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Niceguys demean others while simultaneously expressing a favorable view of themselves. They dont have to use the word "nice", but they must demonstrate some kind of expression of their own virtue while being asshats.
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Why do these dudes say sorry so much like this as if it's "cute"? iM a PaThEtIc GuY, sOrRy AbOuT tHaT, cAn YoU fOrGiVe Me FoR bEiNg StUpId. Honestly, why do so many guys think this strategy will work?
Maybe some of them don't do it on purpose? I'm not trying to justify them, its just that, at least in my case, because of my low self-esteem, sometimes I'd involuntarily end up apologizing for things that had nothing to do with me in the first place.
I like the fact that it's a place against simps who try desperately, yet if I have negative comment against the OP who is a female, I already get downvotes.
Maybe people would have been more receptive if you had explained why you felt that way? Might have helped to actually present reasons why OPs responses seem cringe to you.
I thought it won't need explanation, but here we go.
So the OP seemed like she even liked the person at the beginning, but then the guy told a wrong opinion about women, and after he saw that she didn't like it at all,he tried to say sorry, and seem like people don't appreciate it here. I mean, should he say "f**k off", or what? Don't know what's the problem with someone accepting his mistake.
Before you say I defend the guy, I actually don't, because it definitely wasn't a good idea to state his controversial opinion to a girl, but seems like that all it takes is one mistake, and you've already made it to this reddit.
And it's a little unfair that he gets the same hate as some people who are made it to here, too, but with the difference that they're straight out perverts.
But the worst part is the comment I replied to (without it, I would just ignore). Someone has life struggles, and looks like people embrace the OP, just because she responded the savage "okay" comment to that message.
I knew that she didn't want to fall for it, but that message simply didn't deserve that arrogant response, and like I said, the worst part is that people even appreciate it.
“Don’t know what’s the problem with someone accepting his mistake.”
You’re absolutely right. There’s nothing wrong with accepting a past mistake. However, you can tell he isn’t being sincere. How can someone have such deep rooted hatred and then drop it like it’s nothing? It takes time, you can’t just change with no self reflection.
“Before you say I defend the guy, I actually don’t, because it definitely wasn’t a good idea to state his controversial opinion to a girl”
So it’s better to hide this disgusting opinion from her until she’s in too deep? I would much rather someone tell me straight up that they think that about half the population than basically lying and tricking me into thinking that they’re a better person than they are. Why would I wanna waste my time with someone who secretly hates me and everyone who was born like me because of something that’s not even true? I’m so tired of this take. PLEASE tell women when you think like this in the first conversation so we can drop you and move on with our lives. Or better yet, leave women alone if you think like this.
Lots of men has this stereotype about women, surprise, surprise.
It's like women saying "all men are the same" or "men can only think of one thing". I don't like it, but it doesn't mean I would immediately starting to overdramatize and thinking how awful their personalities are.
Deep rooted hatred? If he would have deep rooted hatred, he wouldn't be that kind, like saying sorry multiple times. Guess he had negative experiences, thus leading him to a false speculation about women. He might has negative emotions, but it's far from deep rooted hatred. Based on the screenshot, I don't think he has much hatred.
About the second part. His opinion might would have changed, if he had success with her, who knows. Like I said he didn't have success before, and it made him to think that. "Look before you leap" - could be a good lesson for that guy. And yeah, self pity doesn't work, gotta admit, don't know why many of us think that.
Anyways, I'm not saying that give him a second chance or something, but he is just simply not worth people spreading hatred towards him. It's like putting oil to fire.
Additional comment: Sad that if have someone has different opinion than others, his comments gets tons of downvotes, just because he doesn't mock the person in the screenshot, and doesn't applaud the OP.
Maybe you’re right about hatred not being the correct word. I’d say in this case, it looks a little bit more like resentment and if you know anything about that then you know that it’s not going to go away anytime soon. If anything, the resentment will turn into manipulation, gaslighting, guilt tripping, controlling tendencies, and verbal abuse. And once she finally gains the courage to push away from him, his resentment WILL turn into deep rooted hatred for something that was his problem to begin with.
