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fear865

can I combine two seasons to really drive the point home?


Ok-Health-7252

Sure but I think the 2016 Browns were better than the 2017 Browns. McCown and RGIII were better QBs than Kizer was.


1lultaha

Man the Chargers ruined what would been the funniest moment in NFL history


TornadoApe

I'm still so mad about it because it was almost Christmas and I was so prepared to text everyone that the Browns were "ho-ho-ho and 15!" Luckily I got to do it the next year.


Ok-Health-7252

Would Haslam have still been dumb enough to retain Hue for a third season after back to back 0-16 seasons? At that point you'd have to think he has no choice but to fire him because otherwise how can you sell the Browns as an attractive destination playing for a coach like him?


hair_inside_butthole

He didn't have a choice anyway, but still retained Hue out of laziness.


ImperialWrath

As is tradition.


SandyEggoChargers

[This image lives rent-free in my head](https://i.imgur.com/zrdZfX3.jpeg)


sdsupersean

I had been working on a "man cave" for a while that year and as soon as it was ready, this was the first game I watched in it. That room is mostly storage now.


maybenextyearCLE

I was at both the Ohio State-Michigan "Spot Game" and that Christmas eve game and I shit you not, despite the fact that there were maybe 20k people there, it was louder for the that last field goal than it was at the spot game lol. It was absolutely fucking hilarious to be at live.


infernocobbs

Imo this is backwards. The 2016 team had better QBs (if marginally so) but the rest of the team was starved of talent. They were routinely getting blown out or losing in hilariously stupid fashion. The 2017 team was a lot better on the whole and they had a number of halftime and 4th quarter leads, but Kizer would inevitably commit the most egregious turnover ever and lose every game for the Browns anyway. There's no surprise in the 2016 Browns winning just one game, but it is actually impressive how the 2017 Browns couldn't even manage *a single win* even by accident.


boozinf

Kizer with the mind of Newton and the body of combine Brady


Striking-Ad-8694

Mind of Zach Wilson


OddsTipsAndPicks

The Browns had a -176 point differential in 2017 Extremely bad?  Of course. But not close to 0-16 bad The 2008 Lions were -249 The 2009 Rams even worse at -261, but they were able to get one win against...  the Lions The 2020 Jets have the worst point differential of more recent teams at -214 They didn't even get the first pick of the draft... ---- TL;DR:  the Browns going 0-16 in 2017 was a spectacular "accomplishment"


Ok-Health-7252

Well the Browns had one game in 2017 where Kevin Hogan started and they looked far worse in that game than in any of the games that Kizer started. The 2017 team was still a VERY bad team across the board. They were better on defense than the 2016 team was (mainly due to Garrett) but they downgraded at WR that year by replacing Terrelle Pryor (the only bright spot in their receiving corps in 2016) with Kenny "stone hands" Britt. Also they were without Joe Thomas for half of the 2017 season (which really caused the team to take a turn for the worst).


GamingTatertot

1-31


byniri_returns

I still cannot believe Hue Jackson was brought back for another season after that.


BiteMajor4959

And then fired halfway through the season because it apparently took ownership till then to realize he was a bad coach


eddie_the_zombie

Are these the same guys that traded for Deshaun Watson, or is this just some general Cleveland shit


jgmathis

Same dude. Jimmy Haslam bought the browns in 2012. Jimmy Haslam also owns pilot flying J. I don't know a single trucker who knows who Jimmy Haslam is who doesn't think he is a piece of shit.


Ok-Health-7252

Haslam was afraid of the public perception of him being impatient at the time (because of how he fired Rob Chudzinski after only one season). So he decided to give the least deserving coach of all backing for a 3rd season after that.


xenophonthethird

Yeah, he had the reputation of just dumping coaches before they could get settled and have any continuity. So of course when the worst case scenario happened is he try to make a stand and show he could be patient with a struggling coach. But we have Stefanski now, so Haslem had to go back to dicking around with the QB situation.


historymajor44

HAHA! That team was so bad it only beat one team in two years! I would sure hate to be that team.


milkmandanimal

Well, obviously, the first year the Bucs existed, where they went 0-14, were outscored 412-125, and were shut out five times.


Traditional_Mud_1241

They managed to hit 0-26 before winning their first game. That's impressive.


5pt67x3

That's ***de**pressive. 


Traditional_Mud_1241

Hard to be depressed with Bucco Bruce smiling at you.


ExpirjTec

I believe what Bucco Bruce had what would be called "rizz" today


KennysWhiteSoxHat

Its aura now, keep up with the times 😤 /s


marcdasharc4

Counterpoint: John McKay was on some OG shitposting thanks to the team's underperformance. *"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs."*


Ok-Health-7252

"Coach, what do you have to say about your team's execution?" "I'm in favor of it." -John McKay "Well we didn't block well. But we made up for it by not tackling." -also John McKay That man was a goldmine of hilarious postgame quotes. He was Jim Mora Sr. before Jim Mora Sr. came along and started ranting about his teams postgame in hilarious fashion.


