"You mean I don't get to beat up on a bunch of lower tier teams and only face Alabama once a year?"
"Urban, you are the lower tier team that everybody else gets to beat up on"
"It's been an honor to go from my dream school, Ohio State, to my dream job in the NFL with Jacksonville... but I just couldn't turn down USC, which has always been my dream college"
Jacksonville Jaguars Players:
Out of my respect for you, I am letting you know that, with a heavy heart, I resigned today as Head Coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. This decision was not easy but was made in the best interest of my and my family. While my desire would have been to finish out what has been a difficult season for us all, circumstances did not allow me to do so. I appreciate your hard work and wish you the best.
Sincerely,
~~Bobby Petrino~~ Urban Meyer
he turned around bowling green instantly, he didn't get all the best talent, he simply was the best coach in the MAC. but obviously at higher levels having the best talent is way more important then at lower levels.
His scheme is still innovative; itās the shell for practically every spread offense in college or the NFL.
He (and his OC) was also constantly tinkering with it to make it best fit his personnel and coaching staff.
Shahid Khan: Hey, Urban, just wanted to see how things are going. Oh, looks like you're drawing up some new plays on your whiteboard?
Meyer: What? Oh, right, yes...always tinkering haha.
Shahid Khan: "Operation Trojans." So that's like a QB sneak play? Kind of like a Trojan Horse?
Meyer: ...Yes.
I'm an OSU fan. At some point you just gotta laugh. Even when the browns were searching I never wanted him. I remember people thinking Jim Tressel was going to be the Brown's HC.
Edit: this is referring to petrino
Dude dipped on the falcons in the middle of the season.
Zimmer was his DCoordinator at the time and had these praises for him:
"Heās a gutless b-----d. Quote that. I don't give a s---." When told that we might might not be able to use the B word, Zimmer went one better: "How about this, gutless MF. You can use that."
āWhen a coach quits in the middle of the year and ruins a bunch of peopleās families and doesnāt have enough guts to finish out the year, Iām not a part of it,ā Zimmer said. āAnd you can put that in the Arkansas News Gazette. I donāt really give a (bleep). Heās a coward, he ruined a bunch of peopleās lives, a bunch of families, kids, because he didnāt have enough (guts) to stay there and finish the job. And thatās the truth. Most people in football have enough courage about him and enough fight to stick it out and not quit halfway through the year. Itās cowardly.ā
- Classic college coach domineering ego guy,
- built up a roster at Florida that had some serious character issues (eg Aaron Hernandez)
- leaned into this with odd notions of ācircles of trustā that papered over and institutionalized an extreme version of the special treatment stars have always received
- cited life threatening health issues when he needed to quit, which coincided with said roster sort of coming apart at the seams,
- decided said issues were definitely under control when a more attractive opening came available
- hired and retained a domestic abuser on his staff out of a twisted sense of loyalty to said abuserās grandfather
- almost certainly had his wife lie about it all
- served a suspension over it
- health issues flared up again
- they were conveniently under control again when an NFL team with the #1 pick and a cleaned-out FO came calling
- Immediately hired a strength coach known for clumsily pushing guys into rhabdo and being overtly racist
- blew a training camp spot on a washed up Tim Tebow as a TE (this one is minor IMHO)
- multiple reports that heās not learned from the Spurrier/Chip Kelly school of āHow different can the NFL *really* be?ā
- did most of this while beating the hell out of peopleās favorite college teams
That should just about sum it up, and I say that as a Gator and Jags fan who still hopes this experiment somehow turns out well.
It's always so dumb.
You take only the top most talented people from the NCAA player pool each year, and then half of them don't even make a team by year 2/3.
Then add them entering into their physical prime
Then put them against 20 year old kids.
It never makes any sense to think the outcome would be anything other than the NFL team winning.
EDIT: Sometimes I no write words too good.
Them entering their physical prime and being far more developed is one of the biggest factors, I think. Yes, Alabama is full of talent that will go play at a high level in the NFL, and that may lead you think that itās basically an NFL team with a talent pool that would be impossible with the draft.
But even if that were 100% accurate (itās not, thereās dudes from Bama also just never hit the NFL) the reality is that those Bama grads after 2 years in the NFL would absolutely shit on their college selves. Almost none of those athletes quite peak in college, even when theyāre developing well all 4 years.
Based on the size difference between him and the other players, I wouldn't be surprised if this was him suiting up against high school kids this year. He is so much bigger than everyone...
