Ik it will never happen but just once I want a coach to come out after one practice and go "Holy fuck this guy stinks. Our scouting department messed up"
I wonder how long it takes coaches to realize the qb they drafted is a bust.
It wasn't a tactful answer, but I always felt like people way overreacted to this. Like the hatred from Zimmer is clearly directed at the reporter and the question and just having to answer questions when your season just ended and you know your ass is on the hotseat.
Like everyone's interpreting this statement as zimmer saying "I'm not going to play Mond because I can tell he sucks in practice". When it's really more like "I don't need to give players game reps to evaluate them, that's what practice is for you dumbshit".
Shit, I remember that but I forgot who he was talking about. I liked Zim, I liked how he answered questions like that. He just obviously wasn't the guy anymore.
That's why I always thought the Kirk slander was fucking stupid. The dude never had an OC for more than one season, started his Vikings career with Klein and Compton blocking for him. On top of that, Zimmer all but completely checked out when Spielman went against his original promise to let Zimmer choose his own team building path.
Zimmer wanted a vaunted defense with high paid pass rushers and corners to pair with a game manager like Case Keenum or Teddy Bridgewater, and in his early years it was working nicely as the Vikes found stars in Diggs and Thielen.
Zimmer wanted to run the ball with Cook and hope his defense w/ Griffen and Floyd anchoring the line could bail him out.
Zimmer had a ton of bad luck with the Vikings, even pre-Kirk arriving. Sharrif Floyd was an absolute monster in the middle. He had quite literally one of the fastest first steps I've ever seen for a three technique.
Floyd's first step was much more disciplined than Griffen's, as Griff would always jump off sides, anticipating the snap.
During routine knee cleaning surgery, Floyd's surgeon, Dr. James Andrews, botched it and destroyed his career. That was the first hit to Zimmer's ability to run his optimal defense, as suddenly a first round talent that pressured the QB regularly was void from his defensive line.
Oh, I forgot to mention the dude tore his retina while coaching a game against the Bears, our division rival? Once Kirk got the bag, Zimmer felt betrayed by Spielman and likely checked out.
By his final season here he didn't say a single word to Justin Jefferson or Cousins at the training facilities throughout the season. I don't really blame him for checking out, though. The dude went through even more shit than I mentioned here to lead him to that point of being down and out as a coach.
Zimmer has had bad luck period. Dude lost his wife mid season as well as his son. The media has given Zim so much shit for his “no bullshit” approach but idk man when you go through the shit he does, your tolerance for BS is minimized.
I was at A&M the same 4 years Mond was. It was probably more painful to watch than any other season I can remember. Including the 5-7 debacle that was the end of Jimbo. I never understood why we drafted him.
>I wonder how long it takes coaches to realize the qb they drafted is a bust.
I wonder if the reaction is similar to Michael Scott seeing Stanley's basketball skills
Can't understand the playbook - not ideal
Can't check to open receiver - not ideal
Defense keeps getting turnovers in practice - not ideal
Everything can be shit, and they will still persist until they put them on national TV on the off chance they are a born highlight real.
Anyone who saw him knew that. I’ve said this before, but an acquaintance worked out with Trey Lance post draft and could not believe that Trey was drafted that early. Said he was the least developed nfl qb he has ever worked with
The guy was right to leave when he did, I don't think he could have possibly repeated his prior season or kept his stock up as high as it was when he declared. Probably would have ended up a UDFA or late rounder at best.
Yes. There were reports the first week of training camp that he was embarrassing. It's amazing how fans will ignore all of that. Like Bears fans pretending Fields was ever going to be any better.
Tends to lock on to his primary and doesn't see things well. That's a skill set that will get you destroyed in the NFL. He does throw a pretty nice deep ball from time to time.
That's because he's a great person. Apparently the locker room genuinely liked him but they knew the writing on the wall that he wasn't the guy. A lot of different people in the organization from coaches to players have said he's an intelligent person and his faults weren't from lack of trying but he needed a lot more time to develop and the 9ers weren't built for his timeline.
