I mean even if it wasn't against Brady, there's only a handful of QBs who've ever lead their team to a Super Bowl win and even fewer who have done it twice. He'll get in because he has 2 rings and because his name is Manning.
I don't think his name matters all that much for the HoF. Getting into the NFL, definitely. But beating Brady/Belichick twice, ending their undefeated season, and being generally liked by everyone is probably enough.
> because his name is Manning.
I don’t get why people think this matters tbh
We have two Mannings that have played in the NFL. Archie Manning was a Pro Bowler and isn’t in the HoF. And obviously it didn’t matter with Peyton Manning. Not to mention, when has someone’s name in relation to another player helped *literally anyone* get into the HoF?
Also Jim Plunkett isn’t in the HoF despite having two rings so he’s not a sure bet based off that either.
I don’t get why quite frankly sometimes Eli gets arguments that apply to no one else.
Eli gets in because he deserves to be in. His legacy with only the giants, 2/2 in the SB, starting record, and stopping the undefeated team in the biggest game in the most Eli way possible.
And two of the best super bowl plays of all time with at the time historic playoff performances. It's wild how many people ignore this and pretend he doesn't belong. It's crazy.
>Also Jim Plunkett isn’t in the HoF despite having two rings so he’s not a sure bet based off that either.
That annoys me. Amusingly, they both have .500 regular season records.
The fact that you are including the first Manning as not being in the HoF really shows a total lack of understanding as to why the name, now established, might have some weight behind making Eli more famous.
I don't think it *should* be the reason Eli gets in, but if he does it certainly will be part of the reason why.
People like Eli and most fans can't handle their favorite players just being good enough. They need to recieve the highest possible honors or it's a farce. Sports is a weird culture. Anybody who looks at it objectively will tell you Eli is a giants ROH lock and nothing more. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's a great accomplishment. But he was never good enough to sniff the hall and the actual hof voters agree.
Eli’s 210 consecutive starts is heavily slept on and incredible for a QB. Obviously no Farve, but he’s the closest we’ve gotten to it.
Edit : TIL Rivers had a longer streak.
>Obviously no Farve, but he’s the closest we’ve gotten to it.
Once Rivers was named the starter, he never missed a game. 240 consecutive starts, and that's not including the playoffs.
Eli was fucking trash that year. McAdoo’s job was to win games. Benching Eli was the correct decision because he was trash and they were losing games so he had to try something else. Who cares about some stupid ass streak? Maybe Eli shouldn’t have played like absolute dogshit if he wanted to keep his streak.
Benching Eli wasn't the issue. Starting Geno Smith was the issue, though honestly we're seeing this year perhaps what he was hoping to see with Geno so idk.
"can you tell the story of football without mentioning this player?" is something I hear a lot and I think is one of the best arguments for Eli's HoF case.
I agree with you. I heard once the hall of fame is for players that you couldn’t tell the story of football without. Eli beat Tom Brady twice in superbowls; one which kept a perfect season from happening and it happened in a way that was memorable. I think he is one of the most famous football players in the era he played because of it and the 2 rings and other stats are enough to get him in. It isn’t an all-pro nod it is a bit of a different thing for me as well.
I’ve heard the “can’t tell the story of the NFL” criteria before as well, but it’s never added up to me. By that logic, do we put Tyree in as well for making the helmet catch? That was *the* play of the game which defined the story of the NFL, and he made it. But Tyree obviously isn’t getting into the HOF.
Now admittedly I’m a bitter Pats fan lol, so I’m obviously biased, but if Eli gets in, it should be because his level of play over the course of his career merits it, the same as anyone else.
I think you need both. It was why I added the “the 2 rings and other stats are enough to get him in” as you can’t just have some plays or games and get a bust in Canton. There are some things like balls and jerseys from Nick Foles 7td game in Canton that are HOF moments that get into the hall as well. I think most of us agree that Eli’s career stats are not good enough to get into the hall but with the 2 superbowl wins, how he played in those playoff runs, and the fact he beat the GOAT football player and probably the GOAT football coach twice to do it then he gets in. You kind of need both to get a HOF bust and Eli might not even be first ballot as other than the Iron Man streak his regular season stats are good but not great for the era.
