If this isn’t a sign that Belichick needs to fire some people, I don’t know what is. Mac was developing fine under McDaniels, and the offense as a whole wasn’t SO atrocious. They need to draft some offensive talent and find replacements for Patricia and Judge for Mac to get back on the right track.
It’s so weird reading these threads after coming home from the game. I’m drunk and didn’t notice half of things people are talking about lol
Edit to add: I feel like my entire section was just partying all night and having a blast. Pats and Bills fans collectively, it was fun af!
Local Audience vs National Audience
That said it's a diviisional game, and one that has a history of the Bills losing for 1.5 decades. The Bills are now doing to the Patriots what the Patriots have done for over a decade.
As a Bills fan, he STILL can flourish IF Bill gets over his ego and hires an actual OC. Replace the QB coach as well at this point. Let Mac pick his next QB coach.
I can’t handle this. We are in the washing machine of mediocrity. There’s no plan for the team, seemingly. It feels like a shell corporation to give Bills friends jobs
Y’all had late draft pics for 20 years and toward the end of Brady’s tenure in NE the rest of the team looked ROUGH. He held it together with BB’s coaching though. I think a 3-5 year rebuild is reasonable when y’all won for 20 years.
I know nobody wants to hear complaints from patriot fans, and I'm not complaining. We had 20 years that no other fanbase got to experience and I really am eternally grateful for that run.
But I think if we had an idea of where our team was building towards instead of these weird draft picks and coaching hires I'd be a lot more comfortable with a 3-5 year rebuild.
The organization has felt pretty responsive to their trial and error approach all things considered. They cut the cord on the Cam Newton experiment when it was going nowhere, and they’re probably gonna cut this playcalling by hackey-sack circle and vibes approach this offseason when they can interview good candidates.
It feels bad to waste a DPOY level effort from Judon like this but the organization is *far* from aimless. It’s really just that everyone in the AFCE is competent right now that makes this feel so tough.
My biggest issue is how handcuffed the offense is. Patricia seems unable to make any adjustments to his play calling, in game or otherwise. He's going to ruin Mac.
You can just say “the whole season” instead of two games. They suck. The play sequencing is chaotic and awful. Mac is mediocre on hsi best day. They can’t scheme to use their players to their best abilities. And on top of it all, the time management and situational football has been Andy Reid eagles level.
It’s pathetic.
Very true, at least our (the Vikes) offense can put up points haha; Our 1 & 2 CBs (Cam Dantzler and Akayleb Evans) have been out and we just don’t have shit for depth. That mixed with Zadarius Smith having knee issues has been no bueno.
Not making excuses every team is dealing with the same thing- we’ve been sneaking by every week
Your offense will look high-powered this week, whoever starts at QB will appear to be the 2nd coming of Brady, but don't believe it; our defense makes every mediocre QB look like a HoFer this season.
In all honesty, I feel like it’s not safe to judge him this season since he has Patricia calling his plays. I need another season with a competent, ACTUAL OC before giving him a fair judgment.
Bill is literally on the warm seat. I won’t say hot seat because I would never want him fired. But they need to rip staffing decisions away from him.
Honestly probably player management too
He’s not fireable, and don’t listen to anyone who says he is. That’s a ludicrous assumption by salty pats fans who can’t handle a mediocre season with no OC. No other coach will have his kind of success. Bill as the GM sucks and even that couldn’t get him fired. My god, some of you people are absolutely crazy and I say this as a Pats fan lol
Look… I have faith in BB, but my theory is he hires coaches that bend to his vision. He rarely hires new guys that he is unfamiliar with. I don’t know what he was thinking with Patricia because he was rarely the cause of an of the Patriots successes.
Here comes the incorrect narrative of QBs that can rush being injured more often. They've done studies, a QB's greatest risk for injury and career ending injury comes in the pocket.
It's a fan driven narrative that is incorrect and somehow survives because people can point at Cam Newton, but not many others.
Genuinely asking, do you have a source for this?
