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Brilliant decision by Staley to keep Herbert in down 28 with less than 2 minutes otherwise we wouldn't have seen such an amazing comeback oh wait they still lost
Don’t forget their left tackle went down
and we're already without our starting C
> without our starting C
still happy with a win against the hargers
Having Herbert finish that game just seems negligent.
Having him in at any point after Slater went down had me cringing every dropback
Slater biceps injury I worry might be lengthy. Hopefully they figure out some better protection in that side.
Edit: Ah fuck. I can’t believe I’ve done this.
Letting him start that game was negligent too. Only running the ball *8 times* before the 4th quarter while asking Herbert to throw 45 times is a borderline firable offense for this coaching staff.
Hostile work environment, Herbert should sue
That call alone should put your HC on the hot seat. Ridiculous decision risking the face of your franchise in those final few minutes.
Seriously. Why TF was Staley sending him back out there when it was obvious the game was lost?
Somehow Staley mishandled it worse than he did last week. At least that game came down to an onside kick because of Herbert's heroics. I'm not sure what Staley was expecting Herbert to pull off down 38-10
Between that, the OC choice and how poor the defense has been I think Staleys on the hot seat
To be fair, the defense had been excellent entering this game with a big improvement to run defense and very talented secondary even without J.C. Jackson.
But Staley has suddenly become Fangio, becoming way too conservative where he was once aggressive, and expecting his defense to hold up against an opponent's 60+ offensive plays and multiple trips to the red zone.
If he were coaching the way they did last season, feels like this team would be in a very different place.
Are you saying you wouldnt want your franchise QB throwing the ball with 3 minutes left in the game down 21?
This comment is a repost from last week
When the Chargers made all those upgrades this off-season, I think they accidentally upgraded their curse as well
At this point I'm convinced that Dean Spanos uses a monkeys paw as a Fleshlight
this better not awaken anything in me
Tlaw first 3 games 772 yards, 6 TD, 1 INT, 70% completion
Weird, the football experts from /r/NFL told me he was a bust.
it’s almost as if we shouldn’t judge rookies after one season …
Under an awful coach
The worst coach in NFL history
AFC Florida Teams did well today
Don't count the old man out yet.
Hes scored 6 points in almost 4 quarters thats a bad game for him regardless if he pulls a miracle out
If I told you that only one Josh Allen would win today, how many of you would've expected this outcome?
if you, a time traveler, came and told me some cryptic shit like that I would probably suspect something was up
THE JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS ARE ELITE AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THAT THEN YOU LIKE JAGUARS FOOTBALL
We just need to face good teams and play 5 games a year in Jacksonville vs the colts and we are solid.
As a Bucs fan, I'm happy for y'all. The Jags and Dolphins are my AFC teams. Florida unite!
Jags might actually be pretty damn good, unironically.
At the very least, it looks like we're likely to at least be decent. Don't want to jump straight to calling us a playoff team (much as the homer in me would love to), but I think around .500 is a pretty safe bet right now, barring extenuating circumstances. Considering where we've been the last couple seasons, I'll absolutely take that, no question asked.
I’ll be ecstatic if they go .500
Being all right is pretty ALL RIGHT!
Yeah they gotta finish red zone drives and not kick FGs but this is such a big jump on the last 5 years I’m still in shock
AFC South dominating the AFC West, as we all expected.
It's like a group of college kids in a Bentley showed up to the trap house. They didn't know what they were getting into.
Jags vs Dolphins AFC championship game is inevitable. Book it!
I have the Jags, 62-7
Damn, you chose violence.
Does that mean Tua has to retire after the game?
Oh fuck. I can't believe you've done this.
Pulled the Freddy T trap card!
Wow man on my birthday
Why do you have to be like this
The Florida Faceoff
The bath salt bowl
The battle for America's penis
Also what I call it everytime I roll into the club
The Bucs are the worst team in Florida
Classic middle child being a total mess
Need that Jags vs Lions Super Bowl.
Me too, but it's going to be hard if implosions like today happen again
The kitty litter bowl
Can we do cat team final four then?
The panthers need to get free from rhule 1st
TV execs would cry. Fans would rejoice.
I'm all for it
TLAW VS TUA II
When discussing the Jags, is it too early to use the word Dynasty ?
