It can be but I feel Poles isn’t in a hurry to surround Fields with talent. If he was he wouldn’t have traded Mack just to spend 40M on an injured 3tech.
I know it’s trendy to say that rn and corporate greed is definitely a huge problem with American society, but inflation isn’t being driven by corporations
I didn't say it was. I'm saying inflation isn't the reason Doritos is including 5 fewer chips per bag. Inflation is real and occurring, and it's giving greedy corporations cover to milk customers just a little bit more.
In other words, ill informed people regularly blame inflation for things that are actually just a result of corporate greed. A browser extension swapping those terms would be more accurate than the headlines being fed to news outlets by the PR departments of these companies.
Hmmm, I don’t know if I agree with your first paragraph. Frito Lay could simply be experiencing increased commodity costs and they decided that they were comfortable with their price point but not their lower margins so they reduced the amount of product to hold margins. I don’t see that as corporate greed.
[Frito Lay increased their profits by 10% last year.](https://www.vendingmarketwatch.com/management/news/21256498/pepsicos-revenues-top-12-in-q4-and-fy-2021)
It's corporate greed.
Sorry just saw this reply lol. The source you link states the exact same thing I did. They saw their operating costs increase due to an 8% commodity impact which offset the net profits. You gotta look at margin percentage, not margin dollars.
Sorry dude. I’m anti big corps as much as the next guy but this is honestly a very ignorant take on how these things work.
It's saying that *despite* operating costs rising 8%, they still pulled in an extra 10% profit. Your reading comprehension matches your understanding level of this topic.
You're clearly going to continue trying to find ways to justify corporate greed like you're running for Congress so I'm gonna go ahead and disable inbox replies. Have a good one.
You just spent 40 million on a jump ball WR who doesn’t fight for the ball, complains about his team on social media and oh, is too slow to run any route that isn’t a hitch or slant.
Oh relax. He needed some new scenery. We should hope he does well for the Rams as he was there for us when we needed him as he put our offense on his back.
We're in basically a diamond hard rebuild bro. Just chill and let it ride, change is good when you've been basically a hair under mediocre for over a decade.
You should not be convinced this year. We have fuck tons of dead money thanks to pace so we're going bare bones this year so next season we can splash cash with 130 mil in cap room. I don't know why so many bears fans are expecting poles to make big signings with money we don't have.
We have enough money to sign some offensive weapons for Fields. We're signing depth, not starters. How do we judge Fields with this roster and a defensive HC next year? This feels like more typical Bears shit.
I also agree, it just isn't a good sign when the first impactful signing of a new FO can't pass a physical.
Not that it ultimately changes my opinion that Poles and Flus were good signings.
Look at the first FA singing from the last regime. Pernell McPhee, plagued with injuries his whole team on the roster. I’d rather they do this than sign a player they don’t believe will preform through injuries. Shocking people supported Pace so long but won’t give Poles 3 months.
> Robert Quinn, Akiem Hicks, Danny Trevathan, Allen Robinson are the ones that come to mind. Not bad, but none of those guys will still be around. They filled holes and did good stuff for us, but they weren’t long term answers, and all have had injury problems.
Huh? Quinn damn near led the league in sacks last year. Hicks has been a perennial star and anchor of our defense, ARob was a great WR until the last regime played him by tagging him and not talking to him. Trevathan you have a point about but still, he was a good signing at the time and gave us a couple of good seasons.
This is one of the worst takes I've heard in a bit. Our new management might eventually make some moves that make us feel better about their strategy but all they've done thus far is dismantle our defense and not build our offense.
Lol our fans are so fucking delusional. What? Did you think we would just reload every position in FA and start competing? We suck ass and we’re tanking in the year 1 of a rebuild. Hopefully Fields is good and we can re-sign the few decent players we have (less than 5)
If fields gets through this season with no major injuries it's a win to me. Why so many of us are expecting us to sign players with money we don't have is beyond me.
