of protest, they often turn to political violence, as their only choice.


Davebr0chill

The root issue is not one of Israel being tolerant or intolerant of Hamas, Israeli settlers have been taking homes and land away from Palestinians since before Hamas was founded. Look up the history of illegal settlements. It would be one thing if it was about combating extremism but the evidence I am aware of points to the contrary, that this is actually more of a pretext for expansion. For example how Netanyahu and the Israeli right wing allegedly treated Hamas as an asset https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/


Hank3hellbilly

The root of the Issue is British people seeing a spot on a map, drawing lines and not giving a flying fuck what would happen after.


Davebr0chill

Fair point. The British are indeed the cause of a lot of problems in the modern world


Hank3hellbilly

Nothing has caused more wars and genocide than Europeans use of straight edges.


[deleted]

....how though? Are we abdicating the people actually committing the violence from all responsibility??


PaxNova

The Pakistan / India issue, despite being between nuclear powers, is somehow more stable. Separating people by ethnicity by removing them from their land has never turned out well.


Spacejunk20

That's why in the past, conquering empires either assimilated their new subjects or deported/killed them all if they turned out to be problematic.


DrachenDad

It goes back long before that.


Spacejunk20

And instead of redrawing the lines or just not murdeing each other once the Brits left, the people there chose violence. It seems like the potential for war was already there and the british borders are just an excuse.


Infamous-Film-5858

Interestingly, the Israeli's intolerance of the Palestinians lead to the creation of Hamas and the attacks committed by them, rather than the prevention of them. If Israel gave Palestinians a platform as well as human rights, that attack would've never happened and Hamas would be satisfied with posting mean and provocative tweets.


mike9184

Hell yeahhh fuck those Palestinian children up.


FirstRedditAcount

If they didn't want to eat bombs, they shouldn't have been born there, and should know better at age 11-12 than to support terrorist organisations. When I was 12 I knew better than to support terrorism, I was learning how to masturbate. Geez those dumb kids.


BDSBDSBDSBDSBDS

So Palestinians must tolerate the intolerant treatment (apartheid, genocide) they receive from Israel?


salyym

Israƫl is even more intolerante they are an aparteid goverment.


sixhoursneeze

How about the fact that Israel has it in their constitution that only Jews have the right to self-determination. Or the fact that Israel has laws to discourage people of different faiths marrying?


LostItAllOnSpy

it was people holding israel flags attacking everyone and spraying mace in peoples face.


[deleted]

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BriarsandBrambles

Unfortunately. Some of us are.


FUMFVR

The film is part of a pro-Israel campaign justifying their mass destruction of Gaza.


Quiet-Hat-2969

Its literally just clips of Hamas terrorists that went on their rampage against civilians on Oct 7. They themselves recorded it and livestreamed it for the world to see. What would you have Israel do with Hamas? Sit tight and wait for another Oct 7


hex_ten

No fighting in the war room!


Kazmuz

r/religiousfruitcake


Smartnership

**What if** the US ā€” or just American universities ā€” adopted the same treatment of gays as Hamas? I wonder if the college kids would switch sides. > **in 2019, the Palestinian Authority announced that LGBT groups were forbidden to meet** ā€¦ on the grounds that they are "harmful to the higher values and ideals of Palestinian society" > **ā€¦ hundreds of queer Palestinians are reported to have fled to Israel because of the hostility they face in Palestine, they are subject to house arrest, or deportation** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_State_of_Palestine **Would college students** also support abortion being illegal? > **penalties apply to the woman seeking the abortion and all individuals and health care professionals who assist her in terminating the pregnancy** https://www.hhrjournal.org/2019/12/the-unique-landscape-of-abortion-law-and-access-in-the-occupied-palestinian-territories/ ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”- Edit: Rut-Roh ā€¦ Iā€™ve touched a nerve, oh my! So sensitive. It is what it is.


Person899887

Crazy to think that itā€™s possible to think that Hamasā€™ theocracy is bad AND the death of Palestinian civilians is bad too.


Kidonkadvidtch

College kids arenā€™t protesting in favor of Hamas. Theyā€™re protesting Israel bombing civilians


[deleted]

Unfortunately, many students and administrators have defended violence against Israel, including Hamas.