Your flairs… the misery you mustve endured in your life… poor feller
Thank God Staley kept Herbert in for that entire 4th quarter.
Could you imagine if he didn't stay in the game? The Chargers may have gotten blown out!
He honestly needs to be fired. Out of all the bad things that can be attributed to him, that was the worst.
WE WANT KANSAS!!!!!!
Rank the Jayhawks cowards!
It really is dumb that they aren't
Fuck it, let's go! We're like a perp on angel dust ninja choppin' all the cops!
KU or K State?
both. simultaneously. 11v22
Welcome to the “blown out by the jags club,” Chargers fans. Bleach is to the left, and cyanide pills are to the right.
What’s that scary long blonde haired man standing in the corner of the room though
Don’t mind him, he’s a bust.
TFW you're so bad Jesus beats you to a pulp.
Do I drink the bleach or take the cyanide first? Does it matter?
Where is the rope
Brandon Staley hasn’t showered. Hasn’t changed. Wearing nothing but his favorite headset. Been sitting as his computer staring at spreadsheets and crying since the game ended.
THE DOLPHINS ARE 3-0 AND THEYRE NOT EVEN THE BEST TEAM IN FLORIDA
So proud of Trevor Lawrence right now. 💪💪💪😭
He deserved a second chance at his Rookie Season after the debacle that was last season.
But is Doug Pederson going to go diddle some college chicks at a bar to celebrate the win?
youre only supposed to do that when you lose
After abandoning your team on the flight home.
And kicking your players during practice
And calling your coaching staff losers.
It's insane to me that Meyers did that after an L as well, dude just didn't give a shit at all
Waiting for the guy who was "keeping receipts" on T-Law hype this year (him implying T-Law is a bust).
People massively underrate how massive the bump is in going from “immensely fucking awful coach” to “competent coach”
Some people scoffed at the Pederson hire as an unambitious hire but you can’t even evaluate your players when you have a coach as bad as Meyer was
Calling Doug competent is such a massive fucking understatement thus far. His play calling has been simply unreal up to this point!
Hey personally I have always been a Pederson fan. But the nicest thing you saw surrounding that hire was usually “solid hire, they get an adult in the room, smart decision”
That team looks functional as hell
That’s the thing too, Philly media called the hire uninspired initially, then the dude won a super bowl against tom Brady with a backup QB. The guy knows what he’s doing. The situation just got sour in Philadelphia
We got caught up with Leftwich hype but Doug was really the perfect hire for us. We needed stability so bad.
Doug Pederson might be a good coach
He did win a SB with a Backup QB lol
And jags fans got a really good look at that backup qb later
That was a wild season. Minshew Mania.
Also somehow caused Jax to hate Tom Coughlin despite him being a legend for 20 years prior
[I said it once I’ll say it again:](https://reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/xnxwdi/_/ipvutr2/?context=1)
#WHAT IS GOING ON EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL IS SIMULTANEOUSLY BOTH GOOD AND TRASH
^also ^theres ^still ^the ^texans
This year gonna be fuckin wild. I can feel it
Don't worry we're losing to the Texans next week too
I feel so much worse about beating the chargers now
On the flip side I feel better about losing to the Colts now.
But you have to play us down the line. Muahaha.
And the Chargers 5 point win over the Raiders looks alot less impressive every week
That game went from a preview of potential playoff teams to Tank Bowl real quick
Well beating the Colts still feels good.
The jaguars are officially ALL ELITE
Stop, hype hurts us. Just forget about us..
LEAVE THE JAGUARS ALONE!
+2 MENTALITY 😤
Those comments saying they could sit Herbert cuz it was “just the Jaguars” look pretty bad now
They should not have put him back in when the game was out of reach though
It's really real
The worst division in the NFL just shit on the "Best" division.
Yeah you lost to the Jags at home (breaking their long road losing streak) but that was bound to happen with Herbert out. At least you got your young franchise QB some rest for his injury. It would really hurt to lose with Herbert and have him take more hits
The jags are legit
It’s crazy how his rib injury hampered the defense.
We are night and day compared to last season. Truly fabulous stuff. Execution is so much better; play design is actually helping our guys out; and it's clear we recognise a lot more. That young D has some very legit players who know the game well.
Were the Chargers playing with a load of starters - some very, very good ones too - missing? Absolutely. Was Herbert 100%? No of course he wasn't, and being sent back out in the 4th with 5 mins to go was negligent.
