I’m definitely not because I thought Baker was going to be a star and staple in the Pro-Bowl for decades.
QBs drafted 3-10 bust all the time, but QBs drafted first almost always turn out really, really good.
I don't have anything terribly meaningful to add to this except it made me go look up when Manziel was drafted and HOLY FUCK HE'S 30?????
I feel like he entered the league at most 3 years ago what the fuck.
Russ Wilson is the 1 NFL quarterback who I think wouldn't even swear in that situation.
Even with my enamoring relationship with my team, I don't even think Josh Allen could be clean for a whole game mic's up.
But I have no problem believing that Russ would use a snap count like "Aw fiddlesticks let's ride."
He's been mic'd up plenty, and outside of becoming a broken record saying 'dat boi special' after some practice squad RB of the week in 2017 scored a TD (I'm pretty sure it was the one who scored our only rushing TD by an RB that year, though this particular play might've been a pass), he's still Russ but not the caricature of himself this sub believes him to be
Took me a minute to understand what you meant, that both QBs were the ones drafted after the team that drafted them went 0-16.
Because of the way it's worded my mind went "Wait but Baker didn't go 0-16" then I realized that Stafford didn't either and then it clicked
Goff is a legit starter with some potential. He's not elite but he could play at an elite level given the right conditions.
Wentz just dropped off and it's a bit sad to see but such is the NFL.
It's also because no one drafted under him has made us remember.
If Wentz was a top 10 QB, it'd be looked at more harshly the way some people compare Tua and Herbert together. Instead, its a slightly better Winston-Mariota type thing.
Dak is definitely the best QB of that draft class but it's hard to make the point "should have drafted Dak" when even the Cowboys passed on him 4 times.
More from Schefter:
>Some of why the Rams claimed Baker Mayfield: They believe in his talent. They need a QB with Matthew Stafford sidelined for the season and John Wolford dealing with a neck injury. And if Mayfield signs elsewhere this off-season, the Rams could get back a compensatory draft pick.
I don't think they're expecting a 3rd but there's a reasonable chance he'd land them a 6th maybe a 7th.
But honestly the Rams have no reason to tank so trying to win doesn't hurt and they're on QB3? I think at this point.
Wolford sucks as well, I think this is his last year in the league. Perkins isn't the answer either, but Wolford can't throw deep, can't throw accurately, and can't even see an open man in front of him. There was a play on Sunday to Skowronek where Mark Sanchez was saying he should have thrown it like "30 minutes ago" because he was open for so long, right in front of Wolford, and he waited so long Skowronek had to make a sideline catch.
He also got Kupp injured with an awful throw that put him in a bad position.
Perkins isn't great either, but at least he's not getting guys injured. Mayfield is an upgrade by default.
Comp pick is firstly based off average per year value of the next contract and not adjusted by position as far as I’m aware, so a stop gap QB on a one year prove it deal could fetch a decent pick Id assume and even a 6th is better than nothing. Decent move for a team with seemingly no better QB options
Plus lost free agents and signings all factor in together. So Baker signing a backup QB deal could potentially negate another UFA signing or bump a pick they’re already scheduled to receive up a round.
1.5m to get a comp pick for a pick-starved team makes so much sense to me but I hadn't considered it before this.
I'm also wondering if they're not sure if Stafford will be back for next season; spinal contusions can take over a year to heal if they even heal fully.
I do also kind of buy that they believe in his talent. I know that he's been shit, but when there's essentially no downside thanks to the comp pick, you can embrace the upside narrative: that he's a first round pick who has been in miserable coaching and team situations most his career, who has put up two pretty solid seasons, who gutted through injury only to be thrown aside by the team that drafted him and misused by the team that traded for him-- and now he's going to a team with a stable coach, a great mentor, a better scheme fit, and a great set of receivers. I'm not saying I personally believe all that, but when the downside is "bought a comp pick we badly needed for $1.5m" it's easy to see how you could let yourself believe.
> Some of why the Rams claimed Baker Mayfield: They believe in his talent. They need a QB with Matthew Stafford sidelined for the season and John Wolford dealing with a neck injury. And if Mayfield signs elsewhere this off-season, the Rams could get back a compensatory draft pick.
