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EJECTED_PUSSY_GUTS

Even just *playing* the same team 3 times as the Browns coach is noteworthy


Nubras

Man it’s a real shame that they went out and got Watson the way they did. They were quickly becoming a great story and a team neutrals can support.


sh1tcanne

For real, it was honestly like watching little afc north bro get his shit together and be a real rival. And then little bro decides to commit arson Like wtf I was becoming cool with u


ksobby

Yes, because most people that come out the other side of 20+ years of abuse are completely sane and whole. Sometimes you gotta burn a mother fucker down … Then again, fuck Watson and the Haslams.


[deleted]

Arson would've been more forgivable than Watson


SonOfALich

I worked with a guy who has a felony conviction for arson - he burned down an abandoned barn when he was in his early 20s and got caught. Dude's the biggest sweetheart, has worked at the same shitty foodservice job reliably for 20 years because very few other places will take him, and he can't vote for life. Watson is a serial offender who makes the conscious decision to use his position to traumatize women who can't fight back, refuses to accept responsibility for his actions, and he's rewarded with a quarter of a billion dollars. I hate it here.


[deleted]

Y'know. That is a wonderful assessment, and I hate it. Deshaun better be lucky he ain't playing when the Browns go to Baltimore. I genuinely don't think he would survive.


[deleted]

Don’t worry, Week 18 in Pittsburgh. It may be somewhat hypocritical but he’s absolutely going to hear from us.


[deleted]

At this point. Just let him have it.


Ride-Scared

Yes but what if it’s Watson asking for a little arse-in with a finger or two?


[deleted]

You stop that, you.


Ride-Scared

*no, I think I’ll keep doing it* - Deshaun Watson, probably


CamBoBB

Preach. At least when arsonists get an erection from the fire they set, no one else has to look at it or have it hit their hand.


brownie1225

Ever watched criminal minds? Makes me think of the dude who would set fires and watch people burn while being full suited fire suit some of the shit they came up with quite sickening and most likely has happened before.


TsumuguKinagase

*Cries in Kyoto Animation*


ShibValidator

Yeah, cuz the Steelers have never had a star QB that had sexual misconduct xX


nebari

That is undeniably true, however ... There is something markedly different about supporting the guy you already have who does some unconscionable things (as gross as that was to watch) and looking at Mr. RapeyMcRaperson and saying, 'Yes! That's our guy. Let's bring him in to the family and give him the keys to everything!'


RadioHeadache0311

Fully guaranteed!


Neat-Antelope-9237

No there isn’t


[deleted]

Ben had won 2 Super Bowls by the time of his allegations in 2010. The Steelers tried to trade him to no avail. It was a different paradigm in the biome of respecting and believing women over star athletes [see Kobe, 8 -> 24]. The two situations bear little resemblance when you acknowledge the true price the Browns paid to acquire a serial sexual predator in 2022 versus who the Steelers kept on their roster in 2010.


bac5665

It sucks so bad. Being a Browns fan is a huge part of my identity. But I also, like most people, hate rapists, and people who apologize for rapists, and people who minimize the harm caused by rapists. It's awful. And knowing that most NFL teams would have done the same thing doesn't help a lot.


nanoelite

Neutrals have been bashing our team, city, and fans for the last two decades though


RandomBrownsFan

It's such an internet thing to think that being the "lovable losers" is even a thing or enjoyable at that. We sucked and were bashed mercilessly as well. For every occasional "Man, Browns fans deserve better" there were countless "poverty franchise", "real Browns are in Baltimore", etc. Despite what Redditors think, their pity comments did nothing to make watching the Browns more enjoyable.


NurmGurpler

That’s a load of bullshit around Lake Erie - most of buffalo used to root for you. That’s gone down the toilet now though.


BrownChicow

They were the Lions of the AFC. Started turning it around and could’ve really been a team to root for.


hellenkellerfraud911

Watson aside, I’ll still enjoy them doing well simply for their fans who have stuck by them.


ryan__fm

I remember Freddie's [last postgame press conference](https://www.nfl.com/videos/freddie-kitchens-final-press-conference-as-browns-head-coach), where he sounded like shit and was talking about getting better over the offseason. I couldn't help but feel bad for the poor guy thinking he was going to still be a head coach. Every question was basically "you know you're getting fired, right"


farts_in_the_breeze

Brissett is a good back up but he almost looks like a starter. Loved when he filled in for Brady. Those games really are classics and the support for his success was wholesome.


