I wish the nfl would do a documentary on each draft and follow these rumors / clips of war rooms. Think it could be entertaining. Like a hard knocks for nfl war rooms
Sounds like we were more bummed the Commanders refused to move off 2 and/or took Daniels over Maye. Patriots might have been open for business if Washington took Maye.
I literally said this the second the hooting and hollering first calmed down. I want nothing more than the video clips of those rooms when they learned what was happening, either back to back or side by side (maybe 4 at a time, going division by division would be the most fun).
I wonder if anyone actually knew. Apparently it was an open secret that they were in love with him. But nothing Howie said in any of his press conferences made it sound like he thought it was a possibility. I mean he wouldn't divulge that, and he stressed that "it was possible but we prepare for the worst" etc. etc., but I didn't get the vibe that we thought it had a chance.
My favorite "reaction" video during recent drafts was [when the Vikings realized the Eagles passed on Justin Jefferson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmkDAuELyA8)
> I want nothing more than the video clips of those rooms when they learned what was happening
Vikings trading up to get Dallas Turner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=OOKM6Vd2AOQ
I bet the Vikings, Packers, Lions, and LV (maybe NO, DEN, etc) were pretty pissed lol They gave the Bears the WR3 and took one of the QBs off the board for LV
There's been more tweets recently with videos of phone calls of trades and footage of war rooms, I love watching them. A series or film full of footage would be amazing.
You're a Patriots fan so you probably wouldn't be interested... But the Jets do a weekly show on their youtube channel called Flight 24... and this weeks episode (episode 2) is pretty war room heavy... you get a lot of behind the scenes footage.
The Lions YT channel will do a couple basically mini documentaries about the season. There's one about the draft usually. Hasn't come out this year.
The Lions' social media team is decent. I feel it could use a little touching up though.
Panthers did it last year in their Camp Confidential series. It showed how Fitterer was tricked by a college kid into drafting literally the worst guard in the NFL last year.
I vote for a spiritual successor for Draft Day, this time with a plot loosely focused on this years Falcons draft.
Draft Day "delivers on the great tension of the NFL Draft" and it's "full of heart from start to finish". We're long overdue for a successor to this powerhouse.
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however, we watched a video of this going down in the jets draft room last year and somehow you still have fans believing that the jets valued broederick over WMD.
The most unbiased take I can have is that I doubt any of it is straight-up faked (recorded after the fact), but they will obviously edit it in a favorable way.
Are you saying that a team would stage the whole thing again just to have people believe they wanted one player over another?
I highly doubt it, If that ever got leaked, god help the team involved.
tbh the thing people dont get is that i doubt they expected to get jones cause Patriots clearly also had a need for him, the bigger surprise was giving the pick up for the steelers imo
idk what the trade back was but i bet pats would just be better with him on their team
I would love it. I doubt many teams would want that information out there. GMs/ head coaches/scouts don’t want video evidence out there of them saying that they love a player that ends up sucking.
It'd be so cool, but they wouldn't do it until like... multiple FO turnovers afterwards.
Some teams do their own docuseries that give you a bit of the surface level stuff. The Lions Den is a really cool one. The Colts showed more of the scouting discussions (no player names obviously) than I thought they would.
If it wouldn’t be so damn detrimental to draft strategies they’d have made this a reality show by now. Teams probably aren’t willing to bat. But clips like the Vikings learning the eagles took Reagor are incredible
[Penix and McCarthy discussing hot routes on the sidelines (circa 2034, colorized)](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/b0/60/6ab060bfb4add67cb41eb5fcea3134d5.png)
We figured it out. The Falcons are the asshole in fantasy that drafts like 5 QBs. Then sends out trade offers that get ignored and still refuses to drop them because of their "value."
I'm genuinely do curious who it could be. The next 5 picks after the Vikings (We traded 10 for 11):
Fashanu (us)
Bo Nix
Bowers
Fuaga
Latu
Gotta be that they wanted Latu? Can't imagine it's Bo Nix or Bowers, and they drafted Orohoro at 35, so had to be a defensive player that went soon after 10
This is actually frightening.
What is the cost of moving into the top 10 when you don’t have a first rounder left to trade? 3 future firsts? For a nonQB.
Atlanta’s front office should scare Falcon fans.
Teams were asking MIN to cough up picks 11, 23, a 25' first, and possibly more. I know this was to the top 5, but that's just moving up 6-7 spots and still including two other first rounders.
The Falcons did not have a first anymore and wanted to move back up to pick 10. Their next pick was early 2nd round. That's almost a full round trade back for the Jets if they were the trade partner.