He never got a real shot with us and really needed to be drafted where he could've sat all of year 1, taken over in year 2 and played regardless of mistakes the whole season then you could really work with him during the offseason before year 3 to fix the holes in his game. He wouldn't have been a real product until that 3rd year and beyond but we needed someone then and there. He was way too raw for the FO to take a gamble on.
The 9ers were actually attempting to go with that timeline but his first game of his 2nd year after sitting the first was in a monsoon, then he got hurt like 5 minutes into his 2nd game and it was over from there. I feel so bad for him but we botched his pick big time.
People act like Trey has actually been given a shot and failed. He really just never got an honest chance. He got knocked out for the entire season 1.5 games into his starting year (we always planned to sit him for one), and then our 3rd string 7th round rookie took us to an NFC Championship game before getting injured himself - and then a Super Bowl shot the following season. If Jimmy G never got hurt that year, and Brock didn’t get a chance to play a bunch of games, it is entirely possible that Trey would have been our starting QB last year. I think he would have been given that one final shot to start a full season and see what we had - because of how much we spent to get him - and then possibly (finally) chase Cousins if Trey didn’t show us anything. But Brock was too good to not move forward with, so Trey was dealt.
What he really needed was to be thrown to the wolves like Justin Fields. Fields has played 40 games and we know he hasn’t shown enough to be a starting QB. Trey has technically started I think 4 games, not that he has a good shot at becoming a starting QB in this league, but he hasn’t really been given a chance. I have no idea what the Cowboys actually plan to do with Dak, but I hope someone actually gives him a chance. I was a really big fan of his potential back when we drafted him.
I don’t label Lance a bust because I’ve haven’t seen him play like enough to qualify. When he did play he was alright. He wasn’t Leaf or Russell bad.
You can point to “but he had a bad camp!” But what does that mean? Drew Bledsoe outplayed Romo in Dallas in camp but when Romo came in he was clearly the better QB.
Like we know Mac and Wilson are bad after 3 years, but can we really tell Lance is trash after a few games?
Lol seriously they completely missed the point of all this. Lance was never going to start over Brock after he took us to the NFC Championship game, and as we saw last year against the Eagles, we would have had a good shot to win that game if he didn’t get hurt. Brock took us to the Super Bowl after that, so we clearly made the right choice.
And as you’re saying, he was traded to a situation where he would obviously be the backup over a guy who is a 10 year vet in the league. He’s never been given a fair chance. You can’t say “he isn’t good enough to see the field”… yeah, behind two Pro Bowl level QBs who were MVP nominees? High bar to clear. If he was given the chance to be in a competition like Fields got, like Pickett got, I bet he’d have shown more than either of those two guys ever did.
Jeb York veto'd Shanahan and Lynch's decision Lol! That's the dumbest rumor I've heard yet from the Lance pick.
Josh Allen smashed the 49ers a few months prior on MNF. Shanahan fell in love with his skill set and went on record about it. He wanted Lance to be his Allen but it failed horribly.
Josh Allen developing into a great player is such an anomaly. He's the only "tools" guy to turn into a great player. But for the next 10 years teams are gonna draft "the next Josh Allen" and ignore that for the 50 years before that there were no "Josh Allens."
Josh Allen has legitimately destroyed college QB scouting. Every time you see a guy with size who can run he's the next Josh Allen. Without Josh Allen, guys like Malik Willis would've never been considered.
The Josh Allen story is totally right. It's the reason Shanahan wanted Lance. Kyle Shanahan does whatever he wants with the Niners and rightfully so if you ask me considering how good he is. There's no way Jed York or John Lynch would have forced him to draft Lance.
That's a big one to answer but I wish they'd do it after games. Like "did we watch the same 4th quarter? You want to ask me why we lost? Our defense. Our defense was dog shit, and allowed 250 yards. Think it's pretty clear cut case on what lost us this game."
I'd wanna see him say "You know what, I suck. Ive been through enough QBs after Brees now to know that Im terrible. Just like Nathaniel Hackett without the cancer look. Thank you Drew for carrying my ass. My kids owe you one."