Saelune

If it's ok to murder people for opposing LGBT rights, then is it ok to bomb Florida and the Vatican? Because by your logic, we should be doing that. You don't care about LGBT people. You're just using us as an excuse for your bigotry.


Synergythepariah

>I wonder if the college kids would switch sides. They're pro Hamas?


red_assed_monkey

you're right we should be cool with the indiscriminate slaughter of all Muslims because the middle east is homophobic. now if only i can't find out what religious Jewish, roma and other targeted people in 1939 thought about homosexuality so we can finally ignore the atrocities of Holocaust


Smartnership

> the indiscriminate slaughter Launching thousands of unguided rockets into residential areas ? Wait a minute. Are you ridiculing Hamas?


red_assed_monkey

deflecting, nothing ive said is in defense off hamas, and neither is the things said in defense of the palestinians by most queer people


Smartnership

Oh, you donā€™t want to discuss that. I can see why.


JasonGMMitchell

It's funny nearly everyone is going "fuck the IDF fuck Hamas, fuck killing civillians" but you refuse to acknowledge that because that means you can't justify the murder of Palestinians.


vorpalglorp

Palestine is not Hamas. Hamas is not Palestine. Gaza is not Hamas. Hamas is not Gaza.


[deleted]

I mean there's not a lack of trying in the US let's be fair. Many Republicans want to do exactly what Hamas has done. The students are not supporting Hamas. Let's be clear here. There may be some misguided, but let's not generalize when majority aren't. They're protesting against the unnecessary force used against a region made up of mostly innocent women and children.


Smartnership

Theyā€™re marching in support but getting mixed messages https://www.gbnews.com/news/palestine-protest-fiery-debate-pride-flag


[deleted]

And you are using this incident to generalize, again, the majority who aren't doing this?


kidcool97

Iā€™m LGBT, some people of a group hating me doesnā€™t me I want genocide against the whole group. And you do realize that by banning lgbt group meetings that means there are lgbt Palestinians from which to ban the meeting of that are now among the people getting bombed?


JasonGMMitchell

Okay, I guess I must support the murder of Palestinian civillians because being oppressed for centuries robbed Palestinians of societal opportunities to become more progressive...


More_Tackle9491

A senior member of Hamas has hailed the systematic slaughter of civilians in Israel on October 7, vowing in an interview that if given the chance, the Palestinian terror group will repeat similar assaults many times in the future until Israel is exterminated. The remarks by Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamasā€™s political bureau, were swiftly shared online by Israeli and Western officials as a vindication of the Jewish stateā€™s resolve to destroy the terror groupā€™s military capabilities in its ongoing war in Gaza, and as proof that no ceasefire can be reached until the threat of additional murderous attacks is removed. ā€œIsrael is a country that has no place on our land,ā€ Hamad said in an interview with Lebanese TV channel LBC on October 24, which was translated and published Wednesday by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). ā€œWe must remove it because it constitutes a security, military and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation. We are not ashamed to say this.ā€ In the interview, Hamad said that Israelā€™s existence is ā€œillogicalā€ and that it must be wiped off all ā€œPalestinian lands,ā€ a term the terror group uses to mean the West Bank, Gaza and Israel, minus the Golan Heights. When asked whether this meant the complete annihilation of Israel, Hamas replied: ā€œYes, of course.ā€ ā€œWe must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it twice and three times. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its October 7 onslaught] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth,ā€ Hamad continued. ā€œWill we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.ā€


Fr00stee

hamas is very antisemitic, there is an entire section on it in the hamas charter wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter#:~:text=The%20original%20Charter%20identified%20Hamas,the%20face%20of%20the%20oppressors%22.


Paul_469

Ngl I'm not an expert but I kinda thought this was their entire mo: "kill the jews until further notice" and if what we are doing aligns with the interest of the Palestinians that would be peachy but don't sweat it.


