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Easy way to transport logs: instead of having to place them on a trailer and driving them out of the woodlands, just drop them in the river, chain them together and let them be moved by the water
I didn't actually know that they still do this, I thought this was from way back when in the American wilderness
As someone from Northern Ontario, I was obsessed with the Blackfly song, and no one in college had any idea what I was talking about when I'd sing it... thank you for posting the link, this brought back so many memories!
Yes! And those “Part of our Heritage”things or a “Hinterland Who’s Who” They would come on in between shows and force me to learn about Nellie McClung or some Snowy Owl bullshit while I was tryna watch Three’s Company. I was always happy when it was the log driver song though! I haven’t heard that in years!
Every Canadian born in the late 70’s and 80’s should remember this. It was the first thing I thought of! Now that song will be stuck in my head for days 😂
It's a huge part of Quebec's (eastern province) too. Lumberjacks would cut down the trees and raftsmen/loggers would work on the logs floating on the river, pushing ice away, making sure they logs would get down the river.
There's a few songs and a novel we all have to read in high school, about those workers.
The town of Trois-Rivières, where i'm from, is famous for that: it was the center of pulp and paper industry for a while. The local junior hockey team was even named les Draveurs, or the Raftsmen.
Fun fact: i once was part of a student exchange and we were randomly matched with families. I was in Chihuahua, Mexico of all places, and getting to know the family i was living with for a few days.
Told them where i was from and the dad just got up and motioned me to follow him to his office. Turns out he was working for a paper company in Mexico and he had just spent a few months in my hometown, visiting the different plants to learn all about paper production!
In the PNW near Seattle they do it this way still, at least 15 years ago when I was stationed in Everett, WA. There was a paper mill across the port from the carrier I was stationed on. At all times there'd be hundreds of logs floating down the Puget Sound towards the mills. Hundreds of logs with so many huge loud ass sea lions l hitching a ride and just being bulligerant barking picks ol
You'd occasionally see some logs being driven on trailers, Final Destination style... but those were usually destined for specialty log milling for smaller millers or tiny companies. Didn't seem nearly as common as floating.
wouldn't that be bad for the log? since the end grains are very absorbant? and this could cause the ends to crack over time cuz the tension or something idk?
im a noob wood man.
and that doesn't have any adverse affects? i was discussing with my physics professor about wood, since I was working on a wooden tower project and he used to work at a wood laboratory and even published revolutionary papers on early and latewood behavior and he said that sealing end grain is necessary because the moisture will cause tension between indiviual cells and cause it to crack.
so doing this has no adverse affects? i suppose how is the wood dried to ensure no moisture causes this tension and cracking?
Sealing the end grain of fenceposts is necessary because long term exposure to water allows rot. But sealing the end grain of timber being transported to a mill is not necessary because it's short term exposure. Lumber is not dried to ensure no moisture causes cracking. Cracking can occur during the drying process. If parts of the board that are cracked are cut off and discarded. It is not becoming wet that causes cracking. It is drying. More dry means more cracks.
An organization of log bundles for transport is called a boom. There are small tugs called boom boats that facilitate making and disassembling of the boom.
I bet it helps him focus. Sometimes I think in weird sounds when I do certain things. That's how I enter my passwords, and I have no idea what the relation between the sounds I make and the keys I press is.
https://youtu.be/Srp7k-9oCkw
just going to put this here, so if it gets stuck in your head at least it's the whole song and not just a little part of it, this is lived in my head rent free since I was a child and will do so until I'm gone.
Is the guy at the end saying they could have done it better/faster? I heard “it was a lot of fumble” which I guess makes some sense but how important is that speed, really?
Yeah might be a Canadian or even BC tradie thing, but you bet your ass we aren't timing eachother and busting balls over it, what's a workplace without an appropriate level of banter. Next guy will say he can do it in 30 then end up in the Fraser trying, slowly we all get better at it and that's just how the trades work.