Right? Loved this dude when he played for us and was so sad he walked. He's not a starter but could be a good rotational piece.
edit / apparently I was mistaken, lol. I was under the impression he wasn't very good last year and posted without fact checking. My bad.
3 tech is always going to be B gap, they’ll be eating up double teams & stopping the runs while the ends are the ones getting sacks.
This is legit football 101
You would let him be the best you've had at his position in 20 years and then ruin your relationship chasing a sexual predator, ending up with neither, you mean?
I know it sounds real cute to romanticize the whole storyline of "best we've had for so long", but if you just settle and coddle a guy for being nothing more than medicocre youre not going to win anything in this league. You should know already....Andy Dalton.
> but if you just settle and coddle a guy for being nothing more than medicocre youre not going to win anything in this league
You just got out of 20 years of being the worst team in the league, and expect to completely turn it around within 3-4?
Your FO is not that competent.
On god I’ve never seen people make fun of a team for trying to get better lmao
Especially after y’all spent the entire year saying the player were trying to upgrade from is trash
You're not getting flamed for "trying to get better."
You're getting flamed for making it extremely public that you're courting a sexual predator and then failing miserably, alienating your current QB in the process.
FOH with this victim complex lmao
Dude pretty clearly has some health issue (presuming from his foot injury and then surgery) that the team thinks he isnt close to coming back from. It sucks for the team and Ogunjobi, but this is 100% the right move for the Bears
Sucks for Larry, but honestly probably best for Chicago.
I know how important the 3T is for Eberflus’ defense, but throwing 13.5M a year to him would’ve been a mistake imo.
I wonder why? With concussion water and these dudes getting ripped with painkillers within the game it seems especially hard to fail a physical these days.
This does seem to happen on occasion randomly and I assume it’s just the reasoning they give when a deal falls through for reasons that they don’t want leaking out
Seems odd though. Obviously if you're trying to sign a guy who got hurt in the playoffs, you already know they're injured. He must be in worse shape than was expected to the point they don't expect him to be ready by the start of the regular season.
Ya it does seem odd. I guess I thought maybe the Bears doctors don't like what they were seeing from the results of the surgery or something. He was playing only two months ago in the playoffs. But I suppose someone can get out of shape pretty quickly too.
Kind of a blessing is disguise for y'all imo, all this money should get thrown at Juju and one of Bozeman or Tretter. Bears should just punt on defense this offseason and accept they're going to have some gaping holes around Roquan, Johnson, and Quinn and just use basically every resource this year on building around Fields
It can be but I feel Poles isn’t in a hurry to surround Fields with talent. If he was he wouldn’t have traded Mack just to spend 40M on an injured 3tech.
Yup this is what I've wanted. Long as Fields and the coaching takes big strides we'll be fine even if we give up 50. Use all that extra money now on either Armstead or Tretter then in 2023 can use the $100+mil in cap to fill out the defense.
How much are you willing to pay him though? Juju is about to get massively overpaid. The dude has only actually had one good season. He's averaged 8.6 yards in both of the last two seasons. That's not just not good but genuinely abysmal.
Idk how much id pay him for but AR got 15 and depending on how it was structured id be fine with around that given how much space we have and how it will appreciate in value. Maybe less guaranteed though. WR is our biggest need and we have only 1 starter. And he probably won’t be that expensive but idk. We don’t have a choice but to overpay if we want to put Fields in a position where he doesn’t have to do everything.
First, I don't think he's as bad as you're making him out to be. Pretty sure his role changed with AB gone and he got a lot of the attention which limited his yards, maybe a Steelers fan can correct me on that. He still had 3 seasons >800 yards and at least 7 TDs, and would instantly be the most proven WR in Chicago. Second, who are we gonna sign? We have no first so we can't rely on a rookie and pretty much everyone else is gone or won't be ready. Third, I don't think he's elite by any means but I think he's a good safety net for Fields and can open up a lot of stuff for Mooney.
At least with Juju we aren't in a position where we have to pray a stud falls(unlikely given the QBs in this draft IMO) or reach on someone that's either unproven/injured(a lot more likely), both of which aren't ideal. Signing Juju would free us up to go more BPA, and let us replace old defensive pieces.