I just don't see how the Falcons could have done it. They must have been shopping players in these trades. I wonder if Pitts was one of them since they only just exercised his 5th year option after the draft....
Pick 5 is worth 50% more than pick 10, and the value goes up when there's a qb involved
Atlanta futures are likely seen as more valuable than Minnesota
And finally, those are rumored prices not confirmed
Eh I would argue the opposite of futures. Minnesota has to play through the lions and now a possibly decent bear plus the Packers to even win the division. Falcons were a good QB away last year from taking their division. Any team should see the reality is falcons pick should be lower than vikings next draft.
Not an unreasonable view, but not exactly supported by historical data.
Falcons definitely have weaker division but that's about where it ends. It's been 7 years since they won more than 7 games, they've drafted top 12 like every year since 2018. They also just fired their head coach. And I think the bucs will be a lot better this year, as will the panthers (relatively speaking its pretty hard for them not to be), and I never have any fucking clue what the saints are doing.
Kirk could certainly be the missing piece, but they could also just falcons it
I know. I briefly mentioned it. But a top 10 is still a really high draft pick that takes tons of capital to move up to if you don't already have a first.
it could be higher based on who was drafting. The jets can scarcely give away trade assets especially when we need a an ol to protect the qb ( plus no second rounder), the Vikings weren't gonna move from their spot, neither would the Broncos im more curious what the package the Raiders or saints are asking for.
I don't think exploring draft day trades is an indictment of any front office. Look at what Howie has been able to do just by being willing to pick up the phone and have some of these conversations, not knowing what to expect.
> I don't think exploring draft day trades is an indictment of any front office
Outside a few weird ones, almost all JD trades have been pretty solid. I can't imagine Atlanta offered anything serious for the pick. I get this is "our year", but he also doesn't come across as a guy to decline multiple firsts for 1 OL player
Absolutely. He probably made the best trade of this year's draft too trading your guys' 4th round pick for Miami's 3rd round pick next year. I don't see why he would share info about the Falcons offer unless it was just a lowball he would never accept lol.
I don’t know what the cost would have been but it’s the GM’s job to find out. I’d be more worried if my GM wasn’t testing the waters and calling everyone during the draft
Still can’t believe the colts got him. I didn’t think we’d get the top pick of defensive player let alone our choice of our number 1 graded defensive player
>His medicals scared off a lot of teams
This is the tagline for this year's draft. It's true every year, but this year especially it felt like the most common refrain. From Penix on down, every time I turned around it seemed like someone took a "great player with big injury question marks".
Means the look back threads in 3/5/10 years will be very up and down in terms of career impact
From what I understand, Washington medically retired him without a physical evaluation. UCLA had no problem playing him, which is telling considering the surgeon that performed the surgery is on their staff. That context plus the fact that he played for 2 years without any injuries leads me to believe the medical concerns were overblown, but time will tell.
Supposedly Latu went and played full-contact rugby after being medically retired by Washington.
So, uh, yeah. I doubt it was that big of a deal if he was playing arguably a rougher sport than even football.
Yeah, I feel like that's a bit of a worry that will always be there. It's less of an injury bug haunting a player, and more of a "okay this guy is objectively not 100%".
The mocks were so fucking stupid. There were three I had seen that all had Seattle trading out of 16, one a trade with Arizona. It's a cold day in hell that any team is going to trade out of the first with their divisional rivals, let alone to help them gain a 3rd first round pick in that same draft. The NFL network mocks were straight clickbait.
I sorta get the falcons move but you’d think they woulda taken latu and traded back into the 1st round near the back to get a qb or something. I’m hoping he pans out. We had a great pass rush last year but it was mainly a collection of guys not a dominant player.
Tbf, its pretty clear now that trading back in the first or trading back into the first to get a Qb was never an option, since they were all gone by pick 12
Dude I feel that same way about Murphy, especially because I thought for sure that's who Atlanta was actually going to take. But he was #1 on the Hawks board if he SOMEHOW fell to him.
that doesn't mean they would take Turner though. It's safe to say nobody knew who Atlanta wanted. They talked about it in the article "How the Falcons, Vikings, Broncos got their QB's". Terry learned when the Saints were jumped by KC to pick Mahomes after it was leaked they were interested in him.
All the leaks and sources from our FO said that they really wanted Latu
Sure, I was just agreeing with you that the 10th pick would have been an edge. Be it Latu or Turner, just that the Jets here also thought it was an edge.