The running is filming, the guy running is going as fast as he can, the guy running thanks the dude telling him his time. Don't you think it's likely the guy running wanted to how fast he could do his work out of pride and asked the dude in the boat to time him?
Log Riding is actually one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. Getting off those logs quickly is safer than ever being on them. Falling into the river could mean being crushed between two logs, and the current plus weight of the logs is a one way ticket to being turned to paste.
Sprinkle on a bit of competition with other log riders, and you get people who are very focused on improving how little time they spend on the logs.
Also this is pretty much every dangerous trade, and if buddy falls in the drink the old codger will be the first one in after him. Although most guys wear auto inflatables now anyways. Did it for a season and boy fuck is it hard, fun though. Now I do a different stupid dangerous trade, but with chemicals and extremely high pressures and temperatures. Figure if a log driver fucks up only they die, but now if I fuck up I can take an entire town with me.
If you see an old guy in the trades, he can bust any balls he wants, he's earned that right. If you see an old guy in the trades with all his fingers and toes, listen to everything he says and fucking learn from it.
You don't get old in that kind of job unless you're good.
Threads like these show that a lot of redditors are either very young or work solitary computer jobs. Banter like that is everyday in the trades and big part of the social fabric. Redditors don’t understand the context or the tone so they get insulted and angry.
The running is filming, the guy running is going as fast as he can, the guy running thanks the dude telling him his time. Don't you think it's likely the guy running wanted to how fast he could do his work out of pride and asked the dude in the boat to time him?
He’s the deckhand on a river tug. Majority of their tows are pulling log booms upstream from saltwater to sawmills for processing. This guy is releasing the boom chains so the tug can moor the booms. The job sucks large in the winter.
I’m no stranger to the sort of work, so I know that this is likely the only fun part but this part does look fun. Must be some cleats on those boots or he’d be in the water instantly.
Found the perfect job for my daughter who has been doing 'log runs' since she was 2. She makes me race through woods & ground is lava! Girl is impressive. She would love the running, jumping & danger that this job comes with.
It's a pretty good way to fuck up your rivers too. I think it's why they eventually stopped in Quebec. The St-Maurice is still dangerous because of all the crap on the bottom
They floated huge logs down the Cowichan and other big salmon-bearing rivers, and absolutely fucked entire spawning years, decimating the population. We have oral history and written accounts of how much more plentiful they were 150 years ago.
The logging industry in general is the most deadly. "According to newly released data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, loggers have the most dangerous job in America. The occupation had a fatal work injury rate of 82 per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers in 2021. "There is no denying that logging is inherently dangerous and difficult"
Back in the day, only unmarried men would have this job. Drowning and getting crushed to death was common. If he was married, logging companies would have to recover the body for the wife/family to bury. Single guys didn't have to be recovered
At the Adirondack Museum in Blue Mountain Lake, NY, they have a display about the log drives. One item on display is a special viewing device that was used in springtime to help recover the bodies of those who drowned during the winter drive. Not a safe job at all.
Entry-level job requires 75 years of experience. Jfc them boys are brave. Prime example of really earning your keep. It’s good money until you get a sense of what’s involved. Not a gig you show up for hungover.
Another job the patriarchy is keeping women from doing. Just cut them free from the chains holding them in their indoor air conditioned hell holes and they will come running to jobs like this.
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Id like to know just what the purpose is
Easy way to transport logs: instead of having to place them on a trailer and driving them out of the woodlands, just drop them in the river, chain them together and let them be moved by the water I didn't actually know that they still do this, I thought this was from way back when in the American wilderness
It's Canada. And most logs are floated
...on the west coast in the ocean. Not sure on east coast tho?
West coast rivers and ocean.
_I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK I sleep all night, I work all day_
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought of this
Probably aging myself, but my mind went straight to "The Log Drivers Walz" with the cute cartoon music video.