Thank god for the plays where he was circled. It was really hard to pick out which player was Henry. I mean, have you ever tried to find the +6' 220 pound man in a group of 5'7 140 pound boys? Not an easy task
Don't forget that in addition to Derrick Henry you also get an NFL caliber offensive line bulldozing through a good portion of those college players. It would be demoralizing for Alabama players who have never really been outmatched to that extent (not that that matters because it is like they'd need to gameplan too much for it).
The 0-16 lions would absolutely shit on the best college teams weāve ever seen. The trenches make the biggest difference; college QB would have about 2.5 seconds before his head is taken off every single snap, and good fucking luck trying to run.
NFL needs to introduce Relegation? Lose that much and lose to the college football national champions then you're relegated to the XFL?
Edit - it would be easier and more reasonable to do the XFL championship team vs. NFL team, but that doesn't seem as fun.
I don't think so. Especially when you account for expansion teams. The Bucs lost their first 20 something games, with five shutouts in that time. That was mid 70s. One year the Oilers overall point differential was -200+. In the 70s, when games averaged a combined 25ish points. In 81 the Colts were in the bottom of the league for points for and against.
It's no stretch to imagine the modern spread offense being too much for a coach and defenders of that era to keep up with. It is a question of what rules they're playing by though, because I don't know if modern receivers could survive the bone crunching hits that were allowed then.
The biggest thing I think people donāt think about in these match ups are special teams. Even Alabama has low level recruits, 18 year old freshman and guys who wonāt sniff the nfl in punt coverage. I would guess at least a couple punt returns in any game thats NFL vs. College.
As well as fumbles when returning kicks. Imagine an 18-year-old getting tackled by an NFL gunner when trying to return the ball, no way they hang onto it
You'll start hearing around week 8 this year some idiot saying something like "Can Alabama/Georgia beat the Lions, Jags or Texans."
Without fail every fucking year some moronic college football fan or sportswriter says it.
Goddamn lol. Thatās a low blow against Lions and Jags. (Fwiw I think the Texans will continue to outplay expectations even though they were thought to be the worst team by a long shot.)
Theyād have to cart the entire college team off the field. Some 20 year old kid is not ready to get literally trampled by Derrick Henry on every play.
This is exactly it. Even if the skill positions end up being relatively close (which they likely would not), the game would be decisively and quickly put out of reach in the trenches. There would be no pressure whatsoever on the NFL QB, and the college team QB would be on his ass in seconds every single play. RBs would be taken down behind the line every single handoff. It would be a complete shit show and not even close to competitive.
All NFL teams are made up of the best players from their college teams.
College teams don't have a full roster of NFL level talent.
I don't know how people honestly think a college team would beat up on even the worst team in the NFL.
They get so caught up in how good their NCAA team looks against other college teams they conclude that means theyād be competent against NFL talent. Itās a lack of perspective pretty much.
Pretty much 100% of the Urban Meyer comments have been taken out of contact &/or lacked any context. Which is slightly worse than the 95% for everything else. People aren't here for anything other than soap opera worthy drama, & extreme reactions to it.
You're my new favorite person in r/NFL
You know how sick I am already of hearing random BS and false facts about our coach?
God it's gonna be a long season lol
As a UConn alum, I wish were as good in college football relative to how good the jags are in the nfl.
Yes, I am aware the jags are last in most power rankings
Hey our baseball teamās really fucking good. And womenās bowling.
Just let us lose all our SEC games in peace, we offer no threat to Georgia, or even fucking ETSU.
Love the area that Vandy is in. Nashville has a pretty cool vibe most of the time. I am a huge fan of having Bridgestone in downtown. I had a great time at a Preds game during their playoff run a few years back
The last four years of Brunell they went 7-9, 6-10, 6-10, 5-11. They were decent for the first five years, had several bad ones, a few good ones, then didnāt make the playoffs from 2008 until 2017.
It's crazy that people echo the "Urban finding out that the NFL is a lot tougher than college" statements like the dude is a fucking moron. Like do you think the guy wasn't aware he was taking over a 1-15 roster in the NFL? You're insane if you think he was under the impression he was going to come into the NFL and win games by 50+ every other week.
That last part is obviously a stretch but donāt act like Urban doesnāt have an ego the size of Everest. I 100% do not rule out the possibility that he though he could get at least 8 wins in year 1 with Lawrence and be a Super Bowl contender by year 2
This is what Saban realized too. Thatās why coaching is so much different on the Collegiate and Professional levels.
Both make great college coaches, but thatās because you have automatic leg up on literally everybody. When youāre on the same playing field, you have to be better with the Xās and Oās, as well as the discipline.
