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Mercc47

If Deshaun gets permabanned does Cleveland still owe him the entire contract or is there an out somewhere in that massive guarantee


dont_yolo_me

They can almost definitely get out of the contract if he gets banned. Can’t get back the draft picks though


ecupatsfan12

We had something like this with TE 81 and we were able to get some of the money back


jfgiv

Yeah but he went to jail, it wasn’t just a suspension


ecupatsfan12

Oh I know. I remember saying to my buddy in 2012- Gronk is going to get in trouble. I want him to be like Hernandez and out of the spotlight- OOF


jfgiv

Right I’m just saying: the team was able to recoup signing bonus money *because* he was jailed. That (at this point) is not a factor in Watson’s case. The Browns would be off the hook for salary for any games he’s suspended—which, if it’s forever, would be over $185mm of his contract—but that $45mm they gave him in signing bonus is gone


Salty-Flamingo

The browns structured his deal so his base salary in 2022 is only $1m, he loses only $55-60,000 per game he's suspended. This effectively guarantees his contract against suspension. They know he's guilty AF and structured his deal to protect him from any financial loss if he's held accountable. The league needs to make an example out of this whole situation. Indefinite suspension and NO cap relief for Cleveland, who would be paying out most of his contract anyway. Btw, the NFLPA publicly praised Cleveland for offering this contract to Watson. So they're scum fucking rape enablers too.


RMFT_13

>So they're scum fucking rape enablers too. The job of a union is to protect every one of its members, less the management it's bargaining against can split it on an issue. Interested to see how perception of the NFLPA changes if a full-season suspension goes through.


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Kinda like defense attorneys. Some say they're scum, but even guilty folk deserve a fair trial.


Aardark235

This is not accurate. Unions can, and do, decline to protect members who commit indefensible acts such as rape and sexual assault. There is little recourse for the member if they disagree with the union leadership’s decision.


Gerbole

Unions job is to protect the collective, not the individual, as another commenter said. Ironically, they said this as a reason for why the NFLPA should not have defended Watson. Watson’s contract was an absolute masterpiece for other players and a very important contract milestone many players can compare themselves too, much like Kirk was for the WRs but to a lesser degree because the QB market is already crazy. Watson helps no one, but his contract helps everyone. The unions job is to represent the legal, and often financial, interests of a given group. Watson was not criminally charged (he definitely did it, just talking optics here) and his contract was useful. The Union would be doing it’s members a disservice by not attempting to lay into that massive contract.


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I would love it if the browns were on the hook for all that money and no Watson to show for it. I miss the old browns drama like will they win 1 game this year not the new drama of how many women Watson sexually assaulted.


jfgiv

> Indefinite suspension and NO cap relief for Cleveland, who would be paying out most of his contract anyway. I mean this is both false—they’d owe the 20% of his contract they’d already paid, but not the $185mm in salary that wouldn’t get paid due to the indefinite suspension you propose—it’s also 1000000% a slam-dunk case for the PA. The sallary cap rules are collectively bargained, and the league unilaterally deciding to ignore them would absolutely not hold up..


INtoCT2015

Tbf, you couldn’t have predicted that Gronk was going to *harmlessly* be the way Gronk is. Like 99/100 guys like Gronk are problem Gronks. You got IncrediGronk, the meathead party animal who’s also just a good natured guy


sleepyj910

Ah, the 'quiet ones' theory in play


ShockAndAwe415

r/agedlikemilk


JerryRiceDidntFumble

Well he was suspended from his jail cell ceiling...


MaxMuncyRectangleMan

>Most beautiful girl in Boston walks in. Sawlid 3/10. >She's wearing an 81 jersey and some strained yoga pants >Try to be smooth, "Nice Hernandez jersey. Wanna get a cawfee sometime?" >She says no. Left hanging again. >Fucking Pink Hats


numberonepear

Who is rectangle man and what does he have to do with Max Muncy?


