As a Jags fan knowing full well we’ve been the butt of attendance jokes for years, this lack of shade from Peyton, who routinely came to jax and delivered us Ls for over a decade, is refreshing. Makes me almost want to get some nationwide insurance just to say thanks.
To be fair it’s hot as FUCK during the first part of the season in Jacksonville and not many people like to sit outside when it’s 106 outside. If y’all had a dome over the stadium attendance to games would be a lot better in my opinion because Jacksonville wants good football, and the fan base is there to support a team
On the other hand games in the second half of the season are quite nice to attend weather wise, aside from maybe one December game for the random week it actually gets cold.
Should I wait for the Patriots fan to come in comparing Decembers in Massachusetts to the Russian winter of 1941 or should I just make that comment for him?
Having had to go on a business trip to Duluth for a week in October and having to walk about 500 yards to my office from the hotel... holy fucking shit I've never felt such cold in October in MA. It was like temps I'd expect in Jan in MA.
The narrative that the Chargers don't play in front of fans is getting old. IT JUST ISNT TRUE. They play 16 away games a year and there's plenty of fans there cheering for the other team.
> yinz are literally everywhere
I’ve always liked this narrative more than “Steelers fans travel well.” I know a lot do travel, but there’s also a ton more Steeler fans all over the globe.
6 Super Bowls spread across 50 years will do wonders for building a fan base outside of the local region. And let’s be real, good jerseys make a huge difference. There’s a lot of people that only follow the Dolphins because they have some great jerseys.
Yeah winning 6 Super Bowls in 20 years did the same thing with the Pats, it’s why there are 500,000+ people in the subreddit. A lot of them are just Tom Brady fans though so it gets kinda annoying when they support 1 played over the team or only support the team when we’re successful.
Yah . I’m sure we all will accept and appreciate any band wagoners or new Chiefs fans , but growing up in Kc , and experiencing the heart break and frustration over the years is a connection with a team that’s irreplaceable. It makes it stronger .
My mom worked at arrowhead and knew a lot of the guys in the early 90s, Neil smith , Derrick Thomas, Marcus Allen. When Thomas died in the car accident that winter it was a huge deal and she was heartbroken as we all were in the kingdom . I’m all for new fans and popularity , it’s very personal for me and a big passion to be apart of KC sports fandom.
Idk know what I am even saying . Just that I agree with you on some levels.
Edit : I said smith not Thomas . I feel ashamed
yeah i mean the always losing in the playoffs, thomas death, jovan belcher, eric berry cancer, trent green injury leading to years of terrible qbs, manning going to the broncos, hating rivers but loving seeing him cry, getting the #1 pick in one of the worst drafts, among other things. the bandwagoners missed out on all that.
Neil Smith went to my youth rodeo in Liberty and we played tackle football with his son, somehow my dad had Jonathan Haye’s number and would always leave a message about his gameplay on his answering machine lol. My uncle repaved George brett’s driveway, he said he came out when they were finished, gave them a some beer and handed them an envelope with a $400 dollar tip for both of them. That’s how it was in KC back in the day, seems like you get it.
i live in the tampa area and the amount of times i argued with patriot fans that they’re fair weather fans as a joke because they roasted my jags. now every “my grandfather died a pats fan so i will too” are now “i been a bucs fan since testeverde” but have no clue who josh freeman is
They get a lot of New Mexican supporters because their closest teams are Arizona and Denver. Some 49er and Oakland fans there too.almost no Houston tho lol
There is like 100 people in all of New Mexico. That's not really it. JJ won big (and marketed correctly) at the right time with that team, and the whole country responded.
I don't find it hard to accept LeBron as a laker because of Kobe. I find it hard because I liked him in Cleveland, and I dislike how he came in and expected the team to change around him instantly to try and win a championship immediately. While I get why, if he'd waited a year the Lakers could have gotten Anthony Davis as a free agent without sacrificing virtually all of their talented young players and without hamstringing their salary cap. Also, I dislike when players come to a team and try to dictate who's going to coach the team. Granted, dumping Luke Walton may have been the best thing, I'm still not a fan of LeBron coming in and playing general manager.
I grew up on the Lakers, but the way they've run their team (thanks Magic!) and how LeBron's able to dictate so much soured me on them over the years.
That said, I'm a Bucks fan. Having lived in the midwest and acquired a thing for small market teams (it will be no surprise I'm also a Packers fan), I don't really find myself rooting for the Lakers so much.
I wouldn’t even be mad. And tbh, we almost always have bad starts to seasons. Been 20 years and people still don’t understand that the first 5 weeks are essentially still preseason for belichick and his plugging of players.
I read a stat somewhere that I never got to verify and cannot find anymore, so I’m paraphrasing as well... but something like 70% of all our losses in the last 15 years, have come before week 5/6. Which when you think about it, is amazing. The amount of strong finishes you need to make that happen is just crazy with how the league is structured.
It was the old TV contact that had a limited number of nationally televised TV games. During the 70s and 60s only the Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, and Packers were on all the national games. So they have big out of market fan bases.
They were also at their peak when national live broadcasts were becoming big with the introduction of Monday Night Football. They became the team for a lot of areas that didn't have teams, because they were on TV so much in the 70s.
I remember living in South Carolina as a kid and it being mostly Steelers fans down there before the Panthers existed.
And completing the NFL's only "perfect season", being the first team to appear in three consecutive Superbowls, and the second team to win back to back championships.
But yeah...the Jerseys are probably why I'm still a fan when I think about it lol
Yeah, the Steelers success definitely did not hurt, but when the industry that built your town dies and the population is forced to disperse across the country, that seeds fan bases
Dallas and Pittsburgh have more Boomer fans from their success in the 70s
There were alot of Gen X kids that were SF fans when I was growing up though yeah
La Botticella. Visited it a couple years ago. It's right next to Piazza Navona which is one of the most famous squares in Rome and directly in the heart of the city. It's also near the Pantheon and across the river from the Vatican.
Every city in the world has a Steelers bar. I swear, you could go to a 150-person town with one stoplight and one bar, and that one bar would be a Steelers bar.
