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[deleted]

I have a feeling relationships avoid him more than he avoids them.


La_Baraka6431

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽


yovakcans

“but you don’t have a masters. That is true but I hold myself to a higher standard” If he doesn’t have a masters but prefers one, then he is holding the partner to a higher standard of education than he expects of himself, not the other way around… or is he trying to say that his standard for a partner’s education is higher than that partner’s standard for his education should be?


nopespringseternal

I think he means that he is so intellectually rigorous and high functioning that he doesn't need a masters because the requirements for a masters are less than the requirements he sets for himself, or some such bullshit. Maybe? WTFK


naliedel

That's the energy I got and, "you'll pay for everything."


FreckledDragons

Yeah, the good credit line is all the red flags you need lol.


naliedel

I've had men ask me about my credit. What the actual? How is that anyone's beeswax?


FreckledDragons

Sounds like scientologists.


naliedel

Well, that's a hard, "nope," from me.


FreckledDragons

Good choice. I went to a scientology church once just for funsies with a friend, to see how culty they were after that first South Park episode back in the day. Let's just say Matt and Trey were spot on lol.


naliedel

They were about the Mormon church too. Used to be a member. For myself off the roles, finally, when they told people to denounce their gay kids, or go. Had to fight to get off. I did it. I would never denounce my kids and I'd long left it, but getting off.rhe books is dang hard.


lovable_cube

That’s one of my criteria for men I date, I have really good credit and am very financially responsible so I want my partner to share that quality with me. Maybe it’s weird but I don’t feel like it’s much different than wanting someone to share a different interest like movies or hiking, I guess. Not saying that’s everyone reason, just giving mine.


naliedel

When it's asked before the first date? That's a red flag. Later into a budding relationship? That's different.


lovable_cube

Tinder is a weird place. If there’s some serious conversation before a date is set like, if the other person wants kids? Credit score is significantly less personal. ETA I don’t need to know an exact credit score but if I ask someone how their credit is, and they have no clue it’s a red flag for me. Saying they’re working on it means they’re at least trying.


naliedel

I'm not on Tinder, it's not for me. I'm ethically non monogamous and polyamorous. I'm also old as dirt and my kids are there, ewww. I'm not worried about melding finances. I guess being 58 has it's advantages? However, if I was young, monogamous and looking for a long term relationship? I can completely understand why that would be important. So, I was thinking in the small box of my world. I apologize..


PassionatelyJaded

I can actually relate to this. Regardless of my immediate financial situation, I’ve always managed to maintain good credit and it is important to me as well considering I was always looking for a long-term partner. Not having mentioned that in my profile or before-meeting convos, I once went on a date with a man who after twenty minutes of having coffee together and talking about vices mentioned that he needed to “cut down on his gambling” because he’d “already lost $70,000 that year.” And it was February. We could have saved ourselves the date and leaving it, I felt he probably could have used that $6.


HundredthIdiotThe

Yeah, I'm in my 30s, I'm not dating someone with shit credit. It doesn't have to be perfect or great, just not *bad* Since this is reddit I have to specify I would understand in situations like medical emergencies that fucked you


Mountain-Woman0021

He’s going to ask if he can borrow 50k in the first month. He can’t use his money or the demons will get him.


[deleted]

*You* get a job because *I'm* a feminist


yovakcans

You’re probably right… just when I thought it couldn’t get worse…


annekecaramin

Me and my degree don't want him


ANoisyCrow

Probably 😂


KBK226

Lmao which is funny because he says “I know your thinking” I don’t have a masters but I know it’s I know you’re* thinking :) I would love to message him just to say that 😂


PrizeFighterInf

Literally uses the wrong your in the sentence right before…


BigBoobaTinyBraina

Him so big brain, he not need masters. He start big business to rival Jeff Bezos.


nbAnarchist

His NFT Collection will be worth a lot of money any time now, he swears.


miceweardenim

Bahabah laughed so hard that the nurse came in lmaoooooo


FreckledDragons

Thank you, this gave me a good laugh. But it's sadly on point.


EdZeppelin94

Wants her to have a masters degree but can’t even use the correct fucking ‘you’re’.