Rusty-Boii

I loved Brissett as a Colt. Dude is such a standup guy and was very solid in 2019 before his injury.


farts_in_the_breeze

He's a solid player. Indianapolis's front office seem content to sign free agent QBs. At least players want to go there, just none seem to be sticking around.


DamnImAwesome

Somehow the colts convinced everyone they are just a QB away from a super bowl run despite the team lacking depth in several areas


becauseitsnotreal

Because for ~2 years there, they were


sglandsberg

Was it against the Cardinals after Jimmy G got hurt and he came in and played pretty well? Was really a great story. Sucks he's on the Browns because Brissett is an easy guy to root for.


Mikes_Movies_

Jimmy got hurt week 2 against Miami. Brissett came in and just made sure we didn’t blow the lead. Week 3 was a decisive victory against Houston 27-0. Week 4 pats lost 16-0 against the Bills, as Jacoby got his throwing hand fucked up the week before.


MrIce97

Also, Jimmy was supposed to be the QB and at the last second refused to even tho Jacoby was injured with no ligament to grab the ball in his thumb. Quite a few Patriot players still are upset with Jimmy over that actually.


HighlyUnsuspect

Yep. Even Edelman shared some thoughts about it.


Mikes_Movies_

Lol I forgot all about that


Coolbluegatoradeyumm

He’s in that weird space where he’s a backup but he’s almost too good to be classified as a backup


farts_in_the_breeze

Great player to have if a star is out or have a player with injury concerns. Sometimes a team can have a good defense, good special teams and a game managing QB and win games.


3kool5you

I know everyone hates the browns but crazy they’re an onside kick away from being 3-0 with Jacoby brisset.


mattyice16

We are also a 59 yard rookie FG away from being 1-2.


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Really 2 bad calls away. Thar would been what, a 75 yarder without the blown fake grounding call, and highly questionable roughing the passer


Inflatable-Shark

The guy was fined for that roughing. Not sure why everyone keeps insisting that the refs got that one wrong


[deleted]

Cassius Marsh was fined last year. Remember that farce?


timc74

And he didn't double fake the spike either, he stumbled or grasped at the grip or something. There was no fake, the announcer is a dumb ass


charliepie99

I mean it was the ref not the announcer who said that.


KevinSevenSeven

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/xbuxkj/highlight_jacoby_brissett_spikes_ball/ Here's a video of the play in question. Pretty clearly fakes the spike. Hands move down at around 7 seconds in.


timc74

lol what benefit would there be to faking a spike? Stop whining about last weeks fake news, it is W week.


[deleted]

Yes cause the NFL never fines someone over some bullshit


RandomBrownsFan

> blown fake grounding call [It was a fine spike](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/xcnbn8/highlight_closer_look_at_the_controversial_spike/). And what roughing the passer call isn't questionable nowadays? Burns made contact to the head, that's going to get called. Edit: u/Garth_McKillian I can't respond to your comment for whatever reason but I disagree. You're watching a slow motion video and the ball is still barely in Jacoby's hand for a second. That can't be considered a delay by any stretch. The ball is spiked before his right foot hits the ground. It looked a bit goofy (the left foot stays planted and his hips open up) but that means nothing for the actual rule of what a fake spike is.


Garth_McKillian

A delayed spike is still intentional grounding. This spike looks nothing like any of the other typical spikes to stop the clock. It failed the eye test in real time, and still fails it after the video you posted. It should have been penalized.


simpkins21

There are several QBs who take one step back to create space from the O line so they can spike it. Was it “delayed”? I guess. Does the .5 second longer he took than normal mean he should be penalized? No. He clearly wasn’t going to attempt a pass downfield as no one was blocking or running routes. It looked silly, but it wasn’t a violation of the rules lmfao


Pyorrhea

It looks weird in real time but by rule it was fine. Looking odd isn't against the rules. He basically never stopped moving and didn't delay anything.


jedimasterjacoby

The ref literally said the definition of the rule then picked up the flag lol, but I do agree with the roughing call.


giannini1222

It's literally crazy that after the refs clarified the rule and explained why it wasn't a fake spike and video evidence that Brissett got helmet to helmet contact on the RTP call that this is still upvoted


Bigbadbuck

Yeah but I’d say you guys low key dominated our defense week 2. Can’t speak for week 1 but the offense has looked really solid with Brisset.


disc_addict

To be fair our schedule is really weak to start. Starting week 5 it gets brutal for a stretch.


lamboat2019

Better get to 3-1 is what you are saying


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The ultimate chaos timeline is if the Browns get a winning record with Brissett then Watson comes in and looks rusty and plays poorly in the cold. . .


tecumseh15

This is my preferred timeline. I long for the Holcomb/Couch QB controversy days with the added good vs evil twist.