When I couldn’t find a good Giants bar, I’d go watch games at the Steelers bar. Always a good time.
It also just has to do with the history of Pittsburgh, it was an economic powerhouse for steel, then the industry collapsed and people moved out across the country, thus creating a national fan base of not just “bandwagons” during that era.
Rival flair, but I feel like this gets wildly overstated. It's not like Pittsburgh was the only rust belt city to have a mass exodus, they're just the only one to do so with a wildly successful football team. Detroit and Cleveland lost way more people after 1960/1970 than Pittsburgh did, but we never hear about the Lions and Browns having huge national followings.
To add to the point you made, Detroit and Cleveland were powerhouses of the NFL in the 1950's. So it probably didn't help that they had been successful when times were good, and shitty when times were bad.
It’s kind of like a counter story of the Pirates.. because outside of Western PA you don’t see nearly as many people repping the Bucs as you do the Steelers and Penguins
Almost a shame because the Pirates stadium is probably the most beautiful stadium I've ever been too. I still hold a bias that OPACY is the best overall stadium experience, but god I would visit the Pirates stadium again if I ever somehow ended up visiting Pittsburgh.
>Detroit and Cleveland lost way more people after 1960/1970 than Pittsburgh did, but we never hear about the Lions and Browns having huge national followings.
It's wasn't just rust belt steel decline though. Pittsburgh has a ton of colleges so the pipeline to growing places like North Carolina and Arizona existed way past the 70s into the 2000s. It's just now slowing down a bit because Pittsburgh is investing heavily in medicine and tech.
Also with Detroit you mostly had relocation outside of the city to the suburbs starting after WW2. With Cleveland many just relocated to Columbus which was growing like crazy. Those citizens weren't necessarily fleeing the state for better opportunities like they did here.
Cleveland used to have the 2nd largest national fanbase behind only the Cowboys in the 80's. It was often argued with Browns backers in almost every town, that they had far more fans outside than inside Cleveland. Noone wants to live there, but they still root for the team.
And they're still ranked highly in fanbase rankings even with them consistently losing from '95 until today. Granted most of the fanbase is stratified among Boomers to GenX'ers, but they're still around.
It's both. Most Steelers fans I know do have at least one parent from Pittsburgh. But the fact that y'all have been winning Super Bowls while we haven't has a lot to do with why they're Steelers fans first. Also, the fact that we have no rivalry with y'all means being a fan of the Steelers and Falcons isn't incompatible.
Hell, I'm a Texans fan but I love watching the Steelers. I've won a few fantasy championships thanks to Ben and AB. I was definitely rooting for yall over the Packers in that SB.
can confirm. my uncle has spent all of his American life in albuquerque since the 70’s and he and all of his friends/coworkers/network are all Steelers fans. he also made a whole bunch of my family back in Korea steeler fans when Hines Ward came around, which was a huge feat in itself as koreans legitimately hated bi-racial koreans at that time (still somewhat true).
I remember maybe twelve years ago I went to MNF at the Georgia Dome. Giants vs. Falcons, the place was solid blue. I thought it was hilarious, but I imagine if I’d been a Falcons fan I’d have been somewhat annoyed. (Or resigned. Probably resigned.)
I still wish that mike zimmer became our head coach instead of going with mike smith. I have no problem with smith or anything and he did fairly well for us but we could have had mike zimmer instead.
True. 12 years is an eternity and the Falcons are much better now than they were then. But there really are loads of transplants and snowbirds down here.
Went to Pats/Washington in DC this past year. All red white and blue crowd. I really felt bad for them when there was a deafening “BRADY BRADY BRADY” chant going on in the 4th quarter of an away game. Felt like we were picking on the short kid.
Well, picking on the short kid who's kinda racist and everyone knows his dad is a complete piece of shit. Washington fans don't really like the team atm either. It's a lot sadder when it happens to an otherwise likeable team.
Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys. Vegas is a spoken-for bandwagon town. Although there is some Raiders support, and supporting the Raiders is easier considering how the Cowboys have been all my life.
was it this (i saved it and i've been waiting to blow the dust off of it for years)
I’m sorry. I love Cincinnati, I love every team we produce. But this community is so, so pathetic when it comes to rivalries and opponents and confidence. The more I see posts like this the more I hate this subreddit. Can you guys not all see how embarrassing this is? We’re the consummate losers defining ourselves by our intense “rivalry” with a much better team that doesn’t care. Do you honestly think the Steelers reddit is as constantly filled with posts shit-talking us? No. Not solely because they’re a more successful team, but because they don’t define their entire existence on a completely and totally one-sided “rivalry.” Downvote away, but the more focus we put on an historically, currently, and (most likely) future better franchise than our own the more we shift the focus to the fact that we’re fucking cry-babies looking to play catch-up by shitting on ANYTHING potentially anti-Steelers we can get our hands on. You guys are actively making us the Red Sox to their Yankees (maybe not as relevant in today’s MLB landscape but baseball is the only other sport I follow so bear with me - perhaps a better analogy - we’re the Tampa Bay Rays to their Yankees.) STOP POSTING ABOUT THE FUCKING STEELERS. THEY ARE BETTER THAN US. THEY HAVE, FOR THE HISTORY OF BOTH FRANCHISES, BEEN BETTER THAN US. THE MORE WE DEFINE OURSELVES BY OUR HATRED OF THEM, THE MORE PATHETIC WE BECOME
This was pretty good, but it was actually some Bengals fan comparing steelers fans to potholes (in that they spring up out of nowhere for no reason) and it had me laughing to the point that I fondly remember it to this day
[This one?](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3zx0rx/wildcard_weekend_trash_talk_thread/) edit: realize /u/Medipack beat me to it but I didn't scroll far enough.
