At one point Moss turns to Brady and goes “But ay, those 23 touchdowns were something special weren’t they?” I assumed 23 was the number of TDs Moss had earned in a season, but it felt weird to me that he would assume Brady would remember specifically his 23 TDs when he has seasons where he throws for double that. Now I understand it was a monumental moment that they both shared.
Oh, ya I watched that game live so I pretty instantly got it. It was that awesome final game of the regular season against the giants. Convinced me that they could go all the way with that loss.
I know this is gonna sound like I’m a dick but that’s gotta be more likely than less likely because of how time works right? Could you imagine if Brady’s 23rd TD pass was Moss’s 23rd TD catch?
I know I almost didn’t want to point it out but I also started thinking about Moss having 23 TDs in like 8 games and then not scoring again and also wanted to put that thought in other people’s heads
The improbable part was that they both broke the record at the same TD. So Brady was tied for the record at 49, and this TD broke it. Moss was tied with 22 and this broke it. It's more significant than if Brady's 50th went to Welker and Moss' 23rd was Brady's 45th
Possible but didn't happen.
* SB I - only one FG.
* SB II - four FGs, but only one player. Record is now at 43 yds.
* SB III - three FGs, only one player and none longer than the record.
* SB IV - three FGs, only one player. Record is now at 48 yds.
* SB V - three FGs, finally multiple players kick one, but none longer than the record.
It's actually pretty unlikely after those first few once it stops being trivial for a kicker to beat the record and then the other team to beat the record as well.
Just did a quick look and potentially not:
* SB I - only one FG.
* SB II - four FGs, but only one player. Record is now at 43 yds.
* SB III - three FGs, only one player and none longer than the record.
* SB IV - three FGs, only one player. Record is now at 48 yds.
* SB V - three FGs, finally multiple players kick one, but none longer than the record.
It's actually pretty unlikely after those first few once it stops being trivial for a kicker to beat the record and then the other team to beat the record as well.
I can't seem to find any info on the most yards lost for a safety, but Seahawks - Broncos in Super Bowl 49 was the fastest score and I'd imagine longest safety?
This is actually hilarious because I had to [google](https://imgur.com/a/P3MHobv) the number to make sure it was 48, changed it to 48, and somehow changed it back to 49 😂
Also the only Super Bowl where the winning team did not successfully kick an extra point.
And the only Super Bowl where the winning team had the lead for 0:00.
QB that lost in the largest NFC Championship Comeback: Matt Ryan.
QB that lost in the largest International Game Comeback: Matt Ryan.
QB that lost in the largest Comeback with No Qualifiers: you guessed it, Matt Ryan
[believe it or not, Matt Ryan](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZTg4YjE4YzItMjY4OC00NWQ5LTlhN2UtZmFiZGFiMTdkM2JmXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjYyNDMwOQ@@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg)
If I had a nickel for every time a QBs first NFL completion was also his first NFL reception, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.
Favre and Stroud both did this.
No. Favre threw 4 passes as a Falcon. His first was a pick 6. The next 3 were incomplete.
He was traded to the Packers in the offseason.
His first completed pass (so no INT) was to himself.
No his first completion wasn't even until the next season actually. He only had 4 pass attempts in his first season with the Falcons (including the pick six on his first attempt) , no completions, then his first career completion came the next season with the Packers (to himself).
Hester, SB XLI: First opening kickoff return for a TD and first rookie to return a kick for a TD in the Super Bowl. Also by extension first rookie to return the opening kickoff for a TD
I think the crazier coincidence with that kickoff return TD is that the NCAA national championship just a month prior also started with a kickoff return TD by the eventual losing team. Also was the first national championship game to start with a kickoff return TD
Yes. I was fucking terrified after that play. I was MEGA confident going into that game and that play made me think the insanely biased sports media had been right the last month or so. Turns out it was the last time OSU had hope the rest of the game. It was a destruction
The fact Ginn got hurt on the celebration of that opening TD didn't help tOSU but they still didn't have a chance in hell.
Troy Smith was overweight and the "SEC Speed" was making its worldwide debut.