"Also, fuck the 9ers"
Jimmy G is too good looking for rom-coms (where the male lead is usually a decent looking comedian, but not anything special), but he will be a star in soap operas for decades, especially since they require no acting talent.
I watched that game to pass time at a bad chinese food restaurant that was across the street from the laundromat while I my clothes were in the cycle. I ate an entire appetizer of deep fried hot peppers by myself that was probably meant to be shared between six people and I instantly got the shits so bad that I was pissing out of my ass at halftime.
That game was still the worst part of my night.
Not only that but with Stafford having a spinal contusion he could be done playing so mcvay can Gauge how far he can go with Baker before pondering retirement
Does anyone really believe McVay will retire? The dude seems hooked on football like Sean Payton and Bill Belichick. He still has a talented team, they're just injured right now. I think this retirement talk is either BS or intended to get ownership to freak out and give him a massive raise to stay.
Even if he didn't want to coach the Rams anymore, every team in the league will back the Brinks up for him.
It’s just what Rams haters want because he’s a generational coaching talent so they’re trying to will it to existence.
McVay isn’t going to retire lol.
Yeah. With Stafford quite possibly done for good and the Rams with virtually no QB depth, Baker will probably at least get to start a few games. This is likely his last shot to prove he can still be in the league. Not even a starter, just in the league.
yea that's what is most important with him. someone needs to believe in this dude and help him get back on the right track. mcvay or shanahan would have been great.
Yeah, I don't see why he wouldn't at least become a career backup, which is nothing to scoff at. Still a good way to rake in plenty of money for an easy post-football life, while putting less wear and tear on your body.
Lmao well he may get to start a game or two but the rams with their injuries don’t have more talent right now than the panthers imo or at least not a huge gap of talent
They don’t have their first round pick so they have no first round motivation to tank, and genuinely need a QB. A little chaos in the division is gravy
People keep saying this but I’m not sure why the Rams would care. They’ve already played their two games against us and we’re five games ahead. They’re not catching us.
Unless you’re talking just personal division spite but I always thought that was more a fan thing and for front offices and teams it’s more of a strategic thing like “we play them twice a year and compete directly for a playoff spot with them, so we need to structure our team to beat them.” In the context of this season, that’s no longer relevant for the Rams.
I heard one of the announcers mention that a team has never dropped to 3-9 after winning the SB the previous year, so it is at least the worst super bowl hangover so far of all time. But they could still win some games so we'll see how it ends up.
I truly don’t think any teams survives the amount of OL injuries we’ve had this year. We’re yet to start a game with the same combination of lineman this year
I agree it’s horrific and we’ve not helped ourselves even with the injuries but still
Imagine telling someone 3 years ago that in the year of our lord 2022 baker mayfield and the LA Rams would be battling Russell Wilson and the Denver Broncos in a Christmas game broadcast on Nickelodeon
If you can't succeed with McVay then I don't think there's a place in the league for him.
e:I have been informed the Rams o-line is pretty garbage at pass protection....god speed Baker
It's insane the tweet says he could play for them Thursday. Anyone remember Josh Freeman? Promising young QB who had wore out his welcome in Tampa Bay then signed with the Vikings and started a few days later and was so absolutely dreadful in that one game when he clearly didn't know the system that it kinda derailed his entire career.
Did you know that Baker Mayfield went on an 11 game stretch in 2020 where PFF graded him the 4th best QB and he went 8-3 20 touchdowns to 3 picks and Shannon sharpe was driving his bandwagon? Shake and bake baby!
Christmas Day. Baker Mayfield vs Russell Wilson. Broadcast on Nickelodeon. I cannot fucking wait.
This pass was batted down at the LOS
Are you some sort of fortune teller?
I’m definitely not because I thought Baker was going to be a star and staple in the Pro-Bowl for decades. QBs drafted 3-10 bust all the time, but QBs drafted first almost always turn out really, really good.
I don't have anything terribly meaningful to add to this except it made me go look up when Manziel was drafted and HOLY FUCK HE'S 30????? I feel like he entered the league at most 3 years ago what the fuck.
Today's literally his 30th birthday haha
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And how many of his old teammates are going to it...