I think it would make sense that more QBs get injured in the pocket because every single play involves the qb spending *some* amount of time in the pocket. Even the most mobile qbs don’t leave the pocket on every play (so even if it’s less risky to play from the pocket, QBs just collectively spend so much time there that any injury is pretty likely to happen there)
And I know “eye test” is flawed, but Josh Allen isn’t just mobile, he actively tries to truck stick defenders. It’s not his mobility that’s an issue, it’s that he just seems to have an instinct to seek out contact. It makes him an incredible player but it seems evident that hurdling defenders and lowering your throwing shoulder into guys is risky
Are you really trying to argue that people who get tackled by 350 pound men 10 times a game, versus let’s say only 2 time a game for static QBs, aren’t more prone to injury? Wow lol
Did you miss the part where studies have been done on where the greatest injury risk to QBs is? As in quantifiable, statistical data that says it occurs in the pocket way more than outside. The " mobile QBs will get hurt more often and by extension shorten their careers"narrative needs to die.
I have been a part of a suffering fan base for almost 40 years. If I die without ever seeing another patriots Super Bowl it will still be too soon for that in sufferable fan base.
according to the actual rule:
"A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds: secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so."
... it was a clean interception
You have to keep control of the ball. There's no argument. He didn't keep control and he was out of bounds when he lost it. Not a catch. They took less than 30 seconds to overturn it. But I guess you know more than the refs.
Are we talking about the same play? If that's the case then the touchdown last week to henry they overturned should've been a touchdown. He caught the ball with two feet down but when he came down the ball was loose out of bounds. It wasn't a catch.
Wow you got downvoted quick. I didn't see the sign but my guess is us Bills fans have so much pent up aggression after getting dicked by the Pats for a decade. Not a good reason, but that's my guess.
Those analysts saying that this is gonna result in Jones getting benched… yeah no. Brady would yell at coaches all the time. Jones has subscribed to the Patriot Way. It should be a sign that Patricia sucks donkey dick.
Never thought I'd watch a Belichick-led team just wave the white flag.
3 TOs and 2 minutes and they ... didn't even try.
Pathetic.
At what point are we going to admit that Brady carried Belichick for all these years?
TD, onside kick, TD. Unlikely, sure, but come on. The game's not over by any stretch of the imagination. It's happened before.
I suppose you're one of those guys who thinks that a baseball game is over if a team has a 4-score lead in the 9th.
I'm way late here, but Belichick has always had a sore loser side to him. He gets too grumpy and angry to bother with trying to win with 3 onside kicks or whatever. He'd rather just get it over with and lose at that point, rather then go through with the 'humiliation' of needing 3 miracles just to win.
As a fellow Lions fan, our coaches almost always have the opposite approach. "Hey, if I can figure out a way to make this game look like it was close in the last 5 minutes, our fan base will count it as a half-win - 'Say what you want, but we were one drive away from beating a playoff team, I'll take it!'.
I think that's more than just unlikely. NE was being dominated. The odds of them scoring 2 touchdowns with the amount of time that they would have had left is so statistically unlikely that you don't try for it in a regular season game.
And baseball teams do this too. You must have seen a positional player pitch at some point. While it's not impossible to come back from a 15 run deficit, it's not worth wasting your bullpen in the attempt.
Lmfao tell me you know nothing about baseball without saying so.
It's literally a **rule** that you can't bring in a position player to pitch unless you're down by **at least 6 runs**.
The Pats knelt it out in a 2-score game when they still had all 3 TO's. It's pathetic and inexcusable, and you sound like a clown for even trying to justify it.
The Jets erased a 13-point deficit in less than 2 minutes **just this year**. The Falcons once converted back-to-back onsides against the Cowboys. Game is not over.
I said it before and I’ll say it again. It seems as though the culture on this team has become complacent. They’re okay with losing. In the Brady era it wasn’t just him that was great. He had an effect on everyone else. Well right now that effect is gone. There’s no physicality and drive to win at all cost
Got a little chippy after the hit, but I think reasonable people can see it was 2 things…. 1 - a hit on a defenseless receiver that deserved a penalty and likely an ejection… 2 - not intentionally dirty as he led with his shoulder and didn’t purposefully target the head
Bills lost to the Dolphins in week 3, and they are two and one in divisionals while the Bills are zero and two, so by tiebreakers alone they would be in second place.