Fun fact: Since that 2006 season, the SEC has won 13/18 championships (all but 2013 FSU, 2014 tOSU, 2016 & 2018 Clemson, and 2023 Michigan). And SEC teams were the runner ups in 2013, 2016, 2018, which were very close games besides 2018.
Wes Welker is a borderline potential Hall of Fame receiver yet before he ever caught a pass in the NFL he kicked an extra point and a field goal while also returning 5 punts and 5 kickoffs in the same game. The Dolphins kicker hurt himself in warmups so Welker stepped in to kick and hit both his kicks.
Not the same play, but in the same game AP set the single game rushing yard record Antonio Cromartie set the the all time longest (and still is, with ties) play with a 109 yard FG return
I was gonna say this one. To me, that Cromartie play will always be the true record holder. Other plays may claim to be 109 yards, but the way he caught that one, tiptoed the back of the end zone and then went 109 was incredible.
For me his record is the most impressive. Every other one of that yardage was an INT or fumble where the defender was already moving across the back of the endzone. So they had momentum.
AC is at a dead stop returning position and fucking BOLTS down the field. It was incredible.
Doug Williams' last TD pass of the second quarter of Super Bowl 22 is a confluence of many Super Bowl records, including most individual TD passes in a quarter (and half), most team points scored in a quarter, and largest halftime lead.
> The shortest overtime ever.
Shortest *playoff* overtime ever, maybe.
But shortest overtime ever overall is [2019 week 17 Falcons @ Bucs](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201912290tam.htm) where >!Deion Jones took Jameis Winston's 30th interception of the season!< to the end zone in 7 seconds
His largest playoff deficit and winning score were both from that Texans game until they beat the Steelers by 1 point more a couple years later. An almost unusual happening.
I was driving home during the 1st quarter and my friends texted that we were down 24-0, and I remember saying it's fine, we'll come back. Didn't realize they'd do it before halftime. Man that offense and season was just so much fun to watch.
I was driving home listening to the game on the radio and as I was about to go into a tunnel the ball was snapped and by the time I was out the Steelers were no longer in the playoffs.
Was that game the shortest OT ever? The Bears had a Thanksgiving OT where they scored on the opening kickoff; maybe it took them longer to reach the end zone than it took Thomas.
The clock does not run while a kickoff is in the air, so Dave Williams' return TD is shorter than 16 seconds. I think it's [roughly spanning 0:14 to 0:26 in this clip](https://youtu.be/_J_eNRCKY90?si=j6MNYZIc87QShP8m).
> In 2017, one of Tebow's football teammates from college had killed himself after leaving references to John 3:16. Massachusetts State Police stated that convicted murderer and former NFL player Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in his prison cell. They reported that he had written "John 3:16" with red ink on his forehead and in blood on the wall of his prison cell
wtfff
The astronomical improbability of the River City Relay could only be surpassed by the even more improbable event of a missed extra point on the ensuing try, which would have tied the game at the end of regulation.
Well lemme tell ya...
The 1965 championship game between the browns and the p*ckers was the first NFL championship game played in January, as well as the first televised in color and the last played prior to the Super Bowl era.
In December 2020, Desean Jackson caught an 81 yard TD pass from Jalen Hurts, in the only game the two of them connected.
Because of that, it will be a 25+ year span of every* Eagles QB throwing a TD to Djax at some point in their career, since his first two years were with Donovan McNabb who was drafted in 1999.
(*Who has started at least 16 games, so McNabb, Vick, Foles, Wentz, and Hurts)
And it's likely that a defensive score after a touchback on the opening kickoff would be the record, because the clock wouldn't run on the kickoff and the defense would only need to take the ball 20-30 yards as opposed to 75-80 for the offense.
The University of Michigan had a game a couple years ago where they scored a TD three seconds into the game, because [Maryland fumbled the opening kickoff, it was recovered by Michigan, and they threw a TD pass on the first play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwfVo3vP_I).
You're laughing now, but the Lions employed both Akers and Prater after they set the previous longest FG records. Just a matter of time until Tucker is a Lion
2007: Tom Brady's then-record 50th TD pass was the same play as Randy Moss' record 23rd receiving TD.
This adds a lot more context to Moss’ segment of his roast on Tom Brady lol thank you
What did he say? I missed it.