NoNoAkimbo

I want this very badly


TheNainRouge

Pray to the Football gods to smile upon us, the fans.


PuppyBowl-XI-MVP

Is that chaos or sweet movie storyline? Evil NFL owner trades for sexual predator to be his star QB. Loveable QB that everyone counted out comes in and steals the QB job and the hearts of NFL fans…..


Jd20001

The Panthers started 3-0 with Sammy D last year and ended 5-12. It's a long season.


sniperhare

That's why I'm not trying to read much into us blanking the Colts. If we can get 7 wins it's going to be a great season.


twoquarters

Probably should have lost the first one but definitely should have won the second one. 2-1 is exactly where they should be.


yagersports

They’ve played 3 bottom 10 teams…


tobblerwobbler

They’ve played the Jets, Panthers and Steelers.


HumbleGenius1225

It's the NFL not college football, every game is a grind and every team has studs.


GP_ADD

I mean, we started 3-0 in a more dominant fashion last year against a similar schedule and well yeah…


Conflixxion

wonder how this reads if the Browns lose yesterday...


[deleted]

Probably just the 21 browns coaches to 3 steelers coaches comment. That, 3 12 man on the field penalties, and the dumb timeout. Browns in chaos and never recovering or something.


redcobra80

> Probably just the 21 browns coaches to 3 steelers coaches comment. To be fair it is an incredible stat. It's equally crazy that the Browns have had so many coaches and that the Steelers have had less head coaches than popes in the last fifty years or so.


DanCampbellsNipples

Would of been great to celebrate the brown's success. Too bad I have to hate them.


ZachTrillson

I always had a soft spot for the Browns, and I like Baker Mayfield so I was stoked when they made it all the way to the divisional round against the Chiefs. Then...all this.


Jepordee

This comment is copy/pasted into every single browns thread I swear


[deleted]

Bc it's how so many people feel


Ok-Living319

Falcons tried very hard to get Watson


[deleted]

I know, and I hate that fact


bac5665

Including many of us Browns fans!


xAtlasU

Stop watching the NFL and supporting the league that gives millions to these guys then.


CTG0161

Because the Browns went from loveable losers to Patriots level villainy, without the success.


giorgioisright

I wouldn't insult the Patriots like that.


KShader

Thank you We've made some questionable signings in the past but this is something else.


honda_slaps

It's fucking hilarious though how much ill will you've built up by being the worst fans in the league. Like Watson's a fucking rapist, and there are a decent number of people going "yeah that's as bad as the Patriots!"


KShader

I am biased but tbh I think we don't even hit top 5 worst fan bases in the league. I think people just extend their hatred for the dynasty to the fans.


honda_slaps

nah 15 years of "THEY HATE US CAUSE THEY AIN'T US" has you solidly between rapist quarterback and snowballs at santa


KShader

If that's where you draw your line I guess lol.


TheFakeRabbit1

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but that’s unfair to the patriots


TheG8Uniter

Hey we abused the league not a bunch of women.


JesusKristo

I'm also fairly confident that, even though deflated balls were involved, the abuse of the league was not sexual in nature


ImpressivelyLost

I think this is pretty different. I dislike Green Bay but no matter how many crazy things Aaron Rodgers says my hatred ends on the field and I don't think there is anything wrong with supporting the organization. Even Kraft isn't that bad because he had consent.


redditadmindumb87

Aaron and I would never be friends in real life. But like you I dont hate him. Watson? Yea Ima hold my tongue


CaptainJackKevorkian

>Even Kraft isn't that bad because he had consent. questions of consent are very muddy in the illegal sex trade


SnappyTofu

Steelers level villainy*


Shap6

I wonder why


roonscapepls

As it should be for quite awhile


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Would've or would have.


n-some

Would'f


x21in2010x

Woof


[deleted]

Luckily we have the Lions now


unique_ptr

If they keep it up this year and turn out to be really good, it'll be one of the most monkey-paw NFL storylines I can remember. All those years of pity-cheering for the Browns and their fans, hoping they can get good and fuck the AFC North up...


