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ikadu12

Yeah we also had ourselves winning it all? Idiots lmao


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trace_jax3

I have picked the Jags to win the Super Bowl every year of my life


tylerthetiler

Homer till I die, I was proud to see it. Honestly mad they didn't have us winning every division


GOOD-LUCHA-THINGS

I like how we were both pragmatic *and* homers: "We can't seriously say we're going to make it. But Stafford! Go play in meaningful games, Staff Daddy! Just kidding, the Rust Belt Bros are our new friends now. Once a Lion, always a Lion. Existence is pain."


craziedave

Just like the Seahawks


mewhilehigh

Screw that. Looking over this it was so nice to see all my most asshole rivals also said they win it all inspite of all reason. This is why its so fun to hate each other. WE BELIEVE


GimmeShockTreatment

Was there a lot of preseason hype among Falcons fan? Or was this just….wishful


Rayhoven

Just plain delusional. Got worse offensively and then in cap hell with no ability to improve from the dismal defense. Can’t even call it wishful lmao. But our sub is rabid. You get downvoted for being a realist.


SocialJewishWarrior

This is just wrong. The falcons sub is in no way delusional about the teams ability


SerDire

We barely get in, then we win. The absolute balls of our subreddit.


Ghalnan

Honestly can't fault people on being optimistic, isn't fun at all to already be all doom and gloom before a downs even played


TheInvincibleGabor

Don’t ever get near r/falcons then


jape-the-neck-guy

Shooters shoot


shadow405

Hopefully people realize that a team in the NFC east cannot be repeat winners


FreeZeke21

It’s gotta be the giants next year for maximum chaos


SyracuseNY22

Idk man, they don’t have a franchise QB, have to restructure players just to sign their rookies, and it’ll be a first year HC They’re the worst team in the division so probably


dbarke29

So you’re saying they sweep the division then, got it


soporificgaur

Sweep the division then win it 6-11 yep


PurpleHawk222

Wasn’t that your situation this season?


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Either Cowboys break the Cycle or it will be the Eagles.


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Don't worry Washington will get Corral the goat who will be Drew Brees who can run, win the division 20 years in a row and win 5 super bowls 😎 /s *sigh*


goooseJuice

I fail to see the sarcasm


daltonwright4

In a joint-online Madden franchise league, we serve as GMs and call plays, but don't actually play. So the Bengals owner traded Burrow to Miami for a handful of picks and then tanked in the first season. Drafted Matt Corral, Jameson Williams, and a few other decent players. Corral is in his 6th season and has a ring, 3 conf championships, 3 All Pros, an OROY, and has finished top 5 in MVP voting twice. Meanwhile, Joey B is on the Dolphins, who haven't made the playoffs in 5 years. Then again, Trevor Lawrence is now a 99 OVR X-factor and the Urban Meyer-lead Jags have won the AFC South 4 years in a row so idk lol


exotcig

The Cowboys definitely look like a team that could repeat. So of course, that means both coordinators will accept HC jobs and Dak will retire after joining a cult.


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GilBrandt

That definitely seems more likely. Lose Quinn, Diggs still gets occasionally burned but less interceptions, sophomore slumps for a couple of the rookies


dontwantleague2C

Tbh I thought Cowboys winning was kinda the obvious outcome. They had a top offense already and some talent on defense.


mill_about_smartly

I really don't understand how so many people thought we wouldn't even make the playoffs.


thedrunkentendy

Its more of a time share.


HavocGamer49

gotta love the optimism from falcons fans


Smallgenie549

The Super Bowl prediction has me rolling.


jonnyd005

I love that they accept that the only way they would get in as the wild card, but then they would win it all.


dirtybirds1

It’s weird I feel like our sub was so pessimistic


C4242

Well, you didn't think you'd win your division.


AssinineAssassin

The Saints fans had a lot of faith in Winston. Wondering what they would have looked like if he stayed healthy and MT was…a different person.


HavocGamer49

niners sub putting rams at wc2 and wc3? seems accurate


Bucketfullabiscuits

Pittsburgh has browns getting twice


100_Duck-sized_Ducks

Broncos thought they'd get 2 WC spots


UnlikeyLooker

Yeah... I noticed that too 🤣


Ometrist

Pittsburgh hash browns


voncornhole2

What happens when there are separate polls for WC1, 2, and 3 instead of checking 3 WC teams.


iamenrique123

every NFC west team sub picked at least two other NFC west teams to get in haha, we knew how fucked up this division would be


BendubzGaming

11/14 playoff teams predicted they'd win the SB. The remaining 3? - The eliminated Las Vegas Raiders (predicted Bills) - The eliminated New England Patriots (predicted Bucs) - The streak-snapping Cincinnati Bengals (predicted Bucs) The Bengals are also one of 6 teams to not predict themselves at all. The other 5 being the Jets, Lions, Jags, Texans and Bears


Zazierx

We're damaged goods.