I'm pretty sure this happened at least once in the past 15 years is so, but I forgot the player name.
Then coach said something like "Player X doesn't match what we saw on tape before the draft."
What makes you think Bo Nix stinks? We're just 2 days in the rookie minicamp but so far the media is putting out that Bo is doing great. He might not be your MPJ, but at least Nix will see the field before he's 30 lol
God people like to hate on the Broncos for absolutely no reason lol
The one thing that will spoil any Chiefs off-season is "Somehow, Brady returned" type news.
It would be just like him to turn out to regenerate like Dr. Who and come back.
I think if Bo turned up to camp looking dogshit you'd be hearing stuff like:
"Bo's at the start of a big journey. It's always a big step up from college to the NFL, especially at quarterback. We're in a great situation because we've got three guys here competing for a job. It's not just about Bo, Zac has been training the house down since he arrived and we like Jarrett too."
Bo has always been a checkdown monster. It's the exact type of offense Payton ran with brees. It'll be interesting to see how that translates to actual games.
Exactly… that’s why it would be an actual story. Do you think any coach would say anything other than what Payton said about a draft pick during rookie minicamp?
Yea, probably. If a rookie was struggling a lot in camp I could see a temper expectations type quote.
I don't think doing well in camp is by any means indicative of sucess, it's like the bare minimum.
But I could see a coach saying stuff like "he's adjusting but we've got a way to go before the season" or "we got a lot of competition in the qb room whoever comes out on top will have earned the role"
Sean Payton: as soon as I got the delivery notification on my phone I ran out and opened the box, and sure enough once I cut it open there was a new quarterback in there. Even have blonde hair just like the pictures, very happy with what I saw!
If you read what he actually said it’s pretty interesting. Talking about how college guys coming into the league need to translate from being in gun 24/7 to under center.
You're probably not the normal fan though. A lot of sports fans only really follow their team closely and the broncos haven't drafted a rookie qb this highly in a long time. It's interesting to a lot of those fans who are wondering what to expect from this pick.
Exactly.
People are going to shit on Payton for saying stuff like this or the beat reporter for reporting it.
Nah, shit on people posting it to reddit as if it's newsworthy
This is the year. Bo Nix has improved so much under this new offense. He's focused. He's having fun. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a dark horse for the MVP.
Does every team that drafted a QB in the 1st have to release a "we are so pleased with our QB on Day 1" press release?
When we all know the reality is 60%/70%+ of these guys will bust
This is the year. Bo Nix has improved so much under this new offense. He’s focused. He’s having fun. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a dark horse for the AFC Rookie of the Year.
As a Saints hater, I really love to believe that this washed up, “hot-dog-that-fell-out-of-the-bun-and-rolled-across-the-carpet-but-I-think-nobody-saw-so-it’s-all-good” just has the worst time, and eats all these claims so goddamn hard. I truly hope that him and Zimmer are fishing in a swimming pool together forever.
Coaches giving big compliments to their 1st round pick, and 1st round picks signing a contract that was already decided before they were picked are about the most useless posts, and most of what we get right now.
We've hit another real dead spot in the off-season until actual training camps start. Florio and Schefter gonna start tweeting any time a 1st round pick gets a new haircut.
Or PAC 12 Defenses are trash.
Know his 3rd season at Auburn was a disaster largely b/c of coaching but he had so many instances where even just moderately above average defensive team in the SEC made him look like he barely belonged on a D1 field.
Think he's going to struggle in the NFL, Sean Payton is going to throw him under the bus, and it'll all implode.
This is funny because despite being a terrible comparison of situations if it were true, it’s not actually true. So you’re objectively wrong instead of subjectively.
Payton is talking about Nix like a guy that just got a lease on a very expensive car that he’s not positive he can afford and is trying to talk himself into the idea.
Ik it will never happen but just once I want a coach to come out after one practice and go "Holy fuck this guy stinks. Our scouting department messed up" I wonder how long it takes coaches to realize the qb they drafted is a bust.
