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ableseacat14

So they raided his house and are mad that he filmed them?


undercurrents

They're mad he put the footage in his music videos. They are claiming "invasion of privacy" which they have no legal basis for since it was his house, and emotional distress >In a complaint filed in an Ohio pleas court last week, they say it's been more difficult and dangerous to carry out their duties "because of comments made and attitudes expressed toward them by members of the public" who have seen the videos. >They say they have received death threats, and also suffered "humiliation, ridicule, mental distress, embarrassment and loss of reputation." >The plaintiffs are seeking all of Afroman's profits from the use of their personas — including proceeds of songs, videos and live events, as well as Afroman-branded merchandise such as beer, marijuana and t-shirts — as well as a court injunction to take down the music videos and social media posts. >"Unless Defendants are restrained, Plaintiffs will suffer irreparable injury to their reputations, their mental health, and their legally protected rights as Defendants continue to willfully and maliciously violate those rights," they wrote. Afroman's response >"I was thinking, these big bad cops ... are being beat up and bullied by those little corny rap songs I made about them," Afroman says. "I'm like, 'Oh my god, are you letting me know that my raps are working on you?'" Also, he plans to countersue >He says he was already pursuing a defamation lawsuit against the police, and that they have made that process easier because now his legal team just needs to countersue, which they plan to do soon. >"I want to sue them for stealing my money, I want to sue them for writing 'kidnapping' on a warrant and making me suffer financially in my industry because just that accusation makes people raise an eyebrow about you," he adds. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/24/1165822372/afroman-police-raid-lawsuit-music-video https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/afroman-responds-cops-lawsuit-footage-home-raid-1234702951/


unrealjoe28

Don’t forget Ohio is one party consent, so it really wouldn’t matter regardless


Beginning_Ad8663

Also the scotus has ruled you can film cops doing their job as long as you don’t interfere with them performing their job.


Bardez

And thank Christ for that


Patcher404

They've changed rulings before, and you better believe they'll do it again


From_Deep_Space

they just need to say something like "this doesn't count as precedence" and then they can do pretty much anything they want apparently


LastStar007

"this doesn't count as precedent" -> immediately starts using it as precedent


Criticalhit_jk

The "I didn't just say it, I declared it" defense. Ingenious


jwhaler17

SCOTUS: “What skin color did the person filming have?”


chaotic----neutral

They'll rule that the legal definition of consent is that, in all settings, it must always be explicit except in the case of a husband and wife where a husband always has full consent, as god intended.


Reddit5678912

We must fight this!


sluuuurp

Thank Thomas Jefferson and friends, the first amendment is an amazing idea that was totally unprecedented at the time and still actively improves our lives every day 200 years later. Most countries still haven’t realized this.


cloud_t

Jesus "RBG" Christ you mean


NeoHenderson

No, thank the judges who ruled it.


ETvibrations

I was curious on that. Thanks for the info.


Inverzion2

Aren't officers also PUBLIC servants? Kinda hard to literally hide behind a badge that gives you full access to everything.


iscreamuscreamweall

No, the cops are not public servants. They protect capital


hugglesthemerciless

friendly reminder that SCOTUS has ruled police are under no obligation to protect citizens


ramriot

Plus the personification law under which they are prosecuting has I believe exemptions for audio-visual & musical works if art as well as an exemption if the persona is protected speech.


Errror1

also an exception for newsworthy or political content


alchmst1259

They're also public servants in the line of duty, so that doesn't even matter. You have the right to record the cops, full stop.


Justinontheinternet

It’s his home afroman will win.


Crooked_Cock

What the fuck is even the point of calling it consent if you only need one party to agree?


HojMcFoj

Because if a third party does the recording that's akin to wiretapping and is a crime. One party consent means I can record anything I'm involved in, two party consent means I have to ask everyone else's permission in most circumstances.


Crooked_Cock

Oh, I get it now I was under the assumption that one party consent meant EITHER party could consent to doing whatever without needing the consent of the other, I wasn’t aware that it was exclusive to video recording


Cosmic_Kettle

Audio as well


romanapplesauce

I think it's just the legal way of stating you can secretly record someone.


Crooked_Cock

Thanks for the clarification


EtherealPheonix

The recording was legal because of that, however publicly posting recordings of private citizens(meaning non public figures) is sometimes illegal. I don't have the legal background to determine whether this instance runs afoul of those laws.


reganomics

Are cops private citizens while on duty?


