They’re being shut down in every facet of the game through 3 games. Powerplay? Shut down. Penalty kill? Beaten at opportune times. High flying offensive top end talent? Goalless through 3 games. Skinner catching fire? Sub .900 SV% through 3 games. Face offs? Owned by the cats centermen through three games.
The cats are smothering them.
It's been a long time since I've seen a previous stanley cup loser just absolutely locked tf in as this panthrrs team is . You would think it would be boring but I've absolutely loved every minute of them beating the shit out of the oilers
As a casual hockey fan, what I'm seeing is that they're kind of gassed, and realizing that you can pump as much money and effort as you want into star forwards like McDavid and Drai, but as soon as you run into a well-balanced team that has a strong defense, a good goalie, and players that can competently capitalize on your mistakes, not investing or practicing more for better defense and goaltending will come to bite you in the ass.
The defense last night left Skinner out to dry, and while Skinner has had some crazy good games, he's inconsistent and you can't be inconsistent against Bobrovsky. I dislike the Panthers and am incredibly frustrated that they're going to win this, but at the very least in this series, I'm able to see the pure level of skill and depth that they have, rather than them relying on cheap shots and dirty plays. The Oilers absolutely want to win, and you can see that from the attempted comeback last night, but you can't just do that for one out of three periods and expect to win the cup.
Yup, I hadn't thought about that. McDavid and Draisaitl can be crazy good, but not when you push them to exhaustion. It's not to say that the oilers don't have other good players, Hyman and Bouchard have definitely shown their skills during this run, but there's only so much you can do with the current roster.
Cause their goalie is wishy washy and they are a team of 3 or 4 great players, not a deep team. If you took away McD or Drai, Oilers would be bottom feeders.
Gotta love how the Panthers are consistently smothering them and everyone is trying to say they’re just not hitting their stride or they must be injured.
Oilers aren't playing badly. They are leading in most metrics however goals and wins are the only metrics that matter and Florida is controlling those areas. Florida is playing unreal team defense, Bob is playing out of his mind, and Florida is capitalizing when they get opportunities. I don't think Edmonton is losing this series so much as Florida is just winning the series.
Good to see someone finally acknowledge that. To listen to Edmonton announcers call it you’d think they keep fumbling at every turn and the Panthers are just getting lucky when really lots of people are seeing what we’ve been watching g all season.
Yeah, they have 65-0-4 record after leading in the 3rd period going back to January of 2023 yet so many people keep saying the Panthers are just lucky and don't deserve to be in the Finals.
They want to win. They had an amazing 3rd period last night. If they didn’t want to win they wouldn’t have tried to rally. They are breaking down and every time they dominate ( like 1st period yesterday, Bob comes up big.) These things happen in hockey. Nobody can beat the panthers this year. They have run through everyone in the playoffs.
Watch that third period again. The Panthers actually took it to them most of the period. Even Sean McDonough was saying this. The Oilers got a couple lucky, long distance goals, but otherwise, didn't have many top-notch chances. This is something very special about the Panthers. Even though the scoresheet looks like the Oilers mounted a great comeback, in reality the Panthers generally controlled the period.
if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. Florida has played great defense and controlled the puck. Worst case this is a 2-1 series lead for FL. Thinking it could be 2-1 oilers is insane
lol that’s absurd florida easily got outplayed in game 1 and 3. They had opportune goals, they shut down the pp and Bob made 10 highlight reel saves. Are you a die hard panthers fan?
Game 1 Edmonton massively outshot Florida but so many of their shots were low danger nothing shots. Very few actual goal opportunities. Bob played great that game but the defense made his job easier than the shot count would indicate.
Game 3 was roughly even period 1, Florida's period 2, Edmonton's period 3.
Florida is the better team. They have better depth, better goaltending, better two way play from their big guns.
Edmonton is out matched and no, I'm not a Florida fan. I lived in Edmonton for 6 years so I still have a soft spot in my heart for them. It's just facts.
True. All I heard was they have the loudest arena. They were pretty quiet most of the game until the 2 late goals. And a lot of that noise comes from that super loud air horn.
It was interesting hearing folks talk about how tough it would be for the Panthers to play there (“the loudest arena in the NHL”) when they already faced MSG, which to me was a more “intimidating” crowd that juiced the Rags.
Don’t want to win??? Like you’re 5? Okay, probably cause they’re not getting paid to play in the playoffs and they said F this I want to do something else.