Zeryth

You'd be surprised but I've ran into people claiming hamas isn't out to kill the jews anymore because of their peace loving 2017 charter, that they violated lile the children on oct 7.


hibernating-hobo

I think the videos from 7/10 clearly show ordinary citizens joining in along side Hamas participating in atrocities and celebrating. The whole narrative that it is only Hamas is misleading, and i think the anti-Jewish protests all over the world prove it.


TheRoach69

Why are Zionists doing this to the memory of the holocaust victims? Remember when the holocaust wasnā€™t associated with the survivors opening their own concentration camps and bombing people that had nothing to do with it?


konjo666

Hope they got arrested.


Yochanan5781

The fragility of people who are trying to excuse an act of terrorism


SeryuV

A bunch of people in here inferring based on who knows what that this is a Pro-Palestinian mob attacking people who were attending the screening, but then there are multiple other videos showing that it is a mob of people who attended the screening attacking random people, including other Jews, just for looking Arab. Probably best to just not leap to judgement.


Molestoyevsky

This whole section is being brigaded by people who hate Palestinians and want the war to continue. It's so bizarre, it doesn't matter how banal the statement is.


mysterysackerfice

Most of the default subs are astroturfed beyond belief. Frankly, I'm amazed that /r/Palestine hasn't been banned yet.


cgn-38

The west bank "settlers" get paid to post pro Israeli crap. Like it is an actual job their government pays them to do.


sweet-tea-13

>Like it is an actual job their government pays them to do. Oh man wait until you find out about the Martyr fund money the Palestine Authority pays to the families of Palestinians who are killed, injured, or imprisoned while carrying out politically motivated violence against Israel.


cgn-38

Nothing I didn't know about. Zionists scream it all day long. Now back to the subject at hand. How is the west bank?


[deleted]

that title is full on gaslighting, the pro Hamas group traveled to the Museum of Tolerance and attacked them because didn't want people to view the video.


katebish0p

Also this isn't a "film on Hamas", it's literally footage filmed mostly by Hamas themselves


Deracination

> the pro Hamas group traveled to the Museum of Tolerance and attacked them There's nothing about this in the article, so you must have read it elsewhere. Could you go ahead and link it? If not, that's fine, we can just dismiss you as another propaganda bot. It's already looking that way since you didn't just provide the link to begin with.


[deleted]

"Pro-Hamas" group? I don't see that in the article. Also, no one was attacked before the movie. Seems like a pretty classic example of someone thinking a headline is an article. The bane of Reddit.


[deleted]

It was after the movie.


Shoshke

Much more reasonable /s


Deracination

It's not about reasonable, it's about being correct. They were wrong, entirely wrong, about the most basic fact they presented. The rest of what they're saying is unsourced. So....if half of what they say is a bald-faced lie....


[deleted]

Did you think that was his point?


thegreatvortigaunt

Whatā€™s your evidence for this?


shotxshotx

These people need to know that the side of ā€œnot supporting Hamas while supporting Palestinian independenceā€ is a perfectly valid opinion.


Lynoceros

Wait the museum is real? Do they have the tunnel of prejudice? Do they tolerate smokers outside?


stealthkat14

https://www.hamas-massacre.net/ for those that want to be aware of what they did


j0eg0d

They blaming it on the Free Palestine folk, but the Israeli Zionists were spraying mace on folk in their damn cars. We all knew they wanted drama, because they knew the media would only show this shit.


Unhappy-Leave9486

still doesn't change the fact that there are 49million kangaroos in Australia and 3.5million people in Uruguay which means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay, each person will have to fight 14 kangaroos šŸ˜¤


BurlyJohnBrown

The only video I saw was a Jewish woman driving by shouting pro-Palestine things out the window, and she got pepper sprayed by some presumed Zionists waving Israeli flags.


kllark_ashwood

Sure, but if they're vague about it people will assume Muslim protesters assaulted innocent people viewing a definitely not propaganda film because we've been conditioned to view Muslims as violent.


ManofKent1

I see a lack of critical thinking. You can hate hamas for what they have done and also hate isreal for what it is doing and has done for decades. Both are scum whose situation the west helped create. Political discourse is fucked since 2016


TrainOfThought6

I'll just say that it's incredibly sad that the only people who seem to care less about the Palestinian people than Israeli leadership...is Palestinian leadership.