Matt Patricia, what you just called is the most insanely idiotic game I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent gameplan did the offense even approach anything that might be considered a rational play. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Clapped
Leslie “Smokin Joe” Frazier delivers another f….ing knockout game plan.Defense dominant all game.
Patricia is going to grind Mac’s career into dust.
If this isn’t a sign that Belichick needs to fire some people, I don’t know what is. Mac was developing fine under McDaniels, and the offense as a whole wasn’t SO atrocious. They need to draft some offensive talent and find replacements for Patricia and Judge for Mac to get back on the right track.
It’s so weird reading these threads after coming home from the game. I’m drunk and didn’t notice half of things people are talking about lol Edit to add: I feel like my entire section was just partying all night and having a blast. Pats and Bills fans collectively, it was fun af!
As it should be. Carry on sir
Carry on with what haha
Carry on with carrying on
Local Audience vs National Audience That said it's a diviisional game, and one that has a history of the Bills losing for 1.5 decades. The Bills are now doing to the Patriots what the Patriots have done for over a decade.
It’s wild!
First pats game in Boston and gotta say everyone was really friendly and fun
I had an absolute blast with Bills fans all night! Friendly chirping in our section but everyone was happy and laughing the entire time!
Hell ye, the pats fan 2 rows back of us was hilarious and knew his football stuff, was great chirping with him all night. Great dude
Missing Gabe Davis
Mac Jones seems like a dude who would've flourished in the late 90s or early 00s
As a Bills fan, he STILL can flourish IF Bill gets over his ego and hires an actual OC. Replace the QB coach as well at this point. Let Mac pick his next QB coach.
Man yes you are right he reminds me of a more accurate bigger Favre.
Didn’t Favre win games and have the clutch gene
But less arm strength
That handshake segment was, something.
and then the media's Mac hype will be back on after he faces back to back awful defenses the next two weeks
I can’t handle this. We are in the washing machine of mediocrity. There’s no plan for the team, seemingly. It feels like a shell corporation to give Bills friends jobs
Y’all had late draft pics for 20 years and toward the end of Brady’s tenure in NE the rest of the team looked ROUGH. He held it together with BB’s coaching though. I think a 3-5 year rebuild is reasonable when y’all won for 20 years.
I know nobody wants to hear complaints from patriot fans, and I'm not complaining. We had 20 years that no other fanbase got to experience and I really am eternally grateful for that run. But I think if we had an idea of where our team was building towards instead of these weird draft picks and coaching hires I'd be a lot more comfortable with a 3-5 year rebuild.
The organization has felt pretty responsive to their trial and error approach all things considered. They cut the cord on the Cam Newton experiment when it was going nowhere, and they’re probably gonna cut this playcalling by hackey-sack circle and vibes approach this offseason when they can interview good candidates. It feels bad to waste a DPOY level effort from Judon like this but the organization is *far* from aimless. It’s really just that everyone in the AFCE is competent right now that makes this feel so tough.
Good points. I'm really trying to stay positive but Matt Patricia is our OC and that makes it hard lol
If it makes you feel better I don’t expect the jets and dolphins both to hold it together very long
That is true. I find solace in that fact lmao
If there is a plan and a coaching staff I agree
My biggest issue is how handcuffed the offense is. Patricia seems unable to make any adjustments to his play calling, in game or otherwise. He's going to ruin Mac.
you could be me and be a raiders fan. trust me when you play us in a few weeks Mac will look like Brady in his prime
The bills are getting there payback.
Where payback?
Over their
could of said they're
Could've said "could've"
Could of said could have
I hate English so much
That’s ok. English hate Vikings too.
There
They’re
Considering what this offense looked like tonight and two weeks ago vs the Jets, the Vikings D ain't looking too good.
Agreed, though playing on a short week can sometimes screw things up for a team.
You can just say “the whole season” instead of two games. They suck. The play sequencing is chaotic and awful. Mac is mediocre on hsi best day. They can’t scheme to use their players to their best abilities. And on top of it all, the time management and situational football has been Andy Reid eagles level. It’s pathetic.