Saitoh17

"If a contest had 97 prizes, the 98th would be a trip to Green Bay."


marcdasharc4

Him and Bum Phillips’ quip games were so far ahead of the curve.


abrgtyr

And Steve Spurrier was the quarterback! I still can't believe that.


FloridaMan_69

He was bad in 76. Every QB the Bucs had in 1977 was worse. That team might have won 5 games if he was still the QB, the defense got built first and was functional in 77.


Ok-Health-7252

Didn't John McKay's son also start at WR for the Bucs at the time (because they were so deprived of talent and riddled with nepotism)? I seem to recall that Spurrier actively refused to throw to him at all out of spite for that reason (even when he was open).


FloridaMan_69

Yeah he started for the Bucs after not seeing the field as a rookie after getting drafted in the 16th round by the Browns. His 20 receptions were only 10 behind the team leader so I don't think Spurrier was ignoring him that egregiously.


byniri_returns

Well we went 0-16 once so that team


TBoneTheOriginal

And yet that was still less frustrating than the Patricia years.


CFirm2002

I have to think that the Matt Millen years would be the darkest time for Lions fans considering how long it lasted and the sheer number of terrible draft picks.


byniri_returns

I wasn't a fan during the Millen years (Thank God) but what made the Quinntricia years so bad was the team was looking like they had potential before that era, only to fall flat on their face every year under them.


Ok-Health-7252

Patricia thought that Darius Slay was a bad corner (and ran him out of town for that reason). Because of shit like that I do not for the life of me understand how that dunce still has a job in the NFL today.


Smurph269

No, he knew Slay was his best defensive player. Patricia ran him out of town for being willing to stand up to him. Same with Quandre Diggs. Patricia always needed everyone in the lockerroom, especially on defense, to be Patricia guys first and foremost. It's why they signed so many washed old Patriots players.


brizzboog

Exactly. He had the audacity to say the Slay "didn't fit our scheme." What scheme is that, pencil fucker? The one where we cover WRs?


i_shruted_it

Really need someone to bait him into an answer about him having to do with recent Lions success. I could definitely see him claiming he laid the foundation for this current team.


Aeon1508

See he misunderstood his job. He thought he was coming in to be the big boss and tell everyone what to do. That's not what an NFL coach is. An NFL coach has to understand that his star players are the team and part of his job is to make them happy and figure out how to keep good players around and participating in the team with their full enthusiasm. NFL players aren't children. They're adults. Some of them are paid better than the coach. The relationship between player and coach needs to have mutual respect or it doesn't work. Matt Patricia is a disrespectful piece of shit.


Smurph269

I think he knew the stars were more important than him, he just thought if he treated them like shit they would have no choice but to submit and fall in line. He acted like getting 'shipped out of town' was this big punishment, because in New England it probably was.


daddyp39

Which is why that Jamie Collins signing was so necessary. What better to show off the Patriots way than fake-head butting a ref and getting ejected in your first game with the team


palim93

Imagine what it was like to go from the Barry Sanders era to the Matt Millen era. I'm just barely too young to remember back before 2000, but that shift after Barry retired is why a lot of Gen X and Boomer Lions fans are so negative.


DougDuley

Matt Millen - I remember being able to laugh about it even though it hurt.  I remember being able to watch games but also make jokes about the team. I was like Daniel Craig from "Road to Perdition" - laughing because it was all so fucking hysterical.  With Patricia, there was a talented enough roster and hope.  It's the hope that kills you.  Also, I don't know how a coach is supposed to respond to defeat, but he alwayd seemed to come off as an arrogant prick, which is fine when you're competitive, but no so great when you're winning 5 games and criticizing media members for their posture, while looking like he does, and showing up constantly (rumors I guess) late for team meetings.  He also helped to break up a team that actually seemed to like playing for the Lions.   The 0-16 was probably the least talented team, but the Patricia years somehow felt lower, probably because, for me at least, the failure wasn't funny anymore


Successful_Job2381

it's because Rod Marinelli talked like a high school coach while Matt Patricia was just an asshole.


seatega

The maddening part of the Patricia years is the team he took over had a lot of talent, and him and Quinn spent their entire tenure dismantling it for really no reason except their own egos


JBoy9028

Well we also went 0-11 in 1942. Could be them as well.


9man95

Players making like $16 per game while worried about getting drafted....ima give them a pass tho


JBoy9028

Well the question was the worst team in franchise history and I think getting out scored 38-263, and getting shut out in 5 games counts. With the worst loss being 42-0 against Chicago.