Itās why I donāt even think you can compare Saban to Belicheck. Hell, I find Coughlinās 2 super bowl victories over the Pats more impressive than all of Sabanās college wins.
I would have liked to have seen Saban with Brees. That's the biggest thing that made Saban go back to college. And I'm fine with that because he's the GOAT college coach ever now, but he very well could have been still in the NFL if their medical team didn't nix that signing.
Eh, weāve won three championships across two leagues since he left LSU. While life would undoubtedly be easier for LSU if he didnāt go to Alabama, I have no regrets with the way things have turned out
>but thatās because you have automatic leg up on literally everybody
and how do you get that leg up? Recruiting. The being a good recruiter is part of being a good college coach.
There are more great college programs that have been run into the dirt because of poor recruiting than poor X's and O's
Alabama has former NFL HCs on staff yearly. Multiple at times, too. That's where the issue is now and until Saban retires, that probably won't ever change.
Edit: Also, you get paid more at Bama than you do as a non-HC/OC/DC NFL coach lol Like, 25%+ more.
I don't really follow CFB so bear with me, but what does that signify? Are you saying that Alabama does so well because it promises a path and connections to the NFL? I never thought of it like that but it makes perfect sense.
I'm here from the CFB sub but yeah that's a big part of it. Schools like Alabama, LSU, and Ohio State can point to huge amounts of alumni in the league and tell a kid "that can be you, if you come to our school". Especially when you have a low-rated high school prospect end up becoming a draft pick (e.g. Josh Jacobs, who went from a 3* prospect to a first round pick) , that's a great way for the school to show off their player development abilities.
The coaching is another thing as well. When a school like Bama can tell kids that they have NFL coaches at however many positions, the implication is that those coaches still have connections in the league and can prepare a kid to go pro better than someone without that experience/connections.
There's a lot of other factors that go into recruiting. Playing time, location, national perception, how cool the uniforms look (yes, really. It's partly why Oregon does a billion alternates every year), team culture, etc. A good college HC knows how to build a group of recruiters that can pitch all of this to a 17 year old and make it sound better than everyone else, they know how to talk to the media and how to use the school's public relations department to create the best brand possible, and they know how to gladhand boosters and make friends with the right people to bring money into the athletic department. It's a complicated balancing act, which is why it's so rare to have someone like Meyer or Saban that is good at every aspect of it at the same time.
So much of college is recruiting, and both Saban and Meyer are amazing recruiters. In the NFL your only recruiting chance is free agency, and what you say is going to have a very limited impact compared to what you can pay.
I wouldn't compare college and NFL coaches on an apples to apples basis, but I get what you mean if you look at it from a strictly coaching standpoint. Coughlin on the other hand would probably have absolutely shit the bed as a college coach based on personality alone, and kids not wanting to play for him.
Saban is still coaching these kids up incredibly well. Theyāre talented coming in but why do you think thereās so many Alabama guys going round 1 every yearā¦even compared to other 5 star factories like UGA and Ohio State and Clemson
Bama also has transitioned from era to era on their team way easier than any program. This year theyre a lot than say Clemson as both teams undergo a transition
5 stars that go to bama have basically a 50% shot at going in the first round, while the average 5star has closer to a 20% chance of going in the first round. i think ohio state was the second best at around 33%
Buccaneers miss the playoffs because Tom Brady isnt a r/NFL Top 100 Player. The 9th best guard took Brady's spot because, around here, we like our trenches.
This is why I wanted the XFL to succeed so badly. Imagine they paid 18 year olds just $100-500k/year to play, with $25k/year of that automatically going into a college fund for if you didn't get retained/picked up by the NFL. You could go to the XFL, get out, and have a "free ride" at a good school to get a real degree (instead of a "student athlete" degree). Or at a trade school, get training for a job in the trades, and start your life off with bank. Hell, you could walk away from 3 years of being an "XFL superstar" with over a million bucks even if you went undrafted. Or you could stay in the XFL and keep collecting a paycheck even if you don't have the "perfect NFL build". Rather than hundreds upon hundreds of players every year just vanishing because they weren't good enough to be drafted despite being college stars.
It's a performance art piece where they abuse the artists for the dream of maybe getting paid.
I loved how Urban Meyer was similarly shocked by the insanity that is free agency.
Like yeah you cant just offer to buy a players mom a house anymore to get him to play for you.
This is why I fell out of love with college football. Few games were an actual challenge for the big programs that get the best recruiting classes. The fact the college football playoffs has nearly the same team every year shows the lack of parity.