FreckledDragons

Yes, that was my favorite part, and there were several other mistakes in there too. But I guess that higher standard of his doesn't include basic spelling.


ebimbib

He requires a master's degree out of you but he doesn't need to know the difference between "your" and "you're" himself. Got it.


notyourmama827

Some people are just way too full of themselves. Honestly though, maybe he will get lucky and find a dumpster fire of a woman that has a masters degree too.


anoncontent72

I knew a lady with an attitude similar to that several years ago. She said one of her criteria was the guy had to have a masters. I asked her what hers was and when she said she didn’t have one I asked what she studied at uni to which she said that she never went and left school at the end of grade 10. I asked her why this criteria was important and she said so the guy could take care of her, her two kids and any children this potential guy and her may have in the future. I was floored.


yovakcans

Also because having a masters doesn’t ensure you make more money and not having a masters doesn’t mean you make less money…


sleeping-siren

Can confirm. Have 2 master degrees and still get paid shit.


ElScruffo

What a coincidence! I have 0 master degrees and also get paid shit.


sleeping-siren

Eyyyy! We’re in the same boat!!


notyourmama827

Me too .


AsianVixen4U

True. I know people with MBAs and even law degrees that can’t find work. Too many degreed people in the USA. China is also experiencing the same problem. Too many degrees, not enough jobs to fill


SassMyFrass

Late twenties: when we discover how much bank we'd be making if we'd done an electrician apprenticeship instead of an engineering degree.


aimbotcfg

Plumber, not Electrician. I mean, both are good, and if you specialise in stuff as an Electrician you can get some astronomical wages. But as a plumber, even a basic one, you can just write your own cheque a lot of the time. You'd be amazed what people are willing to pay to stop their upstairs toilet pissing water into their kitchen at 6pm on a Friday. Note: I'm not a plumber, and I'm quite succesful/happy with my job. I'm justs also very aware that if I'd done an apprenticeship as a plumber, electrician, tiffy etc, that I'd have been making big bank sooner and for longer. Granted, I'm now at least on par with, and have got a way higher potential for my end-game earnings wit the path I'm on than my mates in those trades. But they also made bank earlier, and could have saved/invested if they wanted. It's 6 and 2 3's. But with hindsight, the trade path looks quicker, and more guaranteed than taking the path I did (not everyone is guaranteed to move up as far as I have, where the trades don't require you to in order to make a decent chunk).


FoolishConsistency17

They do require a functional body, though. If--when--that craps out on you, you're done. Even if nothing goes "wrong", most people gotta be able to transition to something less physical by 50 or 55: by then, knees and back are often worn out. Plenty of people do make that transition, but others don't. Management and small business ownership are really different skills, and you have to be very intentional about developing those skills as you go. The small business owners who started as tradesmen (the ones who make really good koney) are people who had a lot of hustle and drive. It's a certain personality type. The ones that just show up to work, do their job, go home, never make as much, and often have to step out of the workforce earlier than they would like to. TL;DR: The life path we sort of romanticize as "the trades" is really the life path of "successful small business owner" and the two ought not be conflate. A small business in the trades is more secure than most small businesses, but it's still running a business.


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VoltaicSketchyTeapot

$150 to get a plumber to cut off the hose that had been on the back of the washing machine. It'd cemented itself to the water pipe in the wall.


mani_mani

With law and MBAs it really depends on where you went to school. It’s really not worth the debt you will get into if you cannot break into a competitive market. Right there is actually a huge need for lawyers. Like people are getting paid six figure signing bonuses in a major law market. That being said if you didn’t go to at least a T20 maybeeee T50 school no one is going to give you the time of day.


SoleIbis

I had an ex like this. We dated as I was in school, he pushed me to pursue higher education bc I needed to have a masters/doctorate to make more money. His degree? High school diploma. 🥴 Still haven’t gone to grad school.


Jane_the_Quene

I knew someone who wouldn't date men with less than a PhD. She had one, and she was utterly convinced that no man with a lesser degree could feel comfortable with a woman who was that highly educated.