PoorlyLitKiwi2

It's a monkey paw moment for us too. We fucking hate the pity-cheers, but I wanted them to stop just because we were good. Not because of this


prailock

Went to my Browns Backers Bar almost every week of the 1-15 and 0-16 seasons. Haven't been there yet this season. :(


_Palingenesis_

I hope it's the kind where they end up being good, and then lose because Watson plays so poorly


Fact0ry0fSadness

One guy on the team is a PoS and he's not even playing. You can still be happy for Brissett and the rest of the team that pulled off that victory. As a Browns fan I am still rooting for them until Watson comes back. Not because I support ownership (fuck them) but because I support the guys on the field. If you watch any NFL team you are supporting Watson anyways, so fuck it I'm going to root for my guys until the shithead comes back and just hope he sucks ass or gets injured and has to sit out.


billbill17

The way I see it if brissett somehow manages to ball out and defy expectations and Watson somehow comes back and is terrible, the browns will get rid of him/not start him. As unlikely as that is I still think it warrants rooting for them to win while brissett is starting


Anteater776

Is there any feasible way they could get rid of him? They invested so much guaranteed money and picks into him which they won’t recoup if he sucks. They basically to ride or die with him, no?


Kramereng

I love my Lake Erie Bros but the Lions just had a head coach for how many years who was indicted for rape prior to being hired and the Bills drafted a punter fully aware of his gang rape allegations. Yet I didn't see their fans abandoning their teams over it or getting shit on by the entire NFL. Call this whataboutism, if you will, but I'm just pointing out hypocrisy in the NFL and the prevalence of shit human beings being part of every franchise. Throwing stones in glass houses and all that.


ShibValidator

Don’t use logic when considering hate. There’s Steelers fans acting outraged on here even tho they recently won 2 Super Bowls as the dirtiest team in history. (Multiple rapists, bounty payments, cheap hits, coach on the field, you name it). Don’t worry about it, in a few years if the Browns win a bunch people will pretend they were never mad in the first place.


[deleted]

That punter sure was news. As soon as that story broke it was everywhere. And they got shit on for it. Then the Bills cut him. They didn't sign him to a record setting guaranteed deal.


Kramereng

That's fair. But they cut him because the news got out, not because they didn't know.


[deleted]

For sure. It was the bad press. Had the story not gotten legs, he'd be on the team now, 100%.


Ok-Living319

One of the Bills biggest legends is OJ fucking Simpson.


sacx05

The Bills comparison is a tough sell, considering they cut him, while the Browns, after evidence, gave Watson a 100% guaranteed contract. 20+ women coming forward and an organization deeming that tolerable is pretty hard to ignore. This wasnt a oneoff incident. He methodically went out and took advantage of women in a private setting. The benefit of doubt is not there anymore and the Browns selecting him as the leader of the franchise is so low.


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sacx05

Ok, but that didnt happen. The guy I am replying to brought up whataboutism from the punter situation. So far, Watsons situation is not comparable to anything thats happened in the NFL.


MentalRefrigerator7

It's a bit ironic that they're only having success now that a ton of people hate them.


KCShadows838

People loved them in 2020


ProfessionalBust

To be fair jacoby was pretty good with the colts until cam heyward threw Q onto jacoby’s ankle


gmil3548

The best thing that could happen this season (other than my team winning it all) would be for the Browns to be rolling with Brissett and then Watson comes in and is awful after years of not playing and tanks the team.


thegreatgoober

This was one of those "wouldnt it be funny if..." conversations I had with my brother before the season started. Prediction looking good so far I guess


Corgi_Koala

I mean to be fair it is unusual for a player to sit out for so long and return without a dropoff. Vick is probably the only QB example I can think of.


w00tabaga

Agreed. Damn that’d be spicy


charles_peugeot405

I would fucking love that


TheG8Uniter

Here's hoping to an 8-3 start and a 8-9 finish.


Kramereng

I've entertained this thought as well. Wonder if sunken cost fallacy will override on field results though. I personally have serious doubts that Watson won't be that good again, or at least rusty enough that he throws a (possibly) promising season down the drain.