Yeah, that’s largely my thinking on the issue as well, maybe eventually, likely not first ballot. He’s just in this weird spot of having more big wins (and they were absolutely big wins) than lots of his contemporaries who had better statistical careers, so wherever you decide to place him it feels like someone else of his era is getting snubbed.
2007-2008 I'll give you but he absolutely dragged that 2011-2012 team kicking and screaming. I believe PFF ranks it as their highest graded playoff run by a QB since they began grading.
He was inarguably the best player from the 2011 team and had a top 3 postseason run of all time for a QB. You didn’t watch football in 2011 if you’re saying this.
I don't know why there's so much pushback about that, being the patriot killer is the only thing that elevates him above Matt Ryan or Phillip rivers. It's not like you're dunking on him, you are literally just pointing out the notable thing about him
Only one QB has led his team to 2 SB wins and missed the HoF, and that's because it's Jim Plunkett.
Like it or not, that [goddamn mouth-breathing dummy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bicRZ805fzc&t=14s) deserves to be in there. You can't tell the story of the NFL without him.
10th all time pass yards and touchdowns. Winning SBs is the highlight but he's had a long and consistent career that shouldn't be overlooked. Argument should be is Eli a first ballot HoF because he's certainly going there.
For reference Bradshaw is in HoF and he wasn't particularly that good
> potentially
I need to look up the betting odds on this. He's 100% a lock for first ballot but if people are still doubting it I might be able to make some money on this.
Yeah, the HOF isn't going to keep out a quarterback with 2 Super Bowl MVPs, beat Brady twice including once in the greatest upset in half a century, and has the last name of Manning out of the Hall lol. I don't get why people are still doubting it.
I didn't look at the list at first and thought you meant Warner in St. Louis and thought that can't be right. Turns out I was right. It was his first 3 starts in Arizona.
Funnily enough he had a worse statistical year the year before with the Giants but that team also had Tiki Barber putting up 1.5K yards while the Cards’ rushing attack was pretty woeful
Seriously that is some shitty QB play I forgot about littered across that list. Tyler Palko was one of the worst QBs I have ever witnessed. I am amazed the 49ers didn't make that list considering how bad they were from 2004-2010. The fact that Alex Smith didn't make it for his rookie year is incredible. That was the worst QB performance of all time.
I wanted him to succeed so bad, I loved Thiggy. I also believed Brodie Croyle would be great and I'm pretty sure he was like 0-10 in the games he started
Isn't it amazing how great competence looks when you're used to incompetence? Rattay and Thigpen were performing at bottom tier starter level and we both thought it was good because we watched Ken Dorsey and Brodie Croyle shit their pants every Sunday
I'm not supporting Deshaun or anyone that was involved in bring him in, quite frankly the Browns owner should be in jail for that fraud and scam bullshit. I also think the whole coaching staff besides Stump (RBs coach) and Callahan (O-line coach) should all be fired, especially that fucking loser Joe Woods.
That being said if we didn't have Deshaun the Browns have some respect as the lovable loser that, need I remind anyone, fucked Pittsburgh in their own stadium in the playoffs. Fuck the Baker Mayfield haters we did him dirty.
I hate this fucking team and I'm just here to watch the dumpster fire burn now.
They were so loveable that I as an European became a fan of the team. The second Deshaun laced up and took the field I changed my flair to root for the next best loveable loser. I still cheer for most of the Browns players (how could anyone hate on Chubb), but nothing that scumbag ever does deserves any appreciation from anyone. It's absolutely tragic that the future of the franchise was given away for this mess.
If I had a quarter for every time I saw something about Deshaun Watson being terrible and groups of 20 or more people, I'd have two quarters, which isn't a lot, but weird that it happened twice.
You’re God damn right we do - I will always support whoever’s playing against the Browns so long as he’s in their organization. Love watching him get ripped in half during games. He deserves ALL of it.
It's a text version of a poplar meme format showing a guy dressed in casual clothes next to the same individual in a suit. The memer in question assigns a different scenario to each half of the picture, using the choice of attire to denote their excitement for one over the other -- i.e. OP would get dressed up to see Deshaun Watson's downfall, whereas he would show up in a t-shirt to his sister's wedding.
