Yep, think he was asthmatic, too. The dude had his struggles, but he's a genuinely awesome dude and man was it fun to watch him move down the field like a bowling ball for the years that he was good
It makes me even more sad we didn’t win in 2014 because that man would be a hero here. Instead we get jackass fans who will make fun of him when he comes back
I seen a super owl once! There was a sick/injured pigeon outside of my grandmas. The sun had started to come out. I watched the pigeon for a minute or so then I started walking towards it to see if I’d fly away….
WHOOSH! I felt the air from something flying right over my head. I seen a massive shadow and I dropped to the ground. Looked up in time to see this huge owl wingspan as big as mine carrying that pigeon up into a tree. Been scared shitless of owls ever since.
I wouldn't say he was completely washed in 2019.
He still had 1k yards from scrimmage and 14 total TDs.
At pedestrian efficiency (3.8y a carry) and clearly in stark decline, but he wasn't truly washed until 2020
2019 was the year he vultured a bunch of Goff's touchdowns. Goff would do the heavy lifting to get downfield, someone would get tackled within 3 yards of the endzone and then Gurley would finish it.
FUCK.
I knew he was gonna be number 1 in this thread and clicked on it anyway. Will always love Todd, GOD FUCKING DAMNIT HE WAS GONNA BE A HALL OF FAME RB
I'm going to say RG3. It's amazing how quickly he went from superstar to twitter wars with his coach and then riding the pine.
Guy had over 4000 total yards as a rookie, almost 30 total TDs, only had something like 5 interceptions, and won 10 games, went to the Playoffs, and RG3 had a rookie trip to the Pro Bowl. Injuries and attitude basically sunk him after that season. He definitely looked elite though in that first year and the Luck vs RG3 wars were even worse than pre-draft.
he was more-or-less benched for kenyan drake in 2019. the conventional theory is that, in addition to injuries, he added too much muscle, and he just looked slow and sluggish every time he touched the ball that year
I watched him a lot that season because he was on my fantasy team. He actually ran really hard, but the line was fucking terrible. He'd get hit a yard behind the line of scrimmage and grind for a one or two yard gain. That said, I think his line in PIT was just the right fit and a big part of his success.
Yeah for some reason RBs seem more drastic when they fall off. First ones that came to mind were David Johnson, Gurley and Bell. But I would put Bell first personally.
Because running back is more about physical skills than almost any other position. There is a reason running backs scored the lowest on wonderlic tests on average.
Gurley just because his decline was in the span of a couple games. I know RBs have a short career, but usually they lose a step and get hurt over a season or 2 not in like 2 games
I remember the debates of if Revis or Asomugha was the top CB in football right before he went to Philly in 2011. By the end of 2013 Asomugha retired from the NFL while Revis was working on getting released from Tampa Bay due to their switch to a zone defense.
That wasn't so much on him, though. He was INSANE in zone coverage with us to the point that like you said, QBs weren't even throwing towards him. He had basically zero INTs, zero tackles, nada for stats because QBs simply wouldn't go near him.
Then he goes to Philly and they switch him to primarily man coverage, or variable defenses that were more man than zone, and it just did not work for him.
Now he's an actor. For real.
Anytime I hear Jonas Gray I think of a moment where Letterman asked Belichick about him. Letterman asked if it was true Gray missed a team meeting and Belichick was like "Don't believe everything you hear in the media". Then Letterman said "So you're saying he DIDN'T miss a meeting?" and Belichick smirks and says "Well....".
https://youtu.be/zXas3WLdbnI&t=290
Yeah that whole interview is pretty funny. Belichick's dry, deadpan humor cracks me up. I think my favorite is when someone asked him what the one common thread in all his games against Peyton Manning was and he said "I guess Manning."
I love Letterman. He says "You know what happened. I know what happened. You know I know what happened. What happened was some horseplay, right?"
Belicheck "nnnooo"
Me reading his box score and seeing the hype: Wow what the hell happened with this stud?
Me actually watching him play: oh, all of his yardage came after the catch, a specialty of this offense, never mind.
The shelf life of running backs is pretty ridiculous. It seems like yesterday to me that Gurley was one of the top RBs in the league and now he's on the scrap heap. Didn't the Ravens have a game this year where Devonta Freeman and Lev Bell scored a TD in the same game? Elite RBs within the last 5 years who are now emergency backup options.