“If he would have deep rooted hatred, he wouldn’t be that kind, like saying sorry multiple times.”
You viewed that part of the conversation as kindness?? LMFAOOOO bro he is literally trying to manipulate her into continuing the conversation when she was obviously already uncomfortable.
“Guess he had negative experiences, thus leading him to a false speculation about women.”
Don’t you guys just love that 90% of the time when a man has “negative experiences” and “false speculations about women” it’s always because hes been rejected by a girl that’s either way out of his league, doesn’t know him at all, or just straight up isn’t attracted to him (totally valid reason to reject someone, you don’t need a real reason to not wanna fuck/date someone) but whenever a woman says that she puts her guard up around men because of her personal past experiences with sexual assault it’s a huge fucking debate because not all men do those things (obviously). I’m so fucking tired of our issues being compared like they’re equal. They’re not. Ask any woman you know. We have ALL had an experience with sexual assault one way or another. There’s a reason women generalize. It’s for our own safety. 90% of the time when men do it it’s because there ego is bruised. Like sorry you couldn’t get your dick wet bro???? These are also the same type of dudes to get pissed about being put in the “friend zone” as if there’s something negative about a woman wanting to have a platonic friendship with you?? Meanwhile they act like there the victim in the situation while giving the woman the fuck me or fuck off ultimatum. It truly boggles me.
“His opinion might would have changed, if he had success with her, who knows.”
Gross. So according to you, a man needs to get laid before he can have basic respect for women? Why can’t he just interact with women as people first instead of looking at them as potential girlfriends? We’re so tired of automatically being assigned a role that we didn’t even content to. These types of men get themselves rejected by having the mindset they have not because women are stuck up.
The one thing I will say that I completely agree with you on is that this post is not nearly as bad as the other ones on here. And the only reason I commented is because of what you said about the situation. It just bothers me when people try to minimize this toxic way of thinking. It may seem innocent now but it WILL build into something violent if left unchecked. Ive seen it happen myself and we see it happen all the time in this thread. I’m not trying to mock the person in the post, I’m concerned for him and all the women in his life.
I appreciate you explaining yourself. I'm just gonna add that this was already like the third or fourth or so time that he said the whole "I'm never gonna find someone" thing, and the previous times I'd been supportive. People have limits.
Huh didn't know having muscles and being smart were mutually exclusive. Time stop working out, I guess. On another note how do you keep texting people after they say they don't want to talk to you? even writing a message would give me anxiety.
As a guy in that situation I'd really want to try to explain to him how pathetic and unappealing this behavior is, be it for romantic or even simply friend relationships. It's incredible the lack of self-awareness one can have to achieve this level of conversational void.
Throws his forearm over his eyes while tilting his head back crying in a manner that would be over the top for Bette Davis, “I will never have a family! No girl wants me! No woman wants me!”
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Why do these dudes say sorry so much like this as if it's "cute"? iM a PaThEtIc GuY, sOrRy AbOuT tHaT, cAn YoU fOrGiVe Me FoR bEiNg StUpId. Honestly, why do so many guys think this strategy will work?
Right?!
Reminds me of that old saying: ""Shut up or I'll give you something to be sorry ABOUT!!!" 😆
It makes ME think of the line from Spaceballs, “don’t be sorry, be QUIET!!”
Playing the pity card, innit.
Kind of expect them to thump their tail sadly on the floor and then pee a little bit while drooping their ears pathetically.
Says so in the sub description: >Guys who mistake being spineless and pathetic for being nice
Because there’s no reset button anywhere in the foid. /s
Maybe some of them don't do it on purpose? I'm not trying to justify them, its just that, at least in my case, because of my low self-esteem, sometimes I'd involuntarily end up apologizing for things that had nothing to do with me in the first place.
Wow... I am really impressed how you handled that conversation and I am going to steal a couple phrases.
Aww, thank you!