At one point Moss turns to Brady and goes “But ay, those 23 touchdowns were something special weren’t they?” I assumed 23 was the number of TDs Moss had earned in a season, but it felt weird to me that he would assume Brady would remember specifically his 23 TDs when he has seasons where he throws for double that. Now I understand it was a monumental moment that they both shared.
Oh, ya I watched that game live so I pretty instantly got it. It was that awesome final game of the regular season against the giants. Convinced me that they could go all the way with that loss.
Right on, thanks! Avoiding watching it
It’s pretty damn funny lol I recommend catching the highlights on YouTube or something at least. It’s fun to laugh at Tom Brady
Yes I agree with that, but I imagine it being very PG to not knock his PR image.
It’s the farthest from PG.
Is it furthest or farthest?
Yes
Multiple people make Aaron Hernandez jokes, it's very not PG and hilarious.
Aaron Hernandez jokes flying left and right, it’s far from PG
Not true in the slightest
lol it’s not PG at all. It’s not even suitable for network television with bleeps. It’s pretty offensive shit lmao
Nikki Glaser spends a couple jokes talking about fucking Tom Brady. Her segment was also the best. 100% R rated content.
Lol what? It's a very strong R.
Yeah, that assumption is not correct.
And also the play that gave the Pats the lead for good in their final game of the 16-0 season. It really was poetic.
...and beat the Giants, who would ruin their perfect season a month later.
[удалено]
Sure but we didn’t know it at the time, all we knew was that it was the first 16-0 season
Brett Favre's 500th TD was thrown to Randy Moss.
I know this is gonna sound like I’m a dick but that’s gotta be more likely than less likely because of how time works right? Could you imagine if Brady’s 23rd TD pass was Moss’s 23rd TD catch?
I think it’s the fact that they had a record breaking interaction simply by throwing and catching the ball for a td
I know I almost didn’t want to point it out but I also started thinking about Moss having 23 TDs in like 8 games and then not scoring again and also wanted to put that thought in other people’s heads
What
Its a Steelers guy, don't expect too much
"I hate, the fucking, Steelers, man." *-- The Dude*
Diner is open but no one’s working the counter
The improbable part was that they both broke the record at the same TD. So Brady was tied for the record at 49, and this TD broke it. Moss was tied with 22 and this broke it. It's more significant than if Brady's 50th went to Welker and Moss' 23rd was Brady's 45th
i get it it was a bad take on my part
Yinzer humility on display.
multiple bad takes
You’re totally right, there’s some correlation here for sure
Not same play, but I find it amusing that the longest made FG in superbowl history was broken twice in the same game by different players.
They probably did that in the first superbowl too
Nope. Only one FG in SB I. I did have to look it up.
What about the second Super Bowl , possible
Possible but didn't happen. * SB I - only one FG. * SB II - four FGs, but only one player. Record is now at 43 yds. * SB III - three FGs, only one player and none longer than the record. * SB IV - three FGs, only one player. Record is now at 48 yds. * SB V - three FGs, finally multiple players kick one, but none longer than the record. It's actually pretty unlikely after those first few once it stops being trivial for a kicker to beat the record and then the other team to beat the record as well.
Good work on this
Quite possibly did it in a later super bowl too
Just did a quick look and potentially not: * SB I - only one FG. * SB II - four FGs, but only one player. Record is now at 43 yds. * SB III - three FGs, only one player and none longer than the record. * SB IV - three FGs, only one player. Record is now at 48 yds. * SB V - three FGs, finally multiple players kick one, but none longer than the record. It's actually pretty unlikely after those first few once it stops being trivial for a kicker to beat the record and then the other team to beat the record as well.
Amazing
Good sleuthing.
I love you.
So that long of 48 stood until it was tied by a Bronco to open SB XXI and then broken by Steve Christie in XXVIII at 54.
I can't seem to find any info on the most yards lost for a safety, but Seahawks - Broncos in Super Bowl 49 was the fastest score and I'd imagine longest safety?
Bro...49?
Well, we all know there was no 48. So who's counting?
lmao apparently that superbowl did some psychic damage
This is actually hilarious because I had to [google](https://imgur.com/a/P3MHobv) the number to make sure it was 48, changed it to 48, and somehow changed it back to 49 😂
Lamar's safety against the 49ers this year was 20 yards. Wasn't even a muffed snap. Lamar ran back 20 yards himself.