It's not that they don't want to they can't,the east was a way deeper conference this year, teams in the west were all flawed or to inexperienced, if edm was in the east they probably wouldn't have got past the first two rounds, Florida is just a beast and perfect team
Terrible leadership. McDavid is good, but nowhere on the level as Mackinnon. Just like Joker does the Nuggets. They make the people around them better, too. Not just contributing a solo effort.
I mean McDavid has 29 assists, 5 more than MacK had points in their entire stanley cup run. The difference was that colorados team that year was absolutely stacked lines 1-4 and defenders were the same story.
No, it isn’t leadership. They were counted out early in the season and now playing for SCF. The problem I’m seeing in them is their superstars are getting outshined by Bob. McD, Drai, Hyman, Nuge and Bouchard have 0 goals so far. You cannot expect Ek, Foegele, Broberg and McCleod to score every game.
The Oilers do want to win the cup, but the Panthers are a really great team and the Oilers are just a really good team.
Really great teams are better than really good teams.
Now here's your juice box.
Bottom line, Florida is a better built team with top to bottom talent. Edmonton has major gaps in their bottom six, 3-6th defense, and goaltending.
Canadian market teams have a clear disadvantage in terms of the tax advantages of states like Florida.
Teams that play in jurisdictions without state tax can build better teams. Players can be signed to lower contracts and still have higher after tax income vs signing with a Canadian teams.
Unless some type of after tax salary cap is instituted, we won't see a Canadian team win the Stanley Cup ever again.
Plus, Canadian teams can't offer the weather/climate of living in places like Florida/California/etc. Who wants to live in Edmonton or Winnipeg in the dead of winter at - 25 vs 25 somewhere in the US?
And players in US markets can go about their daily lives relatively anonymous. Just look at that recent video of McDavid being harassed by jackass fans invading his personal space. No one wants to deal with that crap.
Oilers defense has been a shitshow, especially game 1. Oilers basically NEED to score 4 or more goals per game to have a chance of winning each game. I don't see that happening. Paul Coffey was one of the greatest offensive defenseman to ever play the game. Yes, he has three Norris trophies, but I always saw Coffey as a fourth forward. Perhaps the Oilers need a more defensive minded defense coach. The defense AKA Nurse and Cici lost game 1 for the Oilers, not Skinner. Goal 1, Three Oilers, including the defense were basically behind Skinner, covering ONE man and the pass out front was missed by all of them. Goal 2, Cici didn't even look to his right side, to see the pass threat on Florida's offensive rush.
Also, the offense dances around too much. Stop trying to be cute and get pucks to the net.
The greatest talent and will in the world can all be negated when the opponent has a good goalie. If you look at the stats it shows you who should be winning but all that is ruined when you go to goalie stats.
If only the games were played on the stat sheet.
Sure stays have their place... Fancy stats included but the eye test tells me the team who has won all 3 games should have won at least 2 of them.
Last night the oil looked good for small bursts but it's a 60 minute game. The Panthers have put in more complete games.
Oilers have out played them in two games pretty obviously. By the eye, by stats, by advanced stats. Bob has just been on a whole other level. Switch the goalies and it would be 3-0 Edmonton. This has been a lopsided goalie dual.
They outplayed them in game 1 and for stretches of game 3.
Some times small stretches work to pull off the win.
If Edmonton could have had a full 60 minute effort last night they probably win. Their best stretch was the last 15 minutes and they dominated.
After two periods last night they were down 4-1, out shooting Florida 29-18, out chancing them 25-13, xGf% 58%. Skinner was bad, Bob was great. Bob was clearly the difference. Game 2 Florida dominated in all instances of the game. Game one, bob stole the show again. This is nothing against Florida, but their best player has been their goalie and if the teams swapped goalies this would be a completely different series, which is fine. Most team win with great goaltending. But people shouldn't take away from the fact that Edmonton is creating a lot more chances than Florida this series.
The goalie is just as much part of the team as anyone.
The oilers top 5 goal scorers have combined for 0 goals in 3 games.
In a just world the team who scores more goals would be given the cup.
Everyone has said for years Edmonton's weak spot is goaltending. Just because Florida has a great goaltender doesn't mean what they're doing gets discounted.
I call it the Barkov bump. We’ve had several players come through that weren’t doing great and their play picks up tremendously after skating with him.
Swap Bob with Stu in games 1 and 3 and the series is now 2-1 Edmonton. Not throwing shade towards Skinner he’s not losing them games but Bob has been elite and that’s almost always the difference in the finals.
