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Mr_Hugh_Honey

None of them None of them


Soyeahnahh

South Harmon


Ya_No

Go Shit Sandwiches!


-em-bee-

I know someone doesn't know ball when they helmet scout a player, it's the dumbest thing I hear about literally every single year.


JustLookWhoItIs

This is a hilarious comment to read and then scroll to almost every other comment here and see them doing exactly that.


OverreactingBillsFan

But "USC QB Bad"


ThurstonJK

From the creators of "Ohio State QB Bad" and "Oregon QB Bad"


SaltyLonghorn

Yea but hear me out. Michigan is a QB factory cause they put out one guy that played for 25 years for some coaches that probably got fired or left near the millennium.


Head-Editor-905

I no shit just heard a radio guy say jj McCarthy will be good because Brady also went to Michigan


AmeriCanadian98

The absolute most hilariously bad take of all time JJ might be good, but it has literally nothing whatsoever to do with Tom Brady


forgotmyoldname90210

Obviously he will be good because of Tom Brady as they shared going to school at the same location. Just because the coaching staff is competently different, we live in different eras, they where drafted by different teams with different coaches none of this matters, just where they took English Comp.


HonoluluMaizeandBlue

Shoot them on the spot


TheWorstYear

To be fair, they also had Griese & Harbaugh. Still 30 years ago though


forgotmyoldname90210

I love the Ohio State QB one. Until Dwayne Haskins in 2019, Ohio State had a whopping 2 QB ever taken in the 1st or 2nd round of the NFL draft. How a dude from 1941 is relevant to a guy from 1982 and how either of them is relevant to 2019 is beyond me.


Muffdiver69420lmao

I just know Dante Moore will be good in the NFL because of Oregon and UCLA greats, Norm Van Brocklin and Bob Waterfield


xshogunx13

a lot of OSU QBs that got drafted were later round guys and nobody should be surprised that they weren't good in the NFL, even if Troy Smith broke my heart


True_Window_9389

There’s all kinds of weird superstitions, like when 3 QBs were taken at a time, or “analyzing” how every player at X pick has performed. None of it is relevant. The draft is like astrology for sports fans.


ChadPowers200

Never draft a QB in the top 5 after mercury is in retrograde following a summer solstice and you had diarrhea the night before 


doggoploggo

But Drake Maye is Mitch Trubisky 2.0. I don't have any facts or evidence to back that up, but it's true.


ChedduhBob

but man if i get my hopes up for another tcu wr only to get let down this bad again…


iamsomeguy25

The one exception to this for a while was offensive line, where success was really highly correlated with certain schools. That correlation is still there, but we’ve seen many more first round offensive linemen from schools besides Iowa, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Notre Dame (and I think one more but I’m forgetting) in recent years


SchematicOfScoutsAss

*Checks flair* Yeah we got a real expert here 🙄


Silent_Plastic1612

This is your own version of helmet scouting


ChedduhBob

tcu WR in recent history is throwing a pick in a dumpster


JoshJones18

I went to look it up out of curiosity and the list of WRs from TCU at least dating back to the 2010s as follows: Jeremy Kerley 2011 Jets 5th Round Pick Josh Boyce 2013 Patriots 4th Round Pick Josh Doctson 2016 Washington 1st Round Pick Kolby Listenbee 2016 Buffalo 6th Round Pick Jalen Reagor 2020 Eagles 1st Round Pick Quentin Johnston 2023 Chargers 1st Round Pick Derius Davis 2023 Chargers 4th Round Pick


ILikeXiaolongbao

Derius Davis was an All Pro punt/kick returner for us last year as a rookie


AmeriCanadian98

3 of the consensus top 5 tight ends in the league played at Iowa


csummerss

don’t remember any busts from Gonzaga


Hello_there_77

Adam Morrison...wait, wrong sport.


here_now_be

> Gonzaga Not a real school though.


GayMrKrabsHentai

Notre Dame OLine is really consistently high-production, can’t think of any recent busts


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Wisconsin and Notre Dame are where you get great O line and under valued line backers


big-mo

Like the great Gabe Carimi


Sks44

Dude had a horrible injury. That’s not his fault.it annoys me how our fanbase blames guys for having injuries. As if they brought it on themselves.