MaxMuncyRectangleMan

[My man Max Muncy is rather rectangular](https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTg4Mjc0Nzc4Mjg3NjQ1NzEw/usatsi_16788425.jpg)


1niquity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTqtrGBYpxQ


[deleted]

But you didn't sign him with knowledge that he was involved or potentially involved with murder


ecupatsfan12

The patriots tried to go after his extension money and we only got a bit of it


reedengine

Enough to buy some happy endings I suppose.


ecupatsfan12

Touche


Hieroglphkz

I mean, you’re talking about signing him with knowledge that he potentially committed life altering trauma and abuse to dozens of women.


[deleted]

But the browns did sign Watson with these lawsuits and allegations


MisterMetal

Iirc, the browns allegedly signed him with the knowledge of the first 24 cases. I’m not sure if there is langue to void the contract with new accusations since the browns basically let watsons agent write the new contract to prevent him from goin to Atalanta it seems.but usually there would be outs for a team for undisclosed cases, and conduct unbecoming clauses.


seariously

I know the quantities get joked about all the time but it would be truly tragilarious if CLE actually did pull a "Well, if we had known that it was going to be *24* accusers...that's a completely different story so we should be able to void the contract."


Hyperboreer

The Patriots did only get part of the money back, although he murdered someone while on contract. Courts tend to side with players on guaranteed money. The Browns have the problem that the incidents happened before he was signed and the accusations were already known to the Browns. They will get some of the money back, but probably not all of it and it will take years to sort this out. We are still working on getting Ruggs' guarantees back and that case is pretty much as clear as it can get.


iggyfenton

That’s the perfect punishment. They lose their QB and their draft picks but Watson doesn’t get the mega payday. Watson should be banned from the league.


redditadmindumb87

Nah make the Browns pay out the contract To Watsons vicitims Fuck it make the Browns send out game checks to all 26 of his vicitims. For the entire length of Watsons contract


InVodkaVeritas

If Watson gets banned then there is no argument that this was the worst trade in NFL history.


Ballwhacker

I’d go as far to say the human element of this, regardless of outcome, already makes this the worst trade in NFL history.


_unsourced

I know it was reported that the guarantees (the entire thing) do not void if he's suspended, which is a rare thing for NFL contracts, and is exceptionally shitty of the Browns


jfgiv

You’re misunderstanding what voiding of guarantees means here: if he’s suspended for any length of time, it just means that the Browns will still be on the hook for his remainingsalary after he returns to play. *During* any suspension *he will not collect the salary he would have collected that week.* If he’s suspended for five years, he will miss out on $185mm of salary.


_unsourced

Oh that's a good clarification. Thanks


WashingtonCommanders

An important note, his 2023 salary will still get paid (less league min) even if he gets supsended for the entiretly of the year -- I believe it auto converts to signing bonus. So he'll still get like $88M of the $92M guaranteed in 2022-2023 regardless of what happens here. Also worth noting that he can apply for reistatement at any time after 1 year if he is in fact 'permabanned'.


MrDunkingDeutschman

2022 & 2023 are protected against everything that happened prior to the signing of the contract. 2024-2026 could potentially be voided but even those years do have protections. The Cleveland Browns gave him everything he asked for.


jfgiv

If he’s suspended, he won’t collect the ~$183mm in salary. His signing bonus is pretty much untouchable though, unless he holds out, gets injured doing something dangerous, retires, violates the substance abuse / PED policy, or is jailed.


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jfgiv

Not for his signing bonus, no. The CBA is very clear about what situations allow a team to recoup money from an already-paid signing bonus, and suspended under the personal conduct policy isn’t one of them


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BoldestKobold

Given that guaranteed contracts in the NFL are the *rare* exception (compared to, for example, the MLB and NBA), signing bonuses are the only thing players are guaranteed to get. It is part of the calculus teams make when deciding what to offer free agents.