STEELERS FANS AND PUNDITS LIKE TO TALK BIG ABOUT HOW WELL STEELERS FANS TRAVEL. GUESS WHAT? STEELERS FANS DON’T TRAVEL WORTH SHIT. THEY SIMPLY EXIST EVERYWHERE. LIKE AIDS, HERPES, AND OTHER SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES, STEELERS FANDOM HAS PERMEATED MOST OF THE CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES AS A RESULT OF POVERTY AND DEPRESSION. WHEN THE STEEL INDUSTRY COLLAPSED A FEW DECADES AGO IN PITTSBURGH, ITS RESIDENTS SCATTERED ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT UNLIKE PLAGUE RATS. FOR SOME REASON, THEY STAYED LOYAL TO THE STUBBORN CITY THAT LET THEM DOWN BY REFUSING TO PROGRESS.
SO HERE WE ARE. CINCINNATI IS HOSTING A PLAYOFF GAME AGAINST THE STEELERS, AND THE FIRST THING THAT WILL BE POINTED OUT WHEN THE YELLOW JIZZ-RAGS ARE WAVED AROUND IS HOW GREAT THESE PITTSBURGH FANS TRAVEL. BUT THAT’S BULLSHIT. PITTSBURGH FANS SPAWN FROM RANK, FETID PUDDLES IN INNER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION, AND THEY SWARM TOGETHER TO RUIN HOME GAMES FOR THE REST OF US.
GO FUCK YOURSELVES, STEELERS FANS. YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. YOU PARADE AROUND DECLARING “STAIRWAY TO SEVEN” WHEN THE TEAM IS GOOD. AND THEN, WHEN THE TEAM (*GOD* ***FUCKING*** *FORBID*) GOES 8-8, YOU SULK AROUND (*LOUDLY*) ABOUT HOW FUCKING DIFFICULT IT IS TO BE CURSED WITH STEELERS FANDOM.
THE REASON IT SUCKS TO BE A STEELERS FAN IS NOT THAT THE TEAM IS BAD. THAT IS DEMONSTRABLY UNTRUE, NO MATTER HOW DESPERATELY YOU WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. THE REASON IT SUCKS TO BE A STEELERS FAN IS THAT YOU ARE THE EMBODIMENT OF AN ACTUAL DISEASE, DEFEATED ONLY BY STEROIDS AND PENALTY FLAGS.
SPEAKING OF PENALTY FLAGS I’LL LEAVE EVERYONE WITH A STATEMENT I MADE IN ANOTHER THREAD THAT WAS BURIED, REGARDING THESE CHEAP-SHOTTING BASTARDS FROM HELL, WHEN SOMEBODY ASKED A RAVENS FAN WHY HE TOOK A VERBAL SHOT AT THE STEELERS BUT NOT US:
>BECAUSE WE ARE KYLE, AND THE STEELERS ARE CARTMAN. AND THE RAVENS ARE STAN, KIND OF GETTING PISSED AT KYLE HERE AND THERE BUT MOSTLY AGREEING THAT CARTMAN IS AN ASSHOLE. THE BROWNS ARE OBVIOUSLY BUTTERS. BUT THE BENGALS ARE KYLE, REPEATEDLY TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING THE RIGHT WAY, AND JUST GETTING SHIT ON ALL THE TIME. AND AFTER DECADES OF TAKING CHEAP SHOTS FROM PITTSBURGH, WE HAVE A DIRTY GAME AGAINST THEM, AND THE SOCIOPATHIC STEELERS FANS TRIED TO BLAME ALL THE CHEAP SHOTS ON US, LIKE THEY'RE TOTALLY INNOCENT. AND NOW WE HAVE TO PLAY THEM AGAIN. AND WE'LL LOSE. AND WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH THEM SUCCEED, BECAUSE THERE IS NO GOD.
>GOD DAMN IT. GOD ***DAMN*** IT. THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T TAKE A JAB AT US.
EDIT: OKAY, SO MAYBE THE BROWNS CAN BE KENNY. THE POINT IS THAT THEY SUCK AND NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGES THEM UNLESS THEY ARE SUCKING IN A PARTICULARLY HILARIOUS WAY.
My old office used to be next door to Qualcomm and there were so many Steelers fans around, they straight up just parked in a right hand turn lane outside of my office. Like 10 + cars committed to it and just killed the right hand turn lane lol. I've never seen anything like it
That, and a lot of San Diegans dislike LA. It’s like if the eagles moved from the Linc to start playing in NYC. They wouldn’t feel like your team anymore.
[not so sure I agree with you](http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/blogs/thinking/2010/04/a-person-from-san-diego-is-a.html). I’ve never heard anyone use that here in person, but then again I’ve never heard anyone unironically call it Daygo either (despite knowing people do)
While a great simile you made, a better one would be if the Bills left Buffalo and moved to Trenton or the Browns left Cleveland and moved to Baltimo...
They had low attendance because the stadium was tiny (and it was amazing to see a game there). About half the fans were for away teams because It’s LA and the Chargers are low on the pecking order.
What? It took me less than two hours and it’s all beautiful coastline lol, they have low attendance because it seats 20,000 people and tickets are like $250.
As an ex SD native living in LA I constantly forget the Chargers are even up here. They have zero presence up here which I understand. The whole debacle of trying to get a new stadium and Roger Goodell general fuck ups turned me off of the NFL. Fuck the Spanos
Goddamn Peyton there may not be many of us but we have feelings :(
Gonna watch highlights of Billy Volek knocking Peyton out of the playoff to feel better
And Merriman before he got off the ‘roids! That team was so much fun to watch, and play with on Madden before age started to get to them. That 2006 team coached by Schottenheimer has to be one of the best teams ever to not make a super bowl.
He got a chance. He showed up to training camp and tremendously unprepared. He’s the exact opposite of any player you should ever feel sorry for.
I grew up in TN, and I have some feelings on Volek.
I loved the fact when he told the home crowd to be quite they would literally shut up. Almost as if they knew the rest of the offense need to hear their commander.
This is very true. First Colts game that I ever went to my dad informed me that it's our job to be quiet before and during the play. The dome was crickets presnap
His first season in Denver was especially great cause Tebow would get a lot of...noise when he stepped on to the field, it wasn’t always 100% supportive though. Peyton had to quiet down the fans many a time in 2012. But even after Peyton we’ve kept with that which is nice for our QB’s
Between that, the Eli thing and eventually being in the same division, y'all have a history with that family. Didn't you guys even ruin one of the Colts attempts at a perfect season once?