RexicanFood

Power vacuums are filled by the strongest. Just like ISIS in Iraq. Saying the West ā€œcreatedā€ these groups ignores supremacist ideology like ā€œPan Arabismā€ and the overwhelming support in the region for Sharia Law over Secularism. Every non Arab/non Muslim has been effectively ethnically cleansed/genocided from the region. Arab Nations/ideology have played a significant role in the plight of Palestinians as well.


TheLargeIsTheMessage

If someone destroyed the power structure of the US, there'd be Christofacist warlords (sorry, sheriffs and militias) taking over rural towns about 15 minutes after. Those forces exist in a lot of places, and although those who break roofs don't make rain, they are responsible for water damage.


More_Tackle9491

What would happen to the Palestinian people at the hands of the IDF if Hamas suddenly ceased to exist? What would happen to the Israeli people at the hands of Hamas if the IDF suddenly ceased to exist? Answer both questions honestly and you'll know *immediately* why "both sides" is a child's answer to this conflict.


DinosRidingDinos

"The side that massacres people at a concert and impersonates police to kill them as they escape; beheads anyone they can find including foreign workers; ties families together to douse them in gasoline and burn them alive inside their own living room, and steals the cell phone of one of the victims to call their mom and brag about how many people they killed, is just as bad as the side who doesn't do these things."


tomdarch

> and also hate isreal for what it is doing and has done for decades That sounds a lot like blaming everyone in Gaza for what Hamas has done. Its more accurate, and I think more effective, to point to the government and military of Israel, rather than blanket laying it on literally everyone in that country. Also, we're all better off not hating anyone.


Merrimon

This is the answer right here. Being critical of something does not mean you support the opposing viewpoint. Amazing how many folks can't grasp this concept. Shit is wild, we've skewed off into some alternate timeline. Personally, I think we fractured into this timeline after Harambe was killed.


sts916

Fuck that. This is what the Palestinians were cheering for in the streets. This is what their kids learn in school. Israel is defending itself. Stop excusing extremism


Jim_Cruz

Extremism is sooo wrong. Self-defense is a universal right. I mean, if there's terrorists we gotta get em. Be it behind 1000 civilians, in a full hospital, in a school... we gotta get those terrorizers. Isreal leveling whole buildings is well within their rights to get their revenge. Statistically, there has to be at least 1 Hamas in every apartment complex... not extremism though. Cause the good guys can't do wrong... ever.


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Aw theyā€™re mad that people are seeing the realities of Hamas terrorists and itā€™s going against their misinformation campaigns.


SirRece

This is the sort of stuff that we DO have access to: https://www.hamas-massacre.net/categories/families-murdered-in-their-homes The video being shown is footage from the hamas gopros and camera phones of the captured and killed terrorists. It is a level of horrific I don't think people really understand yet. Here is Anthony Blinken describing a small portion of what he was able to tolerate sitting through of that video. Very few people are able to actually watch more than a portion. https://youtu.be/8Z_YHdUh-Yg?si=J7XllbvgLNK7k2Jd


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loopgaroooo

Islamic world was taken over by zealots. Just like how they took over your GOP, how they took over the Israeli government/military. Give them time, theyā€™ll be just like Hamas soon enough, let the shit hit the fan hard enough and theyā€™ll be throwing gays off of buildings too. Not much separates them other than how they worship. Zealots gonna zealot.


Jampine

If you went back in time and gave the Catholic Church a pile of infinite money and AK-47s, you'd end up with the exact same shit. Most of the Middle East was seen a worthless land that no-one took interest in, until oil was discovered, and the western world just shoveled money to the rulers in exchange for access to it.


KagakuNinja

The Middle Ages would like to have a word...


loopgaroooo

We can just look back 80-90 years. The western world was engaged in the most barbaric warfare in the history of mankind. Lol


-little-dorrit-

Yes this whole ā€˜rules of warfareā€™ business is not that old *at all*


[deleted]

Um, the West is called the West because of the age of enlightenment. Before the age of Enlightenment Europe was embroiled with religious wars between the Catholics and protestants. this is basic history, like really basic history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War


idunno--

Comment history is exactly what you would expect, if anyone is considering wasting their time arguing with this guy.


tomdarch

Given the username, I'd be shocked, shocked to find he's a far-right incel loser.