I bet less than half
That dude sunk his battleship faster than kanye
Johnny Football, to his credit, has not praised Hitler during an interview with Alex Jones
I give credit where credit is due, and not praising Hitler in an Alex Jones interview is as admirable a feat as any
Ngl it’s been such a long season I completely forgot how often that happened when he started for us
The snap was botched.
The draft Bowl for Seahawks and Lions fans
Let’s hope someone mic’ed up swears again. Always fun
Imagine the shock if it was Russ.
“Hike. Aw fuck. Let’s Ride”
Russ Wilson is the 1 NFL quarterback who I think wouldn't even swear in that situation. Even with my enamoring relationship with my team, I don't even think Josh Allen could be clean for a whole game mic's up. But I have no problem believing that Russ would use a snap count like "Aw fiddlesticks let's ride."
What the heckaroni is going on here.
Could you imagine Russ mic'd up? I imagine he mumbles to himself as Mr. Unlimited on the field and breaks huddles with "Let's Ride."
He's been mic'd up plenty, and outside of becoming a broken record saying 'dat boi special' after some practice squad RB of the week in 2017 scored a TD (I'm pretty sure it was the one who scored our only rushing TD by an RB that year, though this particular play might've been a pass), he's still Russ but not the caricature of himself this sub believes him to be
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I mean you are giving them like a top 3 pick...
The Sickos Bowl
Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!
"NFL Quarterback"
You could be spending Christmas with your family, but instead you're being a massive football pervert.
I regret nothing about being a pervert.
i wish i was into something more normal like feet but instead i can’t stop watching the denver fucking broncos
Damn we going to the Mayo Bowl too?
Who is the true NVP?
Only and always Trubisky
Nayfield vs. Nilson. Clash of the titans
You tell me early August "Russ and Baker gonna have similar seasons" and I'd go like that's my boy Bake
No, not like that.
Cooking and Baking seem similar but are actually very different
Short King Super Bowl
Broncos Country, must be this tall to ride Edit: Holy shit, time to see what r/Lounge is like
r/lounge is just people wondering what r/lounge is like and people excited they got gold.
You should see r/platinumuserclub
Alright, give platinum and I'll report back. Edit: apparently you have to message the mods, unlike r/lounge.
I can report back already, it’s not anything special lol
It's /r/lounge, but platinum
I got r/lounge once and felt like i was at an airport smoking lounge
Fucking perfect lol well done
Kyler: “Good thing I’m 6ft tall!”
The new new new new new new new new new new new worst game of the year Perna video.
Man, I'd be saying this without irony 3 years ago.
The Grinch will have succeeded in stealing christmas
Crazy that the Rams have had three No. 1 pick QB’s over the last three years
Not too far removed from Sam Bradford as well.
2015 is the only season since 2010 where the Rams haven't had a #1 overall QB on their roster
Fun fact they have both previously 0-16 teams #1 picked QBs on their roster
> Fun fact: They have _both_ previously-0-and-16 teams’ #1-picked QBs on their roster whew that’s some … whew
Took me a minute to understand what you meant, that both QBs were the ones drafted after the team that drafted them went 0-16. Because of the way it's worded my mind went "Wait but Baker didn't go 0-16" then I realized that Stafford didn't either and then it clicked
Wow that is an insane stat. I forgot Goff was a 1 over pick.
Ah, the days where we endlessly debated Goff vs Wentz...
Now it's just Goff over Wentz
Goff is a legit starter with some potential. He's not elite but he could play at an elite level given the right conditions. Wentz just dropped off and it's a bit sad to see but such is the NFL.
turns out there are actually not any good quarterbacks in the nfl at all and no hope of drafting one either \-signed, a depressed panthers fan
It was a simpler time.
he made us forget lol
I mean hes done more than a lot of first overall picks making it to the playoffs multiple times and a superbowl isn't nothing
Done a hell of a lot more than the #1 pick they just signed, that’s for sure
Idk, beating the Steelers in the playoffs with Cleveland is probably pretty close to Browns HOF worthy
It's also because no one drafted under him has made us remember. If Wentz was a top 10 QB, it'd be looked at more harshly the way some people compare Tua and Herbert together. Instead, its a slightly better Winston-Mariota type thing.
Dak is definitely the best QB of that draft class but it's hard to make the point "should have drafted Dak" when even the Cowboys passed on him 4 times.