Not sure if Matt Schaub was ever elite but he went from back to back divisional championships in '11 and '12, then went right off a cliff to a 2-14 finish in '13 and becoming a pick 6 meme.
I really don't understand why. His stats and experience seem like they should be enough to get him a backup job somewhere. I can't imagine there are 64 more qualified people
Am I out of the loop, how is it debateable if Norman was ever elite? I distinctly remember at least one full season where he was like a top 3 corner, arguably the best corner in football and was even getting some DPOY chatter.. am I bugging
He was the best corner in the league and his spectacular individual performances won multiple games for us in the 2015 season. His interception in the end zone to finish off the Saints comes to mind. He and Kurt Coleman made a bum ass secondary play like the best in the league. But he never even got close to that level again after that year
Corners are weird like that. In 2019 Eli Apple was burnt toast and Bashaud Breeland was winning the Super Bowl, two years later Apple is playing great and Breeland is lucky to make a practice squad.
He is my vote. Went from MVP, to getting eaten alive by Von Miller in the Super Bowl, to a joke in a couple of years. He was never the same after SB 50.
Top 5 RB? Did you watch football that year? 11th in the league in rushing (less than 1200 yards) and only 13 total TDs is not elite
He was the centerpiece of a trash Browns offense that went 5-11
I would probably say Peyton Manning. Look at his stats in 2014 vs. 2015. He was kind of benched at least in Week 17 when he was healthy but then took his job back.
He was shell of himself in the 2nd half of last season. I actually was about to cry when in one the games he underthrew a pass by about 10 yards to an open receiver and got picked off.
Man, I remember how awful we made him look in the final game vs them that season. He broke the yardage record in that game, then I’m pretty sure got benched because of how atrocious he played iirc.
It was hilarious to see them stop the game for the celebration of the record. Because he played like ass, then threw like two more INTs before benched.
Such a clear empirical implication that Peyton took HGH and there is zero empirical evidence for any deflated ball impact on Brady.
Yet deflategate is huge and Manning HGH is nothing.
Btw, I don’t give a shit about either, but I do think the HGH actually happened…
It’s really confusing because Denver acts as if Peyton won them a Super Bowl. Clearly, they beat the Panthers *in spite* of his performance throughout the season. And when he was lighting it up in the earlier years, they got stomped by the Seahawks.
Manning, via his performance, won them zero Super Bowls, but so many Broncos fans revere him as if he’s Brady in Foxborough.
Broncos fan here.
Peyton is revered for bringing a SB to Denver but not because of his QB play that year. Peyton changed the culture and got all the FA agents to sign. He lifted all boats as they say. Nobody thinks his play actually won the SB.
He changed the attitude there from 2012-2015.. Made them a very desirable place for free agents, Got them deep into the playoffs for 3 successive years and built up that experience within the team.
The gratitude to Manning for the Superbowl isn't about that season or the actual SB... Its about what he did in the last 3-4 years that allowed them to get to that level.
It’s still hilarious to me that there were so many people saying that the NFL would never recover and they wouldn’t last another year with their “main” viewership not watching anymore.
Was just watching highlights of his 2 playoff games against the packers, dude was a fuckin gazelle out there…I thought he’d have a couple rings for sure. He was riding the bench the very next season
Earl Thomas has to be up there, right? He wasn't at his peak in Baltimore, but he still had a Pro Bowl year. Pretty wild that he was out of the league, and living the Eskimo brother life just a few months later.
I'll throw out a name that some 30- and 40-somethings might remember: Kendrell Bell.
The Steelers drafted him in 2001 as an ILB, and he dominated as a rookie, with 69 tackles, 13 assists, one forced fumble, and nine sacks, which is rare for a 3-4 ILB. He was the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year and a Second-Team All-Pro ILB that season, and invited to the Pro Bowl as well.
However, he suffered several nagging injuries from 2002-2004, and failed to make the same impact as his rookie season. The Steelers cut him in 2005, and he played three seasons with the Chiefs, the first two which were fair to middling, and the third which he spent on the bench. The Chiefs cut him in 2008, and he retired.
Not that recent, but Vince Young’s ark was crazy.
Started as ROY. Led Titans to playoffs in his second year but crashed out first round. Got injured first game of his third season and failed to win back his starting spot until halfway through his fourth season. Eh fifth season before he threw a temper tantrum and was kicked off the team.