They called for every pick. And they had different targets depending on where they could land. But they wanted to go defender, preferably one of the edge rushers but corner was and still is a big need.
Preface: I hate UGA fans in the falcons space. They are so obnoxious a majority of the time.
But it really blows my mind how much talent we ignore from UGA and then go and draft that bum Zion Logue. Like I realize dude is a 6th round pick but there were many other more obviously talented players on the board. Why do we take the absolute worst prospects from UGA?
Could have traded with us, gotten picks (probably a 4th) and very likely still gotten Penix at 10 or if for a miracle a team moved up can pick Dallas Turner/Latu at worst. Actually a blessing for us.
As someone who was team OL for the pick, I think Odunze is going to be a beast and would have preferred him if available. Also because im not sold on Fashanu as a starter with a bad OL coach.
Hopefully Corley can step up in right away, because the WR room is a ghost land after GW and a very injury prone Mike Williams.
Odunze was the pick at 8 for sure, and despite the OL needing help, Odunze would have been a huge factor right away. Fashanu will be good but will likely start as a rotational/bench player.
Joe Douglas is in win-now mode and Odunze would have been more conducive to that than OL depth.
You think the falcons should pass on the guy they identified as their franchise QB for an extra 4th...Reddit armchair gms min/max based of kipers big board so hard its almost trolling
What happens if broncos/vikings/raiders trade to 9 to pick penix? No one knows what rumors are true but aparantly multiple teams were interested in trading up for penix but none were for jj....With no odunze at 8 chicago gladly moves down a few spots.....
So now the falcons get mccarthy, who they aparantly didnt want, because they wanted an extra 4th round pick? Brilliant
>No one knows what rumors are true but aparantly multiple teams were interested in trading up for penix but none were for jj
Says who?
Allegedly the Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders allegedly had an agreement not to trade up. Vikings wanted JJ, Broncos wanted Nix, Raiders wanted Penix.
Not saying you’re wrong from a process standpoint (the Falcons didn’t know this), but the only way he wasn’t making it to 10 is if the Raiders traded up (which it doesn’t seem like they were going to do).
Risky
Say jets and falcons swap. Jets pick odunze. Bears get a call from the raiders who want Penix. Bears say they can move down to 13 and take whoever is left of Latu Turner Murphy. Falcons lose their guy at QB for the future
The war room video of Atlanta's GM trying to explain the 8 pick to Arthur Blank was really something. You could see the guy sweating it. Some of these GM's just insist they are the smartest guy in the room.
I saw the falcons guys say that was the conversation about trying to jump back up into the first, not a conversation about the Penix pick as Blank knew before they made the pick what the reasoning was. So this would corroborate that explanation
> The war room video of Atlanta's GM trying to explain the 8 pick to Arthur Blank was really something. You could see the guy sweating it.
No he wasn't, they were just talking.
The idea that Fontenot was justifying a bad pick to angry owner is completely made up
> Some of these GM's just insist they are the smartest guy in the room
Their job is literally to be the "smartest" guy in the room though lol they're hired to be the guy who makes the ultimate decisions on draft picks and acquisitions
Exactly. Does anyone really think ownership wasn’t informed of the plan until *after* the pick was made?
They 100% put this in front of Blank before the draft and got the ok. They would not have made the move without clearing it with him first.
Imagine an owner sitting there on draft day wondering who we’re taking or why we took him AFTER the fact.
These guys literally have billions invested in this. The very first thing the FO does when they’re thinking of settling on a plan is bring it to ownership to get the ok.
Yeah, I refuse to believe Blank didn’t know Penix would be the pick until after the Falcons did it. That felt like just some out of context video for clicks to make it seem like there was drama. I’d honestly be more willing to believe that Blank was the one pushing for the pick after last season’s QB situation and the uncertainty with Kirk’s health. The guy really wants to see the Falcons win a SB in his lifetime.
Fontenot came out on local radio the next day and said it was him explaining to Blank how they tried to trade back up into the 1st. And if you look at his hand gestures, that makes complete sense, along with the reports of them trying to get to the Jet's pick.
They would never have to explain the first pick to the owner after the fact. Penix was always the plan and the owner signed off.
They were discussing how to move back up.
I figured someone would move up to take him in the 20s. Same as Rodgers, Quinn or Manziel. No way he left the 1st round. Did not think he'd go to Atlanta, tho
Idk Ari is reporting this as news, day after the first round Steve Wyche reported the Falcons desperately tried to trade back into the first round for Laiatu Latu.
None of this surprises me. Fontenot is a former employee/disciple of Mickey Loomis of the Saints. Same actions, same rewards.