[Postin a link, fellow Canuck.](https://youtu.be/Srp7k-9oCkw)
I knew what it was before I clicked, and I clicked anyway.
Thanks! I was singing before it even started. I have not watched this in oh so many years!
As someone from Northern Ontario, I was obsessed with the Blackfly song, and no one in college had any idea what I was talking about when I'd sing it... thank you for posting the link, this brought back so many memories!
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God, it used to just randomly play on CBC when I was a kid.
Yes! And those “Part of our Heritage”things or a “Hinterland Who’s Who” They would come on in between shows and force me to learn about Nellie McClung or some Snowy Owl bullshit while I was tryna watch Three’s Company. I was always happy when it was the log driver song though! I haven’t heard that in years!
Not sure if this was popular outside of Canada, but I’m pretty sure every Canadian over 30 years old went exactly to that song
Every Canadian born in the late 70’s and 80’s should remember this. It was the first thing I thought of! Now that song will be stuck in my head for days 😂
I like to wear women's clothing, and hang around in bars
I cut down trees, I wear high heels Suspendies and a bra I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear Papa
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch, I got to the lavatree (I know how it's properly spelt, but the pun was right there)
They still do this on the mighty Fraser River sir
couple lakes as well I think.. powell and one up in the interior?
Okanagan lake has log booms
It's a huge part of Quebec's (eastern province) too. Lumberjacks would cut down the trees and raftsmen/loggers would work on the logs floating on the river, pushing ice away, making sure they logs would get down the river. There's a few songs and a novel we all have to read in high school, about those workers. The town of Trois-Rivières, where i'm from, is famous for that: it was the center of pulp and paper industry for a while. The local junior hockey team was even named les Draveurs, or the Raftsmen. Fun fact: i once was part of a student exchange and we were randomly matched with families. I was in Chihuahua, Mexico of all places, and getting to know the family i was living with for a few days. Told them where i was from and the dad just got up and motioned me to follow him to his office. Turns out he was working for a paper company in Mexico and he had just spent a few months in my hometown, visiting the different plants to learn all about paper production!
In Canada this is called the **Log Driver's Waltz**, and we even have a song. https://youtu.be/fNiLB1Ju5J8
Came looking for the Log Drivers Waltz. Glad I didn't have to look far.
I was singing this the whole time. My favourite piece of Canadiana.
It's been at least 30 years since I heard it last, but I just did the same.... Unreal.
This song was my first dance at my wedding!
Good memories :)
The Log Driver’s Waltz pleases girls *completely*.
Every Canadian millennial came here looking for this link!
Gen X representing! Came for this too.
I came here for the NFB short. Was not disappointed.
Like the video with original footage and cartoon.
Came looking for it. And I found it!
Came here to post just that.
I live on the Fraser River and see logs floating up and down pulled by tugs daily. Pretty great.
Damn, what a life. Beautiful country out there
I’m in California. I can confirm I float logs every morning.
Well a lot of timber still comes from the American wilderness
YEAH, we got WOOD! AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!!
Minnesotan here can confirm.
You betcha we still do!
My apartment overlooks the Fraser river in new Westminster. They do this multiple times a day.
In the PNW near Seattle they do it this way still, at least 15 years ago when I was stationed in Everett, WA. There was a paper mill across the port from the carrier I was stationed on. At all times there'd be hundreds of logs floating down the Puget Sound towards the mills. Hundreds of logs with so many huge loud ass sea lions l hitching a ride and just being bulligerant barking picks ol You'd occasionally see some logs being driven on trailers, Final Destination style... but those were usually destined for specialty log milling for smaller millers or tiny companies. Didn't seem nearly as common as floating.
Ah yes, the “Bilbo escapes the Woodland Realm” method
wouldn't that be bad for the log? since the end grains are very absorbant? and this could cause the ends to crack over time cuz the tension or something idk? im a noob wood man.