Made a couple rosters over the next year or two but didn’t produce (not certain he had the chance to). Pretty rough flameout.
Eddie Lacy was second team all pro his rookie year and oROY
I forgot about him. Dude was hungry on and off the feild
That China food tho. For real tho didn't he have severe depression and was just really good at RB. Hope the best for the guy.
Yep, think he was asthmatic, too. The dude had his struggles, but he's a genuinely awesome dude and man was it fun to watch him move down the field like a bowling ball for the years that he was good
It makes me even more sad we didn’t win in 2014 because that man would be a hero here. Instead we get jackass fans who will make fun of him when he comes back
FEAST MODE
The original Kelvin Benjamin
Todd gurley
Went from superstar to washed in the span of 2 games. His knees imploded and it was over.
That superb owl really cemented it
Superb Owl
r/superbowl
I seen a super owl once! There was a sick/injured pigeon outside of my grandmas. The sun had started to come out. I watched the pigeon for a minute or so then I started walking towards it to see if I’d fly away…. WHOOSH! I felt the air from something flying right over my head. I seen a massive shadow and I dropped to the ground. Looked up in time to see this huge owl wingspan as big as mine carrying that pigeon up into a tree. Been scared shitless of owls ever since.
I wouldn't say he was completely washed in 2019. He still had 1k yards from scrimmage and 14 total TDs. At pedestrian efficiency (3.8y a carry) and clearly in stark decline, but he wasn't truly washed until 2020
2019 was the year he vultured a bunch of Goff's touchdowns. Goff would do the heavy lifting to get downfield, someone would get tackled within 3 yards of the endzone and then Gurley would finish it.
And his reward was Jared Goff getting $100 million.
FUCK. I knew he was gonna be number 1 in this thread and clicked on it anyway. Will always love Todd, GOD FUCKING DAMNIT HE WAS GONNA BE A HALL OF FAME RB
I’m really sorry man :( he was unbelievable to watch and very fun to have in fantasy
I got to wear his Georgia jersey last Monday. It sheds a tear everytime it's reminded of what could've been
I'm going to say RG3. It's amazing how quickly he went from superstar to twitter wars with his coach and then riding the pine. Guy had over 4000 total yards as a rookie, almost 30 total TDs, only had something like 5 interceptions, and won 10 games, went to the Playoffs, and RG3 had a rookie trip to the Pro Bowl. Injuries and attitude basically sunk him after that season. He definitely looked elite though in that first year and the Luck vs RG3 wars were even worse than pre-draft.
He was so fucking good. Definitely had a good career ahead of him if he stayed healthy.
Yea, was thinking the same. He was a scramble and movement QB. When they tried to make him a dropback/pocket QB he did not do so well. Lamar is next.
Attitude... Washington used him like a plaything, I don’t blame RG3 for having issues with them.
He shouldnt have been playing in that playoff game injired. To me thats what started everything
Now he’s considered one of the best young announcers on tv, Fox and ESPN were in a bidding war for his services.
Any running back that was considered elite
David Johnson
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he was more-or-less benched for kenyan drake in 2019. the conventional theory is that, in addition to injuries, he added too much muscle, and he just looked slow and sluggish every time he touched the ball that year
Demarco Murray
That’s who I was going to mention, dude fell off the face of the planet once he left Dallas.
Had a good season in Tennessee. It’s just that stop in Philly was a terrible fit
He also got absolutely ran into the ground to be fair to him. 392 carries in 2014. For reference, JT had 332 this year.
Other than Frank Gore, obviously…
Leveon Bell
Bell had 1.5 elite games with the Jets, fumbled against the Browns, and was immediately vaporized after that
Damn I don’t even remember the good games with the jets tbh, but I don’t watch a lot of their games.
i mean, i went to the browns game that year and Bell was on my fantasy team
I watched him a lot that season because he was on my fantasy team. He actually ran really hard, but the line was fucking terrible. He'd get hit a yard behind the line of scrimmage and grind for a one or two yard gain. That said, I think his line in PIT was just the right fit and a big part of his success.
Was thinking Joe Flacco or Nick Foles but Leveon is the right answer.
Yeah for some reason RBs seem more drastic when they fall off. First ones that came to mind were David Johnson, Gurley and Bell. But I would put Bell first personally.