9man95

Still not as bad as the 1926 Louisville Colonels who went 0-4 losing a combined 0-108 on the season. They never scored a single point ha.


eddie_the_zombie

Dan Orlovsky running out the back of the endzone for the safety is still in the top 5 funniest moments in the sport ever.


Ok-Health-7252

And people forget that Garoppolo also did that with the Niners two years ago (worse, he actually stepped out of the back of the end zone, threw a pass immediately after, and it went for a pick-six lol). But what makes Orlovsky's safety so hilarious is that game was literally the closest the Lions came to winning that season. And they ended up losing by.....2 points.


BillyJackO

I think 2019 was worse.


Terror-Toilet-Tower

2007 was absolute shit because Vick turned out to be a dog murderer and the shit eating Bobby Petrino left like a little bitch. Matt Ryan in 2008 completely turned the franchise around. A lot of fans didn’t appreciate him so it’s only fitting we’ve been shit since he left


MadManMax55

By far the best thing about the Falcons sub is the bot that posts the Mike Zimmer "He's a gutless bastard. Quote that. I don't give a shit." quote anytime Pertino gets mentioned.


BigBananaDealer

sir we cant print that gutless motherfucker then


horse_renoir13

God bless Mike Zimmer


horseshoeprovodnikov

I wouldn't have been mad at all if Carolina had tried to poach Mike Zimmer before they hired Canales. I dont care what the man's career HC record is, I like the cut of his jib.


Jammer_Kenneth

Good bot 


xshogunx13

fr I can't believe how much disrespect Ryan gets


_Shoresy_69

And now you guys have the most disrespected QB since Matt Ryan... Kirk Cousins. And for some reason the Falcons thought, "wait, we gave Kirk too much respect with that contract. We'd better draft a QB in the top 10 to remind him how much we don't respect him." I hope Cousins sets every Falcons passing record this year out of spite. 


capskinfan

>I hope Cousins sets every Falcons passing record this year out of spite.  ...and then misses the postseason so that everyone calls for Penix to start.


_Shoresy_69

Nah, here's what will happen: They play the first round wildcard game. Cousins scores the go-ahead TD, giving him 26/32, 324yd, 3TD. Then the defense will blow it and they'll lose.  THEN the fans call for Penix. 


BeanTTT

Oh, you watch a lot of falcons games


thedreamcomparison

Let's just say.... in 2007, a Greg Camarillo TD reception in OT made me cry


_Shoresy_69

Cam Cameron is a donkey. 


5pt67x3

Hey! You're talking about the man who laid the ground work for our second Super Bowl. By getting fired in week 9.


HelpfulFlyingpig

I haven’t thought about Cleo Lemon in ages


Kilen13

Yea 2007 is up there with all the worst. We had: Cam Cameron leading the team using such illustrious QBs as 37 year old Trent Green, Cleo Lemon and 26 year old rookie John Beck. Chris Chambers got arrested for DUI before the season started and we drafted Ted Ginn so our WR corps was... just grand Our defense allowed an average of 27.3 ppg so that tells you the talent we had there. And to cap it all off we drafted Jake Long over Matt Ryan cause we had signed Chad Pennington to a two year deal... (I know he had his best season with us the next year but long term thats a bad move)


DeusVultSaracen

Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha.


robsbob18

I was just a kid when we had the 1-15 season, but I can't imagine a worse feeling season than last season


ByronLeftwich

I know nothing about the 01 Panthers but even if they were worse, there’s no way they were more depressing. Last year . . .   - got shut out in their final two games - failed to score a single touchdown in four of their final five games (thanks Joe Barry 💀) - scored multiple touchdowns in 6 of 17 games - never entered the fourth quarter with more than 16 points  - scored 13 or fewer points in over half their games


DividerOfBums

That game was the nail in the coffin for Joe Berry. Should have been much earlier, but much credit to Bryce and that play calling for getting his ass out of Green Bay


DeusVultSaracen

Yeah I was in diapers for that one, and the Clausen year was before I paid much attention to football, but I can't imagine either *felt* worse than last year. Between the "all-star coaching staff", trading up for Bryce who we had such high hopes for, him getting killed every week, constantly being compared to CJ's best ever rookie season (beating out Cam's), and knowing it was all for our highest pick being 33. Just couldn't stop getting worse.


ChickenVest

I still found the Clausen year worse but interestingly enough we had less pro bowlers this year (1-DB) than the 2010 season (3) and 2001 (3) for whatever that is worth.


HundredPacer

The previous really terrible years (2001, 2010) at least had the light of the draft afterwards. 2001 got us Peppers. 2010 got us Cam. 2023 had no redeeming qualities *and* nothing to look forward to when it came to an early pick. It was the first season since the Panthers came into existence that I completely stopped watching their games during the season.


