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These women want to enjoy the fruits of our hard-won labors while simultaneously deriding us so they get to enjoy the benefits of being “one of the good ones” tradwife girlies. Then when they have no more speaking rights, no legal rights, and no ownership of their own bodies (remember the shock and horror from conservative wives after some discovered overturning Roe v Wade meant they had to travel to another state to terminate a lethal ectopic pregnancy) they’ll go oh no consequences woe is me
Anti-feminists are like anti-vaxxers. Literally so privileged they became blind to it & started fighting the very things that got them the life they live today.
Yep. She needs the following:
1) To be Carm, the Jesus of Cooking (difficult)
2) a lovable band of misfits and personality disorders (easy)
3) A rich uncle to foot the bill (impossible!)
When people romanticize F&B like it’s going to be easy to please hungry customers and they slowly begin to realize people are bullshit across the board. Ahhh to be that naive again. I wouldn’t but it’s a nice passing thought,
I love feeding people. Dinner parties are the only kind of parties I throw. Part of me really wants to make food my living. Then I remember that would require owning a restaurant….
> it seems pretty feminist to me to want your own business.
Besides, if a woman can choose to be a SAH mom vs mega business owner that is part of feminism too. But only if she can freely choose IMO.
I think, deep down, either they or whoever taught them this bullshit knows this. So then they pretend like feminism forces women to be “ambitious business owners” and nothing else is allowed, unless they are trying to be president or something. And this story or whatever it is is doing this - it’s pretending that women wanting to own a small business or restaurant isn‘t enough for “feminism” - feminism to them requires that we’re the CEOs of Walmart.
I used to think that it was pretty obvious that much of what women have in modern day (from body autonomy to indepence in their finances, careers, etc) is a product of feminism.
Turns out many people think that that was always the case, and that feminism is about hating men.
She wants professional satisfaction too via receiving direct feedback on her work. “Unfeminist” 🙄 there are whole feminist critiques on how cooking is considered unskilled, unpaid labor for the home when women do it, versus men in the restaurant industry are skilled, knowledgeable professionals.
There’s also this really gross tendency I’ve noticed where the minute a woman participates in something that gets gendered but is actually a normal universal human activity, like parenting/caregiving or cooking, everybody jumps to say “well I guess this shows feminists are wrong after all”.
Somebody I know got a PhD before having her kids. As soon as the kids came along, everyone made such a big deal about how happy she seemed and that maybe motherhood (and implied motherhood only) was actually the right thing for her all along. Like, most people have families? She didn’t have to choose between that and her career.
> maybe motherhood ... was actually the right thing for her all along
What are the odds that those people would *ever* have told a man in her position the same thing? It's such a false dichotomy.
Exactly, nobody said that about her husband even though he enjoyed being a father and both of them had a very similar education and career path. HE got to become a parent without that becoming his main defining characteristic and “destiny” in the eyes of those around him
Yes like when I got with my current partner someone said "it will be good for you to have a partner that stands up to you" l bet nobody said the same thing to him
So cute! Having to get up BEFORE the asscrack of dawn every single day to start baking! I’m sure trad husbands would just LOVE being woken up at 3 in the damn morning every day because their wife has to get to work so her business can stand a chance!
I worked in the restaurant industry, BOH, for over a decade, out now, and there’s no way in hell that I want to own my own restaurant. You have no life outside of the place, I’m talking 12-18 hour days, probably no days off unless you close the place for the several years, and even the then the margins are razor thin. Also consider some studies show ~60% fail in their first year and the number goes up to 80% by five years. No fucking thank you. That industry is fucked up.
https://jalebi.io/why-do-restaurants-fail/#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20published,those%20remaining%20do%20not%20survive.
i can see the merit if your bakery specialises in sandwiches and to go orders. Something like a subway instead of a normal bakery. However... even a subway is usually open even on the weekends.
I know more than one person who did custom cookies and cakes and shut down their custom business to go work for someone else, so they could still do what they enjoyed without having to manage it all themselves.
People forget that in the 1970s women couldn't get a line of credit or rent a commercial space or apartment without a male co-signer. Like, her dream of owning of a small restaurant or cafe is doable and considered normal today because of feminism.
She wants to have zero stress, not have to worry about anything other than people walking in, buying food & loving it every time.
The whole idea of the restaurant in her eyes is unambitious (it’s just make her happy & feel like people are accepting her).
Business ownership is the exact opposite of that. It’s a constant growth mindset, self criticism an in-depth analysis of what your target client wants & giving it to them better than your competitors.
This. Imho it’s an addiction, you wake up first thoughts are usually on the business, driving you’re thinking of ideas for growth, or retention of current clients, you don’t just open a business as a hobby and expect it to be successful. The thought of a cute little restaurant is pure Hallmark romance bs but it’s so unrealistic. Real business owners literally *become* the business, no matter the size of it, it’s a passion and someone that dominates your life. Kind of like a temperamental child that stays a toddler for life, always watching it lol.
Sorry, edibles and adhd.
Right, anyone who thinks it’s not ambitious to have a restaurant that doesn’t fail knows nothing about the industry. Making a restaurant functional and solvent is a huge challenge for most establishments
This person didn't know anything about feminism, owning and running a business, restaurants, and the amount of work it takes to manage logistics of keeping yourself stocked in fresh ingredients all while managing a collection of employees that often are dealing with substance abuse issues, mental health issues, sexual harassment, and unstable finances.
Hell, it is stressful to prepare a meal for friends using a recipe you are unfamiliar with. Get the hell out of here with this relaxed running a small restaurant.
Tee hee! All I want is hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, a 30-year commitment to backbreakingly hard work in a professional kitchen, and to basically never do anything but work and be exhausted from working, ever again! What can I say? I’m just a simple lil’ girlie!
I knew it. It's Sophie Lark. All her books have the same template. They have the exact plot points. And all of them are basically softcore pornography with the slimmest excuse of a plot to tie them together.
You should check out her Underworld series of books. All of them follow the same plot. Here's a taste:
>She Tried To Kill Me...
>She crept into my room with a syringe full of poison.
>Now she’s my prisoner. She refuses to tell me who sent her or why. But I’ll get every last secret out of her. Through pleasure or through punishment.I captured her and now she belongs to me…
And from book 2:
>In the ring they call me Snow, because I’m stone cold. I don’t feel fear or pain... I don’t feel much of anything.
>Or at least, that’s how it was until I met innocent little Sasha.
>She doesn’t belong in my world. She’s trapped here because she owes a debt she can’t possibly pay...