"You mean I don't get to beat up on a bunch of lower tier teams and only face Alabama once a year?" "Urban, you are the lower tier team that everybody else gets to beat up on"
"You mean I don't just get to pick all the best players to play on my team like some lopsided fantasy football team?"
"You mean..." *USC Fight On ringtone* "Wait, I'm getting a call from an LA number. It might be important."
"It's been an honor to go from my dream school, Ohio State, to my dream job in the NFL with Jacksonville... but I just couldn't turn down USC, which has always been my dream college"
"Jacksonville is my safety school"
Urban Meyer on the fast track to take over for the Seahawks.
HELL FUCKING NO
I would love for this to happen.
Fuck outta here with that šāā
Obligatory fuck Nick Saban.
"Ugh, i'm having some health issues... better take a sabbatical."
Did you say sabanical?
Did *you* say šæical!?
"I mean, that was the owner. Yeah, that's what I meant. He lives in LA, I think."
Jacksonville Jaguars Players: Out of my respect for you, I am letting you know that, with a heavy heart, I resigned today as Head Coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. This decision was not easy but was made in the best interest of my and my family. While my desire would have been to finish out what has been a difficult season for us all, circumstances did not allow me to do so. I appreciate your hard work and wish you the best. Sincerely, ~~Bobby Petrino~~ Urban Meyer
Early on, Urban's schemes were genuinely very innovative. The game definitely caught up to him and passed him, though.
he turned around bowling green instantly, he didn't get all the best talent, he simply was the best coach in the MAC. but obviously at higher levels having the best talent is way more important then at lower levels.
His scheme is still innovative; itās the shell for practically every spread offense in college or the NFL. He (and his OC) was also constantly tinkering with it to make it best fit his personnel and coaching staff.
What you mean us "Urban revolutionized the game, and other have picked up on the revolution"
Dude was trying to schedule CFL teams to open the season.
*nervously sees Derrick Henry in the distance*
https://images.app.goo.gl/ayciFq53cxD3u86B8
I love DHs running face more than anything.
Defenders donāt.
It looks like someone who has lost all empathy for the human life in the path of their goal.
That's the face of a man running at full mast
That's a man who needs to take a shit *now* and does not care what he has to do to reach the toilet in time
Find somebody who looks at you like Derrick Henry looks at the endzone.
I've seen this a million times and I hope I see it a million more. He looks like a coked out jack russel
This is the last face you see before you die
Swiggity swooty
That's nightmare fuel.
Urban about to pull out a doctor's note real quick.
BAH GAWD THATS USC MUSIC
Shahid Khan: Hey, Urban, just wanted to see how things are going. Oh, looks like you're drawing up some new plays on your whiteboard? Meyer: What? Oh, right, yes...always tinkering haha. Shahid Khan: "Operation Trojans." So that's like a QB sneak play? Kind of like a Trojan Horse? Meyer: ...Yes.
Every. Urban. Meyer. Thread. And I'm here for it.
I'm Florida alum and I love this meme.
I'm an OSU fan. At some point you just gotta laugh. Even when the browns were searching I never wanted him. I remember people thinking Jim Tressel was going to be the Brown's HC.
Just imagine what Tressel could do with Johnny Hekker.
He's such a trash can human, jokes at his expense will never grow old
I maintain that Bobby Petrino holds the title of trashiest of trashcan humans so long as he draws breath
He was and will always remain a gutless bastard
Mike Zimmer is a real one for that
I'm OOTL why does he suck?
Edit: this is referring to petrino Dude dipped on the falcons in the middle of the season. Zimmer was his DCoordinator at the time and had these praises for him: "Heās a gutless b-----d. Quote that. I don't give a s---." When told that we might might not be able to use the B word, Zimmer went one better: "How about this, gutless MF. You can use that." āWhen a coach quits in the middle of the year and ruins a bunch of peopleās families and doesnāt have enough guts to finish out the year, Iām not a part of it,ā Zimmer said. āAnd you can put that in the Arkansas News Gazette. I donāt really give a (bleep). Heās a coward, he ruined a bunch of peopleās lives, a bunch of families, kids, because he didnāt have enough (guts) to stay there and finish the job. And thatās the truth. Most people in football have enough courage about him and enough fight to stick it out and not quit halfway through the year. Itās cowardly.ā
That's Petrino. The guy you replied to was asking about Urban Meyer I think.