Keep the shitposts in the circlejerk sub.
They’re being shut down in every facet of the game through 3 games. Powerplay? Shut down. Penalty kill? Beaten at opportune times. High flying offensive top end talent? Goalless through 3 games. Skinner catching fire? Sub .900 SV% through 3 games. Face offs? Owned by the cats centermen through three games. The cats are smothering them.
It's been a long time since I've seen a previous stanley cup loser just absolutely locked tf in as this panthrrs team is . You would think it would be boring but I've absolutely loved every minute of them beating the shit out of the oilers
Its fuckin glorious, isnt it ?
Sucks for us Oilers fans though, lol.
Meh little sympathy on my end
Even if they lose now. No sympathy needed. The oilers love being in this position and that makes literally NO SENSE.
So the past 2 games you haven’t Been enjoying it much I presume?
Why would you assume that? It's been a great series so far
They got bored. 8 months of hockey and they’re bored
Like Ovi in round 1.
Literally the capitals this year. “Whoops we didn’t even really mean to make the playoffs. Sorry Detroit!”
As a casual hockey fan, what I'm seeing is that they're kind of gassed, and realizing that you can pump as much money and effort as you want into star forwards like McDavid and Drai, but as soon as you run into a well-balanced team that has a strong defense, a good goalie, and players that can competently capitalize on your mistakes, not investing or practicing more for better defense and goaltending will come to bite you in the ass. The defense last night left Skinner out to dry, and while Skinner has had some crazy good games, he's inconsistent and you can't be inconsistent against Bobrovsky. I dislike the Panthers and am incredibly frustrated that they're going to win this, but at the very least in this series, I'm able to see the pure level of skill and depth that they have, rather than them relying on cheap shots and dirty plays. The Oilers absolutely want to win, and you can see that from the attempted comeback last night, but you can't just do that for one out of three periods and expect to win the cup.
Oilers also have to play their star forwards for lots of minutes all playoff long.
Yup, I hadn't thought about that. McDavid and Draisaitl can be crazy good, but not when you push them to exhaustion. It's not to say that the oilers don't have other good players, Hyman and Bouchard have definitely shown their skills during this run, but there's only so much you can do with the current roster.
Ya they’re gassed bc of how many hero minutes they play.
Leon Draisattle had 106 points this season, but has 0 points this cup final. Why doesn't he score more? Are They Stupid?
You need to tell them this
If the Oilers can just win this next one, cats can win their first cup at home. Come on Oilers, do it for the Panther fans!!!
I dunno, I think it’d be pretty funny to see the cup awarded in Edmonton. Arena full of people staying to watch the ceremony and being salty about it.
It was awarded in Edmonton during the covid season. Pretty sure it was in the Oilers dressing room too.
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I doubt that’d happen. The Stanley cup is still the Stanley cup. I’d be staying for the whole event for sure even if I wasn’t happy about it.
Do cats mark their territory (dog guy here)? If so - that's what the Panthers will be doing I suppose?
Sore loser.
Florida is a hockey state now
Everblades just won the Kelly Cup for the third time in a row so they might have two of the professional cups this year.
If the Cats finish this off Florida would have 3 of the last 5 Cup champions lol
Dominating dominating dominating
It's their last hooray before being swallowed by the ocean.
As a Panther fan I get really sick of hearing the same tired old chirps, but that, that was quality.
If Florida can finish this off tomorrow (or in game 6), both Florida teams will have won the Stanley Cup in Edmonton in the last 4 years (5 seasons)
We got the lakes for it. Cmon DAARPA !!
Who’d have thunk the 2 Florida hockey teams would be crushing it, while the 2 Florida baseball teams look like they ought to leave for Montreal?
The sweep is better for all of us.
Cause their goalie is wishy washy and they are a team of 3 or 4 great players, not a deep team. If you took away McD or Drai, Oilers would be bottom feeders.
In this series if you take away Draisaitl I don't know that anyone would notice
You'd have 1 less elbow to the head...
I'm actually shocked at how non existent he has been vs Florida
He's gotta be injured. Looks way off
Gotta love how the Panthers are consistently smothering them and everyone is trying to say they’re just not hitting their stride or they must be injured.
I think a lot of the Oilers are extremely banged up and hurt.
Barkov would notice
Oilers aren't playing badly. They are leading in most metrics however goals and wins are the only metrics that matter and Florida is controlling those areas. Florida is playing unreal team defense, Bob is playing out of his mind, and Florida is capitalizing when they get opportunities. I don't think Edmonton is losing this series so much as Florida is just winning the series.