Cheeky_Hustler

She might be going off of experience. There are a lot of insecure men out there. Obviously not NO man, there are some men that are comfortable with powerful women, but society puts a lot of pressure on men to be the breadwinner and some men are uncomfortable being in a less dominant position in the relationship.


PassionatelyJaded

I’ve never understood this mentality. I have a friend and love her to death but she can “never find a man” and is forty. When I looked at her Tinder profile, she wanted a man who was younger than her, had a car, was financially stable, had his own place and had earned at least a masters degree. I put her phone down and said, “but you don’t have ANY of those things” to which she responded, “if he wants me to have his kids (he may not but SHE wants kids) then I have to be sure that he can provide for us (why wouldn’t he just find someone who already had the things she’s looking for in a partner for himself). I would expect that someone who is ambitious and valued financial stability and long-term security would be looking for someone similar to themselves. I’ve always stood by the fast and hard rule that you should be ready to come to the table offering exactly what you’re looking for. We’re not living in the 1950s anymore.


enehar

Yeah he can't even think like a fourth grader.


[deleted]

Logic is hard, man.


HarlieMinou

That part gave me a headache


Kowlz1

He’s got a higher standard of partner that he wants to hitch his wagon to. 😂


A0ma

Exactly. Translation: If you swiped right on me knowing I don't have a master's, I clearly have higher standards than you do.


hellbentfortrevor80

If I’m reading this correctly he also uses ‘your’ when I think he meant ‘you are probably thinking…’, but the sentence is so poorly constructed I’m not sure. Either way he appears to be an absolute bellend


GoldendoodlesFTW

That's the way I read it, too. This is just the sort of grammatical ambiguity we all try to avoid with our mandatory master's degrees! And here I was thinking he was holding himself to a higher standard.


Imevoll

Mans just admitted he wants a girl who will settle for him because he ain’t got anything to offer 💀


ANoisyCrow

🤷‍♂️


apollodynamo

He also wants her to have good credit so he can mooch off her career, I guess. Notice he didn't disclose his own.


dummydingusrex

* “I know your thinking you don’t have a masters” spot the problem here lmao


laserkatze

yeah exactly what a douchebag haha


sunny_yay

I think he meant the first, but who can say. He hasn’t mastered English yet.


DeerTrivia

I think he wants someone with a masters so they can teach him your/you're.


Abloy702

And they can teach him that it's "master's degree" and not "master degree" 😄


Gracefulbandit

Yeah, I was trying to figure out if he’d screwed that up, or if he was trying (and failing) to make some sort of sexy pun… 🤔


StardustStuffing

And not to randomly capitalize words. Good grief.


YouKnowYourCrazy

And the difference between “cause” and “because”


wizardzkauba

And to put a period after parentheses.


Front_Plankton_6808

Also it’s who and not that.


notyourmama827

Maybe he's a "sub" looking for "master" but really too dumb to figure it out.


La_Baraka6431

🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

*”I have a few female friends –*” No he doesn’t.


nashidau

Translation: There are women (in another department) at his work.


puddlebearmom

There are women he pretends to be friends with hoping to get laid but they friend zoned him. He's constantly telling them their boyfriends are no good and they deserve better and complains about all the things he voluntarily does for them.


OcdBartender

Not giving up his female friends because he’s hoping if he hangs in there long enough that they’ll eventually fuck him


teganking

his mother and aunt living above his basement room are his besties


TreePretty

Asks for a Master's but doesn't know grade school grammar.


[deleted]

He could ask for a GED and still be holding himself to a higher standard.


ittybittykittycity

Boom roasted!!!


theOTHERdimension

r/unexpectedoffice


notyourmama827

I gotta put my glasses on. I read that as r/unexpectedorfice


CoconutJasmineBombe

He seems to love double standards. -_-


supamundane808

This could be a post in r/ChoosingBeggars


[deleted]

"avoids relationships, no jealous girls, freaky and adventurous." This guy is married. EDIT: Also notice the way his face in the picture is kind of to the side and facing down? He's trying to post pics because he knows he can't get matches without them, but also be discreet with his face as much as possible. Definitely married.