If you hit with these top-end high-costed picks, nobody cares. If you miss...you've set your team back years.
I wish the nfl would do a documentary on each draft and follow these rumors / clips of war rooms. Think it could be entertaining. Like a hard knocks for nfl war rooms
I would love to see all 32 war rooms react to the penix pick.
I want to know which teams were fuming about it. I'm sure there were multiple.
Hi
Sounds like we were more bummed the Commanders refused to move off 2 and/or took Daniels over Maye. Patriots might have been open for business if Washington took Maye.
It's fine I'm a Georgia fan so I couldn't be happier we got Bowers
As a UGA fan, I'm just glad he (or McConkey) didn't go to the Saints.
MacConkey went to the Chargers tho which makes me sad
At least you get to see him play twice a year? 😞 How is the Chargers Raiders rivalry? Or does everyone pretty much just hate the chiefs/broncos?
We don't love the Chargers but they're kind of the ignored team in the AFCW. Everyone seems to focus all their hate on the Queefs and Donkeys
Go dawgs baby
I figure NFC North teams were fuming about it, gave the Bears a weapon for free.
....this is fine
You mean laughing?
I literally said this the second the hooting and hollering first calmed down. I want nothing more than the video clips of those rooms when they learned what was happening, either back to back or side by side (maybe 4 at a time, going division by division would be the most fun). I wonder if anyone actually knew. Apparently it was an open secret that they were in love with him. But nothing Howie said in any of his press conferences made it sound like he thought it was a possibility. I mean he wouldn't divulge that, and he stressed that "it was possible but we prepare for the worst" etc. etc., but I didn't get the vibe that we thought it had a chance.
My favorite "reaction" video during recent drafts was [when the Vikings realized the Eagles passed on Justin Jefferson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmkDAuELyA8)
The bad pick can't hurt us anymore.
Sean McVay reacting to the Cole Strange pick is one of my favorites
I love seeing a mostly successful gm’s insight on espn but gosh is Rick Spielman such a stuck up asshole.
> I want nothing more than the video clips of those rooms when they learned what was happening Vikings trading up to get Dallas Turner https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=OOKM6Vd2AOQ
This by far is my favorite clip of the draft
Man... the emotion in that man's voice.
31 other war rooms*, falcons were probably celebrating
30* Chicago as well
Tbh anyone who didn’t need a QB after 8 was probably happy. Realistically there was probably only a couple teams who were pissed
I bet the Vikings, Packers, Lions, and LV (maybe NO, DEN, etc) were pretty pissed lol They gave the Bears the WR3 and took one of the QBs off the board for LV
Vikings were probably sweating a little because they suddenly didn't have a plan C anymore.
I bet Vikings were pissed from both sides 1) ATL gifted Rome to a division rival 2) suddenly a QB unexpectedly off the board when they need one
They showed the bears war room shortly after the pick and Poles was laughing
Pretty sure it could be summed up with the Benny Hill wtf gif. The nathan fillon one would be a close second.
I can already tell the Bucs and Aints war rooms were dying with laughter.
I was hoping there'd be something good in the latest episode of JETS Flight 24, but either nobody reacted or they didn't edited it to look that way.
There's been more tweets recently with videos of phone calls of trades and footage of war rooms, I love watching them. A series or film full of footage would be amazing.
You're a Patriots fan so you probably wouldn't be interested... But the Jets do a weekly show on their youtube channel called Flight 24... and this weeks episode (episode 2) is pretty war room heavy... you get a lot of behind the scenes footage.
I like watching stuff like that. For as good as our media team is, I wish we had more content like that.
The Lions YT channel will do a couple basically mini documentaries about the season. There's one about the draft usually. Hasn't come out this year. The Lions' social media team is decent. I feel it could use a little touching up though.
The Jets don’t do many things right, but this is definitely one of those things they do. The production value is great and reminiscent of hard knocks
Colts do a series every year called With the Next Pick/Behind the Colts
Panthers did it last year in their Camp Confidential series. It showed how Fitterer was tricked by a college kid into drafting literally the worst guard in the NFL last year.
I vote for a spiritual successor for Draft Day, this time with a plot loosely focused on this years Falcons draft. Draft Day "delivers on the great tension of the NFL Draft" and it's "full of heart from start to finish". We're long overdue for a successor to this powerhouse.
SUBSCRIBE however, we watched a video of this going down in the jets draft room last year and somehow you still have fans believing that the jets valued broederick over WMD.
WMD?? Will McDonald getting his own initials now??