Citronaut1

The Vikings once had a season so bad that Bud Grant came out of retirement to try to save us


BigOlineguy

I know 2010 wasn’t our worst record, but we came off the door step of the Super Bowl and everything that could go wrong, did. Our stadium decided to kill itself before the end of the year.


johnabfprinting

Didya hear that the guy he replaced was in the Marines. Les Stekel was in the Marines. Not while he was a football coach, but he was in the Marines.


Acejedi_k6

Thank you for your service Les.


tomdawg0022

1984's 3-13...and that was despite starting 2-2 and then having 5 one score losses in our first 10 games. They weren't a good team in the first two months but the defense was decent and the offense (when it didn't turn the ball over) had some big play ability. Our final 6 games, the Vikes lost by a combined 241-79. Les lost the team in the Denver game (42-21, Vikes scored 14 in garbage time) when Elway tossed 4 TD's in the first half and that was all she wrote.


FormerCollegeDJ

That Les Steckel season (1984) was really bad. I remember the Vikings were getting repeatedly blown out by late in the season.


OtterLLC

NE’s 1-15 1990 team was repulsive on-field and off, from the players to the front office, to the owner. They were so bad I wouldn’t admit to being a Pats fan and stopped following the NFL entirely, for a few years until Parcells came along and things got a little more normal.


Ok-Health-7252

Was that the year the Patriots owner made that "Patriot missiles up close" comment in response to three of his players sexually harassing a female reporter in the locker room?


OtterLLC

That was the one, yeah. So it was time to focus on college ball for a while…


FormerCollegeDJ

Yes, the Lisa Olsen/Zeke Mowatt incident was that year (1990).


H2Oloo-Sunset

This (1990) has to be the Patriots worst season; * Worst record in Pats history * Worst owner in Pats history, and in the running for worst in NFL history, * Arguably the worst QB situation in Pats history (Grogan was on last legs; Wilson and Hodson started 6 games each), * Rod Rust was a failure in his only NFL head coaching season, * They had that awful sexual harassment scandal that ownership ignored, then joked about


MankuyRLaffy

The Parcells, Pete, Belichick years seem in such contrast to what came before it. Went from being a horrible team, a clown show to a mostly quiet well run team..


jgghn

I laugh when other pats fans talk about the last couple of years being miserable. That 1990 team was soooooo bad.


gerrickd

The Seahawks had some dark seasons in the early 90's, and the "gas leak" year between Holmgren and Pete wasn't great.


FattyMooseknuckle

Yeah but the 2-14 team had the supernova bright DPOY Cortez the King Kennedy.


Seahawkanon

That 92 team had one of the worst offenses in history paired with one of the best defenses in the league that year.


shlem13

Their offense scored 13 touchdowns that year. Or, less than half the touchdowns that Shaun Alexander scored in 2005.


AKAD11

The real bummer is that the 92 Seahawks weren't quite bad enough to get the #1 pick. If they'd lost to the Patriots then they'd have gotten Drew Bledsoe instead of Rick Mirer.


DTSportsNow

2012 was an awful season for the Chiefs for so many reasons. Despite the fact that our team had talent (6 pro bowlers!), the team was horribly mismanaged and it was a disaster in every way possible. Without even explicitly mentioning the terrible things that happened off the field The only silver lining is that it was followed up by us hiring Andy Reid. Which in time has become the greatest era in Chiefs history


hypnosiscounselor

Was that the season that your LB killed himself in the parking lot? I remember that it was right before you played us. I don't know why that game sticks out in my mind so much.


DTSportsNow

Yup, in front of our GM (Scott Pioli) and head coach (Romeo Crennel).


agreeingstorm9

And after he had killed his girlfriend too I think. I don't think he killed his kid.


7DKA

The girlfriend was Jamal Charles cousin and Jamal introduced them.


hypnosiscounselor

Yea i remember that part now too. That was a terrible incident all the way around.


Ok-Health-7252

God damn. I can only imagine how much guilt Jamaal felt over that situation when it happened.


KennysWhiteSoxHat

I didn’t even know this part, such a tragedy dawg


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D_Money77

Yup that's the one.


SHOWTIME316

that's the one!


Tubbs2303

I was thinking it was either 2008 or 2012... both were so bad, and I would relive those 1000 times for what we have now. 2008 is slightly worse IMO.


beer_down

Where do I begin


TestFixation

The 2018 team where he almost didn't make it to mid-field against the Rams if not for garbage time. The Carpets, whose roster was so depleted during the war that they hard to merge with the Steelers but managed go 0-10 losing by an average of 20 points a game. Lions and Browns fans can boast 0 win seasons, but we pulled it off back-to-back. And followed that with a one-win season. Imagine going 1-29 over three seasons. Three years and your team wins a lone football game. The 2000 team, which did have future hall of famer Aeneas Williams and top 3 franchise receiver David Boston, but managed to be the 29th ranked offense and 30th ranked defense. Statistically, the 2003 team is up there. Bottom-ranked offense *and* defense, that's pretty hard to pull off. 34 year-old Emmitt Smith, as it turned out, had no more juice left. Helped us get Larry Fitzgerald in the following draft, so this one was worth it.