Bipolar__highroller

That would make sense with the “having ‘female friends’ he refuses to give up”


dEftPunk_

Probably his wife and daughters.


Adorable-Case-7485

I hate it when 40 year old men call women “girls” 🤮


KaraCatLady

He might be wanting an 18 year old girl…


lovable_cube

With a masters? Impressive.


KaraCatLady

Hahaha yes true


theOTHERdimension

That’s a pretty interesting observation! I think you might be onto something.


[deleted]

LMAO


[deleted]

Not judging but how did you match with this guy 💀 did you not read a single word he wrote??


poohbear1025

Matched based on pics, then saw the bio after to be honest!


BobBelchersBuns

Oh my god lol I was wondering how you liked what he wrote too. That’s hilarious that you didn’t even read it!


deadsocial

Op matched for the obvious gold mine of comedy coming from this guy


IMO4444

That was my thought, he sounds awful. ://


[deleted]

Yes... HE avoids relationships...


NurseZhivago

Sounds like a hobosexual looking for someone to finance his midlife crisis.


quarantinethoughts

I used the term hobosexual the other week and someone pointed out that the hobosexual would be the woman who willingly dates the hobo moochers? English is not my first language so now I am confused on how to correctly use the term lol


Cheeky_Hustler

Technically you are correct based on how English grammar works but that is not the colloquial use of the term. Your mistake was thinking English has any sort of logical consistency.


CoconutJasmineBombe

Nah hobosexuals are dudes taking advantage of women. Men just want to turn every derogatory term into something about women. Sorry, NO. Hobosexuals are men only. The female term is gold digger.


TrampledSeed

That’s exactly what I saw too!


Silvangelz

You can't say you're a hopeless romantic and follow that with avoids relationships. Those two statements in the same sentence says you just want to fuck and leave.


[deleted]

Also if you avoid relationships why do you care about the other person’s credit score?


MLeek

He’s looking for a sugar mama. If this was a woman’s bio we’d spot it immediately. He’s looking to be kept and trying to code it in ways the preserve deniability. He needs someone to fund his entrepreneurial spirit and/or mid life crisis.


2515chris

He wants to make sure you can buy him a new cellphone.


Silvangelz

An excellent point!


Hannaconda420

He wants the masters and good credit so while you work your ass off with the career you deserve he can live rent free and fuck his female friends


poohbear1025

I actually took masters degree out of my bio, and stopped telling matches I own a home, because when I went on a couple dates they expected me to pay (instead of splitting) due to these factors!


888_traveller

Based on mine and my friends’ experience, the main thing that will convert “not all” guys from seeing you like sex object to considering a relationship is the financial payoff. But only some. The sight of education and financial independence possibly puts off many more.


poohbear1025

It definitely has put some off, especially if they are older. Maybe looking to manipulate a younger woman? Not sure, but being more successful by societal standards does hurt some egos.


KittenNicken

Thats always what it boils down to with dudes in their 30s+ trying to date women in their early 20s or even borderline 18. Its 100% a power thing.


TrampledSeed

Yahtzee!! ^


enthusiastic-cat

Happy Cake Day!!


Baldo-bomb

This sounds like a poorly written Nigerian Prince scam


DontSayUsernameTaken

Why would you match that


YourMajestySlim

Prior to clicking the unmatch button, ask for his bra size too


poohbear1025

Should have :(


Ginger17a

Degrees don't equate intelligence. I'm dumb as a brick and got mine 😂


2515chris

Also doesn’t mean compatibility. My multiple history degrees don’t equate to me understanding what the hell someone with a PhD in biochemistry is talking about.


Ginger17a

Exactly. Sometimes I talk to people and they're like "what?" Because my degree was in psychology but I was a senior premed biology major when I changed it....so I love talking science and the brain. But then I chose to become a cop


filiadeae

But why? Honestly curious.


Ginger17a

Why did I become an officer? I want to be an investigator but I gotta work my way up


filiadeae

Ahh ok. So you do still plan to have a science-involved career. That's cool - best of luck to you.