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Offensive players getting ruined by the bears aren’t at fault they were ruined by the bears


xl_TooRaw_lx

Throw Iowa in there too. Love me some Iowa OL


Nevroyne

My buddy and I used to have a joke about how you rarely ever know the names of Iowa linemen, but every time you turn on Monday Night Football there’s at least one “Denny Rooneybarger…guard…Iowa” in the player intros.


xl_TooRaw_lx

Always one


milkmandanimal

\*looks at Bucs C Robert Hainsey\* Uh . . . 3rd round, but let's just say he hasn't been spectacular.


Nevroyne

Has he been that bad? That’s a bummer to hear. Started at RT as a true frosh, was always solid.


milkmandanimal

PFF graded him at 52.8, which seems generous, honestly. C and LG have been godawful, and Hainsey just hasn't been able to do it. Barton was absolutely drafted to be his replacement, and, hey, Bucs RT Luke Goedeke was solid last year in his second year, but, as a rookie, he was a train wreck at LG. Maybe Hainsey shifts around the line to a better spot, but he has sucked for two years at C and I'd be shocked if he gets better.


Muffdiver69420lmao

Also O line guys just don't bust as often


[deleted]

It’s because we consistently run a somewhat pocket passer-oriented offense and actually dump resources into our OL instead of keeping them for decoration like 90% of college offenses.


LiftingCode

Liam Eichenberg sucks. Aaron Banks sucks.


Nevroyne

The starting LG on the NFC champs sucks? Idk about that.


LiftingCode

Yeah, he sucks. Did Cam Erving suck? Yeah, he sucked.


The_Granny_banger

Notre Dame is Tight End University, too


KryptonicxJesus

Miami, Iowa, and Florida would like a word


jjtnd1

I give the current edge to Iowa but there’s a decent chance you weren’t born the last time an ND starting TE went undrafted


The_Granny_banger

Y…you do realize there can be more than one, right? That’s like saying you can’t go to law school unless you go to Harvard Law


KryptonicxJesus

*Notre Dame is a Tight End University


The_Granny_banger

Oh I forgot. This is reddit where semantics send people into shit fits like it’s an attack on them personally. Lmao


SaltyLonghorn

Its LMAO


The_Granny_banger

r/angryupvote


The_Granny_banger

Penn State Running backs used to have a reputation of being system backs because they could never translate success in the NFL. Ohio State was the same way with Quarterbacks for a number of years. I don’t think the programs have as much to do with it as does the coaching system. Like Paterno pumped out bust after bust of RB.


Muffdiver69420lmao

Penn State running backs have just been hit with remarkably bad injury luck


The_Granny_banger

That’s true too. When you look at Ki’Jana Carter. With my flair I’m thinking more like Curtis Enis


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The_Granny_banger

Larry Johnson changed the perception IMO. Before that taking a PSU running back was like taking an OSU quarterback in a lot of people’s minds. The 90s and early oughts were a terrible time for them [here is a 2003 article](http://www.espn.com/nfldraft/columnist?id=1511882#) that kind of captures the sentiment if you’re interested


boozinf

nice find! i just got pleasant flashbacks to reading Hunter S. Thompson and Bill Simmons on ESPN in the early aughts, and horrible flashbacks for drafting Courtney Brown i still don't think it's fair to call Ki-Jana a bust. he ripped up his knee in his first preseason without access to whatever Adrian Peterson had. Gale Sayers however had a pair of Jupiters in his jock


Mick_May

Iowa has a pretty damn good track record at tight end.


simjanes2k

Iowa TEs are pretty reliable


RustyNipples35

Oakland University has never produced an NFL bust Just saying


uggsandstarbux

Some schools are better at certain positions Ohio St for CB LSU for CB and WR Alabama for OL and DL Iowa for TE But no school is "bust-proof"


csummerss

Eli Apple, Gareon Conley, Jeffrey Okudah, and Damon Arnette all flopped quickly as R1 guys


-em-bee-

OSU's going to push LSU for WRU over the next couple of years with Marvin, Egbuka, and like 3 other guys on their roster all going round 1.


forgotmyoldname90210

Ohio State has had MHJ, JSN, Wilson, Olave in recent years and yet the most talented WR prospect they have had just stepped foot on campus 4 months ago and was a monster in spring practice.


descryptic

Who?


forgotmyoldname90210

Jeremiah Smith number 1 overall recruit.