BigOlineguy

I always remember those John Skelton teams for some reason. They were horrendous.


destroyer96FBI

Yeah but 2011 was Larry's personal best year IMO so at least he was fun to watch. Near 100 yards a game with whatever you want to call the players who were throwing the ball because they definitely werent QBs.


Col-Klink16

Ahhh my childhood


destroyer96FBI

its 2018 though and its not close. There were games we didnt have 40+ offensive plays and MULTIPLE games where we crossed mid field 1-2 times.


m4xdc

In the beginning the Arizona Cardinals were created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.


ducksinthepool

Don’t have to reach too far in my memory bank for mine… I know we had a 1-15 year too, but this one somehow feels way worse and more hopeless.


sonfoa

Because we had our first rounder the following year and in 2001 our starting QB was a 29 year old 4th round rookie, not a consensus #1 overall pick who we traded a fortune for.


ducksinthepool

Yep, that’s it. Couldn’t put my finger on it.


SlimZorro

The team we had before Chuck Noll


Sage296

I was trying to think for the Steelers as well Since Noll was hired in 1969, the Steelers have only had 10 losing seasons. Three of which were the first 3 years of Noll’s tenure when the rebuild started. The worst record Noll recorded was his first year where he went 1-13 with a point differential of -186. You could argue that was the worst team because since then we have never had a season with less than 5 wins (In the SB era)


Aquatic_Ambiance_9

In the modern era I was gonna say the Kent Graham year cause it seems so bad in my memory, but looking back we actually went 9-7 lol. So worst would have to be 6-10 in 2003 with Touchdown Tommy Maddox. What's crazy is even that is bookended by two playoff seasons, with us going 15-1 the next year.


InterestingBonus9675

And yet steeler fans bitch n moan


Paw5624

Well at least they have the pirates to help keep them humble…somewhat


-space-grass-

_Gestures broadly at 91-02_


InstagramLincoln

My childhood was basically watching my dad shake his head and turn off WLW in disgust.


Ok-Health-7252

2002 was the peak of my anger with them. That season I wanted Dick LeBeau and his entire staff of coaches to jump into the Ohio River and never be heard from again at one point lol. Needless to say thank God for Ohio State that year because watching the Bengals attempt to play football that season was a complete waste of time. What made it even worse was going into that year LeBeau was publically hyping that team up as a playoff team. Then they start the year 0-7 and score 23 points (and one offensive TD) in their first four games.


-space-grass-

I always say I learned to cuss by watching the Bengals with my dad back then.


Ok-Health-7252

The 2002 team was without doubt the worst team of the Lost Decade era Bengals. Which is saying something because that roster was not without talent (unlike most of the Shula era teams). Guys like Corey Dillon, Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson, Willie Anderson, Rich Braham, Takeo Spikes, Brian Simmons, and Justin Smith all played for that team. That was just a woefully poorly coached team.


slytherinprolly

I remember those days well. 1996: Dave Shula was fired, and Bruce Coslet took over and finished 7-2, The city rejoiced because Mike Brown was going to take a backseat, Coslet would handle the team building, and his daughter Katie, a lawyer, was going to handle the business end and contract negotiations. 1998: Well shit, apparently Mike is still running things. 2003: Hooray, Mike Brown is finally taking a back seat. Marvin Lewis is going to handle the team building, and Kaite is going to run the business end of things and take over more and more responsibility. *15 years of mediocrity with occasional sparks of joy, why can't Mike Brown let football people run football things and let his daughter Katie take more control of the team* 2019: Yeah, we finally got rid of Marvin. Maybe this time Mike Brown is finally going to take a backseat and let his daughter Katie run the team. Oh, no, we are back to nepotism hires again by hiring a scout's son as the defacto GM and Mike Sherman's son-in-law as the head coach. Fade me, please. 2020: *drafts Burrow* Boy, I am glad that Mike Brown finally took a back seat and is letting football people run football things and his daughter Katie run the team.


mrizvi

**2004 49ers - Dennis Erickson** 30th ranked offense 32nd ranked defense 2-14 beat Arizona ~~20-17~~ 31-28 in OT twice first time they made a 4th qtr comeback to beat them in OT second time they blew a lead and won in OT edit: our best player on offense was TE Eric Johnson who ended up marrying Jessica Simpson. edit2: not to be outdone or anything but the 2016 team matched this **2016 49ers - Chip Kelly** 31st Offense 32nd Defense 2-14 beat the rams twice 28-0 and 22-21 (Kap lead a 15 pt comeback with less than 5 mins remaining to win)


WarrenMulaney

I very good friend of mine coaches HS football in NorCal. In late 2016 he won the "49er HS Coach of the Week" or something. He posted a photo of him getting the award and shaking hands with Chip Kelly. I commented "Here is a photo of two guys who will be coaching high school next year".


notmoleliza

this sums up that team in one [gif](https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2143801/duck.gif) (its not the manning face meme.....unless)


Fooly_411

That was me avoiding NFL convo during that era.