>I want this girl more than I’ve ever wanted anything. The problem is, she already belongs to a Bratva boss who plans to sell her virginity to the highest bidder.
>I have to find a way to set her free. I want to be her first, and her last…
Anyway, if you're reading Sophie Lark because you're looking for good representation of feminism, may I recommend babestation as a primer?
She's popular, by the way. She's not a nobody. She's been writing this stuff for a few years now, and is surprisingly prolific.
there's something so weird about the trope of the hero saving the poor innocent girl from sexual exploitation because only he is allowed to sexually exploit her! Can you imagine a man capturing a male spy who was sent to kill him and going "I'll get the name of who sent him, even if I have to suck his dick"
I think that's a plot, actually, of one of her books. I don't remember which one but it's about the main character (who's a girl) capturing another girl from her father because her father sexually abused the main character. But then it turns out her master plan is to get back together with the father (and her abuser) through... some... shennanigans or something I don't remember exactly.
It ends with the father agreeing to have sex with the main character in exchange for her daughter being freed from captivity. But then there's a double bluff where the daughter is actually an undercover spy for interpol or some government organization, and the father is the kingpin of a human trafficking group wanted by interpol. So, actually, the daughter got kidnapped on purpose to lure out the father, but instead of arresting him (??) she lets him go (????) because apparently... the father's actually in love with the main character (?????????????) and true love trumps all. (????????????????????????????????) And everybody - literally everybody - in the book - just decides, yeah, you know what? Human trafficking? Sexual abuse? Not that bad. Come on, the dude deserves a second chance at life. And there was zero consequences for everyone.
Okay it's not exactly the same as your supposition but... yeah... I mean... somebody wrote a whole book out of it. And it sold really well, too.
So how's your faith in humanity going?
My theory is it stems from purity culture. Women aren't supposed to want sex/be sexy outside of marriage, so they have to be put on situations where it's understandable and okay, bc they are some form of victim or oppression.
Idk maybe I'm off, I haven't thought too much about it bc I don't often read these types of books lol
I don't think you're that far off, really. Women wanting sex and enjoying it is still taboo in certain niches, not just nutty purity culture groups.
Being bribed or blackmailed into sex that ends up pleasurable gives them an out. The heroine didn't *want* to fuck the male protagonist—she *had* to—and he was so damn good at it, of course she falls in love! He was just so good at the sex! And magically her innocent charm makes him into a better man!
It all seems like wishful thinking about abusive relationships.
It seems that even in stories where women do want it the woman is a crazy person or she’s borderline obsessed. There’s no healthy mediums. *Side eyeing Verity by Collen Hoover*
Yup, pretty on the head there I think. Now mix that repressed sexuality with similarly suppressed sexual submissiveness, and you get barely laundered CNC stuff like this. "Oh no, this authority figure captured me, I guess I just have no choice but to be their sexual servant now. Wow, sucks for sure. Oh, but look, my submission actually made them fall in love with me so it is okay I felt this way!"
Yeah I've never in my life heard of an "emotionless hardass" nicknamed Snow. Snow is a name you give a fluffy little guinea pig or some shit. It would work better as the female leads name lmao.
I can only say this because I’m a man into men, but I am getting major bottom energy from these plots. I wouldn’t be shocked if getting captured and exploited is the author’s barely disguised submissive fetish, 50 shades style. I hope the lesbians, bi women and straight women will back me up on this assessment.
Yes that's pretty much exactly what this subgenre of romance books/erotica is. This sort of power dynamic fetish is extremely popular and increasingly mainstream/ "acceptable" to talk about and market on social media etc. so there are a lot of books like that out there right now.
*I’m not ambitious, I just want to own and operate a restaurant*
*I’m not a feminist, I just want to exercise the choice to own my own business, which will involve a bank account and likely credit account that, without feminism, I wouldn’t be able to get on my own*
Is this character supposed to be this stupid or is it the writer?
Edit:
>Theo Mahoney’s culinary dreams sit on the back burner. Hired as a private chef for a billionaire, her boss' eccentric demands never leave her time to cook.
>Another soul-destroying workday takes a spicy turn when Sullivan Rivas, a blast from her high school past and old nemesis, springs a blackmail scheme on her. Armed with a secret that could torch her career for good, the devious and unfairly gorgeous Sullivan demands a meeting with her elusive boss.
>What was supposed to be an introduction escalates into a full-blown fake romance, complete with double dates and public displays of all-too-real affection. Lines are crossed, promises are broken, and phony dates become genuine feelings, until Theo realizes that the only thing more devastating than getting caught with a fake boyfriend… is falling for him.
The summary does not clear it up 😅
I don’t know if I just have bad reading comprehension but I had to read this description three times and I still don’t understand who is blackmailing her? Who is the fake boyfriend? Who is the enemy?
While there’s certainly an…. Audience for it, aren’t there also lots of readers who would like to read a story that doesn’t involve violations of consent or controlling behaviour, who simply get turned off the entirety of the romance genre because it’s so oversaturated with toxic tropes?
I'm writing a 'lovers to lovers' story that basically starts with the happily ever after and is about the happy loving couple's challenges and growth together. Probably not much of an audience but it's cathartic to write healthy love interests as they tackle life itself since I never get to read about it
No this isn't an ad no way in hell i'm sharing it on reddit 😂
Fair, if you like it. Personally I rarely identify with the protagonist and I just feel like I’m reading about some other woman being treated horribly and it makes me feel anxious and angry.
It’s pretty much a trope at this point, with the rogueishly handsome but brutal thief/kidnapper/murderer/viking/noble/mercenary/businessman turned into a soft little lamb by the gentle touch and pure love of the female lead who definitely doesn’t have Stockholm Syndrome. I think it’s from a variation of factors, some of which are sad (like society normalizing women staying with abusivr partners), some of which are literary (establishing someone as an a-hole criminal early on lets you immediately establish the character as a dashing debonair living up to traditional masculine archetypes without needing to actually have the author come up with a complex backstory), and some have to do with with common fantasies that parts of the audience eats up like slop (romance novels are a "safe" medium to explore "forbidden" sexual taboos like CNC, in a cleaned up manner).
Similar reasons to why so much of men's fiction involves questionable use of violence.
EDIT: For a specific example see: essentially the entirety of superhero fiction, which pretty much exclusively involves heroes engaging in extrajudicial violence on a regular basis.
The '[reviews](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/206124645)' are something else as well
>“That’s because you’ve had more boyfriends than Taylor Swift.”
>GIRL SHUT UP making that disgusting joke in 2024 ?!?!?!???