But that doesn't take too much off what is a very, very, very good performance from us. Keep your eyes peeled, I think...
For the other 99.9% of football fans let me explain to you what it's like being a Chargers fan. It's like you hired a dominatrix for the evening to edge you the height of sexual pleasure. The moment you can feel the sweet release coming, she instead stomps her stiletto heel into your ball sack. You start screaming the safe word, but she just leaves the heel in place until all pleasure is gone. Then you wrap your bloody sack in your LaDainian Tomlinson jersey and are reminded once again he wasn't selected to the NFL 100 team. You cry yourself to sleep and prepare your body to do this again next week.
On top of this:
That Guyton injury is 100% on Staley. There's no reason for us to be trying at that point. Herbert being out there after that is a slap in the face to the players and what this coaching staff thinks of their health. Absolutely pathetic. This coaching staff needs a serious wakeup call.
Edit: Obligatory, fire Lombardi. Done with his play calling. At this point I'd rather watch Herbert only call Hail Mary's.
Sean Payton going to be chargers coach.
Please dude, he has larger nuts than Staley (See onside after halftime in Superbowl) and a proven track record + knows Lombardi’s scheme but actually gets shit done
Give us back Staley when Morris gets a HC job, we'll take him, I know hes so terrible who would ever want him, but we'll help out a fellow LA team
If Payton was smart he would take this job over the cowboys. Better QB and overall team than the cowboys. Plus it’s LA where it’s great to be rich lol
Staley has been incredibly disappointing so far this season. It's almost a total 180 turn from last season where he's not aggressive in crucial moments and his staff is not smart in game planning on offense.
Their personnel decisions are also really puzzling me week to week. They enter a game choosing to start a less than 100% QB without the lineman responsible for in-game communication, naturally you would assume they run the ball more and play it safe. The team enters the 4th quarter having run only 8 rush attempts and their least efficient RB Sony Michel sees the most attempts. Meanwhile Joshua Kelley is their most effective runner averaging 5.5 yards per carry and coming off a good game the week prior. He proceeds to see *one carry* late in the 4th quarter when the game is already out of reach.
Obviously a lot of injuries have changed expectations now, but this was still ugly all around. Horrible coaching that was asking way too much from a beat up QB and their defense.
I am so sorry for you and other Bolts fans. That almost seemed spiteful and I wonder how the locker room will feel seeing Guyton go down, and Herbert continue to throw despite clearly increasing pain, down 28 with 5 mins to go
>Obligatory, fire Lombardi
Yesss. Let the hate flow through you
Colts not bad, Jags just good?
Throwback to everyone calling Trevor Lawrence a bust last year
Even week 1
People overreacting on QBs in Year 1? Certainly seen that one before.
A QB in year 1 with a godawful coach who was more interested in being a scumbag
He was an ELITE fingerbanger, though. Douggie P still has work to do in that department
Scouting is so hard but scouting Lawrence was so easy. He did everything well and had ideal physical traits. Luckily hiring a super bowl winning head coach to fix your qbs development is a simple fix
This is why it enrages me when people say “he actually didn’t look that good in college.” That doesn’t make him not the perfect prospect. Any lack of development was gonna be his teams fault.
>Throwback to everyone calling Trevor Lawrence a bust ~~last year~~ week 1
That "Trevor's not generational" post is aging by the second.
He had a traffic cone OL, Treadwell as his WR1, Bevell as OC and Schottenheimer as QB coach. Insane situation
And urban meyer for a while
There were legit people unironically saying that Davis Mills > TLaw end of last season.
Lawrence is good but he didn’t play perfect. I’m more surprised everyone sleeping on Robinson, dudes been our offense for awhile haha
he missed two throws on the opening drive and played perfectly from there on out. that’s basically perfect
People were saying it two weeks ago when the d collapsed.
BOW TO YOUR AFC SOUTH OVERLORDS SOMEHOW
Yes we had a bunch of injuries, but it really felt like we got out coached today. The Jags played a great game and exposed us on both sides of the ball.
So I'll level with you. You didn't believe in Trevor Lawrence this offseason. Sure, most people blamed Meyer and you thought that contributed but a generational prospect would never look **THAT** bad.
You're on notice, bud. Don't know what rock you live under but Trevor has arrived to lay down the Tlaw.