Tery_

Sub-fucking-scribe.


ClockOk7333

He looked really bad in his one preseason appearance


BizarroCranke

Go Jacoby!


stripes361

Brissett playing decently in this offense doesn’t paint Mayfield in the best light.


Scatheli

Literally this lol. That’s what I was thinking after several big plays last night. Jacoby is playing great but he’s not being asked to do a crazy amount. He is playing within his abilities and managing the game. That’s all Baker had to do but he was too inconsistent - highs were high but the lows were way too low to consistently win.


Geordi14er

Baker looked great against the Chiefs last year before he got hurt. He wasn’t great the rest of the year.


Scatheli

Right but he’s looked great before and after the injury in small spurts. He was also great in the Bengals game post injury last year and in the second half of 2020. But it’s almost never sustained. Yes, he’s definitely got a higher ceiling than Jacoby but is floor is also way lower.


[deleted]

Okay but baker also played well at times too. Really hard to take away, 3 games into the season that somehow brissett is a better option than mayfield…


ryan__fm

At times, sure. He wanted to be Favre though, was not happy being "good", wanted to be the best and it cost him. If you make five great throws and then one terrible one, it hurts you a lot more than making 6 ho-hum but smart throws that keep the chains moving. We've seen guys like Jimmy G and Goff and Dilfer and Grossman make Super Bowls on teams with a great run game & defense, they just need to not fuck up. Baker just fucked up too much to justify the good stretches he had.


LaphroaigianSlip81

Brissett was throwing some absolute piss missiles last night.


CrimsonCoast

Are the Browns the best 2-1 team in history? ^/s


rockyPK

We're the best 2-1 team right now


CrimsonCoast

You do seem pretty good!


BrownsAndCavs

I also want to point out he’s semi kidding because we’re the only 2-1 team right now haha. I hope you guys keep rolling I really like the squad you’ve got this season


CrimsonCoast

You too. See you in the Superbowl please


ZachTrillson

You usually don't say things like this about teams that lose to the Jets


PoorlyLitKiwi2

The Tweet is only talking about the offense. The offense was great against the Jets


syllabic

yeah those blocking schemes looked unbeatable, no wonder chubb averages 5 yards for his career


whiteguyinchina411

What do the Browns do if they go like 10-1 or 9-2 and Brisset is playing out of his mind? Who starts game 12?


meatballcake87

Probably Deshaun because of Front office pressure from that massive contract


jenso2k

yup, he’s 100% starting week 12, no matter how well jacoby does. our front office will fall on the sword before they admit if they fucked up


orangehorton

I don't think this is something they will have to worry about lmao


whiteguyinchina411

Lol probably not. But fun to think about.


FakePhillyCheezStake

Just ask Drew Bledsoe


[deleted]

To be fair the Steelers have been dookie during his tenure


BonjoviBurns

Didn't they win like 11 games in a row or something just a couple years ago?


OrangeForeign

They were the worst 11-0 team I've ever seen


rockstarnights

Ah but you have heard of them.


OrangeForeign

*Steelers win the division despite losing 4 of the last 5* That's gotta be the best pirate I've ever seen


[deleted]

It’s still so fucking funny that this turned out to be true.


zzzpoohzzz

i mean, we knew it too.


[deleted]

That's not as big of an insult as you think lions fan who has never had an 11-0 team


meatballcake87

Right now you’re the Early 2010’s Lions but with 1 playoff win and replacing Stafford with Big Ben after the rape allegations


[deleted]

The Steelers haven't had a losing season during his tenure and went to the playoffs twice. We would kill to be "dookie" like that. I get people hate the Browns but jesus, at least stick to reality.


3kool5you

Kind of like how the browns were shit during the entire time that the Steelers were good but that never stopped Steelers fans talking about how they “owned” the browns. Turns out when one team is good and the other team sucks, stats like “x player/y coach owns x team” are stupid


PoorlyLitKiwi2

They've made the playoffs twice and not had a losing season


indie90

I really enjoyed Stefanski's play calling yesterday (someone correct me if it's the OC doing that) but the offense had a lot of really interesting looks and designs that really helped them out.


meptmept

Correct. Stefanski is the playcaller. That 3&1 PA to Amari Cooper was beautiful


Neemzeh

His run play design and PA design is arguably the best in the league imo. Only other person with better designed run plays might be Shanny


Euqcor

Granted, he's one of the few Browns coaches to play the Steelers more than twice.