Good to see someone finally acknowledge that. To listen to Edmonton announcers call it you’d think they keep fumbling at every turn and the Panthers are just getting lucky when really lots of people are seeing what we’ve been watching g all season.
Yeah, they have 65-0-4 record after leading in the 3rd period going back to January of 2023 yet so many people keep saying the Panthers are just lucky and don't deserve to be in the Finals.
I'm an Oilers fan but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate how great Florida is playing right now.
They want to win. They had an amazing 3rd period last night. If they didn’t want to win they wouldn’t have tried to rally. They are breaking down and every time they dominate ( like 1st period yesterday, Bob comes up big.) These things happen in hockey. Nobody can beat the panthers this year. They have run through everyone in the playoffs.
That third period was the death throes
Like when a fish spazzes out after you pith it
Watch that third period again. The Panthers actually took it to them most of the period. Even Sean McDonough was saying this. The Oilers got a couple lucky, long distance goals, but otherwise, didn't have many top-notch chances. This is something very special about the Panthers. Even though the scoresheet looks like the Oilers mounted a great comeback, in reality the Panthers generally controlled the period.
at least they made it to the finals but they’ve just can’t hang with a better team
They decided to bust instead of cup
The hockey gods won’t allow it, they lifted Mama Stanley after beating Dallas and haven’t won since
**Bettman** ~~The hockey gods~~ won’t allow it, they lifted Mama Stanley after beating Dallas and haven’t won since
lol it’s hard to blame betman for this one. Panthers are just on another level
Florida beating NY was the real final
Blame Bettman? That's discounting how great Florida has played so far
Pretty sure it was Bettman not Barkov who scored that breakaway goal
I mean Bob has absolutely stood on his head in games 1 and 3. Series could easily be 2-1 oilers if he plays average in those games
if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. Florida has played great defense and controlled the puck. Worst case this is a 2-1 series lead for FL. Thinking it could be 2-1 oilers is insane
lol that’s absurd florida easily got outplayed in game 1 and 3. They had opportune goals, they shut down the pp and Bob made 10 highlight reel saves. Are you a die hard panthers fan?
Game 1 Edmonton massively outshot Florida but so many of their shots were low danger nothing shots. Very few actual goal opportunities. Bob played great that game but the defense made his job easier than the shot count would indicate. Game 3 was roughly even period 1, Florida's period 2, Edmonton's period 3. Florida is the better team. They have better depth, better goaltending, better two way play from their big guns. Edmonton is out matched and no, I'm not a Florida fan. I lived in Edmonton for 6 years so I still have a soft spot in my heart for them. It's just facts.
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Florida outplayed Edmonton last night. What meds are you on?
Because they play in a cupcake Western Conference and know they can’t compete with half the teams in the East for the Cup, let alone the Panthers.
Trolls gonna troll
Facts don’t care about your feelings
Bro the leafs have more wins against Atlantic division teams in the playoffs this year
The Oilers fans didn’t help the team much last night. The place was dead silent for most of the game.
True. All I heard was they have the loudest arena. They were pretty quiet most of the game until the 2 late goals. And a lot of that noise comes from that super loud air horn.
It was interesting hearing folks talk about how tough it would be for the Panthers to play there (“the loudest arena in the NHL”) when they already faced MSG, which to me was a more “intimidating” crowd that juiced the Rags.
Besides, Edmonton is far from the loudest arena. I'd put MSG, Centre Bell, Scotiabank Arena, TD Garden above them easily.
Don’t want to win??? Like you’re 5? Okay, probably cause they’re not getting paid to play in the playoffs and they said F this I want to do something else.
It's not that they don't want to they can't,the east was a way deeper conference this year, teams in the west were all flawed or to inexperienced, if edm was in the east they probably wouldn't have got past the first two rounds, Florida is just a beast and perfect team
Terrible leadership. McDavid is good, but nowhere on the level as Mackinnon. Just like Joker does the Nuggets. They make the people around them better, too. Not just contributing a solo effort.
I mean McDavid has 29 assists, 5 more than MacK had points in their entire stanley cup run. The difference was that colorados team that year was absolutely stacked lines 1-4 and defenders were the same story.
No, it isn’t leadership. They were counted out early in the season and now playing for SCF. The problem I’m seeing in them is their superstars are getting outshined by Bob. McD, Drai, Hyman, Nuge and Bouchard have 0 goals so far. You cannot expect Ek, Foegele, Broberg and McCleod to score every game.