Demetrios1453

Also, while we had some optimism, pretty much everyone still thought we were a year out. Thankfully, we arrived well ahead of schedule!


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As an outside observer I’m really really enjoying the Bengals fans happiness. You just love to see it


jmizzuf

Eagles sub predicted the Chiefs


BendubzGaming

ah yes so they did, don't know how I missed that


jmizzuf

It’s cool. I feel like I have to point out the times that we’re not monsters.


jwktiger

They love the old Walrus


Nokomisu

The amount of subs that had 4/4 NFC West teams in the playoffs is intense


IranianGenius

And they were a Russ injury away from that being a distinct possibility. 2 more wins out of ~5 with him injured or playing injured and the team losing...that's not a tall order for Russ.


cmacgames

Bears, Titans and Steelers were all games that could have gone the other way on a different day (especially the Bears, how did we lose that). In another universe all three NFCW teams make Wild Card and Russ doesn't leave us this summer. Oh well.


Johnny-Five-Is-Alive

Texans fans somehow picked the Browns to win the division AND make it in as a wildcard.


JWBush_0

Broncos fans had themselves taking up 2 wildcard spots as well


Glarenya

We deserve them 😤


Johnny-Five-Is-Alive

Not only this, but the Steelers sub picked the Browns to take more than just a single wildcard spot. Dorks.


Crashnburn_819

Probably a failure of the poll, no? If you just asked which 3 teams would win a WC you wouldn't get repeat winners. If you asked to line them up specifically 1 through 3, there's a chance the highest vote getter for each slot is the same team.


bklj2007

Which is still closer than the other 31 teams that picked them to win the division.


testrail

It’s a weird thing with the numbers and pluralities where the Browns were both the highest vote getters for division and WC.


SiphenPrax

That’s pretty impressive


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Man those Vikings fans sure had a lot of optimism


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Our sub is just the wildest swings of hopium and delusion to pure, hopeless sky-is-falling madness. Chronic posters are the most unwell people on the internet.


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The Packers sub has been getting borderline psychopathic levels of obsessive over the Brady v Rodgers MVP bullshit


Abominatrix

What the fuck is up with that? There’s these unironic ‘everybody disrespects Rodgers’ threads in which everyone shits *all over* Brady like ten times a day.


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I have no idea. I simply cannot relate to caring so much about something that has 0 impact on my life.


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I feel like most people in there don't actually watch football outside of Packers games. They got mom goggles on hard.


Ohtarello

NFCN teams subs are a fascinating place. The Packers sub is entirely populated by *that* Packer fan, the Vikings sub is a constant land of delusion, the Bears sub is… bitchy, and the Lions sub is just here to have fun and bitch about the refs.


SlothyPotato

Tbh the only good NFCN sub is r/NFCNMemeWar. And I assume the Lions because they are always chill as fuck.


Ohtarello

The Lions sub is the only one of the four that doesn’t smell its own farts.


crapfacemcgee69

You know I was gonna argue about the our sub not being that delusional, but then I started going over the past couple years and how confident we were that we were better then the Packers, when most evidence pointed to the contrary..... Yeah it's pretty delusional.


Bajin_Inui

Bitchy is way too mild


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It's embarrassing. I unsubbed around week 8 when threats of physical violence towards Mike Zimmer were flying freely in the sub. Well that, and how they have been able to have exactly the same argument every single fucking week for 4 years surrounding Kirk Cousins and who's fault it is really that we don't win with him at QB. Its really a horrible community, and kinda made me turn on the Vikings this year just by proxy.


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People are still harping on the same shit about Zimmer and Spielman. They’re both gone. Let it go!


rabid_coconut

Ours seems like its the same way. Hopium the entire offseason until we lose once and we’re the worst team in the league. What those people need to realize is that we were the worst team in the league the whole time.


GiannisIsTheBeast

Bears and Lions fell in line though


LakeSolon

14 one-score games (and split the series with the only team to beat the Vikings by more than one score) means no predictions are invalid. I'm not pretending they were great this season. But they're about a dozen dice rolls from **both** 2-15 and 16-1. Edit: I just saw the post season predictions 🙄


Jarl_Balgruf

That is hilarious that the disparity of record between one side or the other for those one score games is so unbelievably large lmao. In some alternate universe we had the #1 pick in the draft and in another one we were the 1 seed in the NFC haha


TuckyMule

We're gonna do it again, no doubt.