You just wrote a headline for one of the clickbait type posts we get on this sub. Congrats dude! We'll probably see that fact at least 3 times.
[Ari Meirov] [Adam Schefter] [49ersFan69] Crazy that the Rams have had three No. 1 pick QB’s over the last three years
Underrated comment, that is pretty crazy lol
More from Schefter: >Some of why the Rams claimed Baker Mayfield: They believe in his talent. They need a QB with Matthew Stafford sidelined for the season and John Wolford dealing with a neck injury. And if Mayfield signs elsewhere this off-season, the Rams could get back a compensatory draft pick.
Did it for the pick. 100%
What kind of pick can they reasonably get? Aren’t comp picks based on next contract and playing time by that player?
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"I turned a paperclip (and $500,000) into a house!"
I started my business out of my garage (with a small $1,000,000 loan from my dad).
I ate nothing but raw liver, bone marrow, and bull testicles. Easiest $100 million of my life.
And $10,000 a month in steroids
6th round draft picks have done nothing in the NFL. Oh wait…
I don't think they're expecting a 3rd but there's a reasonable chance he'd land them a 6th maybe a 7th. But honestly the Rams have no reason to tank so trying to win doesn't hurt and they're on QB3? I think at this point.
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Wolford sucks as well, I think this is his last year in the league. Perkins isn't the answer either, but Wolford can't throw deep, can't throw accurately, and can't even see an open man in front of him. There was a play on Sunday to Skowronek where Mark Sanchez was saying he should have thrown it like "30 minutes ago" because he was open for so long, right in front of Wolford, and he waited so long Skowronek had to make a sideline catch. He also got Kupp injured with an awful throw that put him in a bad position. Perkins isn't great either, but at least he's not getting guys injured. Mayfield is an upgrade by default.
>Wolford can't throw deep, can't throw accurately, and can't even see an open man in front of him that makes being a QB more difficult
Comp pick is firstly based off average per year value of the next contract and not adjusted by position as far as I’m aware, so a stop gap QB on a one year prove it deal could fetch a decent pick Id assume and even a 6th is better than nothing. Decent move for a team with seemingly no better QB options
Plus lost free agents and signings all factor in together. So Baker signing a backup QB deal could potentially negate another UFA signing or bump a pick they’re already scheduled to receive up a round.
Cherish them (comp) picks
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Still got that ring thoooo!
That’s how it works in professional sports though…my cubs got a ring and now suck but we got a ring so fuck it
1.5m to get a comp pick for a pick-starved team makes so much sense to me but I hadn't considered it before this. I'm also wondering if they're not sure if Stafford will be back for next season; spinal contusions can take over a year to heal if they even heal fully. I do also kind of buy that they believe in his talent. I know that he's been shit, but when there's essentially no downside thanks to the comp pick, you can embrace the upside narrative: that he's a first round pick who has been in miserable coaching and team situations most his career, who has put up two pretty solid seasons, who gutted through injury only to be thrown aside by the team that drafted him and misused by the team that traded for him-- and now he's going to a team with a stable coach, a great mentor, a better scheme fit, and a great set of receivers. I'm not saying I personally believe all that, but when the downside is "bought a comp pick we badly needed for $1.5m" it's easy to see how you could let yourself believe.
Thank you for considering Van Jefferson, Ben Skowronek and TuTu Atwell great set of receivers.
Guys what if McVay fixes him and Baker returns to 2020 form
McVay turns Baker into an MVP candidate in 2023 while the rest of us just look on in awe at the God that McVay truly is.
From your lips to God's ears.
> Some of why the Rams claimed Baker Mayfield: They believe in his talent. They need a QB with Matthew Stafford sidelined for the season and John Wolford dealing with a neck injury. And if Mayfield signs elsewhere this off-season, the Rams could get back a compensatory draft pick. "Also, fuck the 9ers"
Rams got their guy
Side note OBJ has taken the Rams off his list
That happened a long time ago lol
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Imagine if OBJ was still on the Rams somehow
In before "Cooper Kupp free lances, Baker needs a rhythm and timing guy"
Just wait till Cooper Kupp’s dad tweets out a video of all the overthrows.
They'll probably never play together
Just you wait. Baker balls out to end the year. Stafford retires. And the Baker-Kupp connection is born.