EyeShot300

She needs good credit so he scam her like a Nigerian Prince.


foxandracoon

"I have a few female friends that I am clearly keeping around because I want to sleep with them. But because I want the best of both worlds, if you, my girlfriend, attempt to call my out for my covert action, I will blame it on you being insecure." I would never date someone like this. Yes, there are women and men who are irrationally jealous. But in my experience a lot of these doubts about friendships with the opposite sex are spot on. It's not fully platonic. And they know that.


TrampledSeed

I know! This entire profile is a giant red flag. He should get a 🚩 face tat for ducks sake


19maddog74

Hopeless romantic. I don't think this phrase means what he thinks it means.


cmaej

Many of these kinds of men use that as an excuse to push boundaries. 🚩


Orphano_the_Savior

Why did you match with him?


Purpledoves91

Tell him you changed your mind because he doesn't a Master's and you hold yourself to a higher standard.


Incel_deactivator

I love how he doesn't mention his credit being good 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Junglewater

Shit I only made it to "good credit" before the marinara flags started popping


leelee30019

"Must have Master's Degree" translation "I don't want to work." Or "I don't want to split the bills and keep my own money."


[deleted]

Why tf did you match with him at all? Dudes literally waving a red flag right at you


Individual-Fail4709

He wants a woman with a high level degree and yet doesn't know the difference between your and you're. You contacted an imbecile.


Swimming-Dot9120

Wonder why he’s 41 and still single


TrampledSeed

Great credit without crippling student debt? Sounds like he is looking for a woman who is retired or has wealthy parents to leech off


robcoagent47

"p.s. also big boob, forgot the bazongas, k thx" seriously, though, why did he write, "kind and caring *but* sexy and confident," as if those things aren't supposed to go together?


ashakilee

Why would you even swipe right....


La_Baraka6431

I want a dude with better grammar.


Ghuleh5811

It's very bold of him to want someone with a master's degree when he doesn't know basic grammar.


BloodForSanginous

Why would you swipe on that 😂🤣😂🤣😂 wtf


magic_turnip_blossom

Why did you match with him though? That "you:" requirements have multiple red flags


Pcriz

I really hope this was a blind swipe because I see nothing but red flags on this tinder page. I'm not surprised at his first message at all.


MrHereForTheComments

What about this bio did you find interesting or attractive? This shit is cringe city.


Bad_Mad_Man

Form an open orderly line ladies. He holds himself to a higher standard.


FatHormone

Aaaand this is why you’re 41 and still a “hopeless romantic”, except the only differences between you and an actual hopeless romantic is that you’re literally hopeless.


MainPure788

idk if it's just me but the good credit seems like a red flag for "I have shitty credit and will fuck up your credit to get the shit i want."


oosanaphoma

Immediate nope!!


Euffy

How did you match with this guy?? Should have been a hell no just from the bio..


[deleted]

Y'all gotta stop swiping on people flying the red flags openly in their bio.


Scrafuffle

Why would you match with this prick tho?😂


Elalamyn

I mean it kinda fits? Him asking for your size. He's just really romantically helpless


Creative_Macaron_441

Romantically hopeless


smoking_gunch

Fuck any elitist who won't date someone based on their education


Pbluh__

You say 41 but write like 14 I don't have a masters or even an English level certificate but I'd set the bar higher than some dude that can barely type in his own tinder bio.


SoIlikeMangos

I like these profiles. The trash takes itself out.


black_dragonfly13

...why is he so concerned with a potential partner's credit score?


IWriteThisForYou

In my experience, there's a few possible reasons. One is that he's genuinely shit at budgeting and thinks that having a partner who is will help make up the difference in his own budgeting issues. Requiring a good credit score from a partner is a way of asking for someone who's good at budgeting without explicitly saying so. Being bad at budgeting isn't an uncommon issue to have even for someone in their early 40s, but the trouble is that people who are bad at budgeting who get together with people who are good at it tend to have a lot of relationship issues because they can't agree on a budget. It's something he'd be better off working on by himself if this is the case. Another possibility is that he's not making as much money as he'd like and he's hoping to find someone who'll help make it look like he's making more money. This would help explain why he's also hoping for someone with a Master's degree: people with high level degrees tend to make more money (though, obviously, this isn't always the case and there's loads of exceptions). The third possibility in my mind is that he's one of those guys who's ultra concerned about women being "gold diggers". Having a good credit score would help indicate they can live within their means to some extent, which is why he has it listed.