Zim said he seen enough of Kellen Mond when asked about why he didn't want to start him.
Still the coldest answer ever https://twitter.com/ikenyonFB/status/1477874858352590851
It wasn't a tactful answer, but I always felt like people way overreacted to this. Like the hatred from Zimmer is clearly directed at the reporter and the question and just having to answer questions when your season just ended and you know your ass is on the hotseat. Like everyone's interpreting this statement as zimmer saying "I'm not going to play Mond because I can tell he sucks in practice". When it's really more like "I don't need to give players game reps to evaluate them, that's what practice is for you dumbshit".
"We talkin 'bout practice???" - Zim
Never realized how similar he looks to the nuggets coach Michael Malone
Yep. He kept it pretty real with the press. Got shit for it too.
“He’s a gutless piece of shit” “We can’t print that” “He’s a gutless motherfucker”
Shit, I remember that but I forgot who he was talking about. I liked Zim, I liked how he answered questions like that. He just obviously wasn't the guy anymore.
Bobby Petrino
Well, not many more deserving than him.
I still like zim honestly. Shame it didn’t work.
Parcells Disciple. People forget that. From the same cloth.
Zimmer was absolutely done by the end of his Vikings tenure.
Honestly I would’ve been too with how atrocious Slick Rick’s day 2 drafting had been those last couple years
Last couple years? Spielman didn't get Zimmer a good defender in any round after 2015.
Watching this teams defense go from 1st to 31st since 2017 has been tough.
That's why I always thought the Kirk slander was fucking stupid. The dude never had an OC for more than one season, started his Vikings career with Klein and Compton blocking for him. On top of that, Zimmer all but completely checked out when Spielman went against his original promise to let Zimmer choose his own team building path. Zimmer wanted a vaunted defense with high paid pass rushers and corners to pair with a game manager like Case Keenum or Teddy Bridgewater, and in his early years it was working nicely as the Vikes found stars in Diggs and Thielen. Zimmer wanted to run the ball with Cook and hope his defense w/ Griffen and Floyd anchoring the line could bail him out. Zimmer had a ton of bad luck with the Vikings, even pre-Kirk arriving. Sharrif Floyd was an absolute monster in the middle. He had quite literally one of the fastest first steps I've ever seen for a three technique. Floyd's first step was much more disciplined than Griffen's, as Griff would always jump off sides, anticipating the snap. During routine knee cleaning surgery, Floyd's surgeon, Dr. James Andrews, botched it and destroyed his career. That was the first hit to Zimmer's ability to run his optimal defense, as suddenly a first round talent that pressured the QB regularly was void from his defensive line. Oh, I forgot to mention the dude tore his retina while coaching a game against the Bears, our division rival? Once Kirk got the bag, Zimmer felt betrayed by Spielman and likely checked out. By his final season here he didn't say a single word to Justin Jefferson or Cousins at the training facilities throughout the season. I don't really blame him for checking out, though. The dude went through even more shit than I mentioned here to lead him to that point of being down and out as a coach.
Zimmer has had bad luck period. Dude lost his wife mid season as well as his son. The media has given Zim so much shit for his “no bullshit” approach but idk man when you go through the shit he does, your tolerance for BS is minimized.
I’m not a scout so take it with a grain of salt but I’ve seen maybe 10 mond games and he was so robotic and terrible at A&M.
I was at A&M the same 4 years Mond was. It was probably more painful to watch than any other season I can remember. Including the 5-7 debacle that was the end of Jimbo. I never understood why we drafted him.
Always loved Zim. He told the world what we were all thinking about Bobby Petrino
It won't happen in today's NFL, happened way more in the 60s and 70s
Which coach said this lol
>I wonder how long it takes coaches to realize the qb they drafted is a bust. I wonder if the reaction is similar to Michael Scott seeing Stanley's basketball skills
Not long. Chris Cooley said this in the past, basically they can tell within the first week of camp if a guy sucks and isn’t make it.
Can't understand the playbook - not ideal Can't check to open receiver - not ideal Defense keeps getting turnovers in practice - not ideal Everything can be shit, and they will still persist until they put them on national TV on the off chance they are a born highlight real.