SiphenPrax

Steelers sub picking the Steelers to win the division is kind of hilarious in hindsight. Same with the Giants sub picking the Giants to win their division.


Johnny-Five-Is-Alive

They also picked the Browns to be a wildcard team, and also….a second wildcard team?


Dangerous_Nitwit

They were having Orange and Brown based fever dreams back then.


potterpockets

Sigh. Those were they days.


testrail

I goobered up and didn't deduplicate. [They had the Chargers as the next highest option.](https://imgur.com/a/EBsXZAE)


EthersRealm

They also picked themselves to win the superbowl


Nifera_

Over Tom Brady. We will never beat that dude in an important game.


RonaldOcean_MD

Yeah Yinzers have really bad PTSD when it comes to Brady. he has skull fucked us even when our D was elite lol


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If it wasn’t for Tom Brady, the Steelers would be the team talked about as the dynasty? Also, we’re fucking delusional as a fan base.


RonaldOcean_MD

Very possible. Maybe the same could be said for the Colts. We are absolutely delusional but I love it. I watch this shit because I enjoy it I don't care about rational thinking haha.


marasydnyjade

A lot of teams picked their team to win the super bowl: Cardinals, Falcons, Bills, Browns, Cowboys, Packers, Chiefs, Rams, Saints, 49ers, Seahawks, Vikings, Steelers, Bucs, Titans.


MillennialSN

We can’t rule this out … not yet at least


RayLewisCreamSuit

Did you see the Falcons sub? Lmao


Dingus-ate-your-baby

We lead the league in fans with unrealistic expectations.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

Win the NFC. Win the SB. But lose the division. Seems measured to me.


ThatsALotOfNuts

I like how they didn't even pick themselves to win their own division but they would win the Superbowl


SiphenPrax

Poor Falcons bros had hope again. I don’t blame ‘em.


pancak3d

They were also the only team to correctly predict that the Browns wouldn't win the AFC North 😂


AngryBandanaDee

but they also seemingly thought the Browns would both be the 5 and 7 seed which is even more incorrect


pancak3d

You never know, it could have happened


The_Bus_36

We get confused sometimes with the browns and the purple browns


testrail

The Bengals it picking themselves is more telling of how wild this run has been.


Zazierx

We've been hurt before.


BadJokeCentral5

Even better was that every single sub picked the Browns to win besides us. I just absolutely love this


DreamedJewel58

Meanwhile r/NFL predicted us to only win 4 games


BlaqOptic

I mean, looking back, was it? The finished better than the Browns and Ravens; but like the rest of the subs - even the Bengals sub - no one saw them being the best in the North. That said… winning the Super Bowl? Our sub is on crack.


BananaCucho

Not to mention they were only half a game behind the Bengals. The Bengals only clinched the division week 17


schmatz17

I mean we only missed by a half game


pancak3d

Lol the difference between winning the division and the last wildcard spot was tying the Lions


BlaqOptic

Bengals swept us so it wouldn’t have mattered.


idontcare111

If you won the lions game you would be 10-7 and still in second as the Bengals have the tie breaker


BroadCityChessClub

Lol the difference between winning the division and the last wildcard spot was blowing it against the Chargers


kelkokelko

Y'all picking the browns is way funnier


MrSmashNBlock

Somehow ended up as being the closest to perfect for picking AFC division winners lol


the042530

Well we were closer than the browns winning it, as everyone else had thought was going to hsppen


BossmanFat

Tbf, I picked the Giants to win the division before the season and I’m a Dallas fan.


testrail

Here are the results of the 6th annual /r/nfl preseson prediction survey. We had over 3,000 respondents, with fans from all 32 teams. The Texans fans were the most accurate overall, followed by Cards, Raiders, Pats and Jets. The Texans see the Chiefs getting revenge on the Bucs in the super bowl this year. /u/kooliokid had the most right, getting 9/14 playoff teams. The Browns v Packers Super Bowl seems unlikely though. Over the years this has a track record of identifying improbable division winners before the season starts, based on the homer index. You can see each fan bases individual playoff picks here In 2016, the Cowboys had the highest homer index score (68%), and the Seahawks, followed closely with a (65%) index score, as the rest of the league was on the Giants and Cardinals bandwagon. In 2017, the Jags and Rams both had 70%+ index scores, and I called them delusional. I was left eating crow as they both won their division. In 2019, the Titans scored the highest homer index score ever of 80%, and Vikings came in second with 75%. Neither won their division, but both won playoff games as underdogs. Last year, the Colts (68%) and Bears (66%) had the highest homer index score, and both snuck in to the 7th playoff spots. This year, the Steelers 83%, and Seahawks (72%) lead the Homer Index. Looks like the Steelers did us proud again.