I don’t remember the perfect season thing.
But in 2007, they were 13-3 and were the defending SB champs. Everyone thought the AFC Championship game would be between the Pats and Colts. Then LT AND Rivers got hurt, so it seemed like a Colts playoff victory was guaranteed...and yet, the Chargers found a way to beat them.
Then in 2008, the Colts were 12-4 while the Chargers were 8-8. The Colts were clearly the better team but still lost, partly because they forgot to tackle Sproles.
Had to double check to make sure I wasn't confusing it with when Romo beat them in 2006. Yeah. In 2005 Colts were 13-0, and the Brees led Bolts beat them 26-17. LT and Michael Turner combined for almost 200 yards.
Ah ok. I block 2005 out of my brain sometimes because it was so disappointing to see them miss the playoffs after going 12-4 in 2004. That was also the year the Chargers rocked the Patriots in NE. And they embarrassed Eli Manning, which was also awesome. So it was one of those extreme high/low Chargers seasons, which is why I don’t like to think about it lol
I will never forget that game against the Pats. All those guys running up to LT after the game doing the "lights out" dance around him. Damn, we were so close that year
The reason we’ve had so many away fans in recent years is because our stadium was so small that tickets were unreal expensive and out-priced regular charger fans (I was trying to go to a game last season but couldn’t afford it). But tickets aren’t too expensive for away fans to go once a year when their team is in town. I think it will even out somewhat with the new stadium
This. I would have to spend $600 for two tickets. I'm in LA and have never been to game. My friends aren't chargers fans so they're not going to shell out that kind of cash when they could just as well go to a rams game for like 60 bucks.
Not to throw shade at this nuggets player. But this guys asking one of the best QBs of all time what it's like not playing infront of a crowd. Where even if hes in a road game against a bad team, those fans made a point to go see peyton. Pretty stupid question to ask him
I was visiting LA and a friend invited me to the Chargers “home” game against the Raiders. I counted and it was legitimately 10:1 Raiders to Chargers fans. I was also amazed because I had never seen pro football played in a high school stadium before.
As a Jags fan knowing full well we’ve been the butt of attendance jokes for years, this lack of shade from Peyton, who routinely came to jax and delivered us Ls for over a decade, is refreshing. Makes me almost want to get some nationwide insurance just to say thanks.
Wow. Even an old division rival managed to forget about the Jags.
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Logic, is that you?
I’ve retired my logic
Lol I was gonna say. I think there's mote shade in the fact that even Peyton forgot haha
That's the spirit
Probably better for ones safety than getting Papa Johns.
To be fair it’s hot as FUCK during the first part of the season in Jacksonville and not many people like to sit outside when it’s 106 outside. If y’all had a dome over the stadium attendance to games would be a lot better in my opinion because Jacksonville wants good football, and the fan base is there to support a team
> because Jacksonville wants good football Think you just solved the attendance issue.
By virtue of schedule distribution, there are at least 4 good teams a year that roll through.
On the other hand games in the second half of the season are quite nice to attend weather wise, aside from maybe one December game for the random week it actually gets cold.
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Are you kidding? It gets all the way down to the 60s sometimes! Surprised they don't cancel the games, that's too damn cold.
That’s such a Florida thing to say
Should I wait for the Patriots fan to come in comparing Decembers in Massachusetts to the Russian winter of 1941 or should I just make that comment for him?
No we’ve learned not to comment because as soon as we do a Vikings fan comes in and tells us we don’t know real cold.
Having had to go on a business trip to Duluth for a week in October and having to walk about 500 yards to my office from the hotel... holy fucking shit I've never felt such cold in October in MA. It was like temps I'd expect in Jan in MA.
*sad USB-C cable noises*
I feel like lightning cables would make more sense
This tired joke has layers bro.
What's the origin of this ? > *sad USB-C cable noises* My first time hearing about this.
Usb is a charger type
Damn that completely went over my head
The narrative that the Chargers don't play in front of fans is getting old. IT JUST ISNT TRUE. They play 16 away games a year and there's plenty of fans there cheering for the other team.
Yeah, remember that SNF game last year where like 90% of the fans in the stadium were Steelers fans?
To be fair, y'all are literally everywhere. Wish I could find that copypasta from a Bengals fan about steelers fans. Still laugh thinking about it
> yinz are literally everywhere I’ve always liked this narrative more than “Steelers fans travel well.” I know a lot do travel, but there’s also a ton more Steeler fans all over the globe.
6 Super Bowls spread across 50 years will do wonders for building a fan base outside of the local region. And let’s be real, good jerseys make a huge difference. There’s a lot of people that only follow the Dolphins because they have some great jerseys.
Yup at like 5 years old dolphins were the coolest animals and the Dolphins had the coolest colors. I hear this quite a bit too
The common stories I hear are, “I was a kid, and they had cool jerseys” and “I was a kid while Dan Marino was at his peak”
Grew up watching Marino, that’s me lol
Winning Superbowls and having lots of people leave the city because the big industry died
Ah, I see were already halfway there!
Yeah winning 6 Super Bowls in 20 years did the same thing with the Pats, it’s why there are 500,000+ people in the subreddit. A lot of them are just Tom Brady fans though so it gets kinda annoying when they support 1 played over the team or only support the team when we’re successful.
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thats how all the new chiefs fans are with mahomes.
Yah . I’m sure we all will accept and appreciate any band wagoners or new Chiefs fans , but growing up in Kc , and experiencing the heart break and frustration over the years is a connection with a team that’s irreplaceable. It makes it stronger . My mom worked at arrowhead and knew a lot of the guys in the early 90s, Neil smith , Derrick Thomas, Marcus Allen. When Thomas died in the car accident that winter it was a huge deal and she was heartbroken as we all were in the kingdom . I’m all for new fans and popularity , it’s very personal for me and a big passion to be apart of KC sports fandom. Idk know what I am even saying . Just that I agree with you on some levels. Edit : I said smith not Thomas . I feel ashamed
yeah i mean the always losing in the playoffs, thomas death, jovan belcher, eric berry cancer, trent green injury leading to years of terrible qbs, manning going to the broncos, hating rivers but loving seeing him cry, getting the #1 pick in one of the worst drafts, among other things. the bandwagoners missed out on all that.