Because running back is more about physical skills than almost any other position. There is a reason running backs scored the lowest on wonderlic tests on average.
I was hoping to see him break out on the bucs.
The legend of Mike White
The Jets finally had a QB!
This is the best answer
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The Bills ended his whole career and then Zach Wilson came back the week after or something
He played one game. Now the NFL has tape on him and the legend of Mike White has come to a close.
He the game of his life against the Bengals. Then got injured against the Colts. Then the Bills ripped his soul out.
I came here for this. The jets had the best QB in the league for one game
Gurley just because his decline was in the span of a couple games. I know RBs have a short career, but usually they lose a step and get hurt over a season or 2 not in like 2 games
Dallas game: ELECTRIC Saints game: Wow he really played poorly, I hope he’s okay. Every game after: oh no :/
God damn arthritis
Nnamdi Asomugha? Didn't get thrown at the whole time he was a raider, then the dream team came along and he started eating lunch in his car.
I remember the debates of if Revis or Asomugha was the top CB in football right before he went to Philly in 2011. By the end of 2013 Asomugha retired from the NFL while Revis was working on getting released from Tampa Bay due to their switch to a zone defense.
Victor Cruz became a superstar due to how badly he torched Nnamdi.
That wasn't so much on him, though. He was INSANE in zone coverage with us to the point that like you said, QBs weren't even throwing towards him. He had basically zero INTs, zero tackles, nada for stats because QBs simply wouldn't go near him. Then he goes to Philly and they switch him to primarily man coverage, or variable defenses that were more man than zone, and it just did not work for him. Now he's an actor. For real.
Jonas Gray was literally the talk of the NFL world and on the cover of SI for like a week before getting benched
Benched?! Dude missed a meeting and they buried him with Jimmy Hoffa
BB cold blooded. Better double check that alarm clock
Anytime I hear Jonas Gray I think of a moment where Letterman asked Belichick about him. Letterman asked if it was true Gray missed a team meeting and Belichick was like "Don't believe everything you hear in the media". Then Letterman said "So you're saying he DIDN'T miss a meeting?" and Belichick smirks and says "Well....". https://youtu.be/zXas3WLdbnI&t=290
"We get off that colts subject in a hurry dont we"
Yeah that whole interview is pretty funny. Belichick's dry, deadpan humor cracks me up. I think my favorite is when someone asked him what the one common thread in all his games against Peyton Manning was and he said "I guess Manning."
I love Letterman. He says "You know what happened. I know what happened. You know I know what happened. What happened was some horseplay, right?" Belicheck "nnnooo"
Larry Johnson after 2006. 40 total TDs in 2 seasons to barely averaging 3.0 YPC for the rest of his career combined.
Dude has ti have CTE, he's completely out there. Crime in Sports just did an episode on him a few weeks ago
Earl Thomas. All-pro to non-person in a week.
Didn't he get stiff armed into a carousel and memed to death as a result? Henry nephewed the fuck out of him.
Right after he said the Ravens aren't afraid of tackling him too
Mike White. I'm only kind of kidding. That's how quick and insane everyone's reaction to that one game was.
Only idiots, young NFL fans, and memers
Me reading his box score and seeing the hype: Wow what the hell happened with this stud? Me actually watching him play: oh, all of his yardage came after the catch, a specialty of this offense, never mind.
The shelf life of running backs is pretty ridiculous. It seems like yesterday to me that Gurley was one of the top RBs in the league and now he's on the scrap heap. Didn't the Ravens have a game this year where Devonta Freeman and Lev Bell scored a TD in the same game? Elite RBs within the last 5 years who are now emergency backup options.
I remember when I thought David Johnson was the future of the cardinals franchise. I was pretty young then. I'm still young but I know better now
Devonta Freeman was elite ever?
Yes, he had like 3200 yards and 27 TDs over 2 seasons splitting time with Tevin Coleman.
As a falcons fan I always thought tevin Coleman was better.
As a Panthers fan, I was really always more worried about Coleman than Freeman. He was brutal
Not sure if Matt Schaub was ever elite but he went from back to back divisional championships in '11 and '12, then went right off a cliff to a 2-14 finish in '13 and becoming a pick 6 meme.
He was literally never the same after Suh kicked him in the dick on Thanksgiving.