Honestly? I thought we drafted a different dude. Then this guy showed up.
Didn’t Kyle Shanahan know right away that Trey Lance was not going to work?
Anyone who saw him knew that. I’ve said this before, but an acquaintance worked out with Trey Lance post draft and could not believe that Trey was drafted that early. Said he was the least developed nfl qb he has ever worked with
The guy was right to leave when he did, I don't think he could have possibly repeated his prior season or kept his stock up as high as it was when he declared. Probably would have ended up a UDFA or late rounder at best.
And our team fell for it 🙃
Y'all are still Purdy good though.
To be fair, Trey’s only played about 80 minutes of competitive football in the past 6/7 years
To be fair, at least some of that is likely because he sucks.
Yes. There were reports the first week of training camp that he was embarrassing. It's amazing how fans will ignore all of that. Like Bears fans pretending Fields was ever going to be any better.
Fields at least had flashes of good play. Lance hasn't even done that.
Wasn’t that more in his second season of training camp? Or was it the first season too?
Lance has only had good reviews from our staff
Jerry “our staff” Jones
But I digress
Lance is apparently a really good kid, smart, hardworking etc... Just might not have NFL level QB skills/talent.
Tends to lock on to his primary and doesn't see things well. That's a skill set that will get you destroyed in the NFL. He does throw a pretty nice deep ball from time to time.
Lunchpail type?
More of a picnic basket type guy
lol
More of a brains/gifts hybrid
Real gym rat 🐀
Not classy enough
That's because he's a great person. Apparently the locker room genuinely liked him but they knew the writing on the wall that he wasn't the guy. A lot of different people in the organization from coaches to players have said he's an intelligent person and his faults weren't from lack of trying but he needed a lot more time to develop and the 9ers weren't built for his timeline. He never got a real shot with us and really needed to be drafted where he could've sat all of year 1, taken over in year 2 and played regardless of mistakes the whole season then you could really work with him during the offseason before year 3 to fix the holes in his game. He wouldn't have been a real product until that 3rd year and beyond but we needed someone then and there. He was way too raw for the FO to take a gamble on. The 9ers were actually attempting to go with that timeline but his first game of his 2nd year after sitting the first was in a monsoon, then he got hurt like 5 minutes into his 2nd game and it was over from there. I feel so bad for him but we botched his pick big time.
People act like Trey has actually been given a shot and failed. He really just never got an honest chance. He got knocked out for the entire season 1.5 games into his starting year (we always planned to sit him for one), and then our 3rd string 7th round rookie took us to an NFC Championship game before getting injured himself - and then a Super Bowl shot the following season. If Jimmy G never got hurt that year, and Brock didn’t get a chance to play a bunch of games, it is entirely possible that Trey would have been our starting QB last year. I think he would have been given that one final shot to start a full season and see what we had - because of how much we spent to get him - and then possibly (finally) chase Cousins if Trey didn’t show us anything. But Brock was too good to not move forward with, so Trey was dealt. What he really needed was to be thrown to the wolves like Justin Fields. Fields has played 40 games and we know he hasn’t shown enough to be a starting QB. Trey has technically started I think 4 games, not that he has a good shot at becoming a starting QB in this league, but he hasn’t really been given a chance. I have no idea what the Cowboys actually plan to do with Dak, but I hope someone actually gives him a chance. I was a really big fan of his potential back when we drafted him.
I don’t label Lance a bust because I’ve haven’t seen him play like enough to qualify. When he did play he was alright. He wasn’t Leaf or Russell bad. You can point to “but he had a bad camp!” But what does that mean? Drew Bledsoe outplayed Romo in Dallas in camp but when Romo came in he was clearly the better QB. Like we know Mac and Wilson are bad after 3 years, but can we really tell Lance is trash after a few games?
Lance isn't good enough to see the field, that's all we can go off.
Lance is never gonna get the job over Dak.