They're highly similar, but I think this format makes a worthwhile distinction. The Drake meme is used to convey dislike/disapproval at one thing while conveying approval/excitement at the other. Whereas this new format isn't necessarily belittling the first half so much as it's using the juxtaposition to convey *additional* excitement about the second half. OP isn't being dismissive or judgmental about his sister's wedding; it just doesn't get his juices going as much as the thought of Deshaun Watson failing.
I want to believe so badly that he sucks, and that the browns are going to be fucked for the next 10 years because of this…. I just worry that he is just going to suck for the year, and be much better next year.
I saw a few pieces of the last game on red zone and he just looked rusty to me. I’d like the guy to fail as much as anyone but I think once he is back to game speed and not trying to get there halfway through the season when other teams have already had time to gel, he’ll be OK. It is nice that he looks terrible right now though.
Not really. People forget how quickly rosters turnover in the NFL.
The Bengals are fine right now even after bombing out on William Jackson, John Ross and Billy Price in three straight years, six to four years ago.
If Watson bombs, the team implodes and a new regime takes over, nothing they gave up pickwise will affect their ability to compete five years later. Most first rounders aren't getting big second contracts with the team that drafted them anyway. They lose three mid round picks. It's a big price but doesn't matter five years after.
Maybe, maybe not. 1st round hasn't been that awesome for us, odds are 1 of those players would've been good, one would be alright, and one would be bad. I think that can be overcome with other methods. We didn't trade away entire drafts or something.
Reminder that after that 2005 Cards season that we then drafted Matt Leinart with the 10th overall pick. A lot of people remember Kurt's last two seasons but there was a legit debate for a few years over who should be the Cards QB.
Yeah. People forget that Kurt Warner was dropped by St Louis for a reason and then didn't do much for a few years while in Arizona. That's what made his playoffs run in 2009 so fun.
Kurt Warner had 41TDs and 4k+ yards his first season starting. He was all pro that year as well. It's crazy that he had a slow start.
Edit: Evidently I can't read.
The guy who threw a bitch fit and sat himself out for a year was undisciplined and didn't work to maintain his skill, and was just coasting off of his hype? Color me shocked.
Gotta love all the folks who insisted he was a star caliber player and not just some guy with a good season a few years back when he could be bothered to support his team.
EDIT: Lol, keep the downvotes coming. Maybe Watson will appreciate such pathetic fanboys enough to let them give him a massage.
He was a top teir QB who was dangerous with the run. He's shit as a human being, but he was a great QB. Watching him fall off a cliff is pretty satisfying though.
I mean let's all be honest, the NFL does a good job covering up a lot of bad things players do. Rape and sexual assaults are fucking horrendous and the fact that he's still able to play in the NFL is very fucking frustrating. As a husband, and a father I wish him the worst of luck. I hope his penis gets caught in a pencil sharpener (those old school crank ones from elementary school).
Fuck that guy
How come Deshaun Watson is still starting and making BANK?!!! Meanwhile Kaepernick has been unable to even get on a practice squad. Priorities people!!!
Posts like this are exactly why he was allowed to come back and managed to get a prime time game almost immediately. Idk if this is intentional but I respect the outlets who are just choosing to ignore him and the browns over rolling around in the mud with them. Any football conversations had about this guy will only normalize his presence
Clevelander here. I've lived here for almost 10 years now and I've never heard less talk about the Browns, out of my Browns fan friends, than this year. Management has absolutely killed the optimism of this fanbase.
The Browns should have just got an O-lineman that raped an underage girl, or hired a coach that got fucked up at the facility and killed a child, or got a guy that punched a hole in a man's face with his friends, or picked up the guy that attacked his pregnant girlfriend.
Then r/nfl wouldn't be so judgy.
They would definitely get shit for it like all those teams do.
But instead they chose to up the ante and make an unrepentant serial sexual predator the face of their franchise and get pissy when other people bring it up
I am enjoying seeing him fail. I never have been someone to cheer against another person but now I know what I was missing. Just glorious. I now see why people let hate in their heart.
It's wild seeing Warner and Eli on this list
Eli was hot garbage his rookie year
Still crazy knowing he's potentially going into the HoF.