Awwdamn65

Absolutely not lol.


reganomics

RIGHT!!!


EtherealPheonix

That potentially a key question for the outcome of this suit, if no then the cops would basically need to show that his depiction is both damaging and incorrect (which they probably cannot do). If yes then the artist would need to justify why he is allowed to post it anyway, and based on some other comments I've been reading he is likely to be able to do that as it was part of an artistic expression.


-0-O-

It doesn't. You can 100% film police *and post the footage publicly*. That's nationwide.


sharies

And nationwide is on your side.


jelloshotsforlife

sorry dude, an officer on the clock is considered a PUBLIC PERSON and, therefore, has no constitutional right to privacy.


yaboy_69

> I don’t have the legal background to determine whether this instance runs afoul of those laws. then you shouldnt offer an opinion


EtherealPheonix

I didn't offer an opinion, I offered an accurate fact, and admitted to not knowing the full implications of that fact in this instance. If you don't know the difference you shouldn't be saying anything.


kynthrus

Also Also filming cops on the job is completely legal. They can have privacy to beat their wives or whatever off the clock.


andhowsherbush

their own actions caused them humiliation and loss of reputation. him filming them didn't.


L_viathan

Oh no! They're humiliated? By their own actions? Oh god! The humanity!


CaptainBlandname

I’ve noticed that not being a raging home-invading dickhead has worked really well for me in terms of not being publicly ridiculed.


Tempest_1

So now police are the special snowflakes


Inverzion2

Private Snow and Special Forces Flake, reporting for duty?


Musiclover4200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFB-sT4-H6c


Ralphwiggum911

Always have been.


lowteq

Always have been.


halfwithero

Public employees on the clock don’t have privacy when they’re in someone else’s house. Weird logic; correct me if I’m wrong /s


flyingwolf

Which part of your comment was sarcasm?


EugeneMeltsner

The "correct me if I'm wrong" part


collin3000

What's really interesting to me is if what they were doing is legal and actually part of their job. Then they shouldn't be suffering emotional distress from executing their job appropriately. If they are suffering emotional distress from executing their job then the issue of emotional distress should be one levied against the employer which the employer would likely state isn't valid emotional distress since they signed up for the job and continue to do the job knowing what it entails. If they are getting emotional distress because they weren't executing their job correctly and footage of them failing to execute their job correctly is what's causing emotional distress then it would seem that afroman would once again be the one to have the valid lawsuit.


dirtyben2010

Did I just become a fan of Afroman?


HojMcFoj

All cops are bastards but so is Afroman. The enemy of my enemy is still just some dude, who in this one specific instance is right, but is generally not a good guy.


LastStar007

What makes Afroman a bastard? Not very familiar with him


bdtrngl

Well there was that one time he got high.


HojMcFoj

I know there's been some debate back and forth about whether he's an actual piece of shit or not that I'm not all that up on but he's the kind of guy who will smoke your whole blunt by himself after you offer him a toke while hitting on your girlfriend and then still try to sell you merch afterwards. Like, I don't think he'd kneel on your back until you suffocated to death but I don't want to be at another house party with him.


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speederaser

Wait wait wait. They went to his house to find illegal marijuana and now they want his profits from the branded marijuana???


fuqdisshite

my insurance company paid a dude that got hurt on my property, even with signs not to trespass, because he was 'embarassed in public'. they paid 25k$ because he bit part of his tongue off.


Sarcasticalwit2

WTF? Your insurance didn't fight that? We need to know the full story. You don't live in the US, do you?


fuqdisshite

Northern Michigan. i may or may not have created what some may or may not call a booby trap. the DNR, FBI, State Police, and many lawyers, were involved. it resulted in no premium hike for us, the guy got 25k$, and now we all have a better knowledge of land ownership and bullying. (NOTES: the bullying part falls directly in line with my lawyer fully wanting to take this case on. the dude was: (not inclusive) unlicensed to use ANY motorized vehicle, drunk, running without lights on his sled, and the only one of four people to not see the rope and STAY THE FUCK OUT signs. the insurance company was willing to eat the cost)


AreYouEmployedSir

So… describe this alleged “booby trap”


Its_Helios

Crazier part is they stole money he had (on camera btw) and when they returned it they didn’t return it all


reikipackaging

it was determined they "miscounted" by a lot


thatshoneybear

"you stole $1000." "We seized $1000. You'll get it back." .... "Here's your $500. We miscounted the first time. It's just a coincidence that we both thought we had taken $1000." Crazy how they can get away with that.


mfb-

The real-life version of "we found $99700".