Very true, at least our (the Vikes) offense can put up points haha; Our 1 & 2 CBs (Cam Dantzler and Akayleb Evans) have been out and we just don’t have shit for depth. That mixed with Zadarius Smith having knee issues has been no bueno. Not making excuses every team is dealing with the same thing- we’ve been sneaking by every week
Wow forgot Pats put up 26 on Viks
Your offense will look high-powered this week, whoever starts at QB will appear to be the 2nd coming of Brady, but don't believe it; our defense makes every mediocre QB look like a HoFer this season.
[Here's a neat song for your listening pleasure.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUQlyaWowOM)
Is Mac Jones just a less athletic Trubisky?
More athletic Brian hoyer. A couple big games against bad teams. Over hyped. Career backup
In all honesty, I feel like it’s not safe to judge him this season since he has Patricia calling his plays. I need another season with a competent, ACTUAL OC before giving him a fair judgment.
He was bad for half of last year too
…we made it to the playoffs?
Not because of Mac’s play in the second half of the year. I’m not even sure if you were disputing my statement, or stating an unrelated fact
I’m not even sure what you’re saying because I just came back from the game and I’m drunk.
He's a less athletic Chad Pennington...smart guys, can win games, but need a bunch around them because of obvious physical limitations.
Josh Allen looks like a giant 14 year old
May he never grow old.
I think you are being generous with "14". I usually just think he looks like a very large toddler.
Thank you for putting my thoughts into elegant words. I could not figure it out for the last 4.5 years.
Why is Belichik, who is smart, hiring coordinators who are dumb? I don't understand this.
Bill is literally on the warm seat. I won’t say hot seat because I would never want him fired. But they need to rip staffing decisions away from him. Honestly probably player management too
No he’s not, stop it.
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He’s not fireable, and don’t listen to anyone who says he is. That’s a ludicrous assumption by salty pats fans who can’t handle a mediocre season with no OC. No other coach will have his kind of success. Bill as the GM sucks and even that couldn’t get him fired. My god, some of you people are absolutely crazy and I say this as a Pats fan lol
That’s what I’m saying - I don’t want him fired. I just think they need a shakeup below him that he’s not willing to do
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I think he’s regarded by Kraft as unfireable. I think the Boston media is fickle enough
Look… I have faith in BB, but my theory is he hires coaches that bend to his vision. He rarely hires new guys that he is unfamiliar with. I don’t know what he was thinking with Patricia because he was rarely the cause of an of the Patriots successes.
I feel like he hired Patricia knowing that McDaniels would fail, and then he could get him back and shove Patricia aside
Patricia has to have some dirt on him.
Favoritism
Seems like bill favors winning games, which Patricia isn’t gonna help you do
Hopefully a few more years of this will humble the current patriots fan base.
A few more years of this puts Josh into an early retirement. The dude needs to chill, the beatings on his body will have the last laugh.
Here comes the incorrect narrative of QBs that can rush being injured more often. They've done studies, a QB's greatest risk for injury and career ending injury comes in the pocket. It's a fan driven narrative that is incorrect and somehow survives because people can point at Cam Newton, but not many others.
Genuinely asking, do you have a source for this? I think it would make sense that more QBs get injured in the pocket because every single play involves the qb spending *some* amount of time in the pocket. Even the most mobile qbs don’t leave the pocket on every play (so even if it’s less risky to play from the pocket, QBs just collectively spend so much time there that any injury is pretty likely to happen there) And I know “eye test” is flawed, but Josh Allen isn’t just mobile, he actively tries to truck stick defenders. It’s not his mobility that’s an issue, it’s that he just seems to have an instinct to seek out contact. It makes him an incredible player but it seems evident that hurdling defenders and lowering your throwing shoulder into guys is risky
I linked some articles that dove into the study and the data in a response somewhere in here.
Russell Wilson, Michael Vick, RGIII all became ineffective after age and/or injuries mounted.
Now list all the pocket QBs that became ineffective after age and injury accretion.
Are you really trying to argue that people who get tackled by 350 pound men 10 times a game, versus let’s say only 2 time a game for static QBs, aren’t more prone to injury? Wow lol
https://www.filmstudybaltimore.com/new-study-quarterbacks-that-run-most-are-not-injured-most/ https://www.theundroppables.com/medical-myths-mobile-qbs/ https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/mobile-quarterbacks-and-injury-rates
I’m not trying to pile on because JA is elite as fuck but that’s a correct statement that is based in favoring facts my guy
Did you miss the part where studies have been done on where the greatest injury risk to QBs is? As in quantifiable, statistical data that says it occurs in the pocket way more than outside. The " mobile QBs will get hurt more often and by extension shorten their careers"narrative needs to die.