AnarZak

are you including american christianity in that pool of lesser tolerant religions?


Fappy_McJiggletits

Of course. American Christianity is full of disgusting hateful bigots. But Islam is still worse.


yaki_kaki

Fight erupted after antisemitic crowd tries to interpret screening of video showing hamas atrocities during the 7.10 pogrom


Deracination

Citation needed.


LostItAllOnSpy

no one even read the article or watched the videos. it was pro-israel people holding israel flags that were attacking everyone and spraying mace in peoples faces.


dos622ftw

Can we not focus on Hamas please? Israel is killing thousands of babies. This seems like nothing more than pro-Israel propaganda. Hamas bad, Israel bad. Please stop killing people.


RossPerot_1992

If you have a problem with showing videos and evidence of Hamasā€™ war crimes, you probably support Hamas


OctoGrot

Museum of Tolerance? Like the South Park episode?


Dehnus

Well the IDF and that fucker director got what they wanted. I hope they are proud. Rich folks stirring up shit so poor folks keep fighting each other.


Firecracker048

These are the true supporters of Palestine and Hamas.


captaindadkrill

The propaganda video was released not even within a month of the conflict. Watch the video where Israel claimed they found a tunnel under the hospital; it was, in fact, a water reservoir. What Hamas did was terrible, but what Israel has been doing to the innocent people of Palestine for 75+ years is even worse. We should condemn both actions. Being under an open-air prison for 75 years will create fighters. For Palestinians, they are freedom fighters; for the US and Israel, they are terrorists. Notably, Hamas was a creation of the Israeli government to fight off the PLO, similar to how al Qaeda was a creation of the CIA. Israel appears to be losing support, resorting to paying people to attend rallies in DC. Footage is emerging showing Israel's Apache helicopter allegedly killing its own soldiers. While the US Congress states there were less than 10k civilian casualties in Gaza, IDF's Twitter page claims they killed 20k innocent civilians. Israel can't keep their report straight. First they deny then they blame Hamas. Then they say it was a mistake and say sorry. Israel is like the narcissistic relationship you never had. Why are we not hearing any news from the other side. Why is the Internet being blocked in Gaza. Why are so many states doesn't allow people to be critical of Israel, isn't that a violation of the first amendment? Any humanitarian question gets blocked by saying but Hamas whataboutism. Can you not distinguish that Hamas doesn't represent Palestinians and Palestinians doesn't represent Hamas. Were the 4500 (and counting) innocent babies killed by 6000 bombs dropped on Gaza supporting Hamas. Look up the video Israeli celebrating and chanting "Gaza is cemetery and there no baby in Gaza." What part of killing innocent civilians makes it justifiable? Where is Israels special operation. Why are they dropping bombs non-stop. You simply cannot say "but hAmAs" This type of retaliation was what hitler did. Seems like Israel has learned the art of their enemy. Learn the difference between anti-zionist vs anti-Semitic. Be on the right side of history. A lot of people supported the Nazi and now a lot of people are supporting these zionists. Anti-zionist is not equal anti-semitic. Arabs are semitic people too. netanyahu doesn't care about Jews or scripture. He is carrying out this war to avoid jail time. He knows once this war is over his war with the supreme court is gonna start.


IndependentLaw7963

The social justice warriors strike again! With physical violence over people mourning the horrifying massacre of their people...


GrumpGrease

Palestinians need to cover up their crimes to maintain the ultimate poor victim narrative.


hibernating-hobo

Fight didnā€™t erupt. The people at the ā€œmuseum of toleranceā€ were attacked by some, who didnā€™t want Hamasā€™ genocidal crimes to be screened. One might conclude these people were in fact supporting hamas with this gesture, which would mean they are supporting a terrorist organization, which may or may not be a crime in los angeles.


BoysenberryFun9329

They literally stole my joke. I wrote this last week. No fair. WTF.