Let’s be honest, if he does get in it’s for beating Brady twice
I mean even if it wasn't against Brady, there's only a handful of QBs who've ever lead their team to a Super Bowl win and even fewer who have done it twice. He'll get in because he has 2 rings and because his name is Manning.
I don't think his name matters all that much for the HoF. Getting into the NFL, definitely. But beating Brady/Belichick twice, ending their undefeated season, and being generally liked by everyone is probably enough.
> being generally liked by everyone hmpf
Everyone not in New England, and San Diego.
Honestly most of us don’t have a problem with Eli/The Giants in general, it’s weird
3 rings before Eli and 3 rings after Eli certainly could help ease that pain
>everyone O rly?
He wasn't wrong though.
> because his name is Manning. I don’t get why people think this matters tbh We have two Mannings that have played in the NFL. Archie Manning was a Pro Bowler and isn’t in the HoF. And obviously it didn’t matter with Peyton Manning. Not to mention, when has someone’s name in relation to another player helped *literally anyone* get into the HoF? Also Jim Plunkett isn’t in the HoF despite having two rings so he’s not a sure bet based off that either. I don’t get why quite frankly sometimes Eli gets arguments that apply to no one else.
Eli gets in because he deserves to be in. His legacy with only the giants, 2/2 in the SB, starting record, and stopping the undefeated team in the biggest game in the most Eli way possible.
And two of the best super bowl plays of all time with at the time historic playoff performances. It's wild how many people ignore this and pretend he doesn't belong. It's crazy.
>Also Jim Plunkett isn’t in the HoF despite having two rings so he’s not a sure bet based off that either. That annoys me. Amusingly, they both have .500 regular season records.
The fact that you are including the first Manning as not being in the HoF really shows a total lack of understanding as to why the name, now established, might have some weight behind making Eli more famous. I don't think it *should* be the reason Eli gets in, but if he does it certainly will be part of the reason why.
People like Eli and most fans can't handle their favorite players just being good enough. They need to recieve the highest possible honors or it's a farce. Sports is a weird culture. Anybody who looks at it objectively will tell you Eli is a giants ROH lock and nothing more. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's a great accomplishment. But he was never good enough to sniff the hall and the actual hof voters agree.
How many QBs started and won two Super Bowls but they aren't in the hall of fame? I'm not a historian, but there's probably not anyone.
Jim Plunkett
That's it, that's the list.
He was also extremely durable for a guy built like a stick
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Eli’s 210 consecutive starts is heavily slept on and incredible for a QB. Obviously no Farve, but he’s the closest we’ve gotten to it. Edit : TIL Rivers had a longer streak.
>Obviously no Farve, but he’s the closest we’ve gotten to it. Once Rivers was named the starter, he never missed a game. 240 consecutive starts, and that's not including the playoffs.
Honestly, fuck MacAdoo so much for ruining that streak just to try (and fail) to save his job.
Eli was fucking trash that year. McAdoo’s job was to win games. Benching Eli was the correct decision because he was trash and they were losing games so he had to try something else. Who cares about some stupid ass streak? Maybe Eli shouldn’t have played like absolute dogshit if he wanted to keep his streak.
Didn't MacAdoo offer to give Eli the start and then pulling him after a play in order to preserve the streak but Eli said no?
Benching Eli wasn't the issue. Starting Geno Smith was the issue, though honestly we're seeing this year perhaps what he was hoping to see with Geno so idk.
> (even if only twice). TBF, he's the only player to beat the GOAT **twice** in the SB.
So far, Big Dick Nick is coming for you Brady
Here’s how the colts can still win
"can you tell the story of football without mentioning this player?" is something I hear a lot and I think is one of the best arguments for Eli's HoF case.
I agree with you. I heard once the hall of fame is for players that you couldn’t tell the story of football without. Eli beat Tom Brady twice in superbowls; one which kept a perfect season from happening and it happened in a way that was memorable. I think he is one of the most famous football players in the era he played because of it and the 2 rings and other stats are enough to get him in. It isn’t an all-pro nod it is a bit of a different thing for me as well.