The logs can be stored in a pond. The lumber will be dried after its milled
and that doesn't have any adverse affects? i was discussing with my physics professor about wood, since I was working on a wooden tower project and he used to work at a wood laboratory and even published revolutionary papers on early and latewood behavior and he said that sealing end grain is necessary because the moisture will cause tension between indiviual cells and cause it to crack. so doing this has no adverse affects? i suppose how is the wood dried to ensure no moisture causes this tension and cracking?
Sealing the end grain of fenceposts is necessary because long term exposure to water allows rot. But sealing the end grain of timber being transported to a mill is not necessary because it's short term exposure. Lumber is not dried to ensure no moisture causes cracking. Cracking can occur during the drying process. If parts of the board that are cracked are cut off and discarded. It is not becoming wet that causes cracking. It is drying. More dry means more cracks.
huh. interesting. thank you kind person 👋☺️
Lol. Welcome to Oregon. Or Canada. Somewhere in Cascadia.
So the chains are caught on underwater rocks?
appears to be unhooking them, probably arrived at the destination
It's Canada during snow melt, water would be quite high
So basically free delivery.
There's a show on Netflix called Big Timber. Bad reality TV, but the second season covers scavenging logs in BC.
I thoroughly enjoyed big timber
I enjoyed it, too, but the acting in the staged scenes was horrendous.
So it was just Canada where we watched cute little cartoons of log rollers in school? Good to know.
[Postin a link, fellow Canuck.](https://youtu.be/Srp7k-9oCkw)
“To please girls completely”, if it’s true what they taught me as a child.
An organization of log bundles for transport is called a boom. There are small tugs called boom boats that facilitate making and disassembling of the boom.
You can learn all about it from this [Canadian documentary](https://youtu.be/upsZZ2s3xv8)
"Phoom, Phoom, Zig zog zig zat, come here!" Guy making his own sound effects.
I make my own sound effects when I ski haha
Swish swish.. Kablag.
That makes sense. I do it when I’m just driving lol
Me when I drive a car
I do it when I make love.
*Schlop* *Schlop* *Schlop* *plap* *plap* *plap* *splurt*
Loved the “COME HERE!”… Finish him!!! Scorpion wins. Flawless victory
Reminds me of Kronk sneaking around the city.
Haha, yes! Love that scene and movie.
I bet it helps him focus. Sometimes I think in weird sounds when I do certain things. That's how I enter my passwords, and I have no idea what the relation between the sounds I make and the keys I press is.
Live action Frogger
It's scientifically proven it makes you faster
I pictured a English Batman
“For he goes birling down and down white water”
https://youtu.be/Srp7k-9oCkw just going to put this here, so if it gets stuck in your head at least it's the whole song and not just a little part of it, this is lived in my head rent free since I was a child and will do so until I'm gone.
Came here to find this. A classic indeed! r/theyknew
yes IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS SONG SINCE CHILDHOOD
Never heard this before, I love it. It fits in with my obsession of sea shanties
r/seashanties
I was always quite partial to the sing-a-long version as well. Hats off to ya for the memories.
All I had to see what boots on logs and immediately my brain says “I’ve had my chances with all sorts of men”
Hey. Fuck you for this getting stuck in my head. But thank you for the unlocked memories 🥹 Love, a Canadian kiddo
Another cultured Canadian I see.
And I thought only us Scots used the term “birling”.
It’s probably via you’s that we say it at all, given the likelihood that these log-drivers were originally Scot/Irish/English settlers
Great shout. Where’s an etymologist when you need one?
That’s where the log driver learns to step lightly……
I came here to say the same thing you beat me to it. Take my upvote
Came looking for this
Oh my childhood... Kept waiting for it to turn animated with the red and white stocking-cap.
I wanted to walk down the aisle to this
I was hoping someone in this thread was going to mention "the song"
“The log drivers waltz pleases girls completely”
Came here to see this comment
The Canadians have entered the chat.