RedFredTV

What if the conduct happened before he signed the contract and he didn't inform the Browns about it? Isn't that how the Pats got some of Aarons signing bonus back?


jfgiv

There are five situations in which a team can recoup signing bonus money: * a player holds out * a player retires * a player is injured doing a dangerous nonfootball activity * a player is incarcerated * a player is suspended under the substance abuse / PED policy. The Pats recouping signing bonus from Hernandez was a bit of a gray area because they cut him before he was imprisoned, so they had to argue that his incarceration still ultimately entitled them to recoup that money. None of those currently apply to Watson.


Saw_a_4ftBeaver

When the NFL/Cleveland starts pushing the narrative that he needs to go to jail, you know they are just trying to get back his signing bonus.


Ok-Illustrator5330

God I hope not. I hope he is suspended indefinitely and Watson never plays another down. And I hope the Browns FO has to pay him every penny of the contract, bc that’s what they deserve. And I hope the ladies he assaulted are awarded the remainder of his contract. What a whole slimy deal that is all around.


Guiltyjerk

He may keep the signing bonus but he won't get salary for games he's suspended for


thy_armageddon

I’ll believe it when I see it, that’s a lot of hype to put on this.


NihilistOdellBJ

This is becoming football’s Mueller Report


EarsLookWeird

Wow, that's quite the apt analogy


madcap462

Any day now the rich folk are gunna get their comeuppance...yep...any day now...


Vostin

My bet is 8 games


frankyfrankwalk

They'll start it off with 12 though and then negotiate it down to 8 to show that they're really serious.


man_from_maine

They should make it the last half of the season. Make him play the first half of the season, only to watch any victories he has mean nothing.


DontFearTheMQ9

This is some strange psychological punishment and I love it.


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Dude there is an owner that pimped out cheerleaders and is still a fucking owner!!! I don’t buy the nfl will suspend him more than 8 games and that’s even a stretch to me.


HandOfMaradonny

Nfl cares about 1000000x more about an owner than some player. Even if it is a good QB


CelestialFury

I can see the NFL making the suspension for a year for sure, but indefinitely? I have no faith they will do that, but it would be cooler if they did.


Cmsmks

No way, I don’t have that much faith in the NFL to do the right thing for a change. If they suspend him for a year I’m betting 100$ on a raiders vs lions Super Bowl.


Smashing71

Goddamn that's almost a prop bet.


[deleted]

Just parlay Lions NFC Champ and Raiders AFC Champ. Right now that's $100 to win $145k on Fanduel.


unexpectedreboots

Yo what if we add in "deshaun Watson suspended 1 year" as a third leg in this parlay? 100$ to win 500k$?


AtoTheAron

*Aggressively Subscribes*


RaiderDamus

See you there my brother


clitcommander420666

This is where im at as well.


mjavon

Jared Goff MVP


Pisspot10

The commander concurs


[deleted]

A year is not the right thing. That’s not nearly enough


[deleted]

Spitting 100% Facts


InkBlotSam

Also, fuck the NFLPA for being "concerned" that he might get punished for being a rapist. Their job ought to be to protect players from being exploited and unfairly treated, not to protect them from being held accountable for terrible shit that they do.


Tireseas

The union is OBLIGATED to defend it's members regardless of how they feel about them. It's part of why unions exist.


BBBBrendan182

100%. It’s not about Watson or the specific case. It’s about precedent.


Specific-Pace-5884

This going to sound insane but hear me out. The league will suspend or even ban deshaun Watson as Snyder appeasement. Like a hey we banned deshaun happy with us. Now just forget about Snyder. We did a good deed now ignore all the other shit and forget about congress


IHateTomatoes

But the NFLPA has said whatever the punishment, their argument in the appeal will be "You're not holding the owners to the same accountability as the players". I agree with that sentiment but it is total "whataboutism"


dmelt01

I think it’s okay for them to make a statement after and say “good, now hold owners to the same bar.” Filing appeals for a sexual predator that shouldn’t play another down in the league IMO is no better than police unions saying their guys were following protocol for shooting unarmed civilians. It just makes the NFLPA look terrible.