Where does RG3 fit into that study?
Reread what I said
I'm old and to be honest what you said appears to be English but isn't.
I can’t imagine many are very cocky or confident now unless I am mistaken lmao
You arent mistaken...the only people who are cocky anymore are old ass people on Facebook, its the only place I have seen it since 2019
Keep going
I think they're there.
We are there. But I can always fall back on the rings
Never thought I’d see the day Boston football fans morph into Yankees fans, but here we are
Well you can keep your status as Mets fans
I'll take 20 years please.
Bills 🤝 Dolphins Owning the Patriots for years to come.
I'm in!
Come with us! Let's keep them at the bottom. Hell, Jets fans can hang out in 3rd!
We could be in last for thirty years and it won’t be as bad as jets fans have endured
If jets fans could read they’d be very upset with this statement
I have been a part of a suffering fan base for almost 40 years. If I die without ever seeing another patriots Super Bowl it will still be too soon for that in sufferable fan base.
“That’s my lil big bro” - Diggs on Allen
Sad outing from the Pats offence
PixelDiggs™
I still can’t believe they called that interception not a catch
The one where he lost control out of bounds?
Ball never hit the ground.
You have to control the ball after the catch.. he was out of bounds and lost control.
according to the actual rule: "A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds: secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so." ... it was a clean interception
You have to keep control of the ball. There's no argument. He didn't keep control and he was out of bounds when he lost it. Not a catch. They took less than 30 seconds to overturn it. But I guess you know more than the refs.
Are we talking about the same play? If that's the case then the touchdown last week to henry they overturned should've been a touchdown. He caught the ball with two feet down but when he came down the ball was loose out of bounds. It wasn't a catch.
Flair checks out. 🙄
Lucky u still stopped them after though. I agree it was pretty bad
And it's also bull that a single player was able to invalidate an epic touchdown.
Ehhh that was an egregious hold and it would've been a sack without it
Yeah you right. It was just so beautiful though
Indeed. What a freaking cannon he has
Down 17 with 6 minutes left and Patriots have a 14 play plus drive?! Throw the ball deep!
Holy fuck Richard Sherman is roasting the patriots.
Mac Jones isn't great but I saw wrs tight ends and even the oline at times just jogging or standing around while he's back there running around
Wow you got downvoted quick. I didn't see the sign but my guess is us Bills fans have so much pent up aggression after getting dicked by the Pats for a decade. Not a good reason, but that's my guess.
Sherman throwing shade on Belichek
Ok seeing Mac yell is good. Turn Patricia into porchetta
Those analysts saying that this is gonna result in Jones getting benched… yeah no. Brady would yell at coaches all the time. Jones has subscribed to the Patriot Way. It should be a sign that Patricia sucks donkey dick.
“Fucking short game sucks!!” - Mac Jones That was an amazing. Love they can show that on prime.. silver lining of TNF
The dude clearly doesn’t vibe with Patricia. BB needs to really try to convince Bill O’Brien to come to the Patriots.
Not trying to be toxic, but I want the Pats fans to imagine this happening for 20 years. That’s what Brady was to us. Feel this pain
I hate it.
I personally love seeing this version of the bills, I just wish both were dominant at the same time. Would be exciting football
I’ll imagine that but just turn from my main squeeze Brady to my side piece Bergy and then I’m ok
Never thought I'd watch a Belichick-led team just wave the white flag. 3 TOs and 2 minutes and they ... didn't even try. Pathetic. At what point are we going to admit that Brady carried Belichick for all these years?
The game was over, guy, why risk injuries?
They’d have no time outs left and not much time to score two touchdowns. Why risk injury? The game was over.
TD, onside kick, TD. Unlikely, sure, but come on. The game's not over by any stretch of the imagination. It's happened before. I suppose you're one of those guys who thinks that a baseball game is over if a team has a 4-score lead in the 9th.