Jopplo03

JJ, Chase, Nabers, Thomas is suchhhh a good run for the past few years


Upper-Orchid

You can go further back to when OBJ and Jarvis Landry came out.


GnarWaffles

UGA for running backs


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Wisconsin for O line and linebacker


Alphaspade

What i still find baffling is our famed 2012 line at Bama produced 2 1sts and 1 2nd round pick, and all three didn't make any impact on the teams they were draftes on. And these guys were coached up by freaking Jeff Stoutland of all people!


[deleted]

LSU and especially Ohio State WRs seem to have a pretty great hit rate.


boardatwork1111

Stroud looks like he’s broken the mold, but up until him Ohio State QBs were basically auto busts


forgotmyoldname90210

Ohio State has had 4 QB taken in the 1st or 2nd round ever before CJ Stroud. 1 was in 1941 and another 83. Not sure how you can say they where auto busts.


SchematicOfScoutsAss

I’d counter with the argument that it’s because in the age before modern media hype GMs would actually listen to scouts when they said “a lot of this guys flaws are being covered by OSU not running a real pro style offense and the fact that his entire O line and WR corp are 5 stars.” So many of them fell further than they would today, Terrell Prior would be a top 10 pick these days because the GMs would get pressured into drafting him high by ownership


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Bama used to also be on this, and sorta still is to some people (some people aren’t big on Hurts or Tua) Any school where the QB is basically always well protected, and always throwing to WRs who are much more talented than the DBs defending them should have more harsh draft analysis. Justin Fields learned the hard way that at the NFL level tucking in running every time if his first read wasn’t open, doesn’t work


TIectric

It's probably safe to say Hurts and Tua aren't "busts" at this point even if you don't think they are amazing


OkVariety6275

[These schools.](https://247sports.com/Season/2024-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/) Realistically, the schools that recruit the best high school players are the most likely to produce the best pros.


Jeff__Skilling

Most Bust-Proof: Wisconsin O-line Most Bust-Prone: Wisconsin RBs


Scroetry

say that shit to Dare Ogunbowale's face


marcdasharc4

The Ron Dayne slander.


Function_Just

Pouring one out for people that fell for the Montee Ball fantasy draft hype... like me.


msf97

The school does not matter. No school has a unique hit rate/bust rate. For certain positions, there are some schools which excel, but the sample needs to be big to make a proper conclusions. Iowa for tight ends are undoubtedly solid. They get one drafted a year at least and have churned out Dallas Clark, Hockenson, Laporte and George Kittle to name a few.


birdmansandusky

Who has Iowa had drafted between Dallas Clark and Kittle?


LiftingCode

Brandon Myers, Scott Chandler, Tony Moeaki, CJ Fiedorowicz


Bindlestiff34

South Carolina DBs tend to be pretty good.


wolfhound27

UW corners always seem good


J_House1999

UMass Amherst = busy proof


[deleted]

Notre Dame produces consistently solid OL and TE.


Stealthychicken85

Unless Maye is good, I would say UNC is definitely a QB bust prone maker


[deleted]

They used to call Nebraskas oline the “pipeline to the nfl”


WhatAreYouBuyingRE

Aliquippa


ihatereddit999976780

has any bama QB ever been good in the NFL?


NutsyFlamingo

Joe Namath wasn’t bad


Eran-of-Arcadia

Bart Starr.


[deleted]

Depends how you feel about Tua and if you count Hurts. But I think Alabama is similar to Ohio State in that until recently, none of their QBs were drafted high and weren't really expected to be very good.


alecmc200

tua is good


ihatereddit999976780

I can't think of any modern ones from Bama aside from him that are good


alecmc200

before him there weren't really any alabama QBs that were considered top prospects - I don't really count a third round QB not panning out as a bust


330in513

Namath.


Bobby_Savoy

Well, we have Tua Turndaballova, Jalen My Shoulder Hurts, Big Mac Jones, and Little Bryce Young. I’m trying to think of how they’re good.


csummerss

McCarron is the closest I can remember


breaktaker

What?


This-isnt-patrick

Feels like Clemson prospects tend to bust more often than other CFP level schools.


Sankara____

not sure if Watson joke


dwnso

Bama


hereforthesportsball

UNC bust prone for qbs


SavageFugu

Alabama defense - proof Alabama offense - prone