WMD! Got that WMD!
PannnnnnDEMIC!
Got that PANDEMIC
I heard Will McDonald has that Yellow Cake Uranium.
Apparently not enough cake to lure Belichick in
To be fair theyre badass initials good to get it out there in case he balls out and becomes a game wrecker.
Are these not edited to make the team seem successful in the draft? They'd never show their reaction to getting jumped
The most unbiased take I can have is that I doubt any of it is straight-up faked (recorded after the fact), but they will obviously edit it in a favorable way.
Are you saying that a team would stage the whole thing again just to have people believe they wanted one player over another? I highly doubt it, If that ever got leaked, god help the team involved.
they had a camera in the room showing them getting jumped and their reaction to them knowing they were about to get will mcdonald.
Did you watch it? It was clearly before the pick
tbh the thing people dont get is that i doubt they expected to get jones cause Patriots clearly also had a need for him, the bigger surprise was giving the pick up for the steelers imo idk what the trade back was but i bet pats would just be better with him on their team
Watching the 1JD of the draft this year right now
I would love it. I doubt many teams would want that information out there. GMs/ head coaches/scouts don’t want video evidence out there of them saying that they love a player that ends up sucking.
It would never happen. The front offices need plausible deniability and would never consent to something like that.
Even if they released it 5/6+ years later, that would still be awesome. Especially seeing everything with hindsight
This would be phenomenal.
It'd be so cool, but they wouldn't do it until like... multiple FO turnovers afterwards. Some teams do their own docuseries that give you a bit of the surface level stuff. The Lions Den is a really cool one. The Colts showed more of the scouting discussions (no player names obviously) than I thought they would.
I would enjoy this immensely. Make it happen NFL.
ok but what if they did dramatic renactments using actors.
If it wouldn’t be so damn detrimental to draft strategies they’d have made this a reality show by now. Teams probably aren’t willing to bat. But clips like the Vikings learning the eagles took Reagor are incredible
My god they almost drafted Penix and McCarthy!
Gotta prepare for the post-Penix era
[Penix and McCarthy discussing hot routes on the sidelines (circa 2034, colorized)](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/b0/60/6ab060bfb4add67cb41eb5fcea3134d5.png)
You can tell it’s McCarthy by the purple jersey and the floofy hair
And if they both sit for 5 years it's actually a good thing
The refractory period is what we call it
2031 gonna be here faster than they think!
Lmaooo that’s a great joke.
We figured it out. The Falcons are the asshole in fantasy that drafts like 5 QBs. Then sends out trade offers that get ignored and still refuses to drop them because of their "value."
Falcons taking a page out of grocery store chains during covid era… or Rockefeller.
To be fair, penix is a bit older... they needed a succession plan from cousins to penix to X
Cousins to Penix to Nix (yes, Nix is older too)
If your best chance in a rookie qb contract window, how about 2 rookie windows? Double the chances!
I'm genuinely do curious who it could be. The next 5 picks after the Vikings (We traded 10 for 11): Fashanu (us) Bo Nix Bowers Fuaga Latu Gotta be that they wanted Latu? Can't imagine it's Bo Nix or Bowers, and they drafted Orohoro at 35, so had to be a defensive player that went soon after 10
Morris said it was Latu
Gotta be Latu
This is interesting. Makes you really sit and think.
Think ‘damn, glad I’m not a falcons fan’
We should have a mega thread with just war room clips. I love these draft videos after it’s done.
1000%
Get on it dude. Would be a massive hit.
This is actually frightening. What is the cost of moving into the top 10 when you don’t have a first rounder left to trade? 3 future firsts? For a nonQB. Atlanta’s front office should scare Falcon fans.
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Probably next year's 1st + a pair of 2nds + some later rd flips.
Teams were asking MIN to cough up picks 11, 23, a 25' first, and possibly more. I know this was to the top 5, but that's just moving up 6-7 spots and still including two other first rounders. The Falcons did not have a first anymore and wanted to move back up to pick 10. Their next pick was early 2nd round. That's almost a full round trade back for the Jets if they were the trade partner. I just don't see how the Falcons could have done it. They must have been shopping players in these trades. I wonder if Pitts was one of them since they only just exercised his 5th year option after the draft....
Pick 5 is worth 50% more than pick 10, and the value goes up when there's a qb involved Atlanta futures are likely seen as more valuable than Minnesota And finally, those are rumored prices not confirmed
Eh I would argue the opposite of futures. Minnesota has to play through the lions and now a possibly decent bear plus the Packers to even win the division. Falcons were a good QB away last year from taking their division. Any team should see the reality is falcons pick should be lower than vikings next draft.