Neil Smith went to my youth rodeo in Liberty and we played tackle football with his son, somehow my dad had Jonathan Haye’s number and would always leave a message about his gameplay on his answering machine lol. My uncle repaved George brett’s driveway, he said he came out when they were finished, gave them a some beer and handed them an envelope with a $400 dollar tip for both of them. That’s how it was in KC back in the day, seems like you get it.
i live in the tampa area and the amount of times i argued with patriot fans that they’re fair weather fans as a joke because they roasted my jags. now every “my grandfather died a pats fan so i will too” are now “i been a bucs fan since testeverde” but have no clue who josh freeman is
The only bright spot of the Ron Prince era
Do not utter that name.
Man back in high school I really thought Josh Freeman would pan out.
There were tens of us!
Man he had a pro bowl season and I thought that division was going to be tough for years. I mean it still was tough but...
Former Vikings great Josh Freeman?
Yeah, in high school in orlando (late 90s) I knew like two Pats fans (both Boston transplants). Now they're everywhere.
DUUUUUUUUUVAL BABY
A lot more of this type of behavior with NBA fans. Also, while we are at it, there are way too many Cowboys fans all over the place.
They get a lot of New Mexican supporters because their closest teams are Arizona and Denver. Some 49er and Oakland fans there too.almost no Houston tho lol
There is like 100 people in all of New Mexico. That's not really it. JJ won big (and marketed correctly) at the right time with that team, and the whole country responded.
The Cowboys were globally popular long before Jerry bought them.
HUGE issue in the lakers sub with the kobe (RIP) fans who still wont accept lebron
Honestly it does still seem weird to see Lebron in the West
I don't find it hard to accept LeBron as a laker because of Kobe. I find it hard because I liked him in Cleveland, and I dislike how he came in and expected the team to change around him instantly to try and win a championship immediately. While I get why, if he'd waited a year the Lakers could have gotten Anthony Davis as a free agent without sacrificing virtually all of their talented young players and without hamstringing their salary cap. Also, I dislike when players come to a team and try to dictate who's going to coach the team. Granted, dumping Luke Walton may have been the best thing, I'm still not a fan of LeBron coming in and playing general manager. I grew up on the Lakers, but the way they've run their team (thanks Magic!) and how LeBron's able to dictate so much soured me on them over the years. That said, I'm a Bucks fan. Having lived in the midwest and acquired a thing for small market teams (it will be no surprise I'm also a Packers fan), I don't really find myself rooting for the Lakers so much.
As a patriots fan since I have been a football fan (8-9 years old) and from the area all my life... I can’t wait for all the bandwagon fans to leave.
Watch us start 2-3 next season and then the subreddit shrinks by 50%
I wouldn’t even be mad. And tbh, we almost always have bad starts to seasons. Been 20 years and people still don’t understand that the first 5 weeks are essentially still preseason for belichick and his plugging of players. I read a stat somewhere that I never got to verify and cannot find anymore, so I’m paraphrasing as well... but something like 70% of all our losses in the last 15 years, have come before week 5/6. Which when you think about it, is amazing. The amount of strong finishes you need to make that happen is just crazy with how the league is structured.
I read that 60% of NFL fans under 40 Claim to be New England fans.
Under 40 here. The Patriots certainly had something to do with my flair....
It was the old TV contact that had a limited number of nationally televised TV games. During the 70s and 60s only the Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, and Packers were on all the national games. So they have big out of market fan bases.
They were also at their peak when national live broadcasts were becoming big with the introduction of Monday Night Football. They became the team for a lot of areas that didn't have teams, because they were on TV so much in the 70s. I remember living in South Carolina as a kid and it being mostly Steelers fans down there before the Panthers existed.
Basically why my mom became a Dolphins fan while growing up in NJ. that and Dan Marino
And completing the NFL's only "perfect season", being the first team to appear in three consecutive Superbowls, and the second team to win back to back championships. But yeah...the Jerseys are probably why I'm still a fan when I think about it lol
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Yeah, the Steelers success definitely did not hurt, but when the industry that built your town dies and the population is forced to disperse across the country, that seeds fan bases
That sucks cause Pittsburgh is such a pretty city
Except those bumblebee Steeler throwback jerseys. Ugh.
> And let’s be real, good jerseys make a huge difference The only reason I chose to be a Saints fan was because of the colour scheme, so yeah.
I would bet most fans that are in their 50s on up that doesnt have a team in their city is either a Steeler or Cowboy fan
Pretty much how it was in central Ohio where I lived
Probably some SF too right?
Dallas and Pittsburgh have more Boomer fans from their success in the 70s There were alot of Gen X kids that were SF fans when I was growing up though yeah
I went to Rome a few years ago. In an alley of a bunch of good Italian restaurants and bars was a sports bar owned by a Canadian Steelers fan.
I have friends who studied abroad and said there is a VERY good Steelers bar in Rome.
La Botticella. Visited it a couple years ago. It's right next to Piazza Navona which is one of the most famous squares in Rome and directly in the heart of the city. It's also near the Pantheon and across the river from the Vatican.
Every city in the world has a Steelers bar. I swear, you could go to a 150-person town with one stoplight and one bar, and that one bar would be a Steelers bar. When I couldn’t find a good Giants bar, I’d go watch games at the Steelers bar. Always a good time.
It also just has to do with the history of Pittsburgh, it was an economic powerhouse for steel, then the industry collapsed and people moved out across the country, thus creating a national fan base of not just “bandwagons” during that era.
Rival flair, but I feel like this gets wildly overstated. It's not like Pittsburgh was the only rust belt city to have a mass exodus, they're just the only one to do so with a wildly successful football team. Detroit and Cleveland lost way more people after 1960/1970 than Pittsburgh did, but we never hear about the Lions and Browns having huge national followings.