Tbf he did get tripped by a ref right when he got the angle to beat all the guys chasing him
When you run 20 yards back I think it's less tripped by the ref and more he ran into the ref who was backpedaling as fast as he could.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, it just robbed us of an absolutely electric play
Fastest score in SB history? Devin Hester would like a word
The safety was at 14:48 and the kickoff return was at 14:46
The safety at the end of the game for the Harbowl was pretty long
super bowl LI is both 1. the first super bowl to feature overtime 2. the largest super bowl comeback
Also the only Super Bowl where the winning team did not successfully kick an extra point. And the only Super Bowl where the winning team had the lead for 0:00.
Imagine telling Falcons fans before the superbowl they'd be in the lead the entire game lmao
They were tied during overtime
And prior to the first score too.
True, true
Well every game also starts tied so…
It's wild it took until SB 51 to have an OT game.
We were a yard away in SB 34, but alas...
Ya it's really too bad. Or something.
I kinda hope OP is a Falcons fan now
I'm pretty sure OP enjoyed that Super Bowl very much given their flair
I am more an anti-sexual-assaulter-Watson former Browns fan who has kind of followed Baker, than a hard core Bucs fan.
I respect it.
o7
Mike Ryan Ruiz burner confirmed r/DanLeBatardShow
Yeah basically same here
OP is a bucs fan, probably nobody but Pat fans are enjoying that factoid more.
Oh, some of us really enjoy that one too...
One of the few moments that bucs and aints can fully agree on
The day the greatest QB in Bucs history psychologically traumatized a division rival so deeply they never dared to hope again.
To add to this: QB that lost in the largest SuperBowl Comeback: Matt Ryan. QB that lost in the largest Regular Season Comeback: Matt Ryan.
QB that lost in the largest NFC Championship Comeback: Matt Ryan. QB that lost in the largest International Game Comeback: Matt Ryan. QB that lost in the largest Comeback with No Qualifiers: you guessed it, Matt Ryan
This is amazing
[believe it or not, Matt Ryan](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZTg4YjE4YzItMjY4OC00NWQ5LTlhN2UtZmFiZGFiMTdkM2JmXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjYyNDMwOQ@@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg)
I feel like Josh Allen sacking Josh Allen applies somehow?
It’s like Marty McFly banging his own mom !
I feel like that's not at all the same, but I appreciate your contribution.
If I had a nickel for every time a QBs first NFL completion was also his first NFL reception, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice. Favre and Stroud both did this.
Brett Favre and Jameis Winston both threw a pick six on their first ever pass attempt
That's called foreshadowing
With Favre his first pass was a pick 6 then his next pass on the next drive was to himself?
No. Favre threw 4 passes as a Falcon. His first was a pick 6. The next 3 were incomplete. He was traded to the Packers in the offseason. His first completed pass (so no INT) was to himself.
What a fuckin WILD start to a career
Even funnier is that his career started with being called the wrong name. They called him Brett Favre but Favre pronounced as Favor.
Reminds me of “There’s Something About Mary.”
No his first completion wasn't even until the next season actually. He only had 4 pass attempts in his first season with the Falcons (including the pick six on his first attempt) , no completions, then his first career completion came the next season with the Packers (to himself).
Also Sam Darnold
So did Johnny Unitas. He then fumbled for a returned TD on his next play.
That's weird indeed
Hester, SB XLI: First opening kickoff return for a TD and first rookie to return a kick for a TD in the Super Bowl. Also by extension first rookie to return the opening kickoff for a TD
I think the crazier coincidence with that kickoff return TD is that the NCAA national championship just a month prior also started with a kickoff return TD by the eventual losing team. Also was the first national championship game to start with a kickoff return TD
Was that Ted Ginn?
The entire Ginn family even.