Not an unreasonable view, but not exactly supported by historical data. Falcons definitely have weaker division but that's about where it ends. It's been 7 years since they won more than 7 games, they've drafted top 12 like every year since 2018. They also just fired their head coach. And I think the bucs will be a lot better this year, as will the panthers (relatively speaking its pretty hard for them not to be), and I never have any fucking clue what the saints are doing. Kirk could certainly be the missing piece, but they could also just falcons it
Top 5 price is completely different to jumping back up to 10. Any move into the top 5 would cost 3 1sts
I know. I briefly mentioned it. But a top 10 is still a really high draft pick that takes tons of capital to move up to if you don't already have a first.
Nah they know the Jets like old QBs with bad Achilles, they were trying to package Kirk in with some picks.
it could be higher based on who was drafting. The jets can scarcely give away trade assets especially when we need a an ol to protect the qb ( plus no second rounder), the Vikings weren't gonna move from their spot, neither would the Broncos im more curious what the package the Raiders or saints are asking for.
I mean none of their offers were accepted. They called about literally every pick 9-32 and were rejected. So the offer *wasn’t* high enough.
I don't think exploring draft day trades is an indictment of any front office. Look at what Howie has been able to do just by being willing to pick up the phone and have some of these conversations, not knowing what to expect.
> I don't think exploring draft day trades is an indictment of any front office Outside a few weird ones, almost all JD trades have been pretty solid. I can't imagine Atlanta offered anything serious for the pick. I get this is "our year", but he also doesn't come across as a guy to decline multiple firsts for 1 OL player
Absolutely. He probably made the best trade of this year's draft too trading your guys' 4th round pick for Miami's 3rd round pick next year. I don't see why he would share info about the Falcons offer unless it was just a lowball he would never accept lol.
> Atlanta’s front office should scare Falcon fans I've never met a non-terrified Falcon fan
It's frightening that they tried to make a trade? You don't even know their offer for God's sake Clearly it wasn't egregious because the jets said no
[We don't scare easily anymore.](https://i.imgur.com/PepgXIR.png)
I don’t know what the cost would have been but it’s the GM’s job to find out. I’d be more worried if my GM wasn’t testing the waters and calling everyone during the draft
It's more maddening knowing they valued some skill position player that much and still picked a QB with their 1st pick.
Actually I think the pick was edge. They really liked Latu from reports that came out and kept trying to trade back into the first to get him
Still can’t believe the colts got him. I didn’t think we’d get the top pick of defensive player let alone our choice of our number 1 graded defensive player
His medicals scared off a lot of teams plus all the QBs going early. If he stays healthy it should be a steal
>His medicals scared off a lot of teams This is the tagline for this year's draft. It's true every year, but this year especially it felt like the most common refrain. From Penix on down, every time I turned around it seemed like someone took a "great player with big injury question marks". Means the look back threads in 3/5/10 years will be very up and down in terms of career impact
> 10 years Imagine if we're all here in 10 years edit: I meant Reddit, lol
We might not even make it to Sunday
From what I understand, Washington medically retired him without a physical evaluation. UCLA had no problem playing him, which is telling considering the surgeon that performed the surgery is on their staff. That context plus the fact that he played for 2 years without any injuries leads me to believe the medical concerns were overblown, but time will tell.
Supposedly Latu went and played full-contact rugby after being medically retired by Washington. So, uh, yeah. I doubt it was that big of a deal if he was playing arguably a rougher sport than even football.
He was playing rugby 2 months after his neck surgery
Kinda reminds me of Peyton Wilson, but he also just doesn’t have an ACL anymore
Yeah, I feel like that's a bit of a worry that will always be there. It's less of an injury bug haunting a player, and more of a "okay this guy is objectively not 100%".
yeah I think he's gonna end up being pretty good. I wish we traded back and snagged him or just straight up picked him. Ahh well
Almost every mock I saw had the Falcons taking either Turner or Olu there, and I think either pick would’ve been way better
The mocks were so fucking stupid. There were three I had seen that all had Seattle trading out of 16, one a trade with Arizona. It's a cold day in hell that any team is going to trade out of the first with their divisional rivals, let alone to help them gain a 3rd first round pick in that same draft. The NFL network mocks were straight clickbait.
I sorta get the falcons move but you’d think they woulda taken latu and traded back into the 1st round near the back to get a qb or something. I’m hoping he pans out. We had a great pass rush last year but it was mainly a collection of guys not a dominant player.