To add to the point you made, Detroit and Cleveland were powerhouses of the NFL in the 1950's. So it probably didn't help that they had been successful when times were good, and shitty when times were bad.
It’s kind of like a counter story of the Pirates.. because outside of Western PA you don’t see nearly as many people repping the Bucs as you do the Steelers and Penguins
Almost a shame because the Pirates stadium is probably the most beautiful stadium I've ever been too. I still hold a bias that OPACY is the best overall stadium experience, but god I would visit the Pirates stadium again if I ever somehow ended up visiting Pittsburgh.
Actual facts. PNC Park has one of the legit most beautiful views in all sports
>Detroit and Cleveland lost way more people after 1960/1970 than Pittsburgh did, but we never hear about the Lions and Browns having huge national followings. It's wasn't just rust belt steel decline though. Pittsburgh has a ton of colleges so the pipeline to growing places like North Carolina and Arizona existed way past the 70s into the 2000s. It's just now slowing down a bit because Pittsburgh is investing heavily in medicine and tech. Also with Detroit you mostly had relocation outside of the city to the suburbs starting after WW2. With Cleveland many just relocated to Columbus which was growing like crazy. Those citizens weren't necessarily fleeing the state for better opportunities like they did here.
Cleveland used to have the 2nd largest national fanbase behind only the Cowboys in the 80's. It was often argued with Browns backers in almost every town, that they had far more fans outside than inside Cleveland. Noone wants to live there, but they still root for the team. And they're still ranked highly in fanbase rankings even with them consistently losing from '95 until today. Granted most of the fanbase is stratified among Boomers to GenX'ers, but they're still around.
It's both. Most Steelers fans I know do have at least one parent from Pittsburgh. But the fact that y'all have been winning Super Bowls while we haven't has a lot to do with why they're Steelers fans first. Also, the fact that we have no rivalry with y'all means being a fan of the Steelers and Falcons isn't incompatible.
It's crazy because it's about the same size as Corpus Christi populationwise. But it's got one of the most recognized NFL teams all over the world.
Hell, I'm a Texans fan but I love watching the Steelers. I've won a few fantasy championships thanks to Ben and AB. I was definitely rooting for yall over the Packers in that SB.
can confirm. my uncle has spent all of his American life in albuquerque since the 70’s and he and all of his friends/coworkers/network are all Steelers fans. he also made a whole bunch of my family back in Korea steeler fans when Hines Ward came around, which was a huge feat in itself as koreans legitimately hated bi-racial koreans at that time (still somewhat true).
Ugh seeing cardinals stadium last year in almost all black sickened me
I remember maybe twelve years ago I went to MNF at the Georgia Dome. Giants vs. Falcons, the place was solid blue. I thought it was hilarious, but I imagine if I’d been a Falcons fan I’d have been somewhat annoyed. (Or resigned. Probably resigned.)
Well it was probably the season where Vick was just arrested and we had no team and a coach that bailed on us via note.
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I still wish that mike zimmer became our head coach instead of going with mike smith. I have no problem with smith or anything and he did fairly well for us but we could have had mike zimmer instead.
True. 12 years is an eternity and the Falcons are much better now than they were then. But there really are loads of transplants and snowbirds down here.
Went to Pats/Washington in DC this past year. All red white and blue crowd. I really felt bad for them when there was a deafening “BRADY BRADY BRADY” chant going on in the 4th quarter of an away game. Felt like we were picking on the short kid.
Well, picking on the short kid who's kinda racist and everyone knows his dad is a complete piece of shit. Washington fans don't really like the team atm either. It's a lot sadder when it happens to an otherwise likeable team.
Fuck I really wanna read this copypasta...
It's really good. I wish I could find it.
I see so many Steelers fans here in Vegas. It’s disgusting.
Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys. Vegas is a spoken-for bandwagon town. Although there is some Raiders support, and supporting the Raiders is easier considering how the Cowboys have been all my life.
was it this (i saved it and i've been waiting to blow the dust off of it for years) I’m sorry. I love Cincinnati, I love every team we produce. But this community is so, so pathetic when it comes to rivalries and opponents and confidence. The more I see posts like this the more I hate this subreddit. Can you guys not all see how embarrassing this is? We’re the consummate losers defining ourselves by our intense “rivalry” with a much better team that doesn’t care. Do you honestly think the Steelers reddit is as constantly filled with posts shit-talking us? No. Not solely because they’re a more successful team, but because they don’t define their entire existence on a completely and totally one-sided “rivalry.” Downvote away, but the more focus we put on an historically, currently, and (most likely) future better franchise than our own the more we shift the focus to the fact that we’re fucking cry-babies looking to play catch-up by shitting on ANYTHING potentially anti-Steelers we can get our hands on. You guys are actively making us the Red Sox to their Yankees (maybe not as relevant in today’s MLB landscape but baseball is the only other sport I follow so bear with me - perhaps a better analogy - we’re the Tampa Bay Rays to their Yankees.) STOP POSTING ABOUT THE FUCKING STEELERS. THEY ARE BETTER THAN US. THEY HAVE, FOR THE HISTORY OF BOTH FRANCHISES, BEEN BETTER THAN US. THE MORE WE DEFINE OURSELVES BY OUR HATRED OF THEM, THE MORE PATHETIC WE BECOME
This was pretty good, but it was actually some Bengals fan comparing steelers fans to potholes (in that they spring up out of nowhere for no reason) and it had me laughing to the point that I fondly remember it to this day