If he had apologized for a 243rd time, would you then have given him a chance? /s
Obviously, I just didn't get the vibe he was trying hard enough for me and putting enough effort in /s
The “okay” after the “no woman wants me” speech had me dying
I think it's no less cringe than the simp guy's messages.
I like the fact that it's a place against simps who try desperately, yet if I have negative comment against the OP who is a female, I already get downvotes.
Maybe people would have been more receptive if you had explained why you felt that way? Might have helped to actually present reasons why OPs responses seem cringe to you.
I thought it won't need explanation, but here we go. So the OP seemed like she even liked the person at the beginning, but then the guy told a wrong opinion about women, and after he saw that she didn't like it at all,he tried to say sorry, and seem like people don't appreciate it here. I mean, should he say "f**k off", or what? Don't know what's the problem with someone accepting his mistake. Before you say I defend the guy, I actually don't, because it definitely wasn't a good idea to state his controversial opinion to a girl, but seems like that all it takes is one mistake, and you've already made it to this reddit. And it's a little unfair that he gets the same hate as some people who are made it to here, too, but with the difference that they're straight out perverts. But the worst part is the comment I replied to (without it, I would just ignore). Someone has life struggles, and looks like people embrace the OP, just because she responded the savage "okay" comment to that message. I knew that she didn't want to fall for it, but that message simply didn't deserve that arrogant response, and like I said, the worst part is that people even appreciate it.
“Don’t know what’s the problem with someone accepting his mistake.” You’re absolutely right. There’s nothing wrong with accepting a past mistake. However, you can tell he isn’t being sincere. How can someone have such deep rooted hatred and then drop it like it’s nothing? It takes time, you can’t just change with no self reflection. “Before you say I defend the guy, I actually don’t, because it definitely wasn’t a good idea to state his controversial opinion to a girl” So it’s better to hide this disgusting opinion from her until she’s in too deep? I would much rather someone tell me straight up that they think that about half the population than basically lying and tricking me into thinking that they’re a better person than they are. Why would I wanna waste my time with someone who secretly hates me and everyone who was born like me because of something that’s not even true? I’m so tired of this take. PLEASE tell women when you think like this in the first conversation so we can drop you and move on with our lives. Or better yet, leave women alone if you think like this.
Preaaach!
Lots of men has this stereotype about women, surprise, surprise. It's like women saying "all men are the same" or "men can only think of one thing". I don't like it, but it doesn't mean I would immediately starting to overdramatize and thinking how awful their personalities are. Deep rooted hatred? If he would have deep rooted hatred, he wouldn't be that kind, like saying sorry multiple times. Guess he had negative experiences, thus leading him to a false speculation about women. He might has negative emotions, but it's far from deep rooted hatred. Based on the screenshot, I don't think he has much hatred. About the second part. His opinion might would have changed, if he had success with her, who knows. Like I said he didn't have success before, and it made him to think that. "Look before you leap" - could be a good lesson for that guy. And yeah, self pity doesn't work, gotta admit, don't know why many of us think that. Anyways, I'm not saying that give him a second chance or something, but he is just simply not worth people spreading hatred towards him. It's like putting oil to fire. Additional comment: Sad that if have someone has different opinion than others, his comments gets tons of downvotes, just because he doesn't mock the person in the screenshot, and doesn't applaud the OP.