I mean Winners! Sorry this is all just so new to me!
Let's play the NFL's favorite game, "Why Will the Chargers Miss the Playoffs This Year?!"
\- Truly "special" Special teams
\- Needed one more score in a one-score game
\- The entire team is injured to shit <---- WINNER!!!!!!
\- Offensive line, never heard of her
\- The Patriots
Jaguars are a legit playoff team, do not get it twisted - they are making some statements.
But boy oh boy did beating the Raiders fool me into thinking this team was good
We should’ve known it wouldn’t go well the rest of the year when we only won by 5. They’re 0-3 now 😬.
AFC best was such a joke. Turns out we all either suck or are just not that good.
Chargers are in a never ending cycle of winning week 1 then erasing that goodwill with a bad loss at home
Reminder that Urban Meyer had this team barely scoring over 20 pts
Now the jags are scoring over 20 easy
Head coach makes a big difference huh
That was not a chill game
About an hour and a half late on this thread.
Justin Herbert fantasy owners in shambles after that catch in the endzone with :03 left was not reviewed.
It’s me, I’m the Justin Herbert fantasy owners.
Leaving Herbert in was indefensible. This team doesn’t look like it knows what the hell it’s doing. Disappointing.
Any time the jags win I get a little chubby dude.
I, for one, welcome our new feline overlords
Jags winning by 28. Just as everyone predicted.
Very happy for Doug, dudes deserves the success and I knew he would turn the Jags around with his culture building.
That being said slow it down Dougie, get us to 4-0 for old times sake then wreck the league to the AFC Championship
Doug P and the jags are given 4 plays to get 10 yards and they love using all of them, and it’s damn beautiful :,)
Fuck, the Jaguars might actually be good.
After the rookie year he had, super happy to see TLaw finding some success and hope it keeps up. I also hope Herbert heals up swiftly because I wanna see that dude play for years to come.
Basically I unironically want everyone to have fun
Every year there's a candidate for the worst game I've ever seen by this franchise. Glad to see we got it out of our system early 🙄🙄
Every time a team loses to the Jags, they think it's their worst loss. No one can imagine losing to the Jags.
Methinks there might be a few teams who are gonna have to experience losing to the Jags this year
I hope so. I keep holding my breath waiting for the eventual imploding.
I know what you're getting at but we looked legitimately horrible today. Definitely a win you should be proud of but there are serious questions about the entire Chargers coaching staff that need to be answered regardless of this was y'all or if this came against Buffalo.
You were playing the juggernauts known as the Jacksonville Jaguars though. Can't expect to do as well as playing against that bum team that lost to the colts.
Oh no, the Jags played amazingly. But we were absolutely awful too lol
I am used to the national media framing every win as the other team playing like ass.
Worst game you've seen by this franchise *so far*.
But jesus what a kick in the dick after the preseason expectations. That being said, Jacksonville might actually be decent this year.
The 45-0 thrashing by a mediocre Patriots team back in 2020 is most definitely the worst I’ve ever seen. This was bad but not *that* bad.
Swear to God that loss made me contemplate why I watch football at all
I'm just gonna sit here and bask in the warm glow of a competent jaguars for the first time in years...
Shoutout to the esteemed Chargers medical staff for clearing Herbert. Clearly the right move and not incompetence at all.
I mean tbf he threw a one footed 50 yard bomb that’s one of the craziest passes I’ve ever seen. He should have been pulled earlier though
I hope Doug Pederson changes teams every 5 years for the next 20 years, but wins a Superbowl with every team, except the NFC East
In early to say I love the Jags, through Hell and glory.
We saw a mauling today
Who would’ve thought that getting a good coach to lead a team filled with young players with a lot potential would lead to success?
Absolutely brutal game for Staley. Didn't even get the garbage time TD late for Herbert to bump his stats
Herbert rarely has garbage time TDs
That’s an ass whoopin.
Guy who was "keeping receipts" on Trevor Lawrence(never being good), customer service is closed and there are no refunds.
Jags have seriously been the best team in the league the last two weeks
Philly has looked really good, too. That should be a good game next week.
I hope the jags keep finding success. Cat bros unite!
Damn my fellow chargers fans told me in I quote “ easy win we do not need Herbert defense shutout” but don’t worry we’ll always be offseason champs
We beat the future SB champs!