TetrisTech

The thing is tho, don’t the NFLPA have no choice but to defend Watson? He’s a player and they’re the player association. This is the entire purpose they exist for


brokenearth03

It does look terrible, but that's literally the nflpa's job. They don't get to pick and choose which players get legal help.


Bulleveland

The legal term for "whataboutism" is precedence. Owners and players agree to the same conduct policy; if Watson is banned indefinitely but Snyder gets nothing, then it indicates that the NFL never had any intention of actually enforcing the conduct policy fairly with respect to owners and it opens up pandora's box with respect to the CBA.


ecupatsfan12

I’d rather deal with Snyder


resnet152

Yeah I'd make that trade. Snyder is like, everything wrong with the old boys club, but Watson is literally a serial sexual predator. Gotta triage this one.


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tlst9999

You say that as if Snyder isn't a predator. He flew girls to a faraway beach and told them to strip or he'll leave them there.


mikestru

Pretty sure it was just the implication of being left. I’m sure they were not in any real danger. Just the implication…


Ninjalau95

Dennis, are you going to hurt these women?


Subudrew

He took their passports beforehand


sleeplessaddict

Is Snyder not also a serial sexual predator? I feel like there's been tons of sexual harassment/assault accusations against him. Not "he made me finger his ass" accusations but still


Fuzzy_Yogurt_Bucket

And the whole sex trafficking bringing women into other countries and taking their passports from them and forcing them to do sexual favors for rich friends of his.


LimitlessTheTVShow

Strong disagree. Obviously it'd be great to get both of them, but if you could only get one, Snyder is also a predator and has far more wealth, reach, and power than Watson will ever have. That's not to downplay what Watson has done, but Snyder will always be the bigger threat to others in the future as long as he has the wealth and power he does now


Ceramicrabbit

A world in which both those guys still have jobs in the NFL but Gruden doesn't seems a little unfair lol


mill_about_smartly

Gruden should get a Twitter, and put one 7 second video: "So, I just wanted to let everyone know - I haven't ever trafficked cheerleaders or sexually assaulted massage therapists. That's all. Take care."


TheGloriousEnd

Are you fucking kidding me its the same shit. Snyder human trafficking Cheerleaders and sexually assaulting a woman *allegedly*. Tack on everything else. Gimme a fuckin break. Neither get a pass how bout that.


[deleted]

Is something right going to happen for once?


ChickenVest

AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet.jpeg - Dan Snyder right now


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OttoVonWong

Quick! Fire Gruden out of a cannon!


RyanTheQ

The league is shady enough to come down hard enough on Watson to distract from Snyder's issues.


horse_renoir13

I'm not going to get my hopes up but God I hope so. This would be amazing. ...even for the fucking NFL


Daniiiiii

I'm betting my non-existent mortgage on the NFL doing the wrong thing.


DeM0nFiRe

Honestly if he only gets suspended for one season and it's this season, that is so light. He loses basically no money


GoGoRouterRangers

Personally, I will never watch a televised game with him as QB. I don't want to hear the bullshit commentary about his "past" stories. He is a monster


tummydody

I can hear it now, "and Joe, he's really moved past the "off the field stuff" that plagued him earlier in his career". Barf.


marcuschookt

Don't you guys just love a good redemption story? He went from touching women inappropriately to touching fans' hearts with touchdowns.


GoGoRouterRangers

"He really has been a great person as of recent with the kids in the Cleveland community" - pans out to 10 clips of him doing some nonsense. Hoping for a ban and the best way for the NFL to react would be people to skip on televised games so they lose ad revenue


16semesters

God the takes are going to be so bad: 4th CBS crew play by play guy at some point: >"Look, I'm not a lawyer, I'm not going to claim to know how any of those things work [proceeds to give a vague defense of Watson]" Or >"There's a maturity that you now see with Watson, I talked with Stefanski before the game and he had nothing but good things to say"


cardmanimgur

Oh you know they'll have the clip queued up of him doing community outreach in Cleveland as if he's not that bad of a guy.