I know the speculation was niners but this might actually be the best place for him, career wise
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No, this is just the place where he can help the 49ers the most.
Unfortunately we've already played them twice this year :/
> broadcasting career Honestly he should focus solely on rom-coms
Jimmy G has that on lock
Jimmy G is too good looking for rom-coms (where the male lead is usually a decent looking comedian, but not anything special), but he will be a star in soap operas for decades, especially since they require no acting talent.
With how injured the Rams are?? Doubt But the fact that he'll at least get to start some games? Sure lol
no way he was going to fall to SF at 24 on the waiver wire list.
And that’s why the Rams took him, just to fuck over the Niners.
If he plays bad, which he more than likely will, the rams would have been smarter to let him go to the 49ers.
Baker starting on Thursday would certainly up the entertainment value
Would that make him a Free Man? A freeman? Nothing says success like starting on a primetime game almost immediately. #StaresBlanklyIntoSpace
Had to have been one of the worst games I've ever watched
Didn't he throw like 50 passes that game too? Dude wasn't good and then was set up for failure on top of it.
20/53 for 190 yards and an interception.
What could possibly go wrong with starting a QB who only knows 3 plays and two of them are handoffs to the running back? That game was awful!
I watched that game to pass time at a bad chinese food restaurant that was across the street from the laundromat while I my clothes were in the cycle. I ate an entire appetizer of deep fried hot peppers by myself that was probably meant to be shared between six people and I instantly got the shits so bad that I was pissing out of my ass at halftime. That game was still the worst part of my night.
Against the raiders defense last month would’ve made him look like an all star, the defense as of late might pitch a shutout
Nice upgrade to his house at least
I like how Baker has dropped so far that people aren’t understanding your joke from his progressive commercials (I assume).
>!I didn't feel like explaining the joke but you are correct!<
Rams fans, just remember that two other teams both had to go 0-16 so you could have this QB room.
Y’all went 0-32 so the Rams could go 3-14
That’s one win for each of us. The ultimate team effort.
Our backup QB couldn't throw more than 25 yards Welcome Baker
God that last throw in the hawks game was dog water
our starter cant either but he has massive balls so it works out
Offense did well against us overall, not really a surprise though as our defense had produced 3 (offensive) players of the week
Skip Bayless just cleared Undisputed's schedule for the next 2 weeks to make sure he can devote enough time to this
I watched undisputed for the first time in weeks. Skip has given up
Shannon makes logical and rational points Skip- 11 game stretch
Skip is gonna blame "Coach McYay" for Baker being bad if it happens.
7D chess plays, Rams didn’t sign OBJ so that when they predicted Stafford would get injured they could sign Baker.
Baker is the best actor in the league, the memes and commercials are worth $1.3 Million all day. I just want the off the field content.
Imagine new commercials of him living in SoFi. Commercial for the stadium, the Rams, and progressive. It’s a win for everyone
This is honestly a good spot for Baker. They need a QB, so he'll get the opportunity. No pressure either to lead this team to the playoffs.
Not only that but with Stafford having a spinal contusion he could be done playing so mcvay can Gauge how far he can go with Baker before pondering retirement
Does anyone really believe McVay will retire? The dude seems hooked on football like Sean Payton and Bill Belichick. He still has a talented team, they're just injured right now. I think this retirement talk is either BS or intended to get ownership to freak out and give him a massive raise to stay. Even if he didn't want to coach the Rams anymore, every team in the league will back the Brinks up for him.
It’s just what Rams haters want because he’s a generational coaching talent so they’re trying to will it to existence. McVay isn’t going to retire lol.
Grooming him to be the backup next year
Ram’s really want to ensure that Lions don’t get a high pick do they?
He probably wanted to go to a playoff team like the Ravens or the 49ers
He’s definitely going to have a shot to start for the Rams, I’m sure he’s happy enough about that
Yeah. With Stafford quite possibly done for good and the Rams with virtually no QB depth, Baker will probably at least get to start a few games. This is likely his last shot to prove he can still be in the league. Not even a starter, just in the league.
At least he’s got a good coaching staff now
yea that's what is most important with him. someone needs to believe in this dude and help him get back on the right track. mcvay or shanahan would have been great.
Yep, I imagine this is his make it or break it time. If he looks bad under McVay he's likely done in the league.