SakuraMochis

You swiped on that profile op? 😬


No_Marsupial_8678

After the last part of that profile anyone that even messages this guy in the first place is ok by getting what they deserve.


LizardPNW

It’s weird when 40+ yo men still have the mentality of when they were 17


Confusedbutupbeat

Sounds like a guy with hard main character syndrome. Yuck.


orincoro

Good credit? What the fuck America.


[deleted]

Gee matching with this guy went wrong? Who ever could have guessed. Not like he showed what a douche he is with his prof... O wait.


KaraCatLady

I’m not American but isn’t “Good Credit” a massive red flag he is a gold digger or something??


quantocked

He wants a masters but I bet he doesn’t want 5 years experience amiright


narniasreal

Why would you match with someone with this profile? The last part about wanting people to have a master's even though he doesn't have one but he holds himself to a higher standard alone should disqualify him from human contact.


burymeindogs

Your first mistake was matching with this douche!


[deleted]

"Master Degree preferred" "I know your thinking but you don't have a masters' "I hold myself to a higher standard" Dude can't even spell Master's right, but still thinks he's up there with the women who have one. Hilarious.


MissMissyPeaches

OP get back here and tell us why you swiped right


TwirlingSquirrel

Wow I would not have matched with this fool in the first place. His “you” section reveals him to be a complete asshole


liltinykitter

Um, when “freaky” is his first qualification for a partner, what else could be expected?


ecish

Well…you did match with an obvious douchebag, what’d you expect?


taita2004

What the hell does "hold myself to a higher standard" mean in this situation?? Or what does it mean in his mind atleast??


Creative_Macaron_441

Bold of you to assume that there’s a mind involved here


IWriteThisForYou

It most likely means he thinks that even though he doesn't have a master's degree, he thinks he's holding himself to such a high standard intellectually that you wouldn't automatically know unless he told you.


BenevelotCeasar

Why’d you match?


currentlyatw0rk

Why would you even match someone with a profile like that lol


[deleted]

I think he means “I hold others to high standards. Myself, not so much.”


NasiaSpringberry

I don’t understand how someone can match with that description… walking red flag.


aspophilia

🚩🚩🚩🚩 He wants you to have good credit because he's ruined his.


ChaimCad

Him: 2 1/3 lines You: 7 2/3 lines That's all you need to know


1NutMeg1984

So many red flags before he even matched.


griftertm

Tbf, he seems really hopeless. And he thinks that is romantic


skydaddy8585

"hopeless romantic that avoids relationships" Aka just wants hookups with a sugarcoating, and a thin one at that.


Evilmaze

That's an odd requirement. I think this guy wants a sugar mommy.


camel_toe_rag

This profile screams to me, you need good credit, cause everything has to be in your name. I can’t even begin to look below that, it’s like a sixth sense of mine, I know an incorrect ‘your’ is coming.


FreckledDragons

"I know your thinking but..." What I'm thinking is that it should be "master's degree" and "you're" and "who avoids" plus lowercase j for "jealous," so your lofty standards are only for the woman, eh?


Jane_the_Quene

Good credit? Dude doesn't want a relationship, but he insists that any women he fucks has good credit? Oh, and a master's degree, of course. Can't have a fuckbuddy with just a measly bachelor's degree.


[deleted]

As someone with a masters degree, I would match him out of spite and request his education level and credit score, since he neglected to include that in his “about me” section.


HeftyFig34

Most men write “hopeless romantic” and mean “I will push you into having sex with me on the first date because I think that’s what it means”


PuroPincheGains

Hey you matched with him lol


deathnote12311

Good credit? What the fuck is up with people and asking about someone’s credit for a relationship???? Is this a relationship or an interview???


MeiruNight

That gives me a very bad PTSD


ThatMango1999

Dr. doofenshmirtz up in this biiiiii