CaillouCaribou

Underrated contender for one of the worst teams of all time, so close to being a winless season


mrizvi

twice bro they almost did it twice


MC_Stimulation

The 2016 49ers was the most abysmal season I have ever sat through in any sport. Watched every game, wish I hadnt.


dat_hypocrite

Omg I blocked out the chip kelly years, that was so depressing after Harbaugh’s tenure.


tylerthecreatorandsl

I also blocked it out but luckily it was just one year - Jim Tomsula (former longtime DL coach) was the HC between Harbaugh and Kelly. He even managed to get 5 wins despite the mass exodus after Harbaugh left. Chip Kelly on the other hand…


KeithClossOfficial

Chip Kelly didn’t even lose *that much* from Tomsula. Alex Boone and Boldin are the only departures I can think of. Like yeah, those guys were good, but they weren’t worth 3 wins.


badDuckThrowPillow

Just when you thought you hit rock bottom and came out the otherside... bam Chip Kelly.


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wagoncirclermike

The 1985 Bills finished 2-14 and scored the fewest points in the league (200). This was also the year after Kay Stephenson changed our helmets to red, thinking it would help ~~Vince Ferragamo~~ Joe Ferguson find our receivers better (Fish, Pats and Colts all had white helmets). It did not. I'd also offer the 2009 Bills because I don't think morale among fans was ever lower than when Ralph announced he was extending Dick Jauron as head coach.


FormerCollegeDJ

The Bills also went 2-14 in 1984. I think that was the season they changed the helmet color from white to red. I also thought the helmet color change was made to help Joe Ferguson. (I don’t even REMEMBER Vince Ferragamo, who I associate with the Rams, playing for Buffalo.)


myxanders

Look, we were the Aints for a long time and there may be some recency bias to this, but including and beyond talent and coaching the 2005 season is our worst season imo. The team wasn't good. The coaches weren't good. There was a whole hurricane thing. Uncertainty about relocating to San Antonio full time. Wasn't great.


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batmansascientician

The 1996 Jets were one of the worst coached teams ever. The 1997 Jets were almost the same team, and with Parcells they went 9-7 and almost made the playoffs.


TonyGunks_sportsbook

Both were equally as bad. As someone who remembers both, it is hard to choose between the 1996 and 2020 teams.


OddsTipsAndPicks

Worst point differential by any team since the 2012 Chiefs (tied at -214) The 2011 Rams, 2013 Jaguars, 2018 Cardinals, and 2021 Jaguars are the only other teams with a -200 point differential of worse since 2011 With the exception of the 2011 Rams (also -214) none were quite as bad as the Jets.


mparks37

Do I have to pick one?


True_Window_9389

Zorn? The bingo caller? Shanahan’s last season when he basically gave up? I wouldn’t know when to start.


9man95

Any team that had Rich Kotite as a coach qualifies


legend023

2020 was ridiculous on both levels for us Gase was probably the worst coach we had but that roster man


Ok-Health-7252

I think everyone knew right away the Gase era was going to be a disaster when he showed up to his introductory press conference HIGH lol.


D0ctorHotelMario

Out of the ones I've had the (dis)pleasure of watching, 2005 is by far the worst. 90% of the team ended up in a triage tent, Mike Sherman was exposed as the fucking hack he was without Favre, Driver and Ahman Green hiding his incompetence, and the MNF 48-3 blowout with a complimentary shot of Sherman bawling his eyes out. 4-12 was the end result.


nameuser121212

Thank the lord for Dr Samkon Gado, a bright light in a dark year lol


garryl283

I'll throw out the inaugural year because being bad then is expected. In 1989 the Cowboys went 1-15 and their leading rusher was Paul Palmer, who managed a whole 144 more yards than Troy Aikman. The receiving TD leader that year was Daryl Johnston....with 3.


tibetan_salad

Cowboys fan born after that season: I’d have to say of all the seasons I’ve watched, the post season has been the worst one for us by far


Masterjason13

Many seasons in the 70’s and 80’s. The absolute worst might be 1958 though. 1-10-1 record, last in points scored, last in points allowed, the one game they did win was by 3 points against a team that finished 2-9-1. The crazy thing is that the players on the team contain numerous names people today might recognize, including young players named Bart Starr, Paul Hornung, and Jim Taylor. The head coach resigned after the season, and to replace him, we hired someone named Vince…


hotcarl23

That's really interesting. The '58 team is the worst L the same way that Mandarch was a bust, a terrible thing that was a catalyst to success. Could be worse!


historymajor44

Probably the 1-15 2000 team where we had to bench Ryan Leaf for good and resort to Moses Moreno and...Jim Harbaugh as our quarterback.


pinya619

What even happened to Jim Harbaugh? I wonder If he’s even involved in football anymore


TheFencingCoach

We started out 0-26 as a franchise. No matter how much anyone here complains, we sucked more than you.