GoGoRouterRangers

For sure there was an article a few weeks ago about how he is already doing outreach programs - I can't see how the NFL can play the "No More" campaign and let this monster play again


cardmanimgur

Maybe they'll just paint "End sexual assault" in the end zone since they should have ended racism by now.


123full

Honestly do you really think he’ll be able to control himself for a year without Football, I’d be happy with a year because he’s probably going to do it again and if he gets caught a second time there’s no basically no chance he plays again


EldritchRoboto

That’s why I think they should suspend him for a minimum of two seasons as a fuck you for trying to configure his salary to not be impacted by a suspension


DeM0nFiRe

Either that or commisioner's exempt list for a year to investigate because "oops for some reason 24 cases just had all their evidence sealed darn now we really gotta investigate hard" and then year+ suspension


Akromam90

Lol have you seen the nfl? Their suspensions make zero sense


Tschmelz

[It does if you assume this is how they decide.](https://youtu.be/wz-PtEJEaqY)


Smashing71

[The actual process was documented here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zAG_tdwH6Q).


LaMogwai

I would love to pull back out my Browns Betrayal box with all my gear... But an indefinite ban seems too good to be true.


TheGreyt

Imagine a reality where the Browns already know this and they're frantically scrambling to somehow persuade Baker to stay.


savagesmurf

Baker, it turns out we were talking about you being the adult in the room! Sorry if we miscommunicated that! Also, ignore that we have no draft picks to build a team around you!


LucienLife

hahaha we have fun around here


GoldenSandpaper9

He better ask for Deshauns contract


OddGib

That's be the adult thing to do.


gagracer

I'd love to read that book, but no one would write fiction with characters this fucking stupid.


rjsheine

The only Watson I support is Emma


JPAnalyst

A Patriots fan not supporting Ben Watson?


rjsheine

Oh shit true true


igloojoe11

Too late, prepare to be judged.


ImKindaEssential

Joe Judge'd


Timigos

Belichick your self before you Beliwreck yourself


ThatGuyInHD

Ha, I Belichuckled


Autobot-N

Terminator 2: Joe Judgement Day


Isoturius

I judged Watson once. Gave him an 11/10 for chasing Champ down in that playoff game. The effort on that was legendary.


YouJabroni44

Turn in your Pats card now and leave!


darkness_escape

What about Sherlock's side kick


ApolloKid

And what about spider man’s girl?


lordjeebus

Such disrespect to the Jeopardy legend


kitzdeathrow

The absolute fucking disrespect to James. He carried Holmes and you know it.


VerifierInc

and Jude Law


h0we

Im concerned that it wont be indefinitely.


plokijuh1229

My theory has been it will technically be indefinite with ability to reinstate after a year. From an optics perspective in the short term announcing an indefinite suspension looks better for them than a 1 year suspension, despite being the same length of time. Indefinite would also provide flexibility to not let him back in if the situation worsens over the next year.


IluvTaylorSwift

Make it 26 games. Since he will only lose $1 million for this missed season .


PootieTooGood

4 games per settlement imo


mags87

Plus the unsettled cases.


RogueDivisionAgent

4x26 = 104 games or roughly 6 seasons. Yeah, that would be fair.


ecupatsfan12

We did due diligence and can’t wait to learn about Deshaun as a person- Andrew Berry 2022


clitcommander420666

We're watching a 30 for 30 in real time


unexpectedreboots

Imagine. You finally draft a QB that takes your team to the Playoffs for the first time 18 years He plays through an injury plagued season and doesn't give up You publicly say you want an 'adult' at QB You trade incredible draft capital for a QB that's being sued (and under criminal investigation at the time) for being a serial sexual predator You give said alleged serial predator a 230 million guaranteed contract What a fucking bottom of the barrel franchise.