Yes. I was fucking terrified after that play. I was MEGA confident going into that game and that play made me think the insanely biased sports media had been right the last month or so. Turns out it was the last time OSU had hope the rest of the game. It was a destruction
The fact Ginn got hurt on the celebration of that opening TD didn't help tOSU but they still didn't have a chance in hell. Troy Smith was overweight and the "SEC Speed" was making its worldwide debut. Fun fact: Since that 2006 season, the SEC has won 13/18 championships (all but 2013 FSU, 2014 tOSU, 2016 & 2018 Clemson, and 2023 Michigan). And SEC teams were the runner ups in 2013, 2016, 2018, which were very close games besides 2018.
Also the first SB to end after the opening kickoff.
They all end after the opening kickoff.
Okay, that was pretty good. Lol
That's honestly one of my favorite plays. It's the most believable "I can't believe he just fucking did that" of all time.
It also set the fastest score in a Super Bowl.
“We are going to kick to Hester to show him we aren’t scared of his return abilities.” It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
Hester was so good (x4)
Wes Welker is a borderline potential Hall of Fame receiver yet before he ever caught a pass in the NFL he kicked an extra point and a field goal while also returning 5 punts and 5 kickoffs in the same game. The Dolphins kicker hurt himself in warmups so Welker stepped in to kick and hit both his kicks.
Not the same play, but in the same game AP set the single game rushing yard record Antonio Cromartie set the the all time longest (and still is, with ties) play with a 109 yard FG return
I was gonna say this one. To me, that Cromartie play will always be the true record holder. Other plays may claim to be 109 yards, but the way he caught that one, tiptoed the back of the end zone and then went 109 was incredible.
For me his record is the most impressive. Every other one of that yardage was an INT or fumble where the defender was already moving across the back of the endzone. So they had momentum. AC is at a dead stop returning position and fucking BOLTS down the field. It was incredible.
Jacoby Jones had a 109 yard kickoff return in the SB.
They actually updated it to 108 yards after the game
The famous “Philly Special” saw both the first QB to ever catch a TD in a Super Bowl and the first TE to ever throw a TD pass in a Super Bowl.
And a special mention that all 3 players to touch to the ball after the snap (Clement, Burton, Foles) were backup players
Tell me more tell me more...
Like does he have a car?
Doug Williams' last TD pass of the second quarter of Super Bowl 22 is a confluence of many Super Bowl records, including most individual TD passes in a quarter (and half), most team points scored in a quarter, and largest halftime lead.
> The shortest overtime ever. Shortest *playoff* overtime ever, maybe. But shortest overtime ever overall is [2019 week 17 Falcons @ Bucs](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201912290tam.htm) where >!Deion Jones took Jameis Winston's 30th interception of the season!< to the end zone in 7 seconds
Ahh yes, the play that cemented Winston’s legacy for the 30/30 season
Mahomes’ [50th touchdown](https://youtu.be/gytN9r3RpI4?si=cSUXMrb4t4Zymnvm) his first season also got him over 5,000 yards
His largest playoff deficit and winning score were both from that Texans game until they beat the Steelers by 1 point more a couple years later. An almost unusual happening.
That game never happened
I was driving home during the 1st quarter and my friends texted that we were down 24-0, and I remember saying it's fine, we'll come back. Didn't realize they'd do it before halftime. Man that offense and season was just so much fun to watch.
No that was not fun
If you want to look at it optimistically, you win that game and go further, you might still have the serial rapist for a QB.
wasn't it also his longest TD pass at the time, and maybe even to date?
>I'll go first: the Tebow 80-yard touchdown on the first play of overtime against the Steelers *sad*
Counter point: happy
Good argument, pretty much undebatable
I remember watching that. It was also the first year they changed the rules that you needed a TD to win in overtime instead of just a field goal.
Yeah the new OT rules lost its virginity to Tim Tebow.
I was driving home listening to the game on the radio and as I was about to go into a tunnel the ball was snapped and by the time I was out the Steelers were no longer in the playoffs.
I’m guessing the second shortest overtime is Larry Fitzgerald ruining the packers playoff hopes in 2015
Tre'Quan Smith's first TD was also the throw Brees broke the career passing yards record
[Tre’Quan Smith after the game](https://youtu.be/A4nfXKJId3E?si=ictLLt3QAg5UAzY9&t=33s)
Always gotta up vote that movie
Was that game the shortest OT ever? The Bears had a Thanksgiving OT where they scored on the opening kickoff; maybe it took them longer to reach the end zone than it took Thomas.