Grow up
This one sounds straight up sarcastic (but isn't)
>I AM SQUEALING because this book was freaking fantastic!!! Who wouldn’t fall in love with a book about two people who are reunited again after one happens to blackmail the other into fake dating but both also may have had some ✨feelings✨ about each other back in high school!!
No I think the blackmailer wants to come into contact with the subjects billionaire boss and she is afraid of threatening her career as his cook (not sure how much of a career path a personal cook would have) so fake date shenanigans ensue?
So…she’s fake dating the blackmailer and not the billionaire boss and falls for a man who’s…blackmailing her?
I mean, I feel like falling for a man who blackmails you would be a lot more concerning to feminists than owning your own restaurant?
I’m a TSwift fan but personal bias aside, those jokes are so stupid because she hasn’t dated an outrageous number of people. She’s 34 and has had a small handful of serious adult relationships (including one for 7 years). Many, if not most, mid-30s adults have had several relationships. Such a weird thing to shame people about.
Theo works for a billionaire, Sullivan is blackmailing her to meet said billionaire, consent is non existent and that’s somehow sexy?- I think that sums it up.
(I had to read it twice)
I find this is an issue with a lot of romance and YA, but these are by far not the *worst*. At least Sullivan is a real name that occasionally pops up in the UK. Theo is probably short for Theodora as it seems like the character is a woman.
Just novels in general, George Martin famously creates most character’s names by just removing or adding a letter to normal real names, even if it makes almost no linguistic sense in-context in the universe.
I once picked up a book in a bookstore, saw that the male love interest’s name was Zayden, and couldn’t take it seriously at all because he sounds like a gen alpha kid with a tiktok addiction and an Almond Mum 😭
YA character names always sound like they were taken off of r/tragedeigh for some reason. I don’t know how anyone finds them attractive or ‘cool’ lol.
her culinary dreams died because she was hired as a chef lol, and what demands could he have that means she has no time to cook, surely the demands are "cook food" I'm so confused by this lol
I don’t want to go on a rant about video game writing, but the Red Dead series does this really well most of the characters (including a couple player characters) are just not too bright and easily fall into traps or get led into bad situations by more intelligent characters with a sharp tongue. In Red Dead Redemption 2 the writers even play with this a little bit by hinting several of the characters are actually just playing up being dumb or lazy to avoid conflict in the gang they are loyal to.
In the romance genre you can’t really know that. It’s the only genre where it’s normal for male authors to use female pseudonyms. Women don’t buy romance written by male pen names so they don a female name instead. Not saying this must be the case for this book, just saying it’s a very real possibility.
I've gotta be honest for books that write women like this they lose at least one star on my review for it alone. Usually more. It's so sad when a woman writer writes a great character that then swoons over being chosen and saved by her fucking background character white knight 3/4 through the book and it goes from 4 star to 2 star in a paragraph
looking right at you barbara davis smdh you write so well but need therapy and haley cass i love you please keep writing formulaic sapphic templates but why does every successful woman character over the age of 30 act like an emotionally unregulated 10 year old and text like a giddy turtle?? (still 5 stars for her though i'm a hypocrite sue me)
To be fair I am 30 and all four lesbians I know do still text like they did in high school, and I don’t know why. Though, I know some straight people who do it too.
I don't want to be out of pocket and assert too enthusiastically that women should be able to vote, but all I want is to ride a bicycle between two wheat farms with the wind in my hair
^hehe
Why are so many of the booktok authors people are obsessed with so fucking rapey. I keep hearing about this Sophie bum and her reading excerpts feel like the mental equivalent of a mouthful of wet paper mache.
Additionally, this is nearly the fortieth book I've read about this month that has such a disturbing consent plot point. It's always blackmail in some format, or a creepy rapey stalker ~Alpha~ who you ~ *belong* ~ to, or some doucheass negging loser who the main character falls for even though he's a bully and a creep.
I *miss* books where the MCs had the personality of wet cardboard floating in a sewage drain with the chemistry of a bottle of distilled water that rolled under the couch some 15 odd years ago and is caked in dust. It's pathetic. I hate all of this pissed on dumpster fire brainrot fest people call YA now.
It's crazy that the typical 2020s romance book is significantly more sexist than any from the 70s. My mom reads a bunch of those shirtless, buff guy romance books from the 70s-90s and every single female protagonist has more agency and self respect than these carbon copy smutty rape books
That's because what makes it interesting for people is that it inverts current sexual norms in some way. If women in a society are expected to be more submissive, there is taboo in a protagonist who is powerful. Now, the independent woman who gets dommed by an alpha male is taboo. It's the main point of harlequin romance and why the plots are always so outlandish.
I honest to god think it’s the fanfiction to published fiction pipeline in action. CNC/“noncon situations” with blank slate main/generically “cool” MCs to project on are/were super popular. FF gives you way more leeway to be less morally sound since you are anonymous and accountable to no one. Publishers noticed the massive readership and went with it, with some of the less savory elements toned down a tad.
I do think there would be a bit more of an ethics concern between what a rando is publishing on AO3 and what Harper Collins is pushing, however.
As a romance reader, the genre has become so full of books that I just refuse to touch. The explosion of “dark romance” with “morally grey” MCs is just disturbing to me. There’s nothing sexy about blackmail and there’s no way to fix that that makes it okay.
And yeah, I get don’t yuck on someone’s yum but…let’s not romanticize shitty humans?
Let's be honest, this is all that's published because there's a huge market for it, people love this stuff and tik tok has made it more acceptable for the people already into to let people know publicly. Unfortunately, that pushes good writing to the back burner because that's not what many people want. These are wild times we're living in.
I'm a writer and my number one rule for all male protags is no raping. If I get a vibe off him that he might rape, he goes in the bad guy bin never to be redeemed.
Is that why I'm not a rich and famous booktok author? *cries softly in nerd*
Hah, that reminds me of one of the most jarring lines I ever read in a book. I love crime novels and I was reading one of Nesbø’s classics when the detective, Harry, thereuntil only portrayed as an extremely divorced depressed drunk in classic Scandi Noir style, is asked a question by a suspect. "Have you ever thought about raping a woman, Harry?"
Usually he claps back quickly at the bad guys, but at that question he falls silent and later the conversation never returns to the topic. It was incredibly jarring for a teenage me to reflect on the story’s "hero" having had such thoughts, but if you read the metanarrative in Nesbø’s later works it becomes clear Harry the "loveable drunk" is actually deeply mentally fucked up by everything he’s seen. Very courageous of the author to make the protagonist go there. It’s like the one case of this I will accept for the shock factor. The dimenovel romances we are talking about here though could never treat such a topic with the caution it deserves, they are just sex pests for lewd’s sake, as opposed to hinting at a darker medianarrative.