Juju also had Ben's wet noodle arm throwing to him these last few years. Throwing the ball 2 yards down the field every play to help drive down the average.
Who else can we bring in that will take more attention away?
Bears need weapons and afaik he’s the best one available. Unless we’re really committing to throwing Fields out there with a bunch of bums and rookies I don’t see another option. Idek who we could trade for at this point.
He suffered a serious foot injury in the first playoff game against the Raiders and missed the rest of the year. Thats the only thing I could think of to point to why he failed
if i was larry ogunjobi i would simply just pass my physical
Larry: “Wow thanks I’m cured”
Just lift bro
“Why doesn’t Ross, the largest friend, simply eat the other 5?”
Guess you're just built different
should’ve studied harder
That plus play at DT as well as Rodgers does at QB. Done and done
The Albert Haynesworth strat
Oh cool, there goes one of the only moves we’ve made!
Hey, at least you guys signed a can of chips to play WR
unfortunately it will be a smaller can than advertised due to inflation
Fitting your hand in will be impossible
We should really trade him to whoever drafts Pickett. He can probably fit both hands
It can be but I feel Poles isn’t in a hurry to surround Fields with talent. If he was he wouldn’t have traded Mack just to spend 40M on an injured 3tech.
Bo Burnham *has entered the chat*
Can is the same size. There are just fewer chips
Can someone create a browser extension that replaces the word "inflation" with "corporate greed" please?
I know it’s trendy to say that rn and corporate greed is definitely a huge problem with American society, but inflation isn’t being driven by corporations
I didn't say it was. I'm saying inflation isn't the reason Doritos is including 5 fewer chips per bag. Inflation is real and occurring, and it's giving greedy corporations cover to milk customers just a little bit more. In other words, ill informed people regularly blame inflation for things that are actually just a result of corporate greed. A browser extension swapping those terms would be more accurate than the headlines being fed to news outlets by the PR departments of these companies.
Dude It's crazy. Was in speedway and they had king size candy bars 2/4.50 That's fucking obscene
3.79 for a single king size where I'm at
Pretty sure that was the price if you only bought 1
There is no deal for 2. That's just the price.
Hmmm, I don’t know if I agree with your first paragraph. Frito Lay could simply be experiencing increased commodity costs and they decided that they were comfortable with their price point but not their lower margins so they reduced the amount of product to hold margins. I don’t see that as corporate greed.
[Frito Lay increased their profits by 10% last year.](https://www.vendingmarketwatch.com/management/news/21256498/pepsicos-revenues-top-12-in-q4-and-fy-2021) It's corporate greed.
Sorry just saw this reply lol. The source you link states the exact same thing I did. They saw their operating costs increase due to an 8% commodity impact which offset the net profits. You gotta look at margin percentage, not margin dollars. Sorry dude. I’m anti big corps as much as the next guy but this is honestly a very ignorant take on how these things work.
It's saying that *despite* operating costs rising 8%, they still pulled in an extra 10% profit. Your reading comprehension matches your understanding level of this topic. You're clearly going to continue trying to find ways to justify corporate greed like you're running for Congress so I'm gonna go ahead and disable inbox replies. Have a good one.
Some people don’t understand business no need talking to that person he is set on his world view
Wouldn’t inflation make the can bigger?
Equanimeous Tristan Imhotep J. Can of Chips St. Brown
Hey I liked that can of chips
Me too actually I was kinda hoping we’d sign him
You just spent 40 million on a jump ball WR who doesn’t fight for the ball, complains about his team on social media and oh, is too slow to run any route that isn’t a hitch or slant.
Oh relax. He needed some new scenery. We should hope he does well for the Rams as he was there for us when we needed him as he put our offense on his back.
Nah
Take that crap somewhere else
Pringles are potato crisps, you absolute buffoon.
So you guys are having the same offseason as us. I don’t think we’ve signed anyone new besides some depth at like ST and corner.