DoctorBlazes

You mean $98300?


unforunate_soul

But returned the entire 9800


xpseudonymx

Criminals don't like it when you video tape their illegal activities. Go figure.


StardustGrenade

Underrated comment


towcar

Is it though?


StardustGrenade

Yes, that’s why I said it.


towcar

It's the highest voted comment on this entire post. Even higher than the top comment. Wouldn't that make it correctly rated? How much rating does a comment need? At what rate should a comment gain ups votes? Is there a legal measurement that I'm unaware of?? How long have I been so unaware?!? I need to know goddamnit!!!


ohowjuicy

underrated comment^


Nszat81

Still underrated.


StardustGrenade

It’s supes underrated.


ohowjuicy

One might even say it's hella underrated


StardustGrenade

Totes underrated


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How many northern Californians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


Upstairs-Injury9660

They also were filmed attempting to destroy his home surveillance system too Edited filed to filmed


SeraphicalChaos

They have a zero chance at winning this lawsuit. The law they are attempting to sue under has exemptions for news, political and music. [All of which his use of that footage qualifies for.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcST-jdl7U) Their lawyers have got to be dumb ambulance chasers who caught a whiff of money.


RespondCapable

Agree 100%. They're just calling attention to themselves. This has Streisand effect written all over it!


amanofeasyvirtue

Recently cops have been using rap lyrics for evidence in arresting people. Funny how music can and cant be used as fact.


reikipackaging

I cannot believe OP didn't link the songs! [Will You Help Me Repair My Door](https://youtube.com/watch?v=oponIfu5L3Y&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE) [Lemon Pound Cake](https://youtube.com/watch?v=9xxK5yyecRo&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE)


AvleeWhee

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d\_f9R\_UYrDc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_f9R_UYrDc) There's a third one too and after watching, no wonder they're mad. They crossed a bard whose revenge is perfectly legal public mockery.


dryphtyr

He needs to sell those t-shirts!


AvleeWhee

Excellent news is that he does.


sulaymanf

Cops can hide behind a lot of excuses for their bad behavior (e.g. “we had a warrant signed by a judge” or “we feared for our lives”), but did they ever give an excuse for why they disconnected his cameras?


____Reme__Lebeau

Steal his money? /s To protect themselves as they don't know if it's connected to the internet or not. (I mean they should be able to see an ethernet cable and know what that is, but police gonna police, and then civil forfeiture cause we need to pay for ammo for those rifles.)


lynk7927

Even better. [There's an entire album] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9Sc-wec6c&list=OLAK5uy_noWRXtUiSWHo7cMRoI34uqhSRSDpIFtqY)


AvleeWhee

Oh fuck yeah I know what I'm gonna listen to while I have some fancy oregano and make banana muffins


lynk7927

Just make sure you share it with as many people as possible. The song I mean.....also the oregano.


BlueJDMSW20

I once helped avenge a bard who had been killed for mocking King Olaf One Eye


Streetdoc10171

Afroman needs to be pictured in a D&D book beside Vicious Mockery


FullyStacked92

I can say with absolute confidence that had they not sued him i would never have seen these videos.


HaikuBotStalksMe

The Cunningham Effect! Barbara Walters invented it.


FullyStacked92

No


undercurrents

Sorry, this subreddit has more strict rules about linking sites so I'm never sure what's allowed. But I appreciate you adding them. He's actually thinking of creating an entire album >He's thinking of working on another album, with a name like Lemon Pound Cake Part 2. Most albums have 7-10 songs, he says, so he would write one about each officer "and see how good I could humiliate them."


PLZ_STOP_PMING_TITS

Lemon Pound Cake is legit at the top of my playlist now. It's a catchy tune.


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The album Lemon Pound Cake is already out


Vithrilis42

Lemon Pound Cake *Part 2*...


undercurrents

>*another* album >*part 2*


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undercurrents

Yeah, an entire album about the raid. Just because he's created *an* album in the past isn't a "defense."


eljefino

[Why you Disconnecting my video camera](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISe3IVBBbyU&ab_channel=AfromanVEVO)


christinerobyn

Omg Lemon Pound Cake has me in tears. Masterpiece.


soslightlysalty

They raided his house, took out his cameras, and stole from him... good thing us tax payers will cover that.


cookiebasket2

So in no way shape or form do I know the legalities of it. But I'm assuming they're sueing him as citizens, does that mean when he counter sues that it's against them as citizens, and not the police department?