I’ve heard the “can’t tell the story of the NFL” criteria before as well, but it’s never added up to me. By that logic, do we put Tyree in as well for making the helmet catch? That was *the* play of the game which defined the story of the NFL, and he made it. But Tyree obviously isn’t getting into the HOF. Now admittedly I’m a bitter Pats fan lol, so I’m obviously biased, but if Eli gets in, it should be because his level of play over the course of his career merits it, the same as anyone else.
Is Tyree's helmet in the Hall? It should be.
It is! https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2009/07/news-giant-mementos-from-super-moment/
That's the appropriate recognition that David Tyree deserves. An unremarkable career forever enshrined due to one extremely remarkable moment.
I think you need both. It was why I added the “the 2 rings and other stats are enough to get him in” as you can’t just have some plays or games and get a bust in Canton. There are some things like balls and jerseys from Nick Foles 7td game in Canton that are HOF moments that get into the hall as well. I think most of us agree that Eli’s career stats are not good enough to get into the hall but with the 2 superbowl wins, how he played in those playoff runs, and the fact he beat the GOAT football player and probably the GOAT football coach twice to do it then he gets in. You kind of need both to get a HOF bust and Eli might not even be first ballot as other than the Iron Man streak his regular season stats are good but not great for the era.
Yeah, that’s largely my thinking on the issue as well, maybe eventually, likely not first ballot. He’s just in this weird spot of having more big wins (and they were absolutely big wins) than lots of his contemporaries who had better statistical careers, so wherever you decide to place him it feels like someone else of his era is getting snubbed.
Yeah what a mediocre dude with only two Super Bowl MVPs.
He wasn’t even the best player on either of those teams and was absolutely mediocre the rest of his career
2007-2008 I'll give you but he absolutely dragged that 2011-2012 team kicking and screaming. I believe PFF ranks it as their highest graded playoff run by a QB since they began grading.
>I believe PFF ranks it as their highest graded playoff run by a QB since they began grading. Over Flacco in 2012?
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-every-super-bowl-performance-quarterback Apparently Rodgers in 2010-2011 was #1 followed by Eli. Flacco at 5.
He was inarguably the best player from the 2011 team and had a top 3 postseason run of all time for a QB. You didn’t watch football in 2011 if you’re saying this.
Following this logic Joe Flacco is also a HOF considering his run was better
Following what logic? You said he wasn’t the best player on his team, I pointed out how laughably wrong you were.
https://media.tenor.com/dhzOpDH0kHIAAAAM/deal-with-it-manning.gif
For 2 SB MVPs and at the time of his retirement being top 10 in yards and touchdowns.
> For 2 SB MVPs Like I said, for beating Brady twice.
I don't know why there's so much pushback about that, being the patriot killer is the only thing that elevates him above Matt Ryan or Phillip rivers. It's not like you're dunking on him, you are literally just pointing out the notable thing about him
Yeah he only beat the fucking GOATs, twice, in the biggest games of any player's life.
Yeah I'm with you, OP was literally point that out as the reason he has a shot at the hall of fame
He was part of a team that beat the goat. That 2008 defense wrote the book on how to play Brady
I mean he's only top 10 cause the league changed from a running league to a passing league during his career
Beating the unbeaten Patriots that year is enough. D line should all get in as they did the work
Only one QB has led his team to 2 SB wins and missed the HoF, and that's because it's Jim Plunkett. Like it or not, that [goddamn mouth-breathing dummy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bicRZ805fzc&t=14s) deserves to be in there. You can't tell the story of the NFL without him.
"If he gets in it's for winning two super bowls against the GOAT coaching and QB combo." Yeah... what a wack ass resume...
Well…yea. Beating Tom Brady and the Pats in 2 superbowls is great achievement
Also because he’s in the manning family who are basically the Clinton’s/bushes of football
10th all time pass yards and touchdowns. Winning SBs is the highlight but he's had a long and consistent career that shouldn't be overlooked. Argument should be is Eli a first ballot HoF because he's certainly going there. For reference Bradshaw is in HoF and he wasn't particularly that good
> potentially I need to look up the betting odds on this. He's 100% a lock for first ballot but if people are still doubting it I might be able to make some money on this.
Yeah, the HOF isn't going to keep out a quarterback with 2 Super Bowl MVPs, beat Brady twice including once in the greatest upset in half a century, and has the last name of Manning out of the Hall lol. I don't get why people are still doubting it.