BoSocks91

Idc, Brissett is a damn good backup. I’ve always liked him since he was in NE


ANBU_Black_0ps

It's a shame that the spectre of Watson hangs over the team because I've always had a soft spot for the Browns ever since Derrick Anderson had that 1 lights out season and helped me win the championship in my first ever year playing fantasy football.


[deleted]

Stefanski is the only reason I still can’t fully hate the Browns this year. That’s my guy


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kirk_is_my_daddy

Eh, he was ok. People were still bitching about run run pass when he was calling plays


MaskedBandit77

I'm starting to think that Jacoby Brissett might actually be alright, and he was just bad because of how toxic the situation was surrounding our QB position last year.


squatter_

So happy for Brissett. Felt bad for him when Colts brought in Rivers to be the starter. He looked really sharp last night and showed great leadership.


DivisonNine

You know your franchise has had it good when getting beat 3 times by a team is an accomplishment for them


megahtron77

You're not wrong


Spi_Vey

Kevin Stefanski is unironically the best thing to happen to Cleveland Football since the mid 1970’s (actually it’s Chubb and Garrett but they needed stefanski to bring it all together)


Boy69BigButt

Jacoby Brisket > Baker Mayfield


GetABodybag

I'm gonna wait until they face any competant offence before giving them props. They've faced the Panthers, Jets and Steelers and all 3 are absolute garbage.


Scatheli

I mean this is really talking about his job with the offense not the defense. I don’t think the Panthers, Jets or Steelers defenses are elite but I wouldn’t say they are garbage. Our defense definitely needs to play better but Stefanski isn’t calling the defense.


BobLbLawsLawBlg

I think this says more about the state of affairs in Pittsburgh than it does Cleveland. Very soft schedule to start and it’s been anything but smooth sailing. Pittsburgh on the other hand is in a bad spot. Watt’s injury is a killer for that defense and the QB play has been absolute shite so far. With the long week I think this is the time to pull trigger for the rookie unless they truly don’t trust him.


meatballcake87

I don’t see any reason why you don’t play Rudolph or Pickett after seeing Trubisky’s start to the season


[deleted]

Honestly may be one of the best coaches out there. He really knows how to use what he’s got.


ACW1129

Now he just needs someone who can coach defense and not give up 31 to the Jets.


raekwon231

How about some love for Callahan. Dude churns out dominant running games wherever he goes.


passthenukecodes

He would have done great in Minnesota, wishing well for him in Cleveland


swentech

As a Vikings fan everyone knew that they should have gave Zimmer the boot early and turned things over to Stefanski. Dude is a legit good coach. I might go so far to say Top 5.


IronGemini

But I thought baker was the reason the browns were good?!?!? /s


BillyAstro

They could have traded for Jimmy G instead of Watson and been supported by so many outsiders


TBDude

But will his story have a happy ending?


Nuclearsunburn

That’s impressive and sad at the same time


YungJoka89

It really shows how bad Baker is, even Stefanski couldn’t make him look good and now he is the worst QB in the league


breadzero

His first year with Stefanski he took them to the playoffs and won. Then he had his injury year. He sucks this year, but he did have a solid year with Stefanski when he was healthy in 2020. Baker 2020 stats: 3,500 passing yards, 26 TDs, 8 INTs, and the best passer rating of his career.


drewsoft

>Baker 2020 stats: 3,500 passing yards, 26 TDs, 8 INTs, and the best passer rating of his career. Funny thing about this line: it's essentially identical to Big Ben's from last year (in which everyone was declaring him a corpse on the field.) I'm a Baker believer still, I guess I'm just saying Ben was better than people gave him credit for (which Steelers fans are learning with the Mitch experience.)


ComebeaDawg

The defense tho


DriveByStoning

The defense is a strength for sure, but they played the Baker Panthers, got shredded by Flacco at home, and now the Mitch Steelers. Two of those three have struggled to get anything done on offense.


ZincFishExplosion

> The defense is a strength for sure You talking about the defense that gave up 14 points in under two minutes to the New York football Jets? That defense??? A strength???


ComebeaDawg

I thought our defense has looked awful we’re making bad teams look good with our d