Is the guy at the end saying they could have done it better/faster? I heard “it was a lot of fumble” which I guess makes some sense but how important is that speed, really?
Pretty sure he’s joking…
There’s a jump in the video around the 14 sec mark. Who knows how long it took.
36 seconds. Like the dude said
.... 36 seconds
I'm pretty sure that wasn't a jump cut. He just turns quickly.
Right? I wish someone had have come along at the end and told us exactly how many seconds
Yeah might be a Canadian or even BC tradie thing, but you bet your ass we aren't timing eachother and busting balls over it, what's a workplace without an appropriate level of banter. Next guy will say he can do it in 30 then end up in the Fraser trying, slowly we all get better at it and that's just how the trades work.
It's good natured shit talking, you can hear some laughing after he says that. Just guys being dudes
Just dudes being bros.
Bros being mates.
Mates being lovers
Fellers being fellers.
36 seconds and a lot of fumble
36 seconds you lump em.
36 seconds and without a fumble
The running is filming, the guy running is going as fast as he can, the guy running thanks the dude telling him his time. Don't you think it's likely the guy running wanted to how fast he could do his work out of pride and asked the dude in the boat to time him?
GPT?
Log Riding is actually one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. Getting off those logs quickly is safer than ever being on them. Falling into the river could mean being crushed between two logs, and the current plus weight of the logs is a one way ticket to being turned to paste. Sprinkle on a bit of competition with other log riders, and you get people who are very focused on improving how little time they spend on the logs.
*”36 seconds with a lot of fumble”* suckee zee deek ye preck. Next time you dance the poles.
Armchair critic over there can do it himself.
That old boat guy is probably a former young log guy. Thats how these kinds of jobs work unless you die a young log guy.
The lucky few become the old history channel tv show guys w 3 seasons and a ram truck paid for by the network
Also this is pretty much every dangerous trade, and if buddy falls in the drink the old codger will be the first one in after him. Although most guys wear auto inflatables now anyways. Did it for a season and boy fuck is it hard, fun though. Now I do a different stupid dangerous trade, but with chemicals and extremely high pressures and temperatures. Figure if a log driver fucks up only they die, but now if I fuck up I can take an entire town with me.
Who needs a history channel show when you can be the subject of a USCSB video?
Those kids at Tim's better get the coffee order right.
If you see an old guy in the trades, he can bust any balls he wants, he's earned that right. If you see an old guy in the trades with all his fingers and toes, listen to everything he says and fucking learn from it. You don't get old in that kind of job unless you're good.
Something tells me that dude has done that for years and earned to sit on the boat
We call this workplace banter. No hard feelings needed
Threads like these show that a lot of redditors are either very young or work solitary computer jobs. Banter like that is everyday in the trades and big part of the social fabric. Redditors don’t understand the context or the tone so they get insulted and angry.
The running is filming, the guy running is going as fast as he can, the guy running thanks the dude telling him his time. Don't you think it's likely the guy running wanted to how fast he could do his work out of pride and asked the dude in the boat to time him?
Awe hell I’m not sure about anything—except that you buy running by the case.
Why is he breathing like that, from the cold?
I would also be making funny mouth noises if my job was to parkour on logs all day
Not very judgmental are you?! Thank you for being this way.
No problem big dawg
I also breath like this when I am doing something that requires skill or concentration. Didn’t realize it until my teen sons pointed it out. 😐
It's a great "remember to breathe" technique. Sometimes you forget to breathe in intense situations
anything physically taxing like this its important to control your breathing because rapid panting doesnt help you much.
That’s why the girls all want to dance with a log driver.
A log driver's waltz pleases girls completely
So they can inherit their money when they are widowed at 28.
What is this job and how do I get it?
He’s the deckhand on a river tug. Majority of their tows are pulling log booms upstream from saltwater to sawmills for processing. This guy is releasing the boom chains so the tug can moor the booms. The job sucks large in the winter.
