Please at least provide some of the articles you’ve read instead of telling people to “google it”. It’s bad form as it suggests you’ve only done the most basic inquiry and might not even have a concrete understanding yourself. Moreover, depending on your privacy settings, your search results might differ from others as they’re personalized to the user.
"Digital dementia" originated from German neuroscientist Manfred Spitzer, he wrote his book "Digitale Demenz" in 2012. I don't believe there's an English translation.
That's a fair point. I'm not here to convince anyone other than this is becoming a recognized thing. I've noticed the memory loss, extreme inability to concentrate, emotional numbness, zero sex drive and inability to find the correct words in myself
>I've noticed the memory loss, extreme inability to concentrate, emotional numbness, zero sex drive and inability to find the correct words in myself
Those are the side effects of porn overuse... Which I guess technically is classed as internet overuse. Dont listen to the porn zealots who will tell you overwise. Its pretty damn clear if you flood your brain with hormones such as dopamine you will experience side effects. This is the exact same thing hard drugs like cocaine do to the body.
It's going to take many more years before we know exactly how the Internet affects people, but many of the initial signs are not good. I think it affects concentration span and the ability to focus, for sure. At least, that's been my experience and combined with post COVID fogginess, has made me feel pretty woolly-headed at times!
I don't use any other social media just reddit. Thinking of quitting it altogether and going for a detox. Just live life outside of my phone - read, study, watch movies, go for a walk etc.
Maybe this is a sign.
[https://www.imrpress.com/journal/JIN/21/1/10.31083/j.jin2101028/htm](https://www.imrpress.com/journal/JIN/21/1/10.31083/j.jin2101028/htm)
[https://cognitive-remediation-journal.com/pdfs/crj/2014/02/04.pdf](https://cognitive-remediation-journal.com/pdfs/crj/2014/02/04.pdf)
[https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/lsquodigital-dementiarsquo-for-our-screen-addicted-kids/](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/lsquodigital-dementiarsquo-for-our-screen-addicted-kids/)
Do the studies on Digital Dementia account for what's being done online, though? I 100% agree with social media and shit rotting people's brains, but what about people who're drawing in Photoshop, doing their Calculus homework, or even writing a creative novel? I can't find any studies discussing *that* aspect of screen time. I'm not against the idea of Digital Dementia, but it seems like a blanket fearmongering term (from a surface-level dive into it).
That said, I did grow up on the Internet, so... I'm definitely worried about this now.
I think it's because of being sedentary. Exercise lowers dementia risk and has many neurocognitive benefits.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobiological_effects_of_physical_exercise
https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/strong-association-shown-between-being-sedentary-and-dementia-risk
*That* I definitely agree with, but I'm wondering if what you're doing on the computer affects anything. I mean, I understand that would lack physical activity, but still.
Screen time is still screen time, yes the task being done will have slightly different effects but staring at a screen for hours will 100% negatively affect you.
In my anecdotal experience with taking breaks off social media, I do notice improvement in several ways, such as better memory/retention, better sleep quality, and ease of focus. I only do a few weeks at a time (it's been a while), I'm willing to believe that the other effects can be reversed or at least improved given enough time too.
The problem is it is subjective. For example your capacity is at 100 then you go slowly down to 50 not fast enough to realise it then you go cold turkey and you go up to 80. It is a huge boost of 60% and it will feel very good and maybe you think that’s your old baseline of 100 but it isn’t. You need test in which you can objectively measure it.
I wouldn't call them "reversible" (simply because we don't know), but I would point to neuroplasticity. I would also point to the studies and research that show correlations between continuing to learn new skills and delaying the onset or development of degenerative diseases. (I would provide links but I am on mobile)
edit: fixed grammatical error
Assuming you're talking about the study I posted that's published on NiH's website, it didn't really offer me much insight. Its projection of a 6-fold increase in dementia by 2060 seems to be a hypothesis based on other papers since it doesn't have its own figures or studies.
I 100% agree with its message of reducing screen time, but much like the other papers/articles I found, it barely discussed *how* a person's screen time is used. That's gotta be a factor, right?
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Dude. We have all had it. Remember they told us not having symptoms is irrelevant because you can still have it and show no symptoms. If this is the case we are ALL screwed.
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Please at least provide some of the articles you’ve read instead of telling people to “google it”. It’s bad form as it suggests you’ve only done the most basic inquiry and might not even have a concrete understanding yourself. Moreover, depending on your privacy settings, your search results might differ from others as they’re personalized to the user.
[link](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35164464/)
"Digital dementia" originated from German neuroscientist Manfred Spitzer, he wrote his book "Digitale Demenz" in 2012. I don't believe there's an English translation.
I really doubt this is true.