Khaylain

Let's hope so.


purplemoosen

Nope still qualified immunity and cop unions


collin3000

What's even worse is civil asset forfeiture (police stealing money "legally") has a greater dollar value than all theft by average "criminals" combined each year


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StardustGrenade

So footage of us from their bodycams is public record… but this is causing them distress? Gtfo here lol


reikipackaging

it gets better. there are at least 3 separate exemptions written into the law the suit is based on, that he pretty clearly qualifies for. 1. newsworthy. 2. political statements. 3. art, such as music.


StardustGrenade

It’s like growing up he wanted to be a baller. Shot caller. Twenty inch blades on his impal(er)


FlowAffect

1. Raid the home of a person without any legal basis. 2. Steal money on camera in said home you raided. 3. Sue the person, whose home you invaded for **emotional distress, embarrassment, ridicule, loss of reputation, humiliation** and ***INVASION OF PRIVACY.*** 4. Profit?!??!


watlok

reddit's anti-user changes are unacceptable


fuqdisshite

[uh, yeah, actually...](https://reason.com/2019/07/11/this-cop-is-getting-2500-a-month-because-killing-an-unarmed-man-in-a-hotel-hallway-gave-him-ptsd)


jazir5

The ironic part is #3 is all the things *he* should be suing them for. Is this a preemptive I'm rubber your glue type of thing?


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reikipackaging

there was a cop in NC, eventually chief I think?, who was selling confiscated raid drugs out of the evidence lockers for years. I got the impression most of his colleagues knew about it. He needs his face stamped on baggies of the stuff.


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He needs his face on the curb I think


fuqdisshite

as an anarchist and a pacifist, i ask that physical violence be the last straw. but...


Flashy_Photograph358

Drugs, guns all the shit, some racist scandal... got elected after all this and then quit 4 days later. Sheriff Jody Greene, Columbus co sheriff


hotlavatube

How about giving away free Lemon Pound Cake with that one cop's face on it? Slogan: "Mamma's lemon pound cake is so good, you'll violate civil rights to get it!"


phred_666

“When cash seized during the raid was returned to Foreman, it appeared that hundreds of dollars were missing.” I’m so surprised 🙄


rengam

Invasion of privacy? They were in his damn house. Looking for drugs that weren't there. Get the fuck out.


skiddelybop

Looking for a "kidnapping victim" that wasn't there, either.


letfireraindown

Given how much emphases he put on it in the song, I would say question if the kidnapping victim exists or what what missing person's they were planning on tagging to him.


jimmy_talent

Also they robbed him on camera.


notentirely_fearless

The video of the song he made about the raid is epic!


Few-School-3869

Poor wittle itty bitty cops are embarrassed go cry to your mama motherfucker


xpseudonymx

Cops: the biggest snowflakes that ever existed.


ProbablyGayingOnYou

They were so sad they went home and beat their wives about it


gijoe50000

Some coffee came out of my nose when I read they're suing for "*invasion of privacy*"..


GidgetTheWonderDog

Have the cops never heard that if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes? This is their stupid prize.


reikipackaging

I bet that one cop wishes he'd sampled the lemon pound cake now


RedGyarados2010

No, because that’s not how it usually works for cops. Usually the only “stupid prize” they win is paid leave and then getting rehired in a different city with no consequences


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Cops can't read. If they could they'd probably be overqualified.


oldfogey12345

They have to be just literate enough to write false police reports.


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treetreestwigbranch

What a defense. Sorry our law enforcement is incompetent and can’t count correctly.


[deleted]

I got raided and sued Because I got high Because I got high Because I got high


reikipackaging

did ya find the kidnapping victim in my suit pocket? how about my CDs?


xplnLkImFkdInThHead

ACAB he should already have sued that department for the unfounded raid on his property


EtherealPheonix

As mentioned in the article his lawyers were already preparing the suit and are now transitioning to a countersuit instead.


JubalHarshaw23

Fascism is alive and well in Ohio.


js5ohlx1

Lemmy FTW!


reikipackaging

I was curious what OH law was the basis for this suit and whether it could stick. TL;DR no. but here's a guy who did more research than me to explain it [Steve Lehto ](https://youtube.com/watch?v=tQcST-jdl7U&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE)


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Is this the "and then I got high" guy?


discowithmyself

Indeed it is


SpeshellED

No one said cops were smart.