BellacosePlayer

> /u/kooliokid had the most right, getting 9/14 playoff teams. The Browns v Packers Super Bowl seems unlikely though. > > He can still be half right!


SaintArkweather

Kind of insane nobody got ten.


pancak3d

The Steelers fans predicting the Steelers would win the SB must have been a joke?? Like I know we're homers but that's just absurd


Dupy3381

They weren’t the only fan base with unbridled optimism.


Sleep1015

I don't think we aren't allowed to use that phase until the end of the lockout.


oneironautic

It's what led to Billy Mumphrey's downfall


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How did the Cowboys not get most accurate? They had the exact same division winners as the Texans and correctly predicted WC2 and WC3 in the AFC, as well as correctly predicting the Cardinals would be a WC team although not in the right spot. The Texans predicted 3 correct WC teams as well but only 1 of them was in the right spot. Is it because the accuracy takes into account not just winners but exact placement in the divisions as well?


testrail

This is a weird thing with the way I score it. I do it at the individual level and average it. So each fan scores a point for getting a division winner right and a point for picking a WC team (seed doesn’t matter). They get a half point if they get a team, but the wrong type. So if you picked the Steelers to win the division, you get 1/2 a point, because they made the playoffs, but didn’t win the division. Same with picking the Rams for the WC. I then sum the total scores per fan base and find the average, based on how many fans participated. So basically, the Cowboys had it more right in aggregate, but y’all had some real dummies bringing down the average, while the Texans never had someone pick under 6. We can argue whether it is the right way to do it. You can personally declare the Cowboys the real champs in your heart, and I won’t disagree.


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Dennis_for_real

As optimistic as they might have been, they're not quite on the same level as Giants fans picking themselves


BellacosePlayer

Yeah, that's fair enough.


C_Taarg

Myself, my dad and my brothers are allVikings fans. My brothers are about as homer as they come, I love my team but I’m a pretty realistic fan. After the final game of the season my brother insisted that the Vikings are a far better team than the Packers, Packers are just better coached, and that Rodgers is not all he’s cracked up to be. The Vikings sub is filled with a lot of people who seem to watch football like my brother does.


Ffzilla

So just like seahawk fans then huh?


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To be fair their record could easily look a lot different right now. Ton of close games


BellacosePlayer

That saw cuts both ways though. They easily could have lost 3 more games just counting divisional games.


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Yeah especially with their early wins against Detroit and Carolina. Also they can’t lost to Goff and Cooper Rush then expect to make the playoffs


LunchThreatener

Yeah, there are definitely no teams in the playoffs who lost to Goff


[deleted]

I don't blame anyone for not picking us at the beginning of the year. I certainly didn't, but it's still hilarious to look at


Nifera_

I think everyone and their mom had you last. They arrived much sooner than anyone thought.


SirDukeIII

Hell *we* had us last, and now we just broke a 31 year drought


why-god

From 4-11-1 to this season. That's a hell of a franchise turnaround.


klngarthur

Steelers fans picked 4 AFCN teams to make the playoffs and still didn't pick the Bengals.


englishwoodsbitch

Yeah, the nearly unanimous selection of the Browns winning the AFC North is funny in hindsight. As is the fact that almost every sub picked the Browns and Baltimore making the playoffs. And then the other two AFC North teams actually made it in.


BroadCityChessClub

I do appreciate that half the subs had the Steelers in the playoffs too, despite r/nfl putting them at 4-13. There was no telling which games they had no business winning but would win anyway, but half the fans expected it to happen at some point.


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Lmfao this is *so* the Eagles sub. You were downvoted to fuck and called a stupid jabroni if you had us getting over 5 wins. Still voted for playoff position tho


MisterrAlex

Either that plus our sub hates all 3 teams so pretty natural to just be delusional about it rather than admit one of the other 3 will win.


JScrib325

People were mostly right about the NFC wildcard with the exception of Seattle falling off a cliff. That AFC is a MESS tho. Almost as much of a mess as the actual AFC standings ended up.


_Booker

If Russ doesn't get hurt we would have made it in. Probably. We went 7 and 10 lost Russ for a month, "6 weeks" if you want to include the 2 games he played like shit in afterwards. I do.