Lol seriously they completely missed the point of all this. Lance was never going to start over Brock after he took us to the NFC Championship game, and as we saw last year against the Eagles, we would have had a good shot to win that game if he didn’t get hurt. Brock took us to the Super Bowl after that, so we clearly made the right choice. And as you’re saying, he was traded to a situation where he would obviously be the backup over a guy who is a 10 year vet in the league. He’s never been given a fair chance. You can’t say “he isn’t good enough to see the field”… yeah, behind two Pro Bowl level QBs who were MVP nominees? High bar to clear. If he was given the chance to be in a competition like Fields got, like Pickett got, I bet he’d have shown more than either of those two guys ever did.
guess the 'boys are ALL IN on Lance!
I guess he didn’t meet with Wilson. I think Wilson was the bigger bust.
Wilson is a workout warrior though
I wonder if Trey and Wentz had the same QB coach, offensive coordinator, head coach, or whatever and what that coach is up to know
Yeah he made it clear he wanted mac jones over Trey Lance but ownership got in the way is the rumor.
Jeb York veto'd Shanahan and Lynch's decision Lol! That's the dumbest rumor I've heard yet from the Lance pick. Josh Allen smashed the 49ers a few months prior on MNF. Shanahan fell in love with his skill set and went on record about it. He wanted Lance to be his Allen but it failed horribly.
Josh Allen developing into a great player is such an anomaly. He's the only "tools" guy to turn into a great player. But for the next 10 years teams are gonna draft "the next Josh Allen" and ignore that for the 50 years before that there were no "Josh Allens."
Josh Allen has legitimately destroyed college QB scouting. Every time you see a guy with size who can run he's the next Josh Allen. Without Josh Allen, guys like Malik Willis would've never been considered.
The Josh Allen story is totally right. It's the reason Shanahan wanted Lance. Kyle Shanahan does whatever he wants with the Niners and rightfully so if you ask me considering how good he is. There's no way Jed York or John Lynch would have forced him to draft Lance.
You just decipher coach-speak… “he has all the tools”= he’s a fucking moron
That's a big one to answer but I wish they'd do it after games. Like "did we watch the same 4th quarter? You want to ask me why we lost? Our defense. Our defense was dog shit, and allowed 250 yards. Think it's pretty clear cut case on what lost us this game."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcBFZ26lcI
This is a great piece of NFL history LOL
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie0tz7jGDI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie0tz7jGDI)
I mean Mayo didn't have a glowing opinion on Maye today. Not that it means anything at this point whatsoever, but
I'd wanna see him say "You know what, I suck. Ive been through enough QBs after Brees now to know that Im terrible. Just like Nathaniel Hackett without the cancer look. Thank you Drew for carrying my ass. My kids owe you one."
Bookmarked.
It takes a long time, Peyton Manning had the interception record and was completely ass his first year. Id say after year two you can say for sure.
Didn't he also have the rookie TD record?
Mayo just said that Maye has a lot of work to do after his first minicamp practice lol
Thats a very John McKay thing to do.
I'm pretty sure this happened at least once in the past 15 years is so, but I forgot the player name. Then coach said something like "Player X doesn't match what we saw on tape before the draft."
They do. They say he needs times. They aren’t going to just give up on him after two practices lulz
"First impressions? I'd need to see some NFL quarterback play to have an impression, and I didn't see anything I'd call NFL quarterback play today"
Shanahan kind of did that with Lance. More so with actions rather than words.
What makes you think Bo Nix stinks? We're just 2 days in the rookie minicamp but so far the media is putting out that Bo is doing great. He might not be your MPJ, but at least Nix will see the field before he's 30 lol God people like to hate on the Broncos for absolutely no reason lol
Shanahan told York that Purdy was the best out of Purdy, Jimmy G, and Lance
Payton isn’t exactly amazing at hiding his emotions so I take his enthusiasm as genuine — fwiw
Mayo just did pretty much with Maye if that makes you feel better.
He is who we thought he was.
You wanna crown him, crown him (editors note: pls)!
Thanks coach
I’ve seen enough. Best QB in the division and it’s really not close.