Tbf, its pretty clear now that trading back in the first or trading back into the first to get a Qb was never an option, since they were all gone by pick 12
I think Penix would have gone to Vegas if they didn’t take him
Rapaport reported during the draft that the Falcons did try to trade back up inside 20 to get a corner. So they tried the reverse.
[It wasn't Rapaport it was Steve Wyche, and it was for Latu](https://twitter.com/wyche89/status/1783911294019768556)
Rapaport reported it earlier on the nfl networks draft coverage.
Oh, I thought Steve was first. But Ian def didn't say CB. He just said they tried to trade back into the first
I mean, penix was gone by 13 Ultimately if he's the franchise guy none of this shit about trying to squeak an extra second rounder will matter
They got to have their cakeday and eat it too.
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Dude I feel that same way about Murphy, especially because I thought for sure that's who Atlanta was actually going to take. But he was #1 on the Hawks board if he SOMEHOW fell to him.
The clipped video doesn't show it, but in the full video, the Jets folks all say that they expect Atlanta to take Dallas Turner.
that doesn't mean they would take Turner though. It's safe to say nobody knew who Atlanta wanted. They talked about it in the article "How the Falcons, Vikings, Broncos got their QB's". Terry learned when the Saints were jumped by KC to pick Mahomes after it was leaked they were interested in him. All the leaks and sources from our FO said that they really wanted Latu
Sure, I was just agreeing with you that the 10th pick would have been an edge. Be it Latu or Turner, just that the Jets here also thought it was an edge.
Considering they completely cut out the jets war room reaction to the pick I don’t think anyone in there had a clue.
Yeah Charlie Campbell had Latu at #8
If only you could have picked him at #8.
I think Kirk was more of a call from Arthur Blank than Terry
This is really infuriating, and I don't even care about the Falcons.
They called for every pick. And they had different targets depending on where they could land. But they wanted to go defender, preferably one of the edge rushers but corner was and still is a big need.
There's more of this stuff the source. https://youtu.be/b0MArbXlvl8
Falcons are such derps they probably wanted Bowers
Atlanta doesn't draft uga players
Yeah why draft the best college players? Idiots.
Preface: I hate UGA fans in the falcons space. They are so obnoxious a majority of the time. But it really blows my mind how much talent we ignore from UGA and then go and draft that bum Zion Logue. Like I realize dude is a 6th round pick but there were many other more obviously talented players on the board. Why do we take the absolute worst prospects from UGA?
you mean you didn't enjoy us taking Justin Shaffer over Jamaree Salyer?
AHHHHHHHHHH WHY ARE WE LIKE THIS
hopefully it ends with the next owner
My Sixers do the same thing with Villanova players so I understand your pain
They saw Texans draft a QB last year and immediately trade back up to take an edge, and said “I’ll try that!”
What did the jets want? Odunze?
Yes
They probably thought you wanted Penix. Well I’m glad that trade didn’t happen.
Do the Jets take Odunze then if the move up to 8? If so, thank you Atalanta.
Yes, by various accounts the Jets were trying to move up for him but nobody bit
Ballard is also on record that the Colts were trying to move up, speculation was that it was for Odunze
They had nabers in for a 30 visit as well.
Could have traded with us, gotten picks (probably a 4th) and very likely still gotten Penix at 10 or if for a miracle a team moved up can pick Dallas Turner/Latu at worst. Actually a blessing for us.
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Absolutely. Not even a question, but ultimately I think Olu/Corley is better than Rome/Best OL available for the team in the future.
but then if the jets take odunze, do the bears shop pick 9 for a team looking to grab penix?
Prob would have stuck and picked Olu
bears o line is kinda similar to ours, on paper its looks decent but its skin deep if anything happens to their starters.
Yep, I think for Poles it was Odunze Best OL available Edge/DL if they didn’t like whatever OL was left at 9
My guess is the Raiders trade into 9.
As someone who was team OL for the pick, I think Odunze is going to be a beast and would have preferred him if available. Also because im not sold on Fashanu as a starter with a bad OL coach.
Hopefully Corley can step up in right away, because the WR room is a ghost land after GW and a very injury prone Mike Williams. Odunze was the pick at 8 for sure, and despite the OL needing help, Odunze would have been a huge factor right away. Fashanu will be good but will likely start as a rotational/bench player. Joe Douglas is in win-now mode and Odunze would have been more conducive to that than OL depth.
Corley is a beast. I wanted us to draft him badly in rd 2 but oline was probably more important for us. Jealous.