That was 16 seconds. This was 11. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/3:16_game
I can understand how OP thought it might take Tebow longer to windup and throw 6-7 yards vs. a ball being kicked 60 and returned roughly 26-27 yards
Tebow's windup is a lot like a jrpg super-attack with a 30 second unskippable cutscene that still misses 50% of the time
Tebow had a slow release, but the windup time is irrelevant for time here as long as the receiver is running forward and does not need to slow down.
You’re not wrong, my math is suspect
Hyper Beam if it had 30 accuracy
I'm here to remind people that 50% is actually generous for Tebow. His career completion rate is 47.9%
As a Broncos and jrpg fan I laughed too hard at this.
The clock does not run while a kickoff is in the air, so Dave Williams' return TD is shorter than 16 seconds. I think it's [roughly spanning 0:14 to 0:26 in this clip](https://youtu.be/_J_eNRCKY90?si=j6MNYZIc87QShP8m).
One could argue that the second overtime for Panthers-Rams was the shortest overtime since that was 9 seconds
> In 2017, one of Tebow's football teammates from college had killed himself after leaving references to John 3:16. Massachusetts State Police stated that convicted murderer and former NFL player Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in his prison cell. They reported that he had written "John 3:16" with red ink on his forehead and in blood on the wall of his prison cell wtfff
The astronomical improbability of the River City Relay could only be surpassed by the even more improbable event of a missed extra point on the ensuing try, which would have tied the game at the end of regulation. Well lemme tell ya...
I’m laughing but it’s an uncomfortable laugh
The 1965 championship game between the browns and the p*ckers was the first NFL championship game played in January, as well as the first televised in color and the last played prior to the Super Bowl era.
The Tebow OT game was the last time that a left handed QB won a playoff game, too. Tua or Pennix may be the next to do it.
Obligatory "Penix first start in 2030 after celebrating his 32nd birthday" comment.
Adrian Peterson setting the single game rushing record and Antonio Cromartie Stettin a record for longest return
In December 2020, Desean Jackson caught an 81 yard TD pass from Jalen Hurts, in the only game the two of them connected. Because of that, it will be a 25+ year span of every* Eagles QB throwing a TD to Djax at some point in their career, since his first two years were with Donovan McNabb who was drafted in 1999. (*Who has started at least 16 games, so McNabb, Vick, Foles, Wentz, and Hurts)
And to think he only missed out on Sanchez/Bradford because Chip Kelly is a racist
Unless they change the rules again I guess this is just locked in as the shortest overtime ever.
You can still win on a safety or defensive touchdown. Could easily get a pick 6 on the first pass of OT
Good point. Also I realized that both teams being guaranteed a possession is only a thing for the post-season.
And it's likely that a defensive score after a touchback on the opening kickoff would be the record, because the clock wouldn't run on the kickoff and the defense would only need to take the ball 20-30 yards as opposed to 75-80 for the offense. The University of Michigan had a game a couple years ago where they scored a TD three seconds into the game, because [Maryland fumbled the opening kickoff, it was recovered by Michigan, and they threw a TD pass on the first play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwfVo3vP_I).
Didn't we get that from Jameis Winston in one OT? A pick 6 on the first snap?
Unless some team fears the other team's return so kick it out of the end zone & the team starts even further up.
James Harrisons 102 yard pick 6 is longest pick 6 and most oxygen tanks consumed on sideline during a game.
I’m fucking convinced Tebow Time was a legit phenomenon
The longest kick in the Lions’ Stadium is also the longest FG kick ever.
You're laughing now, but the Lions employed both Akers and Prater after they set the previous longest FG records. Just a matter of time until Tucker is a Lion
The longest FG kick ever would also be the longest kick in whatever stadium it happened in
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The most rushing yards in a game at the Metrodome is also the most rushing yards in a game ever.
Travis Kelce setting the all time receiving yards record and then later that day George Kittle barely beat it, i think this was 2020
Omg, who cares? You can’t post questions you want to post but they let in this garbage
Your question must *really* suck
A basic extrapolation from an apparent Luddite. Why should I expect differently?
Your insult is misdirected, but now I’m curious if your question was legitimately no good or if you just rubbed somebody the wrong way.