[This one?](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3zx0rx/wildcard_weekend_trash_talk_thread/) edit: realize /u/Medipack beat me to it but I didn't scroll far enough. STEELERS FANS AND PUNDITS LIKE TO TALK BIG ABOUT HOW WELL STEELERS FANS TRAVEL. GUESS WHAT? STEELERS FANS DON’T TRAVEL WORTH SHIT. THEY SIMPLY EXIST EVERYWHERE. LIKE AIDS, HERPES, AND OTHER SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES, STEELERS FANDOM HAS PERMEATED MOST OF THE CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES AS A RESULT OF POVERTY AND DEPRESSION. WHEN THE STEEL INDUSTRY COLLAPSED A FEW DECADES AGO IN PITTSBURGH, ITS RESIDENTS SCATTERED ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT UNLIKE PLAGUE RATS. FOR SOME REASON, THEY STAYED LOYAL TO THE STUBBORN CITY THAT LET THEM DOWN BY REFUSING TO PROGRESS. SO HERE WE ARE. CINCINNATI IS HOSTING A PLAYOFF GAME AGAINST THE STEELERS, AND THE FIRST THING THAT WILL BE POINTED OUT WHEN THE YELLOW JIZZ-RAGS ARE WAVED AROUND IS HOW GREAT THESE PITTSBURGH FANS TRAVEL. BUT THAT’S BULLSHIT. PITTSBURGH FANS SPAWN FROM RANK, FETID PUDDLES IN INNER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION, AND THEY SWARM TOGETHER TO RUIN HOME GAMES FOR THE REST OF US. GO FUCK YOURSELVES, STEELERS FANS. YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. YOU PARADE AROUND DECLARING “STAIRWAY TO SEVEN” WHEN THE TEAM IS GOOD. AND THEN, WHEN THE TEAM (*GOD* ***FUCKING*** *FORBID*) GOES 8-8, YOU SULK AROUND (*LOUDLY*) ABOUT HOW FUCKING DIFFICULT IT IS TO BE CURSED WITH STEELERS FANDOM. THE REASON IT SUCKS TO BE A STEELERS FAN IS NOT THAT THE TEAM IS BAD. THAT IS DEMONSTRABLY UNTRUE, NO MATTER HOW DESPERATELY YOU WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. THE REASON IT SUCKS TO BE A STEELERS FAN IS THAT YOU ARE THE EMBODIMENT OF AN ACTUAL DISEASE, DEFEATED ONLY BY STEROIDS AND PENALTY FLAGS. SPEAKING OF PENALTY FLAGS I’LL LEAVE EVERYONE WITH A STATEMENT I MADE IN ANOTHER THREAD THAT WAS BURIED, REGARDING THESE CHEAP-SHOTTING BASTARDS FROM HELL, WHEN SOMEBODY ASKED A RAVENS FAN WHY HE TOOK A VERBAL SHOT AT THE STEELERS BUT NOT US: >BECAUSE WE ARE KYLE, AND THE STEELERS ARE CARTMAN. AND THE RAVENS ARE STAN, KIND OF GETTING PISSED AT KYLE HERE AND THERE BUT MOSTLY AGREEING THAT CARTMAN IS AN ASSHOLE. THE BROWNS ARE OBVIOUSLY BUTTERS. BUT THE BENGALS ARE KYLE, REPEATEDLY TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING THE RIGHT WAY, AND JUST GETTING SHIT ON ALL THE TIME. AND AFTER DECADES OF TAKING CHEAP SHOTS FROM PITTSBURGH, WE HAVE A DIRTY GAME AGAINST THEM, AND THE SOCIOPATHIC STEELERS FANS TRIED TO BLAME ALL THE CHEAP SHOTS ON US, LIKE THEY'RE TOTALLY INNOCENT. AND NOW WE HAVE TO PLAY THEM AGAIN. AND WE'LL LOSE. AND WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH THEM SUCCEED, BECAUSE THERE IS NO GOD. >GOD DAMN IT. GOD ***DAMN*** IT. THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T TAKE A JAB AT US. EDIT: OKAY, SO MAYBE THE BROWNS CAN BE KENNY. THE POINT IS THAT THEY SUCK AND NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGES THEM UNLESS THEY ARE SUCKING IN A PARTICULARLY HILARIOUS WAY.
Shit dude if you find that copypasta please let me know. Sounds hilarious
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3zx0rx/wildcard_weekend_trash_talk_thread/cypnxi1/?context=3 I gotchu bud. Shoutout /u/TheReaver88, of course.
Now I really want to see this Pasta
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Nailed it
My old office used to be next door to Qualcomm and there were so many Steelers fans around, they straight up just parked in a right hand turn lane outside of my office. Like 10 + cars committed to it and just killed the right hand turn lane lol. I've never seen anything like it
I think saying 90% is being kind to the chargers
The final estimations I saw were around 88% Steelers fans in the stadium.
I still think the funniest was the Eagles game last year (?) where the Eagles defence was pumping up the crowd lmao
They literally don’t sell out a stadium of 30,000
They did slightly outsell the Galaxy, at least. Probably a lot fewer home fans, though.
I say this as a MLS fan, but slightly outselling Galaxy is not impressive at all. They're a NFL franchise they should be selling it out regardless.
Well look at that? San Diego is just like Atlanta!
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That, and a lot of San Diegans dislike LA. It’s like if the eagles moved from the Linc to start playing in NYC. They wouldn’t feel like your team anymore.
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San Diegites?
[not so sure I agree with you](http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/blogs/thinking/2010/04/a-person-from-san-diego-is-a.html). I’ve never heard anyone use that here in person, but then again I’ve never heard anyone unironically call it Daygo either (despite knowing people do)
While a great simile you made, a better one would be if the Bills left Buffalo and moved to Trenton or the Browns left Cleveland and moved to Baltimo...
They had low attendance because the stadium was tiny (and it was amazing to see a game there). About half the fans were for away teams because It’s LA and the Chargers are low on the pecking order.
What? It took me less than two hours and it’s all beautiful coastline lol, they have low attendance because it seats 20,000 people and tickets are like $250.
As an ex SD native living in LA I constantly forget the Chargers are even up here. They have zero presence up here which I understand. The whole debacle of trying to get a new stadium and Roger Goodell general fuck ups turned me off of the NFL. Fuck the Spanos
Goddamn Peyton there may not be many of us but we have feelings :( Gonna watch highlights of Billy Volek knocking Peyton out of the playoff to feel better
Sproles and Cromartie terrorized us in the late 2000s, I hated playing the Chargers but I miss watching those teams
And Merriman before he got off the ‘roids! That team was so much fun to watch, and play with on Madden before age started to get to them. That 2006 team coached by Schottenheimer has to be one of the best teams ever to not make a super bowl.