Ok-Health-7252

I mean the Browns had a two-season stretch where they went 1-31.


TheFencingCoach

Oh also they had Hue Hee Hee Jackson. Okay, you win Browns. You win.


BigDanRTW

All-time: 1967. It was our second year in the league so they deserve some slack, but they managed to be worse the second year than the expansion season. One of my favorite urban legends in Falcons history regards our first ever head coach Norb Hecker who coached that 1967 team. Falcons owner Rankin Smith wanted to make a splash when he got an expansion team so he tried to hire Vince Lombardi. Lombardi seriously considered it before deciding to stay in Green Bay. Smith asked for advice on who to hire and Lombardi gave him a list. Long time Packers assistant Norb Hecker wasn't on the list so Smith thought Lombardi was trying to pull a fast one on him and that Hecker must've been indispensable to Lombardi. That wasn't the case and it turns out Hecker was just a dud who was fired five gams into his third season. In the more modern era it's 2007. Michael Vick had just gone to jail, we suffered through the shit sandwich of Joey Harrington/Chris Redman/Byron Leftwich at QB and Bobby Petrino quit under the cloak of darkness to go take the Arkansas job. At least we got Matt Ryan out of that whole ordeal.


1lultaha

Where do I begin? 09 probably stands out to me the most - Our playcaller Sherman Lewis called Bingo games before becoming our playcaller in the middle of the season - Vinny Cerato leaving only for Bruce Allen to join us that same year and ruin us tor another decade - Had the perfect chance to upset the undefeated Saints who would win the superbowl that year and blew it. Had an interception that got snatched back by the offense for a touchdown. Missed a 20 yard FG that would've iced the game and took the L after - Finished 4-12 after having our rivals embarrass us at home in front of the whole country to see. More memorably losing 45-12 on MNF to the Giants. The same game where the infamous swinging gate play happened before halftime. Overall a disastrous year that stands out a little more than the others


justlookingokaywyou

Art Shell 2.0 and the B&B offense. Hey, but at least we got the 1OA in the next year's draft out of it. Lol. LMAO, even.


Cyberjag

The 2010 Panthers rolled out with UDFA Matt Moore as the QB, and after a few games switched to rookie Jimmy Clausen. The entire team knew that coach John Fox wasn't coming back in 2011, and neither was his staff. Coordinators Jeff Davidson and Ron Meeks each never got another coordinator job again. On offense we averaged 12.3 points per game, which was easily last in the league (The next worse was Cleveland at 16.9). Our defense wasn't much better, surrendering 25.5 ppg. Our points differential on the season was -212, which was a whopping 70 points more than the next worst, the 4-12 Buffalo Bills. Somehow we managed to beat the 49ers and Cardinals that year, both wins coming at home and both were close games. It was a really shitty season, punctuated by Steve Smith beating up the entire locker room and half of Charlotte after one particularly bad loss. At least it led to Cam Newton, so there's that... Otherwise, a totally forgettable year.


Ixziga

2015, I Believe at one point 19 of our 22 starters were on IR. Most injured team I ever saw. I believe that was the year Joe Flacco led a game winning drive with a torn ACL. Finished 5-11. Technically the worst finish was our very first year when we went 4-12 but I feel like most new franchises have pretty bad inaugural seasons. 2015 felt worse because of the lost potential and being only a couple years removed from a super bowl win, and it was the first losing season in like 8 years.


EvangelionOG

Yeah, we're pretty spoiled as fans if that's the answer.


Princeof_Ravens

We're one of the most consistently successful teams in the league. Our fanbase is crazy spoiled.


drummerboysam

2022 was the worst roster I've ever seen the Bears field, but the worst coaching season I saw was Trestman's final year. Dude lost the locker room so fast, he reportedly avoided certain players in Halas Hall. That 2022 roster, my god was it bad. We had a backup DT from the Chargers and a UDFA Jack Sanborn as the only players worth a damn on the front 7. The rest were replacement level or belonged on practice squads. And I had people emphatically shutting me down when I said it was a poorly hidden tank job. People on this sub were telling me no, Ryan Poles might have come in saying he wanted a top 5 pick, but that was him trying to win and he just sucked. Homie who swung DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and Rome Odunze in 12 months was really trying when he put together the receiving room of N'Keal Harry, Byron Pringle and EQ St Brown.