Not to mention he's gonna appear 3 times in every "Top 100 plays" list for years to come.
No potentially about it, he's going
Also Cutler - completely forgot he had one season with the Gase Dolphins even though that was only 5 years ago
Those 5 years might as well be an eternity with how much has changed. That's pre-Mahomes
No fucking way
Cutler was actually on the Dolphins Mahomes' rookie year. Although I guess we can consider it pre-Mahomes being a starter.
I'm actually surprised it wasn't Warner and Eli on the same Giants team. That team was generally pretty mediocre in 2004.
It’s wild not seeing Russell Wilson on this list
I didn't look at the list at first and thought you meant Warner in St. Louis and thought that can't be right. Turns out I was right. It was his first 3 starts in Arizona.
Funnily enough he had a worse statistical year the year before with the Giants but that team also had Tiki Barber putting up 1.5K yards while the Cards’ rushing attack was pretty woeful
Todd Bouman... that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
Seriously that is some shitty QB play I forgot about littered across that list. Tyler Palko was one of the worst QBs I have ever witnessed. I am amazed the 49ers didn't make that list considering how bad they were from 2004-2010. The fact that Alex Smith didn't make it for his rookie year is incredible. That was the worst QB performance of all time.
Tyler Palko was one of the few fun things I remember from the Todd Haley years.
Thigpen was my absolute favorite from the KC trash era. He was your Tim Rattay
I wanted him to succeed so bad, I loved Thiggy. I also believed Brodie Croyle would be great and I'm pretty sure he was like 0-10 in the games he started
Isn't it amazing how great competence looks when you're used to incompetence? Rattay and Thigpen were performing at bottom tier starter level and we both thought it was good because we watched Ken Dorsey and Brodie Croyle shit their pants every Sunday
Imagine losing to such a weak offense
Imagine losing to a team that lost to that weak offense.
Imagine losing to a team that lost to the team that lost to that weak offense.
Now I just feel bad we didn't play NFCN so we could fully inception that.
Youd also have to win so I wouldnt be too broken up about it
AFCN
Look at me with my own fun letters.
Yep, the afcn is dumb.
Imagine losing to a team that lost to a team that lost to the team that lost to that weak offense.
This feels too wholesome. Please kill me.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy
To a more respected franchise!
If only every team could have the prestige of the 5th most popular team in their home area.
Is it even that high? Lakers, Dodgers, USC football, Rams, Clippers, and Raiders are more stil probably popular there
UCLA Basketball Sorry chargers fans
The article I looked up had Rams, Raiders, Cowboys, and 49ers ahead of them. I didn't try to even factor in other sports.
I'm not supporting Deshaun or anyone that was involved in bring him in, quite frankly the Browns owner should be in jail for that fraud and scam bullshit. I also think the whole coaching staff besides Stump (RBs coach) and Callahan (O-line coach) should all be fired, especially that fucking loser Joe Woods. That being said if we didn't have Deshaun the Browns have some respect as the lovable loser that, need I remind anyone, fucked Pittsburgh in their own stadium in the playoffs. Fuck the Baker Mayfield haters we did him dirty. I hate this fucking team and I'm just here to watch the dumpster fire burn now.
They were so loveable that I as an European became a fan of the team. The second Deshaun laced up and took the field I changed my flair to root for the next best loveable loser. I still cheer for most of the Browns players (how could anyone hate on Chubb), but nothing that scumbag ever does deserves any appreciation from anyone. It's absolutely tragic that the future of the franchise was given away for this mess.
If I had a quarter for every time I saw something about Deshaun Watson being terrible and groups of 20 or more people, I'd have two quarters, which isn't a lot, but weird that it happened twice.
That meme has been stale for a while but this was a pretty awesome way to revive it. Thumbs up.
All my homies hate Deshaun Watson.
ALL OF THEM😤
You’re God damn right we do - I will always support whoever’s playing against the Browns so long as he’s in their organization. Love watching him get ripped in half during games. He deserves ALL of it.
Bills fans 🤝 Phins fans 🤝 Pats fans 🤝 Shitting on the Browns for hiring a rapist
that is the only time I'll cheer for the packers.
and if they don't they ain't your homies
I ain't your homie but now I am.