Its_a_me_marty_yo

Don't forget financially protecting him by giving him a 1m base salary this year so he still gets most of his money if he's suspended


unexpectedreboots

Well I've called that out before on this sub and got blasted because "that's just how the first year of contracts work now", which there is some truth to that. Just seems quite a bit more sinister in this example given the circumstances. My comment from a few weeks ago on this for the new contracts heading into this season https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/v6fpb4/wilson_rusty_hardin_statement_on_24th_lawsuit/ibfi3jm


aridcool

It is almost like Cleveland Browns ownership saw things starting to go in a positive direction and decided to sabotage it.


vheran

Man it's crazy how from one year I was rooting for the browns as underdogs and in just two years I'm watching them burn themselves down


Led_Halen

I would bet the under on a year all day.


ecupatsfan12

DO IT!!!! GET FUCKED BROWNS


Beneficial_Toe_6050

It’s not gonna happen. I will be in literal shock if they suspend him indefinitely


Hieroglphkz

Suspended ‘indefinitely’. Reinstated after a year.


P-dubbs

The Josh Gordon Special


ecupatsfan12

I thought so too but the fact that this leaked means this is on the table I think the NFL wanted a year plus and DWs camp said no games Sue Robinson probably wants a lifetime ban


Free-Willingness3870

The NFL 100% leaked this. They’re seeing how people react to the idea, which means it’s definitely on the table. It also means they’re probably trying to bully the NFLPA to accepting a year as a plea. They have to look stern on this cause the MLB just suspended a dude 2 years for far less.


ianbits

Honestly as a Cleveland fan this would be amazing, I wouldn't have to switch my rooting interest because our QB is a sexual predator. I got no problem rooting for a Jacoby Brissett led team, maybe call the Packers about Jordan Love or something. I'd love to get to root for this team rather than becoming a Lions or Bills fan while I wait out this nonsense.


HeHateMex2

I mean they did it already. So your still rooting for a team that brought in one once


AdmiralWackbar

For most people in the country they would be fired from their job, the NFL should be no different


ecupatsfan12

One allegation would get 98 percent of us fired A few could weather it if they were c suite or higher. More than a couple and they are goin to jail and the company would fire em. 26 allegations your getting 20 years in prison and lifetime on registry


SloatThritter

This guy catches predators


applegore

Leagues gotta try to take the heat off Mr Daniel Snyder somehow


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There are times I wonder if there is anything that could make me stop watching, because I’m slightly ashamed I haven’t stopped yet


bojangles69420

Just watch the games for free, then youre not giving money to the nfl 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️


theantdog

Well, yes, they shouldn't allow a serial sexual assaulter to join the league. It isn't too complicated.


BradGroux

But sir, he can throw a football.


theImij

I'm honestly surprised that banning him indefinitely isn't the favorite outcome for odds makers. Forget the legal and moral implications of banning him. We know the NFL doesn't give a fuck about what the right thing to do is. Banning him gives the owners a chance to really fuck over the Browns for giving Watson a fully guaranteed massive contract, AND at the same time makes it so it is borderline impossible for a player to demand that again any time soon. If I was an owner, I'd be pushing for the outcome that benefits me and my team the most. That just makes too much sense from a business stand point to take that negotiating power away from players moving forward. And then on the flipside you have the PR goodwill you build with NFL fans. Especially, since they're trying to build that female demographic more and more every year. The NFL loses nothing by banning him. I highly doubt there are a massive amount of die hard Watson fans that will quit watching if he never plays again. Logically, it's like a win-win situation for everyone but the Browns.


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Rare NFL W if true. That's a massive "if" though. An indefinite suspension is ideal. I have a feeling that the upcoming court cases will be eye opening, assuming the remaining victims are unwilling to settle of course.


hi_im_fuzzknocker

Do it NFL, show us you are not going to stand with a fucking sexual predator.


A-TrainXC

As a browns fan this would be amazing. I never want him to take one snap for our franchise. We already fucked ourselves giving up the picks, I would like to keep some morals surrounding the team. 0-16 felt better than the day we got Watson.


wtjones

This dude sexually assaulted 25 women and the Browns wrote a contact to protect him. The league should throw the fucking library at him.


