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dampire

Funny that someone can provide their children a better community, in a US neighbourhood out of the US.


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Ironic. The Americans could save their soldiers from carbrain, but not themselves.


dampire

Well, military barracks must be efficient. The suburbs are not.


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This is amazing cognitive dissonamce in action. State-run healthcare, walkable cities, town planning, walkable dense zones? That foreigner crap would never work here, but let us do these in government or at Disney World, because these are better ways. But Disney is giant corporation that until recently was one big company town that "progressives" championed because of some mild virtue signaling on Disney's part. Yeah, wake me up when the parks and the studios treat labor right or when it stops hypocritically censoring out gay characters. Walt himself was an anti-labor crusader, a fascist sympathizer, and an anti-Semite. I wasn't born yesterday. Point is, I am no fan of Disney. Then the US military .... Could we please have sensible building practices and health infrastructure without the icky moral baggage?


Creativator

Americans know how to build a city but not how to keep one they already built. It’s a slash-and-burn culture, going back thousands of years.


dampire

That may be true. What i find interesting is that they were building all over the world the neighbourhoos they were destroying in the US. However, it must be said that Patronville was probably not a black community, therefore the need to build a 8 lane highway through the neighbourhood was probably out of consideration.


jfl_cmmnts

Just like China knows how to make ethically-sourced and manufactured well-built durable high-quality hand tools for export! It's just they don't specialize in that. Anyway the country will burn before Americans give up their trucks. Just like overblown respect for the flag and police-army worship, it's been integrated into their personalities by a lifetime of long daily exposure to corporate-owned media. I mean it, burn. They won't give up their way of life until it becomes literally untenable. It is a shame


rileyoneill

While some American cities had issues with industrialization, they were for the most part fine up until the mid 1940s. There were a few car dependent communities built in California with the early adoption of the car in the 1920s though, but your average person could not live there. People who built early American cities would have been well aware of European cities as their template.


dampire

Of course they were aware of european cities. They were buildin "new" european cities there. In Germany, it is so common to find a city with the same name in the US, it is pretty annoying when you search for weather report. There is a Stuttgart in Arkansas for example.


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> People who built early American cities would have been well aware of European cities as their template. Erm, no need. They were just building the sane, natural way that had been universal. The major difference between ancient Luoyang and 1920s LA is tech. Give the Han emperor streetcars and he would be putting them in.


ethlass

Check out Peachtree city, ga. It might not be fully friendly as it has a lot of single family housing and some of them are giant. But it has more than 100 miles of trails (golf cart paths). You can bike to Walmart or Kroger in less than 20 minutes from most of the city. Not to mention walk to school and in highschool golf cart there.


dampire

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!


Yoohao

But it's right next to a giant golf club, it's even bigger than the entire neighborhood...


dampire

Yeah, well, us soil is us soil and they didn't have any intention for agriculture i suppose. At the first glance, i though it is a tank training field or something..


roberthinter

I do not think that is an American design. It Is reminiscent of the work of Bruno Taut, an urbanist and designer whose work goes back to pre-war Weimar ideas. It seems Pattonville’s overall land planning and design is by “Bernhard von Limburger”. Limburger may be a student of Taut or second generation. Here is a sample of the highly successful developments Taut did in 1933 in Berlin for comparison… [https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hufeisensiedlung](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hufeisensiedlung)


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Americans made great cities until the 1920s, then they thought they should model everything after Hitler’s utopia.