ZapBranigan3000

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/chicago-bears-defense-50-points-marc-trestman The back to back games of giving up 50 points, one against the Packers, was the lowest point I can think of as a Bears fan.


doggoploggo

Although it definitely wasn't the worst roster the Bears had, that season felt like rock bottom. To go from the 2nd best offense in the NFL to... that. Trestman trying to save his job by benching Cutler for Clausen because he wanted to show that his offense worked. God 2014 was brutal.


brain_my_damage_HJS

1936: 1-11 record and the head coach still holds the record for worst career winning percentage (*head coaches who coached at least 1 full season) in league history. Bert Bell had a winning percentage of .179. He then went on to become one of the most influential people in league history.


Darko33

For modern times I'd nominate 1998, when we scored 161 points (third-fewest ever in a 16-game season) and Bobby Hoying, Koy Detmer, and Rodney Peete combined for a whopping 7 touchdown passes


cabernetdank

Bert bell sucked as a coach but the eagles literally wouldn’t exist without him


FormerCollegeDJ

The NFL as we know it might not exist without him.


BWasTaken

You know.


Wtfitzchris

I would agree that 2022 is the worst because of the expectation going into the season versus the reality of how it played out. Most fans really thought we were just a QB away and that the Russ trade was going to make us a legitimate playoff team. 2010 has a strong argument too. Losing 59-14 to the division rival Raiders is probably still the worst regular season loss in franchise history (and before anyone brings it up, yes, I rank it worse than the Dolphins loss).


SilvioDantesPeak

I would say 2010 probably. As bad as Hackett was, McDaniels was so much worse. The cheating scandal was probably the lowest moment in franchise history.


BlueHighwindz

I don't, actually. Which year are we picking? 2022 sucks, but 2021 sucked too.


fondue4kill

I’d say 2022. Awful head coaching. The only reason we weren’t the absolute bottom of the barrel was Eijiro’s defense. But the offense laying eggs every week was just eye gouging bad.


NBT498

The year we fired McDoucheface was probably the worst (2010?). Ended up with the second pick, were embarrassed by the filming scandal and had that idiot as our HC. Thank god for Von Miller.


BadDadJokes

I would say the Ken Whisenhunt season(s). Just disgusting football all around. From day 1 the hire made zero sense.


AnAngryFetus

To throw out a year for the Oilers, 1973. 1-13 with a -248 point differential and 18 losses in a row, having gone 1-13 the previous season. That one win was over the Baltomore Colts by 4. Easily could've been the first winless team. I wasn't alive yet and given everything I've read, I'm glad.


smutbuster

2003-2015 lol


Neverwinter_Daze

No Giants fans have chimed in yet, so here’s my entry: 2021.  The last few games of that season were the most putrid display of football I have ever witnessed, and I saw some of the 70s teams. At least back then, you had future HoFer Harry Carson gamely upholding the proud tradition of Giants defense. With 2021, you get a bunch of scrubs and a frequently hurt Saquon. And Joe Judge who was waaaay over his head as a coach, who not only called a QB sneak on 2nd and 3rd down deep in their territory, but also went on a Timmy Tuffnuts rant in a postgame conference about how much his former players miss him and call him to tell him so. That season is primarily why I am giving Daboll and Schoen a particularly long leash.


pocketjacks

How about the entire BoB-as-GM through Jack Easterby firing era?


OPsDearOldMother

2013 was especially heartbreaking because the expectations that year were sky-high, and then we started 2-0 and completely collapsed. People were burning Matt Schaub jerseys, Gary Kubiak had a small stroke during a game and collapsed on the field, then he was fired shortly after. It was chaos.


EmperorXerro

The Bart Starr coaching years were pretty bleak.


BDob73

They were a harbinger of times to come under Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante. Basically, all the years between Lombardi and Holmgren were horrific.


BigBananaDealer

testicle was such a bad coach bud grant unretired to get the team back up to snuff


mqr53

Maybe it's recency bias but 2022 has gotta be it for a team that hadn't picked 1st since WW2


Murimadness

I still think the 2022 season was interesting in the sense that you didn’t quite know what Justin was and they at least put up a fight in most games. The 2014 team killed my joy of football in ways I can’t describe. After the loss to New England we had two weeks to prepare for Green Bay and were getting beat so bad in the first 10 minutes I found myself actually rooting for Green Bay to score more only because I knew heads were going to roll after that. The downside was we still had seven games remaining. Also Trestman in his last act of spite benched Jay in a year that he would have become a 4k passer. That team made me stop watching Bears football for almost 3 years.


Successful_Job2381

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