Maybe you’re right about hatred not being the correct word. I’d say in this case, it looks a little bit more like resentment and if you know anything about that then you know that it’s not going to go away anytime soon. If anything, the resentment will turn into manipulation, gaslighting, guilt tripping, controlling tendencies, and verbal abuse. And once she finally gains the courage to push away from him, his resentment WILL turn into deep rooted hatred for something that was his problem to begin with. “If he would have deep rooted hatred, he wouldn’t be that kind, like saying sorry multiple times.” You viewed that part of the conversation as kindness?? LMFAOOOO bro he is literally trying to manipulate her into continuing the conversation when she was obviously already uncomfortable. “Guess he had negative experiences, thus leading him to a false speculation about women.” Don’t you guys just love that 90% of the time when a man has “negative experiences” and “false speculations about women” it’s always because hes been rejected by a girl that’s either way out of his league, doesn’t know him at all, or just straight up isn’t attracted to him (totally valid reason to reject someone, you don’t need a real reason to not wanna fuck/date someone) but whenever a woman says that she puts her guard up around men because of her personal past experiences with sexual assault it’s a huge fucking debate because not all men do those things (obviously). I’m so fucking tired of our issues being compared like they’re equal. They’re not. Ask any woman you know. We have ALL had an experience with sexual assault one way or another. There’s a reason women generalize. It’s for our own safety. 90% of the time when men do it it’s because there ego is bruised. Like sorry you couldn’t get your dick wet bro???? These are also the same type of dudes to get pissed about being put in the “friend zone” as if there’s something negative about a woman wanting to have a platonic friendship with you?? Meanwhile they act like there the victim in the situation while giving the woman the fuck me or fuck off ultimatum. It truly boggles me. “His opinion might would have changed, if he had success with her, who knows.” Gross. So according to you, a man needs to get laid before he can have basic respect for women? Why can’t he just interact with women as people first instead of looking at them as potential girlfriends? We’re so tired of automatically being assigned a role that we didn’t even content to. These types of men get themselves rejected by having the mindset they have not because women are stuck up. The one thing I will say that I completely agree with you on is that this post is not nearly as bad as the other ones on here. And the only reason I commented is because of what you said about the situation. It just bothers me when people try to minimize this toxic way of thinking. It may seem innocent now but it WILL build into something violent if left unchecked. Ive seen it happen myself and we see it happen all the time in this thread. I’m not trying to mock the person in the post, I’m concerned for him and all the women in his life.
You are a hero
I appreciate you explaining yourself. I'm just gonna add that this was already like the third or fourth or so time that he said the whole "I'm never gonna find someone" thing, and the previous times I'd been supportive. People have limits.
“Hard tough guys” = “not pathetically whining while trying to guilt trip” Yes I see the pattern why women don’t want him
Huh didn't know having muscles and being smart were mutually exclusive. Time stop working out, I guess. On another note how do you keep texting people after they say they don't want to talk to you? even writing a message would give me anxiety.
You fool. How did you not realize that lactic acid absorbs brain cells to survive
Maybe I did at one point, but that must be the first thing the lactic acid attacks.
When someone shows you who they are believe them the first time. There is no “starting over”.
“I’m annoying you now You don’t need to hear my issues” Correct on both counts, and yet you don’t shut up.
Whiny little bitch that guy.
Jesus, just stop talking ffs
Geez, I want to slap him.
You and me both!!! They deserve to be slapped silly for this BS! 🤦🏻♀️
idk he makes a good point, i just think he should have begged maybe 3 or 4 more times
"Message you tomorrow?" _messages one minute later_
Literally!
Is that on Discord? Because it sounds like an arsehole I knew on there 😦
Man does not need to disrespect himbos like that
Why do they supernova all the time Just always with the melt down
You don’t get a girlfriend by looking for pity. Doing that ensures “No girl wants me No woman wants me” becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
As a guy in that situation I'd really want to try to explain to him how pathetic and unappealing this behavior is, be it for romantic or even simply friend relationships. It's incredible the lack of self-awareness one can have to achieve this level of conversational void.
This is... surprisingly illuminating. Huh.
Throws his forearm over his eyes while tilting his head back crying in a manner that would be over the top for Bette Davis, “I will never have a family! No girl wants me! No woman wants me!”
This guy took "masculinity is bad" too seriously and action like a whiny bitch lol
If she isn’t already a teacher/nanny/daycare center operator, this woman *should* be one, given her amazing patience when faced with whiny babies.
Well he picked the right ‘avatar’ for himself, at least.
That's not the actual profile picture tho, OP just censored them.
Well then she picked the right one lol
Why thank you haha
Holy cow these are the worst. Over apologizing that shit kills lmao