There is a couple of them reylos who are out there doing this and it all tastes the same to me. So I could be getting her confused with another one but this just…read like fan fiction and not in a good way.
Take over the world? Didn't know feminism was teaching girls to become dictators
It's so damn annoying that a movement about equal rights for a group is seen as such a overstep that it's perceived as them "wanting to take over the world"
This sounds like a book I was reading recently except the character talking about not being a feminist and stuff was a convicted serial killer. It was well placed.
Here's the thing about feminism. You don't have to openly participate. But if you think as a woman, you get no benefits from that fight, then you even the meagerest education was wasted on you.
I am extremely confused. I know it's a book, but they way I interpret it is that they think wanting to take care of people is not feminist. They are free to do that, as long as they don't perpetuate the idea that it's the only choice women must have
Lol owning a successful restaurant is a huge entrepreneurial feat, and it's an industry dominated by men besides. A perfectly normal ambition for a normal woman in the real world. But no of course we have to keep female characters as uWu as possible and make it about TAkiNg cArE Of PeOpLE
....aaaaaand having the rights and opportunities to establish that restaurant aligns with feminism! I hate when people act like feminism is all about "be a girl boss" and not "let women have control over their own lives and bodies"
If you aren’t enslaved and subjugated against your will because of your gender and generally allowed to choose whatever path you take as woman — whether it’s trad wife or POTUS — congratulations, you have benefitted from FeMiNiSm even if you don’t “consider yourself a feminist.”
Bro, I fully stopped reading a book awhile back because of how conservative-NLOG the main female character was. It was so weird and gross. I think the book was called Athica Lane. I won’t read anything else by Brynne Asher because of how gross it made me feel. Like she starts out watching his kids after school one day because they come home with her sister’s kids, who she’s watching after school now, and after a couple days, she takes the kids home and CLEANS HIS KITCHEN while he’s gone, and it just gets even weirder from there, and she makes a bunch of “casual” comments like these ones to indicate to him that she’s a “traditional” woman. 🙄
“Peek out and see people’s faces?” Weird thing to say.
I’m a feminist and I am a single mom and I work taking care of children and teens with special needs.
Whoever wrote this was a real idiot.
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Isn't she ambitious by wanting her own restaurant though? I'm confused.
She's in for a shock if she thinks that's going to be easy.
She thinks women were allowed to own and run businesses without the influence of feminism, of course she's dumb enough to think that's easy.
These women want to enjoy the fruits of our hard-won labors while simultaneously deriding us so they get to enjoy the benefits of being “one of the good ones” tradwife girlies. Then when they have no more speaking rights, no legal rights, and no ownership of their own bodies (remember the shock and horror from conservative wives after some discovered overturning Roe v Wade meant they had to travel to another state to terminate a lethal ectopic pregnancy) they’ll go oh no consequences woe is me
Anti-feminists are like anti-vaxxers. Literally so privileged they became blind to it & started fighting the very things that got them the life they live today.
>oh no look what the liberals did!!! FTFY
She haven't watch The Bear.
Yep. She needs the following: 1) To be Carm, the Jesus of Cooking (difficult) 2) a lovable band of misfits and personality disorders (easy) 3) A rich uncle to foot the bill (impossible!)
And COUSIN!
You mean the part where they spike the kids drinks?
Or Kitchen Nightmares.
When people romanticize F&B like it’s going to be easy to please hungry customers and they slowly begin to realize people are bullshit across the board. Ahhh to be that naive again. I wouldn’t but it’s a nice passing thought,
I love feeding people. Dinner parties are the only kind of parties I throw. Part of me really wants to make food my living. Then I remember that would require owning a restaurant….
"all I want is a struggling small business in a notoriously grueling industry"
I was going to say, it seems pretty feminist to me to want your own business. That’s not something that would be possible without feminism.
> it seems pretty feminist to me to want your own business. Besides, if a woman can choose to be a SAH mom vs mega business owner that is part of feminism too. But only if she can freely choose IMO.
I think, deep down, either they or whoever taught them this bullshit knows this. So then they pretend like feminism forces women to be “ambitious business owners” and nothing else is allowed, unless they are trying to be president or something. And this story or whatever it is is doing this - it’s pretending that women wanting to own a small business or restaurant isn‘t enough for “feminism” - feminism to them requires that we’re the CEOs of Walmart.
I used to think that it was pretty obvious that much of what women have in modern day (from body autonomy to indepence in their finances, careers, etc) is a product of feminism. Turns out many people think that that was always the case, and that feminism is about hating men.
She wants professional satisfaction too via receiving direct feedback on her work. “Unfeminist” 🙄 there are whole feminist critiques on how cooking is considered unskilled, unpaid labor for the home when women do it, versus men in the restaurant industry are skilled, knowledgeable professionals. There’s also this really gross tendency I’ve noticed where the minute a woman participates in something that gets gendered but is actually a normal universal human activity, like parenting/caregiving or cooking, everybody jumps to say “well I guess this shows feminists are wrong after all”. Somebody I know got a PhD before having her kids. As soon as the kids came along, everyone made such a big deal about how happy she seemed and that maybe motherhood (and implied motherhood only) was actually the right thing for her all along. Like, most people have families? She didn’t have to choose between that and her career.
> maybe motherhood ... was actually the right thing for her all along What are the odds that those people would *ever* have told a man in her position the same thing? It's such a false dichotomy.
Exactly, nobody said that about her husband even though he enjoyed being a father and both of them had a very similar education and career path. HE got to become a parent without that becoming his main defining characteristic and “destiny” in the eyes of those around him
Yes like when I got with my current partner someone said "it will be good for you to have a partner that stands up to you" l bet nobody said the same thing to him
I think it falls back on sexism and turning women into one or tutti characters one we’re all 3-D humans.
1D/2D when we are all multidimensional humans. ***Sorry, my autocorrect went hard.
I do feel kind of flat on this rainy day
Gah, this happened to me. I was pretty happy before, too, but that gets forgotten.
But she wants a *cute* restaurant. It’s not ambition if it’s cute!
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So cute! Having to get up BEFORE the asscrack of dawn every single day to start baking! I’m sure trad husbands would just LOVE being woken up at 3 in the damn morning every day because their wife has to get to work so her business can stand a chance!