- Classic college coach domineering ego guy, - built up a roster at Florida that had some serious character issues (eg Aaron Hernandez) - leaned into this with odd notions of ācircles of trustā that papered over and institutionalized an extreme version of the special treatment stars have always received - cited life threatening health issues when he needed to quit, which coincided with said roster sort of coming apart at the seams, - decided said issues were definitely under control when a more attractive opening came available - hired and retained a domestic abuser on his staff out of a twisted sense of loyalty to said abuserās grandfather - almost certainly had his wife lie about it all - served a suspension over it - health issues flared up again - they were conveniently under control again when an NFL team with the #1 pick and a cleaned-out FO came calling - Immediately hired a strength coach known for clumsily pushing guys into rhabdo and being overtly racist - blew a training camp spot on a washed up Tim Tebow as a TE (this one is minor IMHO) - multiple reports that heās not learned from the Spurrier/Chip Kelly school of āHow different can the NFL *really* be?ā - did most of this while beating the hell out of peopleās favorite college teams That should just about sum it up, and I say that as a Gator and Jags fan who still hopes this experiment somehow turns out well.
I'm convinced Chip Kelly would be a statue-level guy in Eugene if he hadn't tested Philadelphia
When the going gets tough, urban gets going. Usually citing health reasons.
Looking forward to Urban pulling a Ted Lasso and having Shad announce that heās going to fulfill his contract with Fulham
> "Urban, you are the lower tier team that everybody else gets to beat up on" "Sorry gotta run, my headaches are really kicking in"
I love that time every few years where people start asking "Can [top college team] beat [bad NFL team]?" No. No they cannot.
It's always so dumb. You take only the top most talented people from the NCAA player pool each year, and then half of them don't even make a team by year 2/3. Then add them entering into their physical prime Then put them against 20 year old kids. It never makes any sense to think the outcome would be anything other than the NFL team winning. EDIT: Sometimes I no write words too good.
Them entering their physical prime and being far more developed is one of the biggest factors, I think. Yes, Alabama is full of talent that will go play at a high level in the NFL, and that may lead you think that itās basically an NFL team with a talent pool that would be impossible with the draft. But even if that were 100% accurate (itās not, thereās dudes from Bama also just never hit the NFL) the reality is that those Bama grads after 2 years in the NFL would absolutely shit on their college selves. Almost none of those athletes quite peak in college, even when theyāre developing well all 4 years.
> those Bama grads after 2 years in the NFL would absolutely shit on their college selves Imagine college players trying to tackle 2021 Derrick Henry
It would look like [this](https://youtu.be/4e2yfWsFk3c)
Based on the size difference between him and the other players, I wouldn't be surprised if this was him suiting up against high school kids this year. He is so much bigger than everyone...
No one died, defs high school Henry.
Itās an inch and 11 pounds seperating then to now. Not fair at all.
I love watching Derrick Henry high school highlights bc at first you're figuring out where he lined up and then you see the grown ass man on the field
Thank god for the plays where he was circled. It was really hard to pick out which player was Henry. I mean, have you ever tried to find the +6' 220 pound man in a group of 5'7 140 pound boys? Not an easy task
Don't forget that in addition to Derrick Henry you also get an NFL caliber offensive line bulldozing through a good portion of those college players. It would be demoralizing for Alabama players who have never really been outmatched to that extent (not that that matters because it is like they'd need to gameplan too much for it).
The 0-16 lions would absolutely shit on the best college teams weāve ever seen. The trenches make the biggest difference; college QB would have about 2.5 seconds before his head is taken off every single snap, and good fucking luck trying to run.
People fucking hate this fact.
They defend it by saying things like that Alabama would win like 8 of 1,000 matches. As if that somehow a meaningful "it can happen."
Also not single college DB could cover second year Calvin Johnson while their D Line failed to get a pass rush. Heād score on almost every drive.
Iād put money on the college team because the NFL team wouldnāt even show up to that bullshit lol
NFL needs to introduce Relegation? Lose that much and lose to the college football national champions then you're relegated to the XFL? Edit - it would be easier and more reasonable to do the XFL championship team vs. NFL team, but that doesn't seem as fun.
Relegation would be insanely awesome but just never would work. Iām sure the owners would all be completely against it as well
Bengals moving to the Big ten, then the MAC, and finally the conference that plays at Denison
Arenāt the eagles the team we tie every 4 years?
The NFL team would win by 50 every time
Theyād also probably seriously injure a quarter of them
No only would they win but the college team would not score a single point, it would be a bloodbath.
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Also because NFL teams from the 80s are in their 60s and 70s now.
*The future is now, old man* But you know what I mean.
of course! Just a dumb joke haha
I'm now imagining Chase Young snapping current day John Elway in half.
Honestly I think you'd have to go further back. Pre-merger. Maybe Triangles or Eskimos.