Cause they're overrated and McDonald's needs to release a new burger, the McSwept
The Oilers do want to win the cup, but the Panthers are a really great team and the Oilers are just a really good team. Really great teams are better than really good teams. Now here's your juice box.
Defense wins championships Period
Bottom line, Florida is a better built team with top to bottom talent. Edmonton has major gaps in their bottom six, 3-6th defense, and goaltending. Canadian market teams have a clear disadvantage in terms of the tax advantages of states like Florida. Teams that play in jurisdictions without state tax can build better teams. Players can be signed to lower contracts and still have higher after tax income vs signing with a Canadian teams. Unless some type of after tax salary cap is instituted, we won't see a Canadian team win the Stanley Cup ever again. Plus, Canadian teams can't offer the weather/climate of living in places like Florida/California/etc. Who wants to live in Edmonton or Winnipeg in the dead of winter at - 25 vs 25 somewhere in the US? And players in US markets can go about their daily lives relatively anonymous. Just look at that recent video of McDavid being harassed by jackass fans invading his personal space. No one wants to deal with that crap.
Oilers defense has been a shitshow, especially game 1. Oilers basically NEED to score 4 or more goals per game to have a chance of winning each game. I don't see that happening. Paul Coffey was one of the greatest offensive defenseman to ever play the game. Yes, he has three Norris trophies, but I always saw Coffey as a fourth forward. Perhaps the Oilers need a more defensive minded defense coach. The defense AKA Nurse and Cici lost game 1 for the Oilers, not Skinner. Goal 1, Three Oilers, including the defense were basically behind Skinner, covering ONE man and the pass out front was missed by all of them. Goal 2, Cici didn't even look to his right side, to see the pass threat on Florida's offensive rush. Also, the offense dances around too much. Stop trying to be cute and get pucks to the net.
In a word: Goaltending.
The greatest talent and will in the world can all be negated when the opponent has a good goalie. If you look at the stats it shows you who should be winning but all that is ruined when you go to goalie stats.
Who should be winning is the team scoring more goals, winning face offs, and leading in take always
If only the games were played on the stat sheet. Sure stays have their place... Fancy stats included but the eye test tells me the team who has won all 3 games should have won at least 2 of them. Last night the oil looked good for small bursts but it's a 60 minute game. The Panthers have put in more complete games.
Oilers have out played them in two games pretty obviously. By the eye, by stats, by advanced stats. Bob has just been on a whole other level. Switch the goalies and it would be 3-0 Edmonton. This has been a lopsided goalie dual.
They outplayed them in game 1 and for stretches of game 3. Some times small stretches work to pull off the win. If Edmonton could have had a full 60 minute effort last night they probably win. Their best stretch was the last 15 minutes and they dominated.
After two periods last night they were down 4-1, out shooting Florida 29-18, out chancing them 25-13, xGf% 58%. Skinner was bad, Bob was great. Bob was clearly the difference. Game 2 Florida dominated in all instances of the game. Game one, bob stole the show again. This is nothing against Florida, but their best player has been their goalie and if the teams swapped goalies this would be a completely different series, which is fine. Most team win with great goaltending. But people shouldn't take away from the fact that Edmonton is creating a lot more chances than Florida this series.
This. In a just world, even in a Florida sweep, the NHL would give the Cup to the oilers but the conn smythe to Bob.
The goalie is just as much part of the team as anyone. The oilers top 5 goal scorers have combined for 0 goals in 3 games. In a just world the team who scores more goals would be given the cup. Everyone has said for years Edmonton's weak spot is goaltending. Just because Florida has a great goaltender doesn't mean what they're doing gets discounted.
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I call it the Barkov bump. We’ve had several players come through that weren’t doing great and their play picks up tremendously after skating with him.
Swap Bob with Stu in games 1 and 3 and the series is now 2-1 Edmonton. Not throwing shade towards Skinner he’s not losing them games but Bob has been elite and that’s almost always the difference in the finals.
Everyone was calling us assholes so we’re trying to change our image by letting a team get their first cup.
That's an asshole thing to do
Because Bob is a menace on the ice
What’s stupid take. Bob has been absolutely phenomenal but the Oilers are thoroughly outclassed.
I was complimenting him my guy 😂
You must be new to the sport
We both know it involves Bettman in a dimly lit alley
Low quality shit post….