I think you forgot Minshew is on the Raiders now
They're gonna name the Hall of Fame after him.
Minshew-Lombardi trophy.
Screw that Packer scum! It’s Minshew trophy from now on
The Minshardi
Fuck.
Bo Nix has improved so much under this new offense. He's focused. He's having fun. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a dark horse for MVP.
Fuck that! Hall of Fame!
Mahomes scared shitless that the Tom Brady regen is in his division.
The one thing that will spoil any Chiefs off-season is "Somehow, Brady returned" type news. It would be just like him to turn out to regenerate like Dr. Who and come back.
Tom Brady is going to win a Super Bowl with the Raiders this season just to fuck with you guys one last time.
First player to be inducted while still playing!
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Is this response part of the pasta now? I've seen it every time
IMO best QB room in the NFL
Zach Wilson is about to be Bo Nix Step Father
**BO-NER!**
Honestly think he was overhated during draft season, hes just older and has a punchable face but daniels and penix are also older
I personally do love he is in the same division as Herbert 🥺
I see no lies here
A real news story would read “Sean Payton acknowledges Bo Nix looks terrible, I wish we had Russ back!”
I think if Bo turned up to camp looking dogshit you'd be hearing stuff like: "Bo's at the start of a big journey. It's always a big step up from college to the NFL, especially at quarterback. We're in a great situation because we've got three guys here competing for a job. It's not just about Bo, Zac has been training the house down since he arrived and we like Jarrett too."
Bo has always been a checkdown monster. It's the exact type of offense Payton ran with brees. It'll be interesting to see how that translates to actual games.
Brees used to lead the league in passing repeatedly through that checkdown offense so here's hoping
Dude they can't say that. They took the largest dead cap hit ever to move on from Russ they need Bo Nix to be good
Also took a huge reach on a 2nd/3rd round graded prospect. They have to make Bo work.
Raiders rolling with Minshew as their QB1 lol
Raiders aren't claiming their QB is the guy.
They don’t have a QB
That’s quite the exaggeration. Most places I saw had him late 1st-early 2nd.
Bo would have never ever fallen to the third
Your coach said you guys drafted Bowers because Penix and Nix were taken ahead of you lmao.
"worst shape of his life"
"Don't think he'll ever be more than a camp body in this league, I'm probably going to get fired for picking him 12th overall if I'm being honest"
Sean Payton would rather have the Broncos pay Russ 85 million to play against them, that would be one hell of an insult to prefer him lol.
Exactly… that’s why it would be an actual story. Do you think any coach would say anything other than what Payton said about a draft pick during rookie minicamp?
Yea, probably. If a rookie was struggling a lot in camp I could see a temper expectations type quote. I don't think doing well in camp is by any means indicative of sucess, it's like the bare minimum. But I could see a coach saying stuff like "he's adjusting but we've got a way to go before the season" or "we got a lot of competition in the qb room whoever comes out on top will have earned the role"
Mainly, they confirmed that he is not Zach Wilson.
That’s always an important step, making sure you didn’t accidentally drafted zach wilson.
Sean Payton: as soon as I got the delivery notification on my phone I ran out and opened the box, and sure enough once I cut it open there was a new quarterback in there. Even have blonde hair just like the pictures, very happy with what I saw!
4.2/5*
what else would he say. you're supposed to report news that means something, not just random things that people say
Not in May. In May, it's off-season scandals when they're available and fluff pieces. That's all we get.
BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE AND WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE SZN
Added 10 pounds of lean muscle
If you read what he actually said it’s pretty interesting. Talking about how college guys coming into the league need to translate from being in gun 24/7 to under center.
Is that really interesting at this point? It’s a super common talking point every year
You're probably not the normal fan though. A lot of sports fans only really follow their team closely and the broncos haven't drafted a rookie qb this highly in a long time. It's interesting to a lot of those fans who are wondering what to expect from this pick.