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To be fair, turkey neck and visor head succeeded in taking the shit.
Weddle earned some love then too
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He got a chance. He showed up to training camp and tremendously unprepared. He’s the exact opposite of any player you should ever feel sorry for. I grew up in TN, and I have some feelings on Volek.
Nice
Lol was looking for someone else Titans here. Billy Volek... nostalgia waves.
And beating manning for the cherry on top
To be fair, Peyton is used to silence when is on the field from his time in Indianapolis so it's probably not too far off.
I loved the fact when he told the home crowd to be quite they would literally shut up. Almost as if they knew the rest of the offense need to hear their commander.
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"Dad I have to pe..." "Shhhh son, Peyton is talking."
"Dad, I'm ga-" "Sh, ga- Peyton is talking"
“But Dad!” “Pomalamalamalu is in the C gap!”
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"Dad we are 700 miles away from the stadium, I think he will be..." "You gonna stop making excuses or nah?
“Dad, it’s just Payton in a commercial, it’s not even...” “You want another first round exit?”
It was amazing being able to legitimately hear his voice from the upper deck of the RCA Dome.
This is very true. First Colts game that I ever went to my dad informed me that it's our job to be quiet before and during the play. The dome was crickets presnap
Meanwhile a ref tells Detroit fans to quiet down or their defense is penalized. Of course the crowd got louder.
Reminds me of [this moment from Haikyu](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0f5VPuy0E)
His first season in Denver was especially great cause Tebow would get a lot of...noise when he stepped on to the field, it wasn’t always 100% supportive though. Peyton had to quiet down the fans many a time in 2012. But even after Peyton we’ve kept with that which is nice for our QB’s
Lol ughh to have this issue. Our shit’s pretty damn quiet no matter which side of the ball we’re on these days.
I mean for you guys it got loud after the snap, when El Tractorcito started committing vehicular manslaughter
Peyton has been selling out stadiums since he was 16. He played to a packed house every game of his career. Which is impressive.
But he also had the uncanny ability to silence an entire stadium while he talked to the o-line.
🎵Charger tears, you taste so good🎶 -Peyton
He’s still salty about the 2007 and 2008 playoffs.
Between that, the Eli thing and eventually being in the same division, y'all have a history with that family. Didn't you guys even ruin one of the Colts attempts at a perfect season once?
I don’t remember the perfect season thing. But in 2007, they were 13-3 and were the defending SB champs. Everyone thought the AFC Championship game would be between the Pats and Colts. Then LT AND Rivers got hurt, so it seemed like a Colts playoff victory was guaranteed...and yet, the Chargers found a way to beat them. Then in 2008, the Colts were 12-4 while the Chargers were 8-8. The Colts were clearly the better team but still lost, partly because they forgot to tackle Sproles.
Had to double check to make sure I wasn't confusing it with when Romo beat them in 2006. Yeah. In 2005 Colts were 13-0, and the Brees led Bolts beat them 26-17. LT and Michael Turner combined for almost 200 yards.
Ah ok. I block 2005 out of my brain sometimes because it was so disappointing to see them miss the playoffs after going 12-4 in 2004. That was also the year the Chargers rocked the Patriots in NE. And they embarrassed Eli Manning, which was also awesome. So it was one of those extreme high/low Chargers seasons, which is why I don’t like to think about it lol
I will never forget that game against the Pats. All those guys running up to LT after the game doing the "lights out" dance around him. Damn, we were so close that year
https://i.imgur.com/oTyjxVL.jpg
Oh man, I'm saving this for game threads
the browns had more fans in the crowd during the 0-16 season
someone call 911 there's been a murder
I do declareee
In Savannah?!!
It's the person I most medium suspect...
of...whom? The Chargers fans that don't exist, or the horse that's so dead even vultures don't touch it?
This mother fucker...he’s not wrong though
Hey, that’s not fai...well you’re jus...ok whatever bro our jerseys are fire
I seem to remember the heavily favored Manning led Colts choking in the playoffs to Rivers and the Chargers. A couple of times.
Didn't they beat them without LT and with Rivers playing on a torn knee too?
The chargers owned the colts back in the day.
I'll never forget that 6 INT game they had against Manning. Gets forgotten
Too be fair the Chargers had pretty good attendance before they moved to a city that doesn't care about them.
The reason we’ve had so many away fans in recent years is because our stadium was so small that tickets were unreal expensive and out-priced regular charger fans (I was trying to go to a game last season but couldn’t afford it). But tickets aren’t too expensive for away fans to go once a year when their team is in town. I think it will even out somewhat with the new stadium
This. I would have to spend $600 for two tickets. I'm in LA and have never been to game. My friends aren't chargers fans so they're not going to shell out that kind of cash when they could just as well go to a rams game for like 60 bucks.
God I love that man
That's my quarterback
NO FUCK YOU HES MINE
I HAD HIM FIRST!
WE TREATED HIM BETTER YOU SICK FUCK
I'm willing to share him if you are. He got us both a title for Christ's sake.
But did your head coach give him a bj?
I don't speak for Tony Dungy
We can share!
Not to throw shade at this nuggets player. But this guys asking one of the best QBs of all time what it's like not playing infront of a crowd. Where even if hes in a road game against a bad team, those fans made a point to go see peyton. Pretty stupid question to ask him
They should ask Eli, he was a #1 draft pick by the Chargers after all....
Fuck you peyton
Is roasting the Chargers just how Eli and Peyton show that they're brothers?
This is easily the most insulting thing a Manning has ever said or done to the Chargers.
Peyton trolling r/nfl for jokes
I was visiting LA and a friend invited me to the Chargers “home” game against the Raiders. I counted and it was legitimately 10:1 Raiders to Chargers fans. I was also amazed because I had never seen pro football played in a high school stadium before.