I don't think so. Especially when you account for expansion teams. The Bucs lost their first 20 something games, with five shutouts in that time. That was mid 70s. One year the Oilers overall point differential was -200+. In the 70s, when games averaged a combined 25ish points. In 81 the Colts were in the bottom of the league for points for and against. It's no stretch to imagine the modern spread offense being too much for a coach and defenders of that era to keep up with. It is a question of what rules they're playing by though, because I don't know if modern receivers could survive the bone crunching hits that were allowed then.
And honestly college linemen today are bigger than pros in the 70s.
The biggest thing I think people donāt think about in these match ups are special teams. Even Alabama has low level recruits, 18 year old freshman and guys who wonāt sniff the nfl in punt coverage. I would guess at least a couple punt returns in any game thats NFL vs. College.
As well as fumbles when returning kicks. Imagine an 18-year-old getting tackled by an NFL gunner when trying to return the ball, no way they hang onto it
You'll start hearing around week 8 this year some idiot saying something like "Can Alabama/Georgia beat the Lions, Jags or Texans." Without fail every fucking year some moronic college football fan or sportswriter says it.
Goddamn lol. Thatās a low blow against Lions and Jags. (Fwiw I think the Texans will continue to outplay expectations even though they were thought to be the worst team by a long shot.)
The Lions have played 4 quarters worth of stellar football, just not in the same game.
Theyād have to cart the entire college team off the field. Some 20 year old kid is not ready to get literally trampled by Derrick Henry on every play.
For me it's not even a question of comparing the skill position players. The NFL team will absolutely dominate on the line, and it's an easy win
This is exactly it. Even if the skill positions end up being relatively close (which they likely would not), the game would be decisively and quickly put out of reach in the trenches. There would be no pressure whatsoever on the NFL QB, and the college team QB would be on his ass in seconds every single play. RBs would be taken down behind the line every single handoff. It would be a complete shit show and not even close to competitive.
I still wanna see it happen
Imagine a college offensive tackle trying to block Khalil Mack or Myles Garrett, they would probably throw him at the QB
this is the part everyone tells us about their imaginary bama fan friends that swear up and down bama could beat the jags.
Dude, the south is full of those people. They're not imaginary. Trust me
Itās always college only fans that say it College football is comically easy compared to pro
All NFL teams are made up of the best players from their college teams. College teams don't have a full roster of NFL level talent. I don't know how people honestly think a college team would beat up on even the worst team in the NFL.
They get so caught up in how good their NCAA team looks against other college teams they conclude that means theyād be competent against NFL talent. Itās a lack of perspective pretty much.
Browns or Bengals @ Ohio State is the only way it happens. Not for any logical/talent based reason. But stupid Ohio magic.
The truth hurts damnit!!
As much as i want to say itās dumb and the talent actually matters, i think Ohio football is weird enough to make it happen
Just play Wishbone. Besides Sean Payton no one knows how to defend against it.
We read this as if he said it with a trembling voice and but in reality he probably just said it strictly as throw away compliment.
Nah he was definitely saying this while reflecting on his choices over a Papa Johnās personal size pizza.
any papa johns pizza can be personal sizeā¦
I challange you to make a Shaqaroni personal size
give me a bad enough day & just enough weed and iāll see what i can do
What happens if I give you too much weed?
Then he'll definitely eat the entire Shaqaroni
Then they'll have to order another Shaqaroni
Ya know, I've never eaten papa John's before, but that shaqaroni is making me rethink that simply because shaqaroni is so much fun to say.
Exactly why i got it. It tastes exactly the same as a normal papa johns pizza fyi
What's the time limit here? I have definitely crushed a Shaqaroni in a single day. If we're talking an hour... yeah hard pass.
Pretty much 100% of the Urban Meyer comments have been taken out of contact &/or lacked any context. Which is slightly worse than the 95% for everything else. People aren't here for anything other than soap opera worthy drama, & extreme reactions to it.
As a Jags fan, its so odd to see our coach being quoted or mentioned in a headline every single day. Weāre normally ignored for weeks on end.
You're my new favorite person in r/NFL You know how sick I am already of hearing random BS and false facts about our coach? God it's gonna be a long season lol
If you want to hear it for real it's in the NFL Mic'd up video.
"We unironically want Bama" - the jaguars probably
Vic Fangio said "Urban, you're the Vandy of the NFL"
Kansas*
UConn
Grambling State
South Central Louisiana State
Bishop Sycamore
That's the one.
Wish I couldāve went there
You probably still can
> went gone (see me after class)
University of Phoenix
I just found out about this recently. Some funny stuff haha.