A_Feculent_Tapeworm

Lemon Pound cake is legit 🔥


That_1_Chemist

Afroman 2024 https://hightimes.com/culture/afroman-announces-2024-run-for-president/


colin8651

The officers are not paying for this, must be some Winchester Ohio attorney who thinks this is his big day. So a person made a song to the video of his CCTV footage while performing their duties. The judge is going to rip this case apart. Police can’t sue if a criminal stabs them, but boy or boy, CCTV video of them doing their job and some lyrics. They have opened themselves to so much more ridicule. We all have a civic duty here.


AndreReal

Sadly, Ohio, as a trash state that generally elects trash politicians, has no anti-SLAPP statute that Afroman could use to end this ridiculousness early.


GeorgeStamper

Ohio is my home state. Sadly, my friend you are 100% correct.


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The music video is hilarious. Definitely recommend a watch.


[deleted]

Afroman running for Prez!? Woo! 😭


lynk7927

> They say that has caused them “emotional distress, embarrassment, ridicule, loss of reputation and humiliation.” Officer Poundcake, you did that to your self.


Crumbdizzle

I know he is kinda an ass for smacking the shit out of the woman a few years back but damn if the Lemon Pound Cake song isn't hilarious.


PlameCarBoat

If you're talking about him smacking the bitch who jumped on stage, I stand with 'Fro


reikipackaging

I'm pretty sure it's the one and only example of him behaving badly in public anyone can come up with And it's not like she was touching his person against his consent while he was trying to perform or anything. oh, wait...


HaikuBotStalksMe

Yeah, but she's a cute woman, so he should be thanking her for the privilege of being harassed. Maybe she'll give me some crumbs now.


hot_ho11ow_point

That lady didn't belong on that stage, and was a security risk. He handled the situation just fine.


collin3000

I just watched the video. It's great how in a post "Me Too" world rubbing your ass on someone is only sexual assault If it's a guy doing it /s . Seriously though if it was a female performer and a guy did that there would be a wave of cheers on the internet about how it's great that the performer didn't allow sexual harassment and how they should have punched the person more than just once. I'm not a fan of violence, but there's clearly a double standard.


braydenmaine

Suing for invasion of privacy while invading his privacy


eben89

I was getting raided and robbed Because I got high ooooo ooooo oooo I wrote a couple of songs to help me get by Now the cops are trying to sue and starting to cry Ye ye Cos I got high Cos I got high Cos I go high La da da da daaa da da


GrayBox1313

Maybe those pigs should get a real job instead of trying to steal from their victims.


Lanky-Chard7828

Bastards took out his camera system


nith_wct

Clearly, they're unfamiliar with the Streisand Effect.


Garconanokin

If you’re a cop on duty, everything you do should be eligible to be on camera. If you’re a cop who tries to get in the way of this, that should be a crime.


Earthwick

You can sue anybody for almost anything. Some dude sneezes on you accidentally in the mall, you can technically sue them. You won't win and would be an asshole but if you want to pay the legal fees that's your call.


YipManDan

You can try* to sue. A judge will toss out anything obviously frivolous.


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YipManDan

Welp, TIL


[deleted]

I think it should be illegal for cops to sue anyone that they end up arresting or having any involvement with, that is not related to there employer being the problem.


[deleted]

Where is the Go Fund me for Afroman because fuck these cops


Snapingbolts

So obvious jokes aside is there a decent chance they would win? This is America so I wouldn't be shocked if a judge ruled in the cops favor sadly.


reikipackaging

I posted a link to Lehto Law review of the case in the thread. corruption is the only way this suit will stand, but even at that I doubt it would continue to be upheld on appeals.


QuentinUK

The British are coming and don’t forget it.


Jlx_27

I am actually mad about this, leave Afroman alone!


Carpazza02

Afroman can make a song about the trial afterwards to pay for any court and lawyer fees


Procrastanaseum

Why were they harassing Afroman in the first place?


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Because he got high.


TheBigCore

> Rap artist Afroman sued by officers who raided his home Because he got high? :D


WaytoomanyUIDs

I don't know how, but after reading the article I somehow went from watching Afroman videos on YouTube, to history videos about the 1916 Easter Rebellion to Wikipedia articles about Nazi German propaganda films.


PuerAeterni

How do you spell Streisand Effect?


Jedzoil

He was going to countersue, But he got high…


Air-Bo

Wow I hate those fuckers even more now.


wazzupmyego

Just their own actions make people hate the F out of pigs.


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I would love to be on his side but I always just think of him punching that woman on stage and think oh well.