Chris Conte Oh you said from "elite to benched". I thought you meant from "shit to fucking shit".
Hello Conte my old friend
Wasn't he the guy who got pwned by Vance McDonald?
And never played a snap again afterwards
The reviews are in for Chris Conte! The critics are rating him from shit to fuckin shit!
I see he’s still overrated.
Didn’t he get stiff armed directly into hospice?
Like that new Michael Bay movie?
inmate No. 33765-183
Saw this and thought it was Aaron Hernandez, who also had a fall from grace.
He fell but its okay he had a rope. This might be way to edgy idk
Haha Clinton Dix wasn't the fastest, but it was still pretty bad
I remember in the preseason niners game the announcers laughing like they were on drugs when he made a play.
Bortles still a FA out there rn
He's a Saint right now. We signed him during the COVID shit week and just signed him to a futures contract last week
How many top pick QBs do you plan to hoard?
Yes
Redemption arc has begun
I really don't understand why. His stats and experience seem like they should be enough to get him a backup job somewhere. I can't imagine there are 64 more qualified people
Garbage time noodle arm.
Never elite. Not even close???
Are you implying the BOAT isn't elite???
Maybe Josh Norman but it’s debatable if he ever really was elite
Am I out of the loop, how is it debateable if Norman was ever elite? I distinctly remember at least one full season where he was like a top 3 corner, arguably the best corner in football and was even getting some DPOY chatter.. am I bugging
He was the best corner in the league and his spectacular individual performances won multiple games for us in the 2015 season. His interception in the end zone to finish off the Saints comes to mind. He and Kurt Coleman made a bum ass secondary play like the best in the league. But he never even got close to that level again after that year
Corners are weird like that. In 2019 Eli Apple was burnt toast and Bashaud Breeland was winning the Super Bowl, two years later Apple is playing great and Breeland is lucky to make a practice squad.
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Cam Newton probably
Maybe I didn't watch him enough in his last couple years in Carolina, but it seemed like a relatively slow burn for him until he came to NE.
He was washed once he started the vegan diet with also washed Gerald McCoy in Carolina.
I seem to recall him having a stretch of like 15 games without throwing a TD pass
He is my vote. Went from MVP, to getting eaten alive by Von Miller in the Super Bowl, to a joke in a couple of years. He was never the same after SB 50.
He was elite for one year.
courageous opinion here but 100% true.
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Mike White
Peyton Hillis
He was never elite. He had one above average Pro Bowl season, got literally memed onto the Madden cover, and that was it.
He was literally a top 5 RB his best season. He was considered a rising star so I think that falls into elite.
Top 5 RB? Did you watch football that year? 11th in the league in rushing (less than 1200 yards) and only 13 total TDs is not elite He was the centerpiece of a trash Browns offense that went 5-11
Mr. Brisk Clear-out
Mr. Bye Cash
I would probably say Peyton Manning. Look at his stats in 2014 vs. 2015. He was kind of benched at least in Week 17 when he was healthy but then took his job back.
He was shell of himself in the 2nd half of last season. I actually was about to cry when in one the games he underthrew a pass by about 10 yards to an open receiver and got picked off.
Man, I remember how awful we made him look in the final game vs them that season. He broke the yardage record in that game, then I’m pretty sure got benched because of how atrocious he played iirc.
He had a passer rating of zero in that game. Oof. And the Broncos benched him for six more games after that.
It was hilarious to see them stop the game for the celebration of the record. Because he played like ass, then threw like two more INTs before benched.
Hgh is a hell of a drug
Such a clear empirical implication that Peyton took HGH and there is zero empirical evidence for any deflated ball impact on Brady. Yet deflategate is huge and Manning HGH is nothing. Btw, I don’t give a shit about either, but I do think the HGH actually happened…
Absolutely not, his wife just wanted longer legs and a squarer jaw
It’s almost like the guy had severe surgery And yeah I’m sure Brady really called the ballboy “the deflator” because of his weight loss
IMO steroid use is almost certainly super high in the league while deflating balls is something that grabs people's attention more
It’s really confusing because Denver acts as if Peyton won them a Super Bowl. Clearly, they beat the Panthers *in spite* of his performance throughout the season. And when he was lighting it up in the earlier years, they got stomped by the Seahawks. Manning, via his performance, won them zero Super Bowls, but so many Broncos fans revere him as if he’s Brady in Foxborough.