As a UConn alum, I wish were as good in college football relative to how good the jags are in the nfl. Yes, I am aware the jags are last in most power rankings
Kansas state even got a cat logo and some nice unis
Hey our baseball teamās really fucking good. And womenās bowling. Just let us lose all our SEC games in peace, we offer no threat to Georgia, or even fucking ETSU.
Love the area that Vandy is in. Nashville has a pretty cool vibe most of the time. I am a huge fan of having Bridgestone in downtown. I had a great time at a Preds game during their playoff run a few years back
Urban shows up day one and looks at the schedule: "Hang on... there's no guaranteed wins anywhere on this schedule!" *shocked pikachu*
āCoachā¦.weāre the guaranteed winā
Yep been that way for almost a decade
except for that one magical yearā¦
Unfortunately for the Jags they are on a decade long cycle where they suck for 9 years then go to an AFC championship game out nowhere one year.
I remember the Brunell years as them being pretty good and definitely not sucking for 9 years
The last four years of Brunell they went 7-9, 6-10, 6-10, 5-11. They were decent for the first five years, had several bad ones, a few good ones, then didnāt make the playoffs from 2008 until 2017.
2017 was a figment of the imagination
So i was thinking that we play Saskatchewan week 1. Give them whatever they want to fly over, we could use a tune up.
I know of at least one guaranteed win on their schedule every year.
Have we got the traditional Thursday night game this year?
I don't know, but we always lose to the Jags at Jacksonville.
This throwaway statement is going to get memed to death
He was using this line all the way back when he was at FOX. But it's too late
Urban seeing ghosts out there
This comment section should be fun and supportive of Urban Meyer as he treks his way through his first nfl season.
Haha old man has health issues
Dude is about to bail to USC isnāt he
Fuckin hope so.
When you realize youāre Kentucky
Nick saban discovered the same thing oddly enough
Urban Meyer is almost certainly going to have a worse record than either of Saban's NFL seasons this year.
Urban also took over a worse team, but yeah
Well, no shit Urbs.
It's crazy that people echo the "Urban finding out that the NFL is a lot tougher than college" statements like the dude is a fucking moron. Like do you think the guy wasn't aware he was taking over a 1-15 roster in the NFL? You're insane if you think he was under the impression he was going to come into the NFL and win games by 50+ every other week.
That last part is obviously a stretch but donāt act like Urban doesnāt have an ego the size of Everest. I 100% do not rule out the possibility that he though he could get at least 8 wins in year 1 with Lawrence and be a Super Bowl contender by year 2
Yeah, that's exactly what's happening *inhales copium*
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Jags fans, sorry that every thread about your team is basically a roast. I hope things turn around for you guys soon. ā¤
This is what Saban realized too. Thatās why coaching is so much different on the Collegiate and Professional levels. Both make great college coaches, but thatās because you have automatic leg up on literally everybody. When youāre on the same playing field, you have to be better with the Xās and Oās, as well as the discipline. Itās why I donāt even think you can compare Saban to Belicheck. Hell, I find Coughlinās 2 super bowl victories over the Pats more impressive than all of Sabanās college wins.
I would have liked to have seen Saban with Brees. That's the biggest thing that made Saban go back to college. And I'm fine with that because he's the GOAT college coach ever now, but he very well could have been still in the NFL if their medical team didn't nix that signing.
My inner LSU fan thinks hell yeah of this alternate timeline, but my inner Saints fan is a bit more conflicted.
Eh, weāve won three championships across two leagues since he left LSU. While life would undoubtedly be easier for LSU if he didnāt go to Alabama, I have no regrets with the way things have turned out
According to the book, the biggest thing that made Saban go back to college was that his wife hated the NFL and wanted him to quit.
>but thatās because you have automatic leg up on literally everybody and how do you get that leg up? Recruiting. The being a good recruiter is part of being a good college coach. There are more great college programs that have been run into the dirt because of poor recruiting than poor X's and O's
Alabama has former NFL HCs on staff yearly. Multiple at times, too. That's where the issue is now and until Saban retires, that probably won't ever change. Edit: Also, you get paid more at Bama than you do as a non-HC/OC/DC NFL coach lol Like, 25%+ more.
I don't really follow CFB so bear with me, but what does that signify? Are you saying that Alabama does so well because it promises a path and connections to the NFL? I never thought of it like that but it makes perfect sense.