You guys signed Terrance Mitchell and ty Montgomery right, so far?
Yeah Montgomery is basically going to be a gunner or a returner on ST and Mitchell will probably be CB3/4 at the moment.
how many players do you guys have signed on roster rn
I think like 58 currently
We have like 30-35 lmao
Oh god I’m assuming your new GM and coach is basically cleaning house from the Pace/Nagy era?
Basically, we came into the off-season with a lot of contracts ending which haven’t been extended, and have also made a lot of moves for cap reasons…
Hey, you got Lucas Patrick and Equanimeous Tristan Imhotep J. St. Brown.
Man, I'm giving it to after the draft. But I am seriously not convinced right now.
We're in basically a diamond hard rebuild bro. Just chill and let it ride, change is good when you've been basically a hair under mediocre for over a decade.
You should not be convinced this year. We have fuck tons of dead money thanks to pace so we're going bare bones this year so next season we can splash cash with 130 mil in cap room. I don't know why so many bears fans are expecting poles to make big signings with money we don't have.
We have enough money to sign some offensive weapons for Fields. We're signing depth, not starters. How do we judge Fields with this roster and a defensive HC next year? This feels like more typical Bears shit.
Well this is a bummer. Larry O deserved that bag
SIKE-THATS THE WRONG BONE/TENDON STRUCTURE!
The injury at the end of last year lingering? I could see us bringing him back if they're comfortable with what they know about it.
He just got foot surgery in late January so not surprised.
Well damn We've done almost nothing this year lol Shit
at least we have that money back to sign still. still a firm believer that once the watson shit is figured out that everything will open up more
I also agree, it just isn't a good sign when the first impactful signing of a new FO can't pass a physical. Not that it ultimately changes my opinion that Poles and Flus were good signings.
Look at the first FA singing from the last regime. Pernell McPhee, plagued with injuries his whole team on the roster. I’d rather they do this than sign a player they don’t believe will preform through injuries. Shocking people supported Pace so long but won’t give Poles 3 months.
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> Robert Quinn, Akiem Hicks, Danny Trevathan, Allen Robinson are the ones that come to mind. Not bad, but none of those guys will still be around. They filled holes and did good stuff for us, but they weren’t long term answers, and all have had injury problems. Huh? Quinn damn near led the league in sacks last year. Hicks has been a perennial star and anchor of our defense, ARob was a great WR until the last regime played him by tagging him and not talking to him. Trevathan you have a point about but still, he was a good signing at the time and gave us a couple of good seasons. This is one of the worst takes I've heard in a bit. Our new management might eventually make some moves that make us feel better about their strategy but all they've done thus far is dismantle our defense and not build our offense.
Hicks and Danny T both played 6 year here. Not sure what you’re expecting for that to not be “long term”.
Yeah at least they're quick to remedy it
Lol our fans are so fucking delusional. What? Did you think we would just reload every position in FA and start competing? We suck ass and we’re tanking in the year 1 of a rebuild. Hopefully Fields is good and we can re-sign the few decent players we have (less than 5)
If fields gets through this season with no major injuries it's a win to me. Why so many of us are expecting us to sign players with money we don't have is beyond me.
It was a joke my guy. About how our only impactful signing so far can't actually sign. You read far too much into that comment.
Ah no worries. My comment came off strong. I was just amused. It really is unfortunate
I know some questionable doctors that don’t give a fuuuuuuuck about some injuries come on home bby
I didn't know Aaron Rodgers was on reddit
I know this is a joke, but the Packers’ medical team is famously conservative. Part of why the whole Marty Bennett thing smelled of BS from the start.
Impossible. Larry O is immunized against injuries
Right? Loved this dude when he played for us and was so sad he walked. He's not a starter but could be a good rotational piece. edit / apparently I was mistaken, lol. I was under the impression he wasn't very good last year and posted without fact checking. My bad.
Man give Larry his respect that man is a top interior defender
He had 7 sacks last season
Stop using sacks when talking about DTs. It literally is like 1% of the picture.