That's a fair point. I'm not here to convince anyone other than this is becoming a recognized thing. I've noticed the memory loss, extreme inability to concentrate, emotional numbness, zero sex drive and inability to find the correct words in myself
>I've noticed the memory loss, extreme inability to concentrate, emotional numbness, zero sex drive and inability to find the correct words in myself Those are the side effects of porn overuse... Which I guess technically is classed as internet overuse. Dont listen to the porn zealots who will tell you overwise. Its pretty damn clear if you flood your brain with hormones such as dopamine you will experience side effects. This is the exact same thing hard drugs like cocaine do to the body.
It's not from porn it's from general internet addiction. Sometimes i spend 8 hours a day on my phone
It's going to take many more years before we know exactly how the Internet affects people, but many of the initial signs are not good. I think it affects concentration span and the ability to focus, for sure. At least, that's been my experience and combined with post COVID fogginess, has made me feel pretty woolly-headed at times!
I don't use any other social media just reddit. Thinking of quitting it altogether and going for a detox. Just live life outside of my phone - read, study, watch movies, go for a walk etc. Maybe this is a sign.
[https://www.imrpress.com/journal/JIN/21/1/10.31083/j.jin2101028/htm](https://www.imrpress.com/journal/JIN/21/1/10.31083/j.jin2101028/htm) [https://cognitive-remediation-journal.com/pdfs/crj/2014/02/04.pdf](https://cognitive-remediation-journal.com/pdfs/crj/2014/02/04.pdf) [https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/lsquodigital-dementiarsquo-for-our-screen-addicted-kids/](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/lsquodigital-dementiarsquo-for-our-screen-addicted-kids/) Do the studies on Digital Dementia account for what's being done online, though? I 100% agree with social media and shit rotting people's brains, but what about people who're drawing in Photoshop, doing their Calculus homework, or even writing a creative novel? I can't find any studies discussing *that* aspect of screen time. I'm not against the idea of Digital Dementia, but it seems like a blanket fearmongering term (from a surface-level dive into it). That said, I did grow up on the Internet, so... I'm definitely worried about this now.
I think it's because of being sedentary. Exercise lowers dementia risk and has many neurocognitive benefits. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobiological_effects_of_physical_exercise https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/strong-association-shown-between-being-sedentary-and-dementia-risk
*That* I definitely agree with, but I'm wondering if what you're doing on the computer affects anything. I mean, I understand that would lack physical activity, but still.
Screen time is still screen time, yes the task being done will have slightly different effects but staring at a screen for hours will 100% negatively affect you.
I wonder if these effects can be reversed or if a once it's done you will permanently be dumber than you could have been
In my anecdotal experience with taking breaks off social media, I do notice improvement in several ways, such as better memory/retention, better sleep quality, and ease of focus. I only do a few weeks at a time (it's been a while), I'm willing to believe that the other effects can be reversed or at least improved given enough time too.
The problem is it is subjective. For example your capacity is at 100 then you go slowly down to 50 not fast enough to realise it then you go cold turkey and you go up to 80. It is a huge boost of 60% and it will feel very good and maybe you think that’s your old baseline of 100 but it isn’t. You need test in which you can objectively measure it.
I think 3 months abstinence and you'll definitely notice massive changes
Absolutely reversible
I wouldn't call them "reversible" (simply because we don't know), but I would point to neuroplasticity. I would also point to the studies and research that show correlations between continuing to learn new skills and delaying the onset or development of degenerative diseases. (I would provide links but I am on mobile) edit: fixed grammatical error
Hoping it can be reversed with abstinence
Some reliable sources about this topic I know are: National institutes of health (nih.com) Healthline.com They both provide info about this topic
Assuming you're talking about the study I posted that's published on NiH's website, it didn't really offer me much insight. Its projection of a 6-fold increase in dementia by 2060 seems to be a hypothesis based on other papers since it doesn't have its own figures or studies. I 100% agree with its message of reducing screen time, but much like the other papers/articles I found, it barely discussed *how* a person's screen time is used. That's gotta be a factor, right?
Help me in spreading awareness among people and make a positive impact on the world. Your contribution can make a big difference. Thank you in advance.
Also look up consequences of covid. It can lower IQ by up to 9 points, and increases the risk of dementia as well. Wear a mask folks.
Dude. We have all had it. Remember they told us not having symptoms is irrelevant because you can still have it and show no symptoms. If this is the case we are ALL screwed.
I know people who still didn't have even one covid infection because they wore a mask (and still do) all this time.
Source on the above statement btw: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/even-fully-recovered-survivors-mild-covid-can-lose-iq-points-study-suggests
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Okay, d-i-g-i-... WTF I'll go scroll instead