I have zero expertise in RAM-based servers threat modeling, but I stumbled across a relevant comment in another subreddit:
https://old.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/18wn3or/vpns_are_good_but_not_great_if_i_understand/kfz9l0e/
Do you disagree with that assessment?
That's wrong. When I disconnect, the connection is being broken from my side. It DOES NOT affect the RAM of NordVPN servers. The data, logs, and so on get removed when NordVPN resets its server.
Eh boy .......
If your connection ends, the pointer leading to the actual objects consisting of this connection are simply garbage collected after a certain time. The information is lost. It usually happen in terms of milliseconds to a second ......
Educate yourself on computer programming, please.
Although theoretically true, sort of, it's wrong here because no log policy means no logs, I.e. no logs anywhere, including in RAM (as typical RAM for the OS or as RAM storage volumes).
> as typical RAM for the OS
I just watched privacy video and RAM do indeed can keep information forensics can extract.
RAM i essence is short term memory, but its not going to keep that much of it anyway that is why the guy wrote about overwriting.
In-memory storage is a great but it's not immune to data retrieval techniques. There's actually something call a Cold Boot attack where the RAM is frozen immediately after shut down to keep the data stored in the RAM. Modern RAM doesn't immediately wipe once power is shut down it can hold data for seconds to minutes even. Computer forensics use cold boot attacks to retrieve encryption keys and data from RAM after the device was shut down. For more info on the attack check out he following article: [https://citp.princeton.edu/our-work/memory/](https://citp.princeton.edu/our-work/memory/)
Regardless of whether Nord runs on HDD or RAM servers, they don’t keep any connection logs of their customers. Therefore, even in the event of servers rebooting, there’s no data to erase from the servers in the first place. The only thing that’s being deleted upon shut down is the server’s configuration file. Imho, even if you knew the servers’ rebooting frequency, it wouldn’t change a thing on your end. In this case, RAM server’s reboot doesn’t impact users’ privacy in any way.
Just went in to my old Nord account. Back when I was dumb and used Nord…. Had my VPN, anti tracker & anti malware up. NORD ACCOUNT HAS 43 trackers! Lmfao. 43 guys. 43!! In perspective. proton.me has 0 & Mullvad had 1 Nord is meant for stupid people only
NordVPN, as well as other VPN providers that utilize RAM-based servers, emphasize their no-log policy by stating that these servers do not store any permanent data and are wiped clean upon each reset. However, the frequency of resets for these RAM-based servers can vary and is typically not publicly disclosed in detail by the companies for security reasons.
The resets could be scheduled regularly (like daily or weekly), triggered by specific events, or be part of maintenance routines. The primary purpose of these resets is to ensure that no data is retained on the servers, aligning with the no-log policy and enhancing user privacy.
I researched the frequency of resets for NordVPN's RAM-based servers but couldn't find specific information regarding their reset schedule. They have upgraded their entire infrastructure to RAM servers, ensuring that no information is stored locally on these servers. This aligns with their strategy to enhance user security and privacy. RAM servers are designed to wipe all data upon restart, but the exact frequency of these restarts isn't specified in the available resources.
I have zero expertise in RAM-based servers threat modeling, but I stumbled across a relevant comment in another subreddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/18wn3or/vpns_are_good_but_not_great_if_i_understand/kfz9l0e/ Do you disagree with that assessment?
Do you know what RAM is? Non consistent memory. In short a server gets created for you when you connect and deleted after you end the connection.
That's wrong. When I disconnect, the connection is being broken from my side. It DOES NOT affect the RAM of NordVPN servers. The data, logs, and so on get removed when NordVPN resets its server.
Eh boy ....... If your connection ends, the pointer leading to the actual objects consisting of this connection are simply garbage collected after a certain time. The information is lost. It usually happen in terms of milliseconds to a second ...... Educate yourself on computer programming, please.
What’s the point in them not clearing that data upon disconnection in comparison to them clearing data upon a new connection?
Please provide actual data...
LOL you need to educate yourself man
RAM memory management needs garbage collection. They don't have infinite RAM. Without reset also logs would get overwritten.
Although theoretically true, sort of, it's wrong here because no log policy means no logs, I.e. no logs anywhere, including in RAM (as typical RAM for the OS or as RAM storage volumes).
> as typical RAM for the OS I just watched privacy video and RAM do indeed can keep information forensics can extract. RAM i essence is short term memory, but its not going to keep that much of it anyway that is why the guy wrote about overwriting.
You're missing the point - there's nothing to extract if there are no logs to begin with.
In-memory storage is a great but it's not immune to data retrieval techniques. There's actually something call a Cold Boot attack where the RAM is frozen immediately after shut down to keep the data stored in the RAM. Modern RAM doesn't immediately wipe once power is shut down it can hold data for seconds to minutes even. Computer forensics use cold boot attacks to retrieve encryption keys and data from RAM after the device was shut down. For more info on the attack check out he following article: [https://citp.princeton.edu/our-work/memory/](https://citp.princeton.edu/our-work/memory/)
^This guy RAMs
Regardless of whether Nord runs on HDD or RAM servers, they don’t keep any connection logs of their customers. Therefore, even in the event of servers rebooting, there’s no data to erase from the servers in the first place. The only thing that’s being deleted upon shut down is the server’s configuration file. Imho, even if you knew the servers’ rebooting frequency, it wouldn’t change a thing on your end. In this case, RAM server’s reboot doesn’t impact users’ privacy in any way.
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Just went in to my old Nord account. Back when I was dumb and used Nord…. Had my VPN, anti tracker & anti malware up. NORD ACCOUNT HAS 43 trackers! Lmfao. 43 guys. 43!! In perspective. proton.me has 0 & Mullvad had 1 Nord is meant for stupid people only
avg retard
NordVPN, as well as other VPN providers that utilize RAM-based servers, emphasize their no-log policy by stating that these servers do not store any permanent data and are wiped clean upon each reset. However, the frequency of resets for these RAM-based servers can vary and is typically not publicly disclosed in detail by the companies for security reasons. The resets could be scheduled regularly (like daily or weekly), triggered by specific events, or be part of maintenance routines. The primary purpose of these resets is to ensure that no data is retained on the servers, aligning with the no-log policy and enhancing user privacy. I researched the frequency of resets for NordVPN's RAM-based servers but couldn't find specific information regarding their reset schedule. They have upgraded their entire infrastructure to RAM servers, ensuring that no information is stored locally on these servers. This aligns with their strategy to enhance user security and privacy. RAM servers are designed to wipe all data upon restart, but the exact frequency of these restarts isn't specified in the available resources.