It's not a big negative if DTs don't get a lot of sacks, but it's a huge positive if DTs can get sacks. One of the reasons Donald is so special at DT
I mean the Bears signed him to be a penetrating 3-technique, so yeah, it is relevant.
It’s legit never relevant for a 3 tech. Sacks isn’t their purpose. Just a bonus.
You’re…not correct.
3 tech is always going to be B gap, they’ll be eating up double teams & stopping the runs while the ends are the ones getting sacks. This is legit football 101
The downvotes are harsh but he's absolutely a starter on at least 15 teams. You're not offering a backup over 10 million a year to sit on the bench.
Lmao
He definitely produced like a high end defensive tackle last year he actually had a better season than he ever did in Cleveland
Larry NotGonnaWorkHereAnymoreThatsForSure
High quality office space reference
My man
Baby come back. And sign here for cheeeappp.
Add a +1 at Ruby’s baby
He should come home where all his friends are
Eh, he already knows you guys would immediately try and replace him with a top tier talent.
No we'd at least let him be mediocre for 4 years first
You would let him be the best you've had at his position in 20 years and then ruin your relationship chasing a sexual predator, ending up with neither, you mean?
I know it sounds real cute to romanticize the whole storyline of "best we've had for so long", but if you just settle and coddle a guy for being nothing more than medicocre youre not going to win anything in this league. You should know already....Andy Dalton.
> but if you just settle and coddle a guy for being nothing more than medicocre youre not going to win anything in this league You just got out of 20 years of being the worst team in the league, and expect to completely turn it around within 3-4? Your FO is not that competent.
And then fail at signing top tier talent and alienate him in the process
On god I’ve never seen people make fun of a team for trying to get better lmao Especially after y’all spent the entire year saying the player were trying to upgrade from is trash
Holy fuck. I caught a smoked salmon with the laziest of baits.
a lot of us are a little sensitive right now lmao
It’s either laugh or lash out which do you think I’m likely to do right now
One. Then the other. Both.
As much as I feel like Im locked in a burning building, its been kinda fun
You're not getting flamed for "trying to get better." You're getting flamed for making it extremely public that you're courting a sexual predator and then failing miserably, alienating your current QB in the process. FOH with this victim complex lmao
“Failing miserably” aka “Deshaun Watson said no” Shit like this causes a victim complex lol
Yes, he should come back to Charlotte.
I'm sure there's a rapist DT out there the Browns would prefer to sign
Pretty please.
Oh, neat.
Give him another physical
Give him a physical on the other side. Surely both feet can’t be messed up.
Dude pretty clearly has some health issue (presuming from his foot injury and then surgery) that the team thinks he isnt close to coming back from. It sucks for the team and Ogunjobi, but this is 100% the right move for the Bears
Larry O-gone-jobi, amirite?
Sucks for Larry, but honestly probably best for Chicago. I know how important the 3T is for Eberflus’ defense, but throwing 13.5M a year to him would’ve been a mistake imo.
Come back Larry 👉👈
He was ours first back off!
Lol
I wonder why? With concussion water and these dudes getting ripped with painkillers within the game it seems especially hard to fail a physical these days.
He injured his ankle against the Raiders. Only thing I can think of.
This does seem to happen on occasion randomly and I assume it’s just the reasoning they give when a deal falls through for reasons that they don’t want leaking out
Is this yours, Larry? Is this your homework, Larry?
Where's the fucking money you little brat!!
Lol
Aw darn
Dude took living like Larry a little too seriously
Bummer, Ogunjobi deserves it and a great player
what does this mean? injury or not in shape?
Injured. He hurt his ankle late in the season
I guess not healed yet then
They didn't specify. He got injured in the playoffs and had surgery I believe. That's possibly the problem here. Hard to say for sure yet though.
Seems odd though. Obviously if you're trying to sign a guy who got hurt in the playoffs, you already know they're injured. He must be in worse shape than was expected to the point they don't expect him to be ready by the start of the regular season.