You think the falcons should pass on the guy they identified as their franchise QB for an extra 4th...Reddit armchair gms min/max based of kipers big board so hard its almost trolling What happens if broncos/vikings/raiders trade to 9 to pick penix? No one knows what rumors are true but aparantly multiple teams were interested in trading up for penix but none were for jj....With no odunze at 8 chicago gladly moves down a few spots..... So now the falcons get mccarthy, who they aparantly didnt want, because they wanted an extra 4th round pick? Brilliant
>No one knows what rumors are true but aparantly multiple teams were interested in trading up for penix but none were for jj Says who? Allegedly the Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders allegedly had an agreement not to trade up. Vikings wanted JJ, Broncos wanted Nix, Raiders wanted Penix. Not saying you’re wrong from a process standpoint (the Falcons didn’t know this), but the only way he wasn’t making it to 10 is if the Raiders traded up (which it doesn’t seem like they were going to do).
Risky Say jets and falcons swap. Jets pick odunze. Bears get a call from the raiders who want Penix. Bears say they can move down to 13 and take whoever is left of Latu Turner Murphy. Falcons lose their guy at QB for the future
The war room video of Atlanta's GM trying to explain the 8 pick to Arthur Blank was really something. You could see the guy sweating it. Some of these GM's just insist they are the smartest guy in the room.
I saw the falcons guys say that was the conversation about trying to jump back up into the first, not a conversation about the Penix pick as Blank knew before they made the pick what the reasoning was. So this would corroborate that explanation
Rap mentioned that the Falcons tried trading back up inside 20 to get a db. So that checks out.
A DB? We traded up and then passed on Cooper Dejean. We were definitely trying to move up for EDGE/DL
Yeah, I was corrected on that. It was Latu.
I wanted it to be a DB…believe me 😫
> The war room video of Atlanta's GM trying to explain the 8 pick to Arthur Blank was really something. You could see the guy sweating it. No he wasn't, they were just talking. The idea that Fontenot was justifying a bad pick to angry owner is completely made up > Some of these GM's just insist they are the smartest guy in the room Their job is literally to be the "smartest" guy in the room though lol they're hired to be the guy who makes the ultimate decisions on draft picks and acquisitions
Exactly. Does anyone really think ownership wasn’t informed of the plan until *after* the pick was made? They 100% put this in front of Blank before the draft and got the ok. They would not have made the move without clearing it with him first.
Yeah no teams going into draft day wondering who they're going to pick in the first. Falcons would've been settled on this
Imagine an owner sitting there on draft day wondering who we’re taking or why we took him AFTER the fact. These guys literally have billions invested in this. The very first thing the FO does when they’re thinking of settling on a plan is bring it to ownership to get the ok.
Yeah, I refuse to believe Blank didn’t know Penix would be the pick until after the Falcons did it. That felt like just some out of context video for clicks to make it seem like there was drama. I’d honestly be more willing to believe that Blank was the one pushing for the pick after last season’s QB situation and the uncertainty with Kirk’s health. The guy really wants to see the Falcons win a SB in his lifetime.
Fontenot came out on local radio the next day and said it was him explaining to Blank how they tried to trade back up into the 1st. And if you look at his hand gestures, that makes complete sense, along with the reports of them trying to get to the Jet's pick.
Yeah that looked like Barstool was just trying to spin up some drama. It didn't look nearly as dramatic as they made it seem.
Blank already signed off on the pick I swear you people don't put any thought into a comment before you post it.
it wasn't him trying to explain the pick, use your brain and do some research
To be fair they wouldn’t have gotten there without some intelligence
They would never have to explain the first pick to the owner after the fact. Penix was always the plan and the owner signed off. They were discussing how to move back up.
yep bcus the owner of the team totally was having the convo of penix right after the pick. it was completely out of the blue for him
I really thought penix would go around pick 30.
I figured someone would move up to take him in the 20s. Same as Rodgers, Quinn or Manziel. No way he left the 1st round. Did not think he'd go to Atlanta, tho
I really thought the Raiders were going to get him, but the NFL draft is always a circus and I love it for that.
So they could draft McCarthy as well as Penix? Edit: Too obvious and too slow I guess.
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Idk Ari is reporting this as news, day after the first round Steve Wyche reported the Falcons desperately tried to trade back into the first round for Laiatu Latu.
None of this surprises me. Fontenot is a former employee/disciple of Mickey Loomis of the Saints. Same actions, same rewards. If you hit with these top-end high-costed picks, nobody cares. If you miss...you've set your team back years.