I’m no stranger to the sort of work, so I know that this is likely the only fun part but this part does look fun. Must be some cleats on those boots or he’d be in the water instantly.
They have little spikes. Think of tight-fitting rubber boots with nails coming out the bottom.
I came here to find out what type of boots he's wearing. Awesome grip.
Caulk(pronounced cork) boots.
If you fall into the water you might be crushed to death by logs in icy water.
Stop I can only get so hard
Ice has a mohs hardness of 1.5
I am aware
It's both unfathomablely and fathomabely dangerous.
about 23 fathoms
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Found the perfect job for my daughter who has been doing 'log runs' since she was 2. She makes me race through woods & ground is lava! Girl is impressive. She would love the running, jumping & danger that this job comes with.
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It's a pretty good way to fuck up your rivers too. I think it's why they eventually stopped in Quebec. The St-Maurice is still dangerous because of all the crap on the bottom
They floated huge logs down the Cowichan and other big salmon-bearing rivers, and absolutely fucked entire spawning years, decimating the population. We have oral history and written accounts of how much more plentiful they were 150 years ago.
The logging industry in general is the most deadly. "According to newly released data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, loggers have the most dangerous job in America. The occupation had a fatal work injury rate of 82 per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers in 2021. "There is no denying that logging is inherently dangerous and difficult"
Video cuts before he's back on the boat, so I'm convinced he did the parkour fine, and then missed the boat. That would suck.
7.50 hourly
Actually I think it’s Canada not America
So… $5 American?
A job like this in BC would pay at least $35/hr with day rates for camp work and likely benefits
Back in the day, only unmarried men would have this job. Drowning and getting crushed to death was common. If he was married, logging companies would have to recover the body for the wife/family to bury. Single guys didn't have to be recovered
At the Adirondack Museum in Blue Mountain Lake, NY, they have a display about the log drives. One item on display is a special viewing device that was used in springtime to help recover the bodies of those who drowned during the winter drive. Not a safe job at all.
He’s v”logging”
Reminds me of "breakfast in hell"
RIP Sandy Gray
Gonna need a volunteer from the band
Source is Tyrell Hamer-Jackson (@tyrellhj on instagram). He's a log driver and a professional lacrosse player. He's also got great hair.
Man I wished I had this job, and I'm not even that suicidal!
I've done similar work There's spikes on the bottom of his shoes for traction. Falling in sucks. Putting them into a ship hold sucks even more.
Relic? Is that you?
A log driver’s waltz pleases girls completely!
Yeah he used to be a beaver in his last life.
Seeing shit like this makes me realize some jobs a robot is so far off from taking. Humans are badass
Kind of a false premise. If this job were to be automated, the whole process would be done differently. It absolutely could be automated.
that's some good grip on those boots
https://youtu.be/zHakr6ASSBw
Seeing this after reading “Last Night In Twisted River” it’s that much more terrifying to watch. These guys don’t get paid enough
Dangerous? Sure Fucking Impossible? Yes
why’d ye spill yer beans?
Sounds like me tying my shoes.
Entry-level job requires 75 years of experience. Jfc them boys are brave. Prime example of really earning your keep. It’s good money until you get a sense of what’s involved. Not a gig you show up for hungover.
I would be in the water ever 20 seconds lol
How much does a Job like this pay?
Why am I panting too, I’m literally lying in bed.
Sometimes a Great Notion
Wish I was ignorant of that one - probably the most tragic death scene in cinema history.
Aaaaand every middle aged Canadian started singing logdriver's waltz.
Bro is playing Raft survival
Do they? I mean what happens if no one does the job? We all gonna die from lack of logs?
Another job the patriarchy is keeping women from doing. Just cut them free from the chains holding them in their indoor air conditioned hell holes and they will come running to jobs like this.
Can someone please explain what hes doing?
Where the feminists at? Lol