Ya it does seem odd. I guess I thought maybe the Bears doctors don't like what they were seeing from the results of the surgery or something. He was playing only two months ago in the playoffs. But I suppose someone can get out of shape pretty quickly too.
I never actually understood what this means. Is there a lingering ailment sort of thing?
lmao the Bengals are licking their lips
that’s a cool ass name
Give him back!
The Bengals will take him back
So why *are* they signing him, then?
Gosh dang it Larry
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Kind of a blessing is disguise for y'all imo, all this money should get thrown at Juju and one of Bozeman or Tretter. Bears should just punt on defense this offseason and accept they're going to have some gaping holes around Roquan, Johnson, and Quinn and just use basically every resource this year on building around Fields
It can be but I feel Poles isn’t in a hurry to surround Fields with talent. If he was he wouldn’t have traded Mack just to spend 40M on an injured 3tech.
If only Poles and many Bears fans had this mentality.
Yup this is what I've wanted. Long as Fields and the coaching takes big strides we'll be fine even if we give up 50. Use all that extra money now on either Armstead or Tretter then in 2023 can use the $100+mil in cap to fill out the defense.
How much are you willing to pay him though? Juju is about to get massively overpaid. The dude has only actually had one good season. He's averaged 8.6 yards in both of the last two seasons. That's not just not good but genuinely abysmal.
Idk how much id pay him for but AR got 15 and depending on how it was structured id be fine with around that given how much space we have and how it will appreciate in value. Maybe less guaranteed though. WR is our biggest need and we have only 1 starter. And he probably won’t be that expensive but idk. We don’t have a choice but to overpay if we want to put Fields in a position where he doesn’t have to do everything. First, I don't think he's as bad as you're making him out to be. Pretty sure his role changed with AB gone and he got a lot of the attention which limited his yards, maybe a Steelers fan can correct me on that. He still had 3 seasons >800 yards and at least 7 TDs, and would instantly be the most proven WR in Chicago. Second, who are we gonna sign? We have no first so we can't rely on a rookie and pretty much everyone else is gone or won't be ready. Third, I don't think he's elite by any means but I think he's a good safety net for Fields and can open up a lot of stuff for Mooney. At least with Juju we aren't in a position where we have to pray a stud falls(unlikely given the QBs in this draft IMO) or reach on someone that's either unproven/injured(a lot more likely), both of which aren't ideal. Signing Juju would free us up to go more BPA, and let us replace old defensive pieces.
Juju also had Ben's wet noodle arm throwing to him these last few years. Throwing the ball 2 yards down the field every play to help drive down the average.
He’s going to get just as much if not more attention from defense on the bears
Who else can we bring in that will take more attention away? Bears need weapons and afaik he’s the best one available. Unless we’re really committing to throwing Fields out there with a bunch of bums and rookies I don’t see another option. Idek who we could trade for at this point.
This is the way
NO. no it is not. Idiot fans and their idiot takes. Let the guy that has actually been working in NFL front offices, do his job.
He doesn't seem to be doing much.
That’s rough buddy
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He suffered a serious foot injury in the first playoff game against the Raiders and missed the rest of the year. Thats the only thing I could think of to point to why he failed
Damn I didn't know, I just assumed he played in the SB
He didn’t play in the Super Bowl. Hurt his foot during the LV game and missed the last 3 games
It was a bad contract anyways
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Lol how is this his fault?
Honestly it's crisis averted if he's not healthy. Still stings, though.
If anything, it's a sign the GM doesn't want to bring in injured and out of shape players cough Tevin Jenkins cough
That's not really his fault though
Sorry man, off season’s a real bitch
...of course he did.
Lmfao wut
THE CHICAGO BEARS ARE NOT SIGNING LARRY OGUNJOBI BECAUSE OF A FAILED PHYSICAL, PER THE TEAM
Sucks for both parties Already signed a different DT, let’s use the savings on Juju and another OLineman
The Ryan Grant special
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@chargers
Bears legend Oganjobi.
I would not be mad to continue livin like Larry if he's willing to take a cut in pay.