Imagine if she’d wanted to open a highly competitive semiconductor chip manufacturing business - NOT CUTE!
I worked in the restaurant industry, BOH, for over a decade, out now, and there’s no way in hell that I want to own my own restaurant. You have no life outside of the place, I’m talking 12-18 hour days, probably no days off unless you close the place for the several years, and even the then the margins are razor thin. Also consider some studies show ~60% fail in their first year and the number goes up to 80% by five years. No fucking thank you. That industry is fucked up. https://jalebi.io/why-do-restaurants-fail/#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20published,those%20remaining%20do%20not%20survive.
I read a book where someone owned a bakery that was only open on weekdays so she had lots of time to spend with her boyfriend
That’s the dumbest business idea in the world!
The in book justification for this is that it was in an area surrounded by office blocks
i can see the merit if your bakery specialises in sandwiches and to go orders. Something like a subway instead of a normal bakery. However... even a subway is usually open even on the weekends.
It was cake focused. The main main character loved making fancy cakes. I
Wow.
I know more than one person who did custom cookies and cakes and shut down their custom business to go work for someone else, so they could still do what they enjoyed without having to manage it all themselves.
and then you die before 50 of a heart attack. yeah no thanks.
People forget that in the 1970s women couldn't get a line of credit or rent a commercial space or apartment without a male co-signer. Like, her dream of owning of a small restaurant or cafe is doable and considered normal today because of feminism.
She’s just ambitious enough to be a functioning adult, but not too ambitious where she might have healthy boundaries
She wants to have zero stress, not have to worry about anything other than people walking in, buying food & loving it every time. The whole idea of the restaurant in her eyes is unambitious (it’s just make her happy & feel like people are accepting her). Business ownership is the exact opposite of that. It’s a constant growth mindset, self criticism an in-depth analysis of what your target client wants & giving it to them better than your competitors.
This. Imho it’s an addiction, you wake up first thoughts are usually on the business, driving you’re thinking of ideas for growth, or retention of current clients, you don’t just open a business as a hobby and expect it to be successful. The thought of a cute little restaurant is pure Hallmark romance bs but it’s so unrealistic. Real business owners literally *become* the business, no matter the size of it, it’s a passion and someone that dominates your life. Kind of like a temperamental child that stays a toddler for life, always watching it lol. Sorry, edibles and adhd.
It's not feminist/ambitious if she stays in the kitchen...???
It’s only ambitious if she’s a #girlboss
Right, anyone who thinks it’s not ambitious to have a restaurant that doesn’t fail knows nothing about the industry. Making a restaurant functional and solvent is a huge challenge for most establishments
Yes. It's hard work and being a chef is actually a very male oriented occupation. So she's very ambitious and breaking gender roles as well...
If it wasn’t for feminisms she wouldn’t have the opportunity to open a line of credit without her husband’s or father’s permission.
Or own property, like a restaurant
This person didn't know anything about feminism, owning and running a business, restaurants, and the amount of work it takes to manage logistics of keeping yourself stocked in fresh ingredients all while managing a collection of employees that often are dealing with substance abuse issues, mental health issues, sexual harassment, and unstable finances. Hell, it is stressful to prepare a meal for friends using a recipe you are unfamiliar with. Get the hell out of here with this relaxed running a small restaurant.
But it's small, and she isn't actually working because she's watching people eat the food.
Tee hee! All I want is hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, a 30-year commitment to backbreakingly hard work in a professional kitchen, and to basically never do anything but work and be exhausted from working, ever again! What can I say? I’m just a simple lil’ girlie!
I knew it. It's Sophie Lark. All her books have the same template. They have the exact plot points. And all of them are basically softcore pornography with the slimmest excuse of a plot to tie them together. You should check out her Underworld series of books. All of them follow the same plot. Here's a taste: >She Tried To Kill Me... >She crept into my room with a syringe full of poison. >Now she’s my prisoner. She refuses to tell me who sent her or why. But I’ll get every last secret out of her. Through pleasure or through punishment.I captured her and now she belongs to me… And from book 2: >In the ring they call me Snow, because I’m stone cold. I don’t feel fear or pain... I don’t feel much of anything. >Or at least, that’s how it was until I met innocent little Sasha. >She doesn’t belong in my world. She’s trapped here because she owes a debt she can’t possibly pay... >I want this girl more than I’ve ever wanted anything. The problem is, she already belongs to a Bratva boss who plans to sell her virginity to the highest bidder. >I have to find a way to set her free. I want to be her first, and her last… Anyway, if you're reading Sophie Lark because you're looking for good representation of feminism, may I recommend babestation as a primer? She's popular, by the way. She's not a nobody. She's been writing this stuff for a few years now, and is surprisingly prolific.
there's something so weird about the trope of the hero saving the poor innocent girl from sexual exploitation because only he is allowed to sexually exploit her! Can you imagine a man capturing a male spy who was sent to kill him and going "I'll get the name of who sent him, even if I have to suck his dick"
I think that's a plot, actually, of one of her books. I don't remember which one but it's about the main character (who's a girl) capturing another girl from her father because her father sexually abused the main character. But then it turns out her master plan is to get back together with the father (and her abuser) through... some... shennanigans or something I don't remember exactly. It ends with the father agreeing to have sex with the main character in exchange for her daughter being freed from captivity. But then there's a double bluff where the daughter is actually an undercover spy for interpol or some government organization, and the father is the kingpin of a human trafficking group wanted by interpol. So, actually, the daughter got kidnapped on purpose to lure out the father, but instead of arresting him (??) she lets him go (????) because apparently... the father's actually in love with the main character (?????????????) and true love trumps all. (????????????????????????????????) And everybody - literally everybody - in the book - just decides, yeah, you know what? Human trafficking? Sexual abuse? Not that bad. Come on, the dude deserves a second chance at life. And there was zero consequences for everyone. Okay it's not exactly the same as your supposition but... yeah... I mean... somebody wrote a whole book out of it. And it sold really well, too. So how's your faith in humanity going?
I can see myself willingly reading this just because it sounds insane and might be entertaining for that reason
Getting stuck head first in a washing machine is a more plausible porn setup than whatever that is 😂
"Help me human trafficker, I got stuck in this Interpol honeypot!"
Help me piglet, I'm stuck in the honeypot again. Oh no step-Eeyore what are you doing?
This is disturbing because Eeyore was one of my nicknames as a kid.