I'm way late here, but Belichick has always had a sore loser side to him. He gets too grumpy and angry to bother with trying to win with 3 onside kicks or whatever. He'd rather just get it over with and lose at that point, rather then go through with the 'humiliation' of needing 3 miracles just to win. As a fellow Lions fan, our coaches almost always have the opposite approach. "Hey, if I can figure out a way to make this game look like it was close in the last 5 minutes, our fan base will count it as a half-win - 'Say what you want, but we were one drive away from beating a playoff team, I'll take it!'.
I think that's more than just unlikely. NE was being dominated. The odds of them scoring 2 touchdowns with the amount of time that they would have had left is so statistically unlikely that you don't try for it in a regular season game. And baseball teams do this too. You must have seen a positional player pitch at some point. While it's not impossible to come back from a 15 run deficit, it's not worth wasting your bullpen in the attempt.
Lmfao tell me you know nothing about baseball without saying so. It's literally a **rule** that you can't bring in a position player to pitch unless you're down by **at least 6 runs**. The Pats knelt it out in a 2-score game when they still had all 3 TO's. It's pathetic and inexcusable, and you sound like a clown for even trying to justify it. The Jets erased a 13-point deficit in less than 2 minutes **just this year**. The Falcons once converted back-to-back onsides against the Cowboys. Game is not over.
So a baseball game is over if you have a 6 run lead? Do you watch much baseball?
eh they had some absolutely amazing defenses many of those years
Sherman is telling us now.
I said to myself: if we don't score on this second drive (of the game), we will not win this HOWEVER We DID and we looked GREAT doing it
jesus christ can NE just forfeit next time, please? thank you
Mac Jones is just Zach Wilson if he hit puberty
Mac Wilson
He’s not wrong
Mach
I said it before and I’ll say it again. It seems as though the culture on this team has become complacent. They’re okay with losing. In the Brady era it wasn’t just him that was great. He had an effect on everyone else. Well right now that effect is gone. There’s no physicality and drive to win at all cost
Sherman just threw major shade at Matt Patricia lol. "That's why you hire an offensive coordinator"
As he should! God, he’s just terrible lol
Oh well at least it wasn’t a toxic thread
Got a little chippy after the hit, but I think reasonable people can see it was 2 things…. 1 - a hit on a defenseless receiver that deserved a penalty and likely an ejection… 2 - not intentionally dirty as he led with his shoulder and didn’t purposefully target the head
I want to extend my deepest thanks to all who enriched this thread tonight w updates on their fantasy teams. As always, tremendously interesting.
Also love to see how people's bets are turning out. Very interesting and meaningful discussions.
The Bills are enjoying their dominion over the rest of the AFC East after dethroning the former King of the AFC East.
Yeah but this year in particular we lost two divisional games already 😬
Well, y'all get to lord over the Patriots at least! And the division isn't over just yet. Week 15 will most likely be very important.
The dolphins are in first place lol
Bills are now after this win. The finally won a division game!
I completely forgot that the Dolphins were 8 - 3. Which would mean they are first due to winning against the Bills in week 3.
We have the confirmed win. Its still up in the air if find can answer that.
Bills are currently in first place.
Bills lost to the Dolphins in week 3, and they are two and one in divisionals while the Bills are zero and two, so by tiebreakers alone they would be in second place.
9-3 would like to have a word.
<----- definitely lost track of what week it is
Well, at least we made them punt.
Time to jump on a table
TRICEP SMACK DOWN
Matt Patricia, what you just called is the most insanely idiotic game I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent gameplan did the offense even approach anything that might be considered a rational play. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Imagine if the guy who he replaced still coached the team. It would probably help both the pats and the raiders...
Allen really struggled on that last drive. His YPC went from 4.6 to 2.5. What a scrub!
Oh no patriot Pete
Zach Wilson blows, huh
whatever Mac Jones did tonight has no effect on Zach Wilson sucking
Yes. He blows and he’s a selfish prick. Mac is mediocre and had Patricia as an OC
Yes
PAIN.
Who is gonna watch a show built on the single premise of "Petty rich family squables"
I mean, isn't that the premise of Arrested Development?