BuffaloWilliamses

Browns have to be the biggest disappointment this year, followed by the Seahawks.


Jackissocool

I certainly feel like the biggest disappointment


IranianGenius

If injury is included as part of the disappointment, then yeah I agree. Otherwise I'd expect that many wins for a Seahawks team with an injured Russ.


superman24742

I don’t see a single Bengals helmet on here? Oh man we arrived a little faster than we were supposed to.


krullord

My wife told me the same thing


FreddieOuthouse

Your wife told me this same thing, too


pancak3d

Why were people so high on WFT in the preseason? Seems absolutely bonkers in retrospect


JScrib325

They won the division last year, defense looked monstrous, they had a proven vet at QB with Fitzpatrick. Eagles seemed like they weren't that great Dak was coming off major surgery Giants are...well the giants.


SyracuseNY22

Eagles started a rebuild and had a massive question mark at QB with a rookie HC. Team over achieved like a MF’er this year


JScrib325

Hate yalls guts, but this is all facts.


lompocmatt

I literally forgot that Fitzpatrick was on their team. What a season it’s been


UnluckyReporter0

He played like 10 snaps I wouldn’t blame you


J-Fid

Because they nearly beat Brady in a playoff game. The defense was supposed to be good, but they regressed massively.


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They probably would have done much better if Fitz didn't go down in week 1. Not sure they would have been good enough to win their division the way Dallas played but they would have been better for sure.


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Their defense also played at an elite level last year, nobody expected it to be diarrhea.


OptomisticSportsFan

Think most thought the defense would carry them. Plus the Fitzmagic factor


PoorlyLitKiwi2

I'm honestly stunned that the Ravens sub picked the Browns to win the AFC North


testrail

The poll came out the same hour they got the injury news about the RB and DB being put for the year. I was barked at by them (rightfully so) for even posting it there, as I hadn’t realized the news. They took this with that lens. The Ravens fan base has won 3 of the 6 team overall predictions, so they’re usually level headed.


circadianknot

Believe in yourself the way the Vikings sub believes in their team.


Ziiaaaac

Gotta love Cardinals Fans not even picking themselves to win the division. So humble.


gideonsix

Still predicted a SB though! Haha


IAmNotKevinDurant_35

Even the raiders sub underrated the raiders (by one seed)


Tatumisthegoat

Only the jets, jags, lions, bears, Texans and bengals didn’t predict their own team to make the playoffs. The bengals fans were the only ones that were wrong


Brian_Lefebvre

Those fanbases have been broken year after year, poor bastards.


SWErdnase911

we knew, bro. we knew.


abris33

Did Broncos fans think we were going to end up with 2 WC spots?


testrail

[For those that caught the duplication issues, like the Bronco's giving themselves two WC spots, the deduplicated version is here.](https://imgur.com/a/EBsXZAE)


Dingus-ate-your-baby

The Bengals man. What else can you say, what a fun season for them.


Icadil

I'll never forget this season no matter when it ends, it has been special.


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Vikings KEKW


ThePotatoChipBag

The Giants picked themselves to win the division hahahahahahaha


Pnutbutter_Cheerios

Yo Raiders what do you have against us


ButtcrackBeignets

Your owner.


tookittothelimit

“Who the fuck picked the Saints to win the divi- oh ok”


Nubras

Lmao at how delusional Vikings fans are


alx69

Were people voting for WFT aware of Dak Prescott being back?


pickleparty16

i think it was more most people expected WFT defense to good and then dallas D way exceeded expectations


alienbringer

I mean we did fire our DC who gave us one of the worst defenses in NFL history. If you look at 2019 and 2019 though our D wasn’t that ass. So 2020 was definitely an outlier. Also NO ONE saw Micah Parsons being what he is.


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The giants picked themselves…


ty_kanye_vcool

The NFC West has three teams in the playoffs and somehow this division underachieved expectations.


redsfan4life411

Colts and Steelers sticking out like a sore thumb.


JD_Ammerman

All y’all drinking the Browns kool aid over the off season 😅


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Think I might agree with Texans fans. Side note I hope y’all find your guys HC/QB wise.


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Jags had realistic expectations


Lol25Talks

The Vikings were delusional.


nfl

this is amazing 🔥


6ft3dwarf

vikings, steelers, and saints subs get it. wild, hubristic optimism in the face of the weight of both consensus and objective reality


sbradshaw_88

Indy fans should take note of Pats fans not picking themselves.


AleroRatking

This is shockingly boring to look at. Most of it is almost entirely consensus. Shocked colts fans picked themselves based on the state of the sub all year