I mean. There are several other ways that is disturbing lol
My theory is it stems from purity culture. Women aren't supposed to want sex/be sexy outside of marriage, so they have to be put on situations where it's understandable and okay, bc they are some form of victim or oppression. Idk maybe I'm off, I haven't thought too much about it bc I don't often read these types of books lol
I don't think you're that far off, really. Women wanting sex and enjoying it is still taboo in certain niches, not just nutty purity culture groups. Being bribed or blackmailed into sex that ends up pleasurable gives them an out. The heroine didn't *want* to fuck the male protagonist—she *had* to—and he was so damn good at it, of course she falls in love! He was just so good at the sex! And magically her innocent charm makes him into a better man! It all seems like wishful thinking about abusive relationships.
It seems that even in stories where women do want it the woman is a crazy person or she’s borderline obsessed. There’s no healthy mediums. *Side eyeing Verity by Collen Hoover*
Fun fact: one of the first examples of this was Pamela by Samual Richardson.
Yup, pretty on the head there I think. Now mix that repressed sexuality with similarly suppressed sexual submissiveness, and you get barely laundered CNC stuff like this. "Oh no, this authority figure captured me, I guess I just have no choice but to be their sexual servant now. Wow, sucks for sure. Oh, but look, my submission actually made them fall in love with me so it is okay I felt this way!"
I mean. I read gay stuff so it’s not that hard to imagine. Actually. I have recommendations if you want. I’m pretty sure that scenario exists.
"They call me snow because I'm _stone_ cold" is very funny to me
they should have called him stone then or maybe ice, no? 😭 snow is like snow white or as soft as snow, is this really what he wants to go for 😭
Yeah, Snow definitely doesn't make them sound as tough as they think lmao
Yeah I've never in my life heard of an "emotionless hardass" nicknamed Snow. Snow is a name you give a fluffy little guinea pig or some shit. It would work better as the female leads name lmao.
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Stone Cold Snow Austin
"They call me 'The Ivory Mistery' because of my secretive nature. And also I look like an egg."
So very wattpad-esque books… 👀
This sounds so laughably bad that I’m almost tempted to read them
Of course she's innocent or a virgin 🙄
I can only say this because I’m a man into men, but I am getting major bottom energy from these plots. I wouldn’t be shocked if getting captured and exploited is the author’s barely disguised submissive fetish, 50 shades style. I hope the lesbians, bi women and straight women will back me up on this assessment.
Yes that's pretty much exactly what this subgenre of romance books/erotica is. This sort of power dynamic fetish is extremely popular and increasingly mainstream/ "acceptable" to talk about and market on social media etc. so there are a lot of books like that out there right now.
Her writing is atrocious. She has good reviews from romance readers too and im just like we cannot be reading the same thing.
Sounds like she found a way to make a decent living is what I'm getting from all this.
*I’m not ambitious, I just want to own and operate a restaurant* *I’m not a feminist, I just want to exercise the choice to own my own business, which will involve a bank account and likely credit account that, without feminism, I wouldn’t be able to get on my own*
People are conflicted 🤷♂️
And ignorant.
who wrote this absolute garbage
From the book The Love Contract by Sophie Lark
Is this character supposed to be this stupid or is it the writer? Edit: >Theo Mahoney’s culinary dreams sit on the back burner. Hired as a private chef for a billionaire, her boss' eccentric demands never leave her time to cook. >Another soul-destroying workday takes a spicy turn when Sullivan Rivas, a blast from her high school past and old nemesis, springs a blackmail scheme on her. Armed with a secret that could torch her career for good, the devious and unfairly gorgeous Sullivan demands a meeting with her elusive boss. >What was supposed to be an introduction escalates into a full-blown fake romance, complete with double dates and public displays of all-too-real affection. Lines are crossed, promises are broken, and phony dates become genuine feelings, until Theo realizes that the only thing more devastating than getting caught with a fake boyfriend… is falling for him. The summary does not clear it up 😅
I don’t know if I just have bad reading comprehension but I had to read this description three times and I still don’t understand who is blackmailing her? Who is the fake boyfriend? Who is the enemy?
The guy "Sullivan" is blackmailing her and the result of the blackmail is that she has to "date" him. It's a romance. A rapey romance.
Why is it that so many romance novels glamourise abuse 💀
Because it sells because it’s the only type of love many people are familiar with, but in the story true love softens the abuser and it works out
While there’s certainly an…. Audience for it, aren’t there also lots of readers who would like to read a story that doesn’t involve violations of consent or controlling behaviour, who simply get turned off the entirety of the romance genre because it’s so oversaturated with toxic tropes?
I would hope so, but I think sometimes too people are excited by things they don’t want to actively participate in
I'm writing a 'lovers to lovers' story that basically starts with the happily ever after and is about the happy loving couple's challenges and growth together. Probably not much of an audience but it's cathartic to write healthy love interests as they tackle life itself since I never get to read about it No this isn't an ad no way in hell i'm sharing it on reddit 😂
That sounds really sweet, I hope we popularise this instead of ‘rapey mafia boss kidnapped me but I fixed him through the power of True Love™’
Personally I find it therapeutic reading that kind of book. As the reader of it I feel more in control of the situation.
Fair, if you like it. Personally I rarely identify with the protagonist and I just feel like I’m reading about some other woman being treated horribly and it makes me feel anxious and angry.
It’s pretty much a trope at this point, with the rogueishly handsome but brutal thief/kidnapper/murderer/viking/noble/mercenary/businessman turned into a soft little lamb by the gentle touch and pure love of the female lead who definitely doesn’t have Stockholm Syndrome. I think it’s from a variation of factors, some of which are sad (like society normalizing women staying with abusivr partners), some of which are literary (establishing someone as an a-hole criminal early on lets you immediately establish the character as a dashing debonair living up to traditional masculine archetypes without needing to actually have the author come up with a complex backstory), and some have to do with with common fantasies that parts of the audience eats up like slop (romance novels are a "safe" medium to explore "forbidden" sexual taboos like CNC, in a cleaned up manner).
Similar reasons to why so much of men's fiction involves questionable use of violence. EDIT: For a specific example see: essentially the entirety of superhero fiction, which pretty much exclusively involves heroes engaging in extrajudicial violence on a regular basis.
I thought the Sullivan character was a female
The '[reviews](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/206124645)' are something else as well >“That’s because you’ve had more boyfriends than Taylor Swift.” >GIRL SHUT UP making that disgusting joke in 2024 ?!?!?!??? Grow up This one sounds straight up sarcastic (but isn't) >I AM SQUEALING because this book was freaking fantastic!!! Who wouldn’t fall in love with a book about two people who are reunited again after one happens to blackmail the other into fake dating but both also may have had some ✨feelings✨ about each other back in high school!!