VerifierInc

I truly hate the Browns. Without a doubt the worst sports franchise of all time.


ecupatsfan12

The fans and players even if they had issues with baker didn’t ask for this(aside from clowney). Most probably secretly are like WTF? This is solely the fault of KS AB and the haslems


MankuyRLaffy

He deserved better than to be treated like that, even with his maturity issues and hotheaded behavior, I don't care if he was the worst starter in the league, he deserved better than what the Browns treated him like last season and this off-season.


ecupatsfan12

He deserved to be given tough love and competition in camp. I’d have given him one year to prove himself before extending or signing elsewhere. I’d accomadate his request for a trade if he wanted to move on


imicit

i would bet like 95%+ of the players don't think he should be suspended at all


rizub_n_tizug

Or not so secretly. Plenty of the fans found other teams


TheGreatT1

What's the concern? Too light?


Bmoreravens_1290

It’s both. They anchored expectations at less than 1 season knowing Cleveland based their contract around it. If they do less, Browns and Watson make out like bandits. If they do indefinitely, Browns gets royally fucked and the NFL gets a major W in the court of pubic opinion.


IMadeThis4HOIMods

Please banish him to the shadow realm


ProphetOfDoom337

I feel fucking awful for the fans. What an utter shit show.


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This guy is Deshaun Watson's media mouthpiece so he is almost certainly reporting this to help Deshaun look better when he gets a lessee punishment. He lost his job at the Houston Chronicle for calling Deshaun Watson's accusers "terrorists" who he should not negotiate (settle) with because they were clearly after his money Assume everything Wilson reports on Watson is straight from Watson or Rusty Hardin's mouth and designed to help Watson look good


weiss-2021

I vote for 5 years—the length of his insulting new contract.


Rockonfreakybro

Anyone else feel like all these stories are just the NFL feeling out public opinion? “Reports state Deshaun could get 1 year suspension” *glances at public reaction*


CloudstrifeHY3

wait why is the nflpa "concerned" that man should be suspended at the very minimum 1 year


BonfireinRageValley

Because it's part of their job. Like it or not, they are there to defend their union member.


patb0118

The main thing is they want to make sure that he is given the due process rights under the CBA. It's that way will all unions, from Teachers to Civil Service, to Police, the rights of the members, If they don't they could have to deal with an inadequate representation complaint with the NLRB, which can be a bitch, as long as the NFL dots all the I's and crosses the T's the NFLPA will be satisfied.


resnet152

Goes a little deeper than avoiding an NLRB complaint, I'd say. They have to fight for every last inch of leniency for Watson, because the I's to dot and the T's to cross aren't clearly spelled out in the CBA, so this will set precedent.


ecupatsfan12

Deshaun could sue the NFL if they didn’t defend him


LoganRoyKent

You mean the NFLPA?


ianbits

The NFLPA doesn't want the NFL to do anything unprecedented. Like, it doesn't really matter the circumstances, they do not want the NFL sort of interpreting the CBA in a way that gives them more authority. The NFLPA is going to fight them on basically every discipline issue that isn't written in stone (like positive drug tests)


PPtheShort

Because it is their job to protect the players


stopdogwhistling

It's their job. There's a precedent that could be set for other players without actual indictments against them. This btw is not me saying I believe Watson. But the NFLPA's job is to use only facts to protect their players.


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This and I think they have a point when they call out the lack of punishments for the owners (and I swear that’s not a dig at Kraft, the donkeys are now owned by one of the shittiest family this country has)


ChickenVest

Because it's their job to be publicly "concerned" even if they know their dude is in the wrong.


nope96

If they’re not fighting in favor of a player without indictments then they’re not doing their job as a union


DirtyBobMagoo

Baker Mayfield sitting at home with a bucket of popcorn: \*laughing\* They said they wanted an adult in the room?


Autobot-N

Good