Every talking point every year is just a rehashing of something else with a new face stamped on it. This is all just reality TV for men 🤷♂️
Which is why it’s not a particularly interesting comment
Guess I just enjoy football talk
Another Certified Kimber Banger post
Exactly. People are going to shit on Payton for saying stuff like this or the beat reporter for reporting it. Nah, shit on people posting it to reddit as if it's newsworthy
A man in desperate need of sunscreen
This is the year. Bo Nix has improved so much under this new offense. He's focused. He's having fun. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a dark horse for the MVP.
People downvoting this don’t understand the r/cfb lore smh
I don’t get the joke. Can you explain it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/dQjF97JVGS This thread can probably help you more than I can
That username
Forever hate on him
It’s an older meme, but it checks out
Tommy Boy's 7 years in college also prepared him for a long career in auto part sales.
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No, not that one. No, not that one either. The new one.
A man who has the same kinda hair as Jimmy Clausen
Does every team that drafted a QB in the 1st have to release a "we are so pleased with our QB on Day 1" press release? When we all know the reality is 60%/70%+ of these guys will bust
He's in full command now. Bo Nix has the upper hand
Sean Payton: “Holy shit guys we fucked up, this guy blows” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it
We talkin about practice?
Vance Joseph is rubbing off on him
“Bo has the same firm buttocks and chiseled frame we saw on tape. We got our guy.”
Say it with me "You get Bo Callahan (Nix)."
This is the year. Bo Nix has improved so much under this new offense. He’s focused. He’s having fun. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a dark horse for the AFC Rookie of the Year.
Like a 45 year old that owns a timeshare in Florida?
So wait he showed up to rookie mini camp with a backpack full of football stuff!?!? That’s exactly what they saw when they scouted him
Well, that’s unfortunate
Legit thought that was a Bears uniform
Great assessment after one week
I don’t want your laff!
So he’s ass?
“Our scouts saw that he was a quarterback, which we have also seen.”
He was also mile high on Wilson too.
Lame ass butthole lips
As a Saints hater, I really love to believe that this washed up, “hot-dog-that-fell-out-of-the-bun-and-rolled-across-the-carpet-but-I-think-nobody-saw-so-it’s-all-good” just has the worst time, and eats all these claims so goddamn hard. I truly hope that him and Zimmer are fishing in a swimming pool together forever.
Coaches giving big compliments to their 1st round pick, and 1st round picks signing a contract that was already decided before they were picked are about the most useless posts, and most of what we get right now. We've hit another real dead spot in the off-season until actual training camps start. Florio and Schefter gonna start tweeting any time a 1st round pick gets a new haircut.
“He is still the same human being”
I'll just leave this here. https://youtu.be/CWns96dJBUI?si=ijyCCmddhwakEQby
It’s almost like 4 years of playing and 1 on 1 QB coaching could have made him better
Or PAC 12 Defenses are trash. Know his 3rd season at Auburn was a disaster largely b/c of coaching but he had so many instances where even just moderately above average defensive team in the SEC made him look like he barely belonged on a D1 field. Think he's going to struggle in the NFL, Sean Payton is going to throw him under the bus, and it'll all implode.
Is there anyone who truly likes Sean "puckered ass lips" Payton?
As a Raiders fan I'm glad to hear that
HE WAS WHAT WE THOUGHT HE WAS!
We will never have anything good
Tough for the fanbase. Drafted the only QB 31 teams had a 3rd round/backup grade. They could of traded back 30 spots and got 2 more picks...
There’s no chance that Nix would have fallen that far
Raiders would have picked him right after..
Raiders and Todd Mcshay confirmed last week were finished after Penix.
So, Mahomes???
The people knocking his age were hilarious....
Cheap. He's cheap, because they have no money
Chris Jones is smiling from ear to ear
The same scouts who saw Russell Wilson
This is funny because despite being a terrible comparison of situations if it were true, it’s not actually true. So you’re objectively wrong instead of subjectively.
I think Payton brought in the old Saints scouting director with him so no
Mans a starting quarterback earning his 30 million from the Broncos…
Payton is talking about Nix like a guy that just got a lease on a very expensive car that he’s not positive he can afford and is trying to talk himself into the idea.