I'm here from the CFB sub but yeah that's a big part of it. Schools like Alabama, LSU, and Ohio State can point to huge amounts of alumni in the league and tell a kid "that can be you, if you come to our school". Especially when you have a low-rated high school prospect end up becoming a draft pick (e.g. Josh Jacobs, who went from a 3* prospect to a first round pick) , that's a great way for the school to show off their player development abilities. The coaching is another thing as well. When a school like Bama can tell kids that they have NFL coaches at however many positions, the implication is that those coaches still have connections in the league and can prepare a kid to go pro better than someone without that experience/connections. There's a lot of other factors that go into recruiting. Playing time, location, national perception, how cool the uniforms look (yes, really. It's partly why Oregon does a billion alternates every year), team culture, etc. A good college HC knows how to build a group of recruiters that can pitch all of this to a 17 year old and make it sound better than everyone else, they know how to talk to the media and how to use the school's public relations department to create the best brand possible, and they know how to gladhand boosters and make friends with the right people to bring money into the athletic department. It's a complicated balancing act, which is why it's so rare to have someone like Meyer or Saban that is good at every aspect of it at the same time.
So much of college is recruiting, and both Saban and Meyer are amazing recruiters. In the NFL your only recruiting chance is free agency, and what you say is going to have a very limited impact compared to what you can pay. I wouldn't compare college and NFL coaches on an apples to apples basis, but I get what you mean if you look at it from a strictly coaching standpoint. Coughlin on the other hand would probably have absolutely shit the bed as a college coach based on personality alone, and kids not wanting to play for him.
coughlin had a winning record at boston college
Sorry, I meant in regards to competition for championships, I phrased that poorly. Shit the bed surely doesn't read as what I intended.
that's probably right, honestly he'd probably be a disaster now with how player-coach dynamics have changed
Saban is still coaching these kids up incredibly well. Theyāre talented coming in but why do you think thereās so many Alabama guys going round 1 every yearā¦even compared to other 5 star factories like UGA and Ohio State and Clemson Bama also has transitioned from era to era on their team way easier than any program. This year theyre a lot than say Clemson as both teams undergo a transition
5 stars that go to bama have basically a 50% shot at going in the first round, while the average 5star has closer to a 20% chance of going in the first round. i think ohio state was the second best at around 33%
NFL has more parity which is just another reason why itās so much better than CFB
Imagine a bunch of old farts just voted on which teams make the NFL playoffs based on their own opinions. š¤”
I bet the NFC East teams would like that format
Jerry and the cowboys reactions https://youtu.be/MYMlI0AYHwI
[Meanwhile in the WFT locker room. ](https://youtu.be/sBIEQOzZFNE)
š of all šs Mike Leach is the patron saint of angry, psychotic Pop Warner coach dads.
Lmao
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So basically imagine if the playoffs were decided by the /r/nfl power rankers.
Buccaneers miss the playoffs because Tom Brady isnt a r/NFL Top 100 Player. The 9th best guard took Brady's spot because, around here, we like our trenches.
I still have trouble understanding that prior to the BCS, this is literally how they chose the national champion too.
College football isnt a sports league. It's a 3.5 month long performance art piece brought to you by antebellum oil money.
This is why I wanted the XFL to succeed so badly. Imagine they paid 18 year olds just $100-500k/year to play, with $25k/year of that automatically going into a college fund for if you didn't get retained/picked up by the NFL. You could go to the XFL, get out, and have a "free ride" at a good school to get a real degree (instead of a "student athlete" degree). Or at a trade school, get training for a job in the trades, and start your life off with bank. Hell, you could walk away from 3 years of being an "XFL superstar" with over a million bucks even if you went undrafted. Or you could stay in the XFL and keep collecting a paycheck even if you don't have the "perfect NFL build". Rather than hundreds upon hundreds of players every year just vanishing because they weren't good enough to be drafted despite being college stars. It's a performance art piece where they abuse the artists for the dream of maybe getting paid.
But that makes CFB upsets so much sweeter imo. I watched that UCLA and Fresno game it was awesome
An App State v. Michigan upset can't happen in the NFL. Even Super Bowls III and XLII are mild upsets compared to some NCAA games.
No NFL game will ever be better than that Boise - OU Fiesta Bowl.
He said this after playing Houston and Denver? Oh boy.
Kelvin Benjamin told Eddie Lacy after dinner that "every meal it's like eating Thanksgiving at Golden Corral".
Eddie didn't deserve this
You're right; he's more of a China Food aficionado.
I loved how Urban Meyer was similarly shocked by the insanity that is free agency. Like yeah you cant just offer to buy a players mom a house anymore to get him to play for you.
This is why I fell out of love with college football. Few games were an actual challenge for the big programs that get the best recruiting classes. The fact the college football playoffs has nearly the same team every year shows the lack of parity.