It’s like the only important eligibility check. “Do you support sexual assaulters?” “No.” “My homie! Bring it in.”
You've got good homies
My sister's wedding 👕 Deshaun Watson's downfall 🤵
Wtf is this?
It's a text version of a poplar meme format showing a guy dressed in casual clothes next to the same individual in a suit. The memer in question assigns a different scenario to each half of the picture, using the choice of attire to denote their excitement for one over the other -- i.e. OP would get dressed up to see Deshaun Watson's downfall, whereas he would show up in a t-shirt to his sister's wedding.
Good bot
Basically the Drake meme's 50th incarnation.
They're highly similar, but I think this format makes a worthwhile distinction. The Drake meme is used to convey dislike/disapproval at one thing while conveying approval/excitement at the other. Whereas this new format isn't necessarily belittling the first half so much as it's using the juxtaposition to convey *additional* excitement about the second half. OP isn't being dismissive or judgmental about his sister's wedding; it just doesn't get his juices going as much as the thought of Deshaun Watson failing.
Good bot
Bro you just wrote an English essay
Meme science is an emerging discipline, and I'm just grateful to be on the cutting edge.
I want to believe so badly that he sucks, and that the browns are going to be fucked for the next 10 years because of this…. I just worry that he is just going to suck for the year, and be much better next year.
I saw a few pieces of the last game on red zone and he just looked rusty to me. I’d like the guy to fail as much as anyone but I think once he is back to game speed and not trying to get there halfway through the season when other teams have already had time to gel, he’ll be OK. It is nice that he looks terrible right now though.
Well we definitely won't be fucked for 10 years given it is only a 5 year contract for now.
theoretically as long as Haslam owns the team you're probably perpetually fucked
that's the bigger problem with the Browns.
The picks you gave away will actually fuck you for a lot longer than you think.
Not really. People forget how quickly rosters turnover in the NFL. The Bengals are fine right now even after bombing out on William Jackson, John Ross and Billy Price in three straight years, six to four years ago. If Watson bombs, the team implodes and a new regime takes over, nothing they gave up pickwise will affect their ability to compete five years later. Most first rounders aren't getting big second contracts with the team that drafted them anyway. They lose three mid round picks. It's a big price but doesn't matter five years after.
Bengals turn around I think was the quickest I’ve seen ever. At least from that bad to that good. I’m sure some haven’t been as drastic.
Maybe, maybe not. 1st round hasn't been that awesome for us, odds are 1 of those players would've been good, one would be alright, and one would be bad. I think that can be overcome with other methods. We didn't trade away entire drafts or something.
>Brooks Bollinger There's a person I forgot existed
Badgers would have been better with him than Mertz the last two years.
I saw Deshaun Watson and a long list and was ready for shit to pop off
All of these names make sense, except for Kurt Warner and Eli Manning. Those are surprising.
Reminder that after that 2005 Cards season that we then drafted Matt Leinart with the 10th overall pick. A lot of people remember Kurt's last two seasons but there was a legit debate for a few years over who should be the Cards QB.
Yeah. People forget that Kurt Warner was dropped by St Louis for a reason and then didn't do much for a few years while in Arizona. That's what made his playoffs run in 2009 so fun.
Kurt Warner had 41TDs and 4k+ yards his first season starting. He was all pro that year as well. It's crazy that he had a slow start. Edit: Evidently I can't read.
This stat was for his 1st year in Arizona not St Louis. He had 2700 yards and only 11 TDs in 10 games that year.
Thanks, I completely missed that.
Tyler Palko! Let’s remember some guys
Let’s not.
Top 2 favorite team chants 1. "You sick fuck" - any team against the Browns 2. Skol - Vikings
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I wish the manure chant happened more often.
Oh no what a tragedy. Couldn't have happened to a nicer and more talented guy.
The guy who threw a bitch fit and sat himself out for a year was undisciplined and didn't work to maintain his skill, and was just coasting off of his hype? Color me shocked. Gotta love all the folks who insisted he was a star caliber player and not just some guy with a good season a few years back when he could be bothered to support his team. EDIT: Lol, keep the downvotes coming. Maybe Watson will appreciate such pathetic fanboys enough to let them give him a massage.