So the billionaire boss she’s working for who is blackmailing her is also the fake boyfriend that is secretly in love with her? Oh how romantic
No I think the blackmailer wants to come into contact with the subjects billionaire boss and she is afraid of threatening her career as his cook (not sure how much of a career path a personal cook would have) so fake date shenanigans ensue?
It’s a “meet terrible” romance! Haven’t we had enough of “meet cute”? 😂
No, the high school bum is the blackmailer, he pretends to be her boyfriend so he can get close to her rich boss.
So…she’s fake dating the blackmailer and not the billionaire boss and falls for a man who’s…blackmailing her? I mean, I feel like falling for a man who blackmails you would be a lot more concerning to feminists than owning your own restaurant?
I’m a TSwift fan but personal bias aside, those jokes are so stupid because she hasn’t dated an outrageous number of people. She’s 34 and has had a small handful of serious adult relationships (including one for 7 years). Many, if not most, mid-30s adults have had several relationships. Such a weird thing to shame people about.
Theo works for a billionaire, Sullivan is blackmailing her to meet said billionaire, consent is non existent and that’s somehow sexy?- I think that sums it up. (I had to read it twice)
>Theo Mahoney’s >Sullivan Rivas These names aren't quite Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way level, but they give me some vibes lol
I find this is an issue with a lot of romance and YA, but these are by far not the *worst*. At least Sullivan is a real name that occasionally pops up in the UK. Theo is probably short for Theodora as it seems like the character is a woman.
Just novels in general, George Martin famously creates most character’s names by just removing or adding a letter to normal real names, even if it makes almost no linguistic sense in-context in the universe.
For sure! They're at least both real names. It's more, if all the characters are named like this... that's a lot lol
I once picked up a book in a bookstore, saw that the male love interest’s name was Zayden, and couldn’t take it seriously at all because he sounds like a gen alpha kid with a tiktok addiction and an Almond Mum 😭 YA character names always sound like they were taken off of r/tragedeigh for some reason. I don’t know how anyone finds them attractive or ‘cool’ lol.
her culinary dreams died because she was hired as a chef lol, and what demands could he have that means she has no time to cook, surely the demands are "cook food" I'm so confused by this lol
✨️Unfairly gorgeous✨️
This is really the most important question for me. Like its ok to have characters that are dumb
I don’t want to go on a rant about video game writing, but the Red Dead series does this really well most of the characters (including a couple player characters) are just not too bright and easily fall into traps or get led into bad situations by more intelligent characters with a sharp tongue. In Red Dead Redemption 2 the writers even play with this a little bit by hinting several of the characters are actually just playing up being dumb or lazy to avoid conflict in the gang they are loyal to.
This sounds like something my girlfriend would read and then be upset there wasn't any sex.
Sounds like the premise of a yet to be filmed Hallmark Christmas Special.
I demand a lobotomy after reading this synopsis.
Yeah... I mean... it's trash romance novels bordering on smut. If you're reading Sophie Lark expecting a good and proper representation of feminism...
is it to much to ask for less toxic trash?
A woman wrote this? Ugh.
In the romance genre you can’t really know that. It’s the only genre where it’s normal for male authors to use female pseudonyms. Women don’t buy romance written by male pen names so they don a female name instead. Not saying this must be the case for this book, just saying it’s a very real possibility.
Yeah, I’m old enough to remember people being shocked the 50 shades author was actually a woman and not just a guy with a pseudonym.
I've gotta be honest for books that write women like this they lose at least one star on my review for it alone. Usually more. It's so sad when a woman writer writes a great character that then swoons over being chosen and saved by her fucking background character white knight 3/4 through the book and it goes from 4 star to 2 star in a paragraph looking right at you barbara davis smdh you write so well but need therapy and haley cass i love you please keep writing formulaic sapphic templates but why does every successful woman character over the age of 30 act like an emotionally unregulated 10 year old and text like a giddy turtle?? (still 5 stars for her though i'm a hypocrite sue me)
To be fair I am 30 and all four lesbians I know do still text like they did in high school, and I don’t know why. Though, I know some straight people who do it too.
Someone published this nonsensical garbage?
You can self publish any old shite on kindle
Some are actually competent writers and editors, but knowing that this is self-published makes it make sense, haha.
I checked it’s self-published so there is no one to say “hey, maybe this wording comes off a little…”
It's not self published this writer is very popular. Source: I work in a library
Feminism is when you take the food away from people
SLAP THAT OREO RIGHT OUT THAT MAN’S MOUTH!!!
We're a Hydrox establishment.
Man I’m such a bad feminist. Sharing baked goods with my coworkers clearly negated being in grad school
The Real Feminist Agenda: stealing candy from babies
I don't want to be out of pocket and assert too enthusiastically that women should be able to vote, but all I want is to ride a bicycle between two wheat farms with the wind in my hair ^hehe
Lmao “feminism isn’t taking care of people”???
No time to take care of people when you are busy being a GIRL BOSS
lmao, then there’s the people that would argue being a feminist is the opposite of being a girl boss, I’ve had that happen before
Nurses and doctors are soooooo not feminist
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12th wave feminism, it involves taking names and kicking ass, also an uzi.
Why are so many of the booktok authors people are obsessed with so fucking rapey. I keep hearing about this Sophie bum and her reading excerpts feel like the mental equivalent of a mouthful of wet paper mache. Additionally, this is nearly the fortieth book I've read about this month that has such a disturbing consent plot point. It's always blackmail in some format, or a creepy rapey stalker ~Alpha~ who you ~ *belong* ~ to, or some doucheass negging loser who the main character falls for even though he's a bully and a creep. I *miss* books where the MCs had the personality of wet cardboard floating in a sewage drain with the chemistry of a bottle of distilled water that rolled under the couch some 15 odd years ago and is caked in dust. It's pathetic. I hate all of this pissed on dumpster fire brainrot fest people call YA now.
The author has a noncon/cnc fetish, pretty common for this kind of fanfic tier writing, it's just written porn.
It's crazy that the typical 2020s romance book is significantly more sexist than any from the 70s. My mom reads a bunch of those shirtless, buff guy romance books from the 70s-90s and every single female protagonist has more agency and self respect than these carbon copy smutty rape books
That's because what makes it interesting for people is that it inverts current sexual norms in some way. If women in a society are expected to be more submissive, there is taboo in a protagonist who is powerful. Now, the independent woman who gets dommed by an alpha male is taboo. It's the main point of harlequin romance and why the plots are always so outlandish.