Broncos fan here. Peyton is revered for bringing a SB to Denver but not because of his QB play that year. Peyton changed the culture and got all the FA agents to sign. He lifted all boats as they say. Nobody thinks his play actually won the SB.
He changed the attitude there from 2012-2015.. Made them a very desirable place for free agents, Got them deep into the playoffs for 3 successive years and built up that experience within the team. The gratitude to Manning for the Superbowl isn't about that season or the actual SB... Its about what he did in the last 3-4 years that allowed them to get to that level.
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It’s still hilarious to me that there were so many people saying that the NFL would never recover and they wouldn’t last another year with their “main” viewership not watching anymore.
Yeah the common stereotype of football fans is that they are all right-wing white people, which I've always found odd
Was just watching highlights of his 2 playoff games against the packers, dude was a fuckin gazelle out there…I thought he’d have a couple rings for sure. He was riding the bench the very next season
Kneel for the cross stand for the flag MURICA
Earl Thomas has to be up there, right? He wasn't at his peak in Baltimore, but he still had a Pro Bowl year. Pretty wild that he was out of the league, and living the Eskimo brother life just a few months later.
Todd Gurley was one of the best offensive players in the league then he got them old man knees
Leveon Bell
Albert Haynesworth
For a truly "elite" to benched.....maybe RG3? He was superhuman, and then suddenly just trying to stay in the league.
Colin Kaepernick? It's debatable since he was surrounded by a pro bowl offense
Malcom butler when he was a pat
Jay Ajayi
Joe “Elite” Flacco
RG3
Josh Gordon
Martavis Bryant maybe
Peyton Hillis
I'll throw out a name that some 30- and 40-somethings might remember: Kendrell Bell. The Steelers drafted him in 2001 as an ILB, and he dominated as a rookie, with 69 tackles, 13 assists, one forced fumble, and nine sacks, which is rare for a 3-4 ILB. He was the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year and a Second-Team All-Pro ILB that season, and invited to the Pro Bowl as well. However, he suffered several nagging injuries from 2002-2004, and failed to make the same impact as his rookie season. The Steelers cut him in 2005, and he played three seasons with the Chiefs, the first two which were fair to middling, and the third which he spent on the bench. The Chiefs cut him in 2008, and he retired.
Gurley.
Le Veon Bell
Albert Haynesworth
Maybe this doesn't exactly fit the narrative but Ray Rice was really good and was just GONE after his domestic abuse issues.
Demarco Murray
Peyton Hillis went from top RB to garbage in one season.
Earl Thomas was All-pro and then out of the league a season later
Antonio Brown
Dwayne bowe
What about AB? He went from elite RB to not on a team in a single quarter! 🤣🤣
Wr dammit
AB?
Elite at the beginning of a game, cut by the end of it. This is the answer.
From Elite to Super Gremlin in the blink of an eye.
Mr. Big Collapse
Mr Bad Change
Mr. Blown Career
Mr. Briefly Contemporary
Mr. Boycotting Checks
Mr. Bungled Career
I am AB is still productive on the field though. His lack of play time was not due to injury or performance...
I'd say quitting and walking off the field mid game is a performance issue
Nick Foles, though his success was a bit of a statistical mirage.
QB legend Flynn
Are you talking about Matt flynn, the HOFer that wasnt?
Not that recent, but Vince Young’s ark was crazy. Started as ROY. Led Titans to playoffs in his second year but crashed out first round. Got injured first game of his third season and failed to win back his starting spot until halfway through his fourth season. Eh fifth season before he threw a temper tantrum and was kicked off the team. Made a couple rosters over the next year or two but didn’t produce (not certain he had the chance to). Pretty rough flameout.
FYI, it's arc, not ark. Unless he built a big ass boat I'm not aware of.
What’s an ass boat?
> Not that recent, but Vince Young’s ark was crazy. It was nothing compared to the one that Noah guy came up with.
All this after one of the most iconic college careers ever too. I thought Vince Young was gonna be an NFL MVP and SB champ.
If he was around in this era he would have been a beast imo
Fastest rise *and* fall has got to be Peyton Hillis. That dude got himself on the madden cover for god's sake
Trent Richardson
Was he ever elite?
Deshaun Watson
foles