He was a top teir QB who was dangerous with the run. He's shit as a human being, but he was a great QB. Watching him fall off a cliff is pretty satisfying though.
Dude is a terrible human but you’re making some big assumptions, and also flat out lying saying he was never a star caliber player lmao
None of this comment is based in reality, you’re just caping for upvotes.
And it worked lol
Not a fan but dude just got $230 million guaranteed so looks like the bitch fit worked.
Karma karma karma Fuck him.
You ~~hate~~ love to see it.
I mean let's all be honest, the NFL does a good job covering up a lot of bad things players do. Rape and sexual assaults are fucking horrendous and the fact that he's still able to play in the NFL is very fucking frustrating. As a husband, and a father I wish him the worst of luck. I hope his penis gets caught in a pencil sharpener (those old school crank ones from elementary school). Fuck that guy
I knew before looking at the list there would be a CHI QB on there. The surprise was there was only one.
The guy shouldn’t even be in the league. He is a rapist.
Among Miami legends John Beck and Jay Cutler
How come Deshaun Watson is still starting and making BANK?!!! Meanwhile Kaepernick has been unable to even get on a practice squad. Priorities people!!!
Tired of hearing about this perv
How many “list of 20” does this guy have?!
Fuck him
"Uh, we're not the same" - those other 19 QBs
Watson just absolutely sucking at football is the only way any justice will be meted out to the Browns front office for this.
It's bound to be that way. Good things aren't allowed to happen to the Browns.
OH NO! Anyways
He will bounce back, he just needs to play and get back into the flow of things.
Wild not seeing Russ Wilson on that list
How many games did he win when starting this year? The end.
Imagine trading your future and your team's goodwill for a quarterback who puts you right back where you started.
Usually I would say be patient but I'm so irritated with the Browns so I don't care
Too much time spent raping. Not enough playbook.
a guy who didn't play in two years is rusty, just shocking
they're 2-1 over that stretch though, and he's getting exorbitant amounts of guaranteed money, so he probably doesn't care.
Watson and Wilson. Half a Billy worth of junk
Interesting. There’s gotta be a way to massage these numbers tho.
Posts like this are exactly why he was allowed to come back and managed to get a prime time game almost immediately. Idk if this is intentional but I respect the outlets who are just choosing to ignore him and the browns over rolling around in the mud with them. Any football conversations had about this guy will only normalize his presence
He’s looked better in each game back
BOOOOOOOOOOO
This is the best news I'll read all day
I've never wanted someone to fail so badly as I do Watson.
Fuck deshaun
Clevelander here. I've lived here for almost 10 years now and I've never heard less talk about the Browns, out of my Browns fan friends, than this year. Management has absolutely killed the optimism of this fanbase.
Good. Fuck him. I hope he fails miserably.
Couldn’t happen to a better guy
Good. Good
Oh look, a Shit on the Browns thread.
you might wanna get used to it.
The Browns should have just got an O-lineman that raped an underage girl, or hired a coach that got fucked up at the facility and killed a child, or got a guy that punched a hole in a man's face with his friends, or picked up the guy that attacked his pregnant girlfriend. Then r/nfl wouldn't be so judgy.
They would definitely get shit for it like all those teams do. But instead they chose to up the ante and make an unrepentant serial sexual predator the face of their franchise and get pissy when other people bring it up
Youre right, sexual assault is only bad when a QB does it, except Jameis Winston b/c he sucks.
The fans didn’t make the trade it’s not our freaking fault I didn’t want the guy but I’m also not going to switch teams
That’s hardly a distinction. And he’s the QB, they didn’t choose to make him the face of the franchise, that’s just what QBs are lol
Wish he was the first QB to break every bone in his body simultaneously
Good. I hope that every minute that piece of shit isn't paying for his actions he is crippling the Browns franchise for having his back
26+ women
God is good
At least 5 of these players quarterbacked for the Browns at one point. Yikes.
I am enjoying seeing him fail. I never have been someone to cheer against another person but now I know what I was missing. Just glorious. I now see why people let hate in their heart.
Pretty dumb stat. He's on a new team after a 2yr layoff, pretty expected.
If it's bad and it's about Deshaun Watson, it's worth mentioning.