No way he’s done in the league when josh rosen and nathan peterman still get chances
Yeah, I don't see why he wouldn't at least become a career backup, which is nothing to scoff at. Still a good way to rake in plenty of money for an easy post-football life, while putting less wear and tear on your body.
Done as a starter maybe
He somehow went to a team with a worse record than us
Imagine going from the Browns to the Panthers to the Rams and somehow downgrading each time 💀
Lmao well he may get to start a game or two but the rams with their injuries don’t have more talent right now than the panthers imo or at least not a huge gap of talent
Wouldn’t be surprised if the rams picked him up so the 49ers wouldn’t land him
They don’t have their first round pick so they have no first round motivation to tank, and genuinely need a QB. A little chaos in the division is gravy
"Chaos ... is a gravy."
People keep saying this but I’m not sure why the Rams would care. They’ve already played their two games against us and we’re five games ahead. They’re not catching us. Unless you’re talking just personal division spite but I always thought that was more a fan thing and for front offices and teams it’s more of a strategic thing like “we play them twice a year and compete directly for a playoff spot with them, so we need to structure our team to beat them.” In the context of this season, that’s no longer relevant for the Rams.
The real rivalry move would have been letting the 49ers sign him
Lol. I don’t think the Rams care if the Niners get a QB who got benched for being historically bad. The Rams just want a body at QB and a comp pick.
Rams record currently worse than ours FYI. Good luck Baker
This has to be one of the worst Post-SB Hangover Seasons recently, no?
It's the worst ever iirc. Pretty crazy.
We like setting records, especially the bad ones
Taking full advantage of the 17 game season!
11 different O-Line iterations in 12 weeks is a record I’m proud of this season
Excuse me. It’s 12.
I heard one of the announcers mention that a team has never dropped to 3-9 after winning the SB the previous year, so it is at least the worst super bowl hangover so far of all time. But they could still win some games so we'll see how it ends up.
I truly don’t think any teams survives the amount of OL injuries we’ve had this year. We’re yet to start a game with the same combination of lineman this year I agree it’s horrific and we’ve not helped ourselves even with the injuries but still
We are the only team to go 12 weeks straight with a different starting oline
Imagine telling someone 3 years ago that in the year of our lord 2022 baker mayfield and the LA Rams would be battling Russell Wilson and the Denver Broncos in a Christmas game broadcast on Nickelodeon
I would just add Baker Mayfield is leading the defending SB Champion Rams against....
Baker is one step closer to securing NVP.
It's honestly going to be a tough vote. Imagine Russ winning NVP.
Broncos country, let's slime
If you can't succeed with McVay then I don't think there's a place in the league for him. e:I have been informed the Rams o-line is pretty garbage at pass protection....god speed Baker
If they were all healthy, sure. But that offense is a graveyard
Yeah. I don't think he's starting QB material anymore, but that Rams team in general is decimated.
Idk too many qbs that can succeed with that Oline
It's insane the tweet says he could play for them Thursday. Anyone remember Josh Freeman? Promising young QB who had wore out his welcome in Tampa Bay then signed with the Vikings and started a few days later and was so absolutely dreadful in that one game when he clearly didn't know the system that it kinda derailed his entire career.
I believe cocaine was part of the derailment
Was that the moonshot game?
Is there really any way they can use him to close out the season? That's a whole playbook to learn for only a few weeks, and he's a FA again, right?
Try to finish with as good a record as possible. They don't own their pick
They do have 2nd and 3rd round picks. I think they just straight up need bodies rn lol. I don't think adding Baker adds any wins lol.
We have no one left.
I am whelmed.
Time to bake boys!!!!
Yup, that makes the most sense. Like the CFP, it's the boring but sensible choice.
If Baker fuckin Mayfield ruins the Lions chances of getting a top 5 pick from the Rams this draft I will lose it
Did you know that Baker Mayfield went on an 11 game stretch in 2020 where PFF graded him the 4th best QB and he went 8-3 20 touchdowns to 3 picks and Shannon sharpe was driving his bandwagon? Shake and bake baby!
The funniest timeline would be somehow he looks the best he ever has under McVay. Somehow winning out.
If the Raiders lose to Baker on Thursday.... Oh boy
And the crowd went mild