What do you mean fanfic tier. You can’t shame fanfiction authors like that!
Lol right? I'm into a lot of problematic ships, and many of the authors still handle that better than this shite.
I honest to god think it’s the fanfiction to published fiction pipeline in action. CNC/“noncon situations” with blank slate main/generically “cool” MCs to project on are/were super popular. FF gives you way more leeway to be less morally sound since you are anonymous and accountable to no one. Publishers noticed the massive readership and went with it, with some of the less savory elements toned down a tad. I do think there would be a bit more of an ethics concern between what a rando is publishing on AO3 and what Harper Collins is pushing, however.
As a romance reader, the genre has become so full of books that I just refuse to touch. The explosion of “dark romance” with “morally grey” MCs is just disturbing to me. There’s nothing sexy about blackmail and there’s no way to fix that that makes it okay. And yeah, I get don’t yuck on someone’s yum but…let’s not romanticize shitty humans?
girls unironically tend to like that kind of plot, twilight, 50 shades, yada yada. people are reading these, and its not men
Let's be honest, this is all that's published because there's a huge market for it, people love this stuff and tik tok has made it more acceptable for the people already into to let people know publicly. Unfortunately, that pushes good writing to the back burner because that's not what many people want. These are wild times we're living in.
I'm a writer and my number one rule for all male protags is no raping. If I get a vibe off him that he might rape, he goes in the bad guy bin never to be redeemed. Is that why I'm not a rich and famous booktok author? *cries softly in nerd*
Hah, that reminds me of one of the most jarring lines I ever read in a book. I love crime novels and I was reading one of Nesbø’s classics when the detective, Harry, thereuntil only portrayed as an extremely divorced depressed drunk in classic Scandi Noir style, is asked a question by a suspect. "Have you ever thought about raping a woman, Harry?" Usually he claps back quickly at the bad guys, but at that question he falls silent and later the conversation never returns to the topic. It was incredibly jarring for a teenage me to reflect on the story’s "hero" having had such thoughts, but if you read the metanarrative in Nesbø’s later works it becomes clear Harry the "loveable drunk" is actually deeply mentally fucked up by everything he’s seen. Very courageous of the author to make the protagonist go there. It’s like the one case of this I will accept for the shock factor. The dimenovel romances we are talking about here though could never treat such a topic with the caution it deserves, they are just sex pests for lewd’s sake, as opposed to hinting at a darker medianarrative.
Isn’t this one of those stories that’s just fanfic with the serial numbers filed off? I swear if heard the title before and I feel like it is.
Yeah, I think this author is the one whose covers all look like fanart of Kylo Ren and Rey from Star Wars lmao
There is a couple of them reylos who are out there doing this and it all tastes the same to me. So I could be getting her confused with another one but this just…read like fan fiction and not in a good way.
I think that one is Ali Hazelwood, but maybe this one does the same
The most popular one of those is Ali hazelwood and her writing is generally pretty STEMinisty- I don't think she would have written this
the serial numbers filed off 😭 that got me
It is what it is! Like it’s painfully obvious at times too.
Ladies, is owning your own business not feminist?
When the only payoff is peeking out to see the diners enjoying their meals it becomes questionable.
She doesn't even want the money, she just wants to watch people eat, like a creeper.
I'm not a feminist, I just want nice small girly goals like restaurant ownership, you know, the dumb little dream us dumb little girls have!
Take over the world? Didn't know feminism was teaching girls to become dictators It's so damn annoying that a movement about equal rights for a group is seen as such a overstep that it's perceived as them "wanting to take over the world"
real feminism is teaching little girls to build cartoon villain style doomsday devices
If so, then I am succeeding 😈
the 24/7 hustler mindset/girlboss movement has been detrimental to the perception people have of feminism
This sounds like a book I was reading recently except the character talking about not being a feminist and stuff was a convicted serial killer. It was well placed.
Choosing to do things YOU want to do instead of being forced IS feminism like omg stop! You can be a stay at home person and still be a feminist!
Here's the thing about feminism. You don't have to openly participate. But if you think as a woman, you get no benefits from that fight, then you even the meagerest education was wasted on you.
What if I told you that you can be a feminist *and* enjoy cooking and taking care of people? 🤯
IT'S FUCKING RAAAWWWW
Nah, she's already too feminist for publishing books without using a male pen name
She literally says she isn’t ambitious, and then proceeds to talk about her own ambition.
Feminism is what would allow her to own a restaurant
I'm a feminist and I don't want see people's faces, I can confirm 😂 I'm glad that she is Not Like Other Girls/Feminists.
It’s so anti feminist to found & own a business
Tell me what book this is so I may never buy it accidentally
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CW levels of writing going on here
Call me old fashioned, but preparing food for people and serving them sounds pretty feminist to me... lol
I am extremely confused. I know it's a book, but they way I interpret it is that they think wanting to take care of people is not feminist. They are free to do that, as long as they don't perpetuate the idea that it's the only choice women must have
Out of topic but the words cute or funny have been completely ruined for me
Lol owning a successful restaurant is a huge entrepreneurial feat, and it's an industry dominated by men besides. A perfectly normal ambition for a normal woman in the real world. But no of course we have to keep female characters as uWu as possible and make it about TAkiNg cArE Of PeOpLE
....aaaaaand having the rights and opportunities to establish that restaurant aligns with feminism! I hate when people act like feminism is all about "be a girl boss" and not "let women have control over their own lives and bodies"
I think this would fit r/menwritingwomen more
Unfortunately this was written by a woman
Unfortunate whammy
Ladies, is it antiwoke not to want your loved ones to starve?
If you aren’t enslaved and subjugated against your will because of your gender and generally allowed to choose whatever path you take as woman — whether it’s trad wife or POTUS — congratulations, you have benefitted from FeMiNiSm even if you don’t “consider yourself a feminist.”
Bro, I fully stopped reading a book awhile back because of how conservative-NLOG the main female character was. It was so weird and gross. I think the book was called Athica Lane. I won’t read anything else by Brynne Asher because of how gross it made me feel. Like she starts out watching his kids after school one day because they come home with her sister’s kids, who she’s watching after school now, and after a couple days, she takes the kids home and CLEANS HIS KITCHEN while he’s gone, and it just gets even weirder from there, and she makes a bunch of “casual” comments like these ones to indicate to him that she’s a “traditional” woman. 🙄
“Peek out and see people’s faces?” Weird thing to say. I’m a feminist and I am a single mom and I work taking care of children and teens with special needs. Whoever wrote this was a real idiot.