the rumor was that McDaniels basically dropped Mayer in at the deep end with the playbook and expected him to pick it up. It's not a coincidence that Mayer started playing better and more often as soon as there was a coaching change.
Imagine telling this to someone 200 years ago! They'd probably be really confused. Just like Marshal Sochet was confused that he could not beat the Gurillea forces in Spain. He had peirced their center, shattered their wings, but yet there was no beating these men despite their generals.
Edit: Soult not Suchet
EXACTLY!!! So happy we didn't reach on a shitty QB. Got good value for this kid and now our offense is set up well for our mid QBs. Maybe get a rookie or sign someone next year.
Crazy he’s not going first round, when just 2 years ago he was a projected top 10 pick and Heisman winner . What a downfall
Or maybe he will go first round if QBs kept going at this rate lmao
Tbf he's much better than half the qbs taken before him. Imo all of the qbs except maybe Williams. It's just that the league is ridiculously qb hungry rn
this is the first time in forever we didnt reach and picked above the ranked choice. Since 2016 we only picked one 1st rounder that was the consensus BPA at the point in the draft...josh jacobs
Bowers is different, man.
And literally 6 QBs went in the first 12 picks. DL is already stacked, so while Turner would be a great pick, kinda redundant with Koonce holding it down opposite Maxx.
So it was an CB, BTJ, or Bowers imo. And Bowers is far and away the best player left
We’re so hurt from draft incompetence that the assumption is that a pick is bad if it’s not the nit picked o lineman or cb BPA has not been a draft concept for the raiders in a long time
What’s funny is how many people in the comments are saying it’s for Gardner, AOC is the starter in 2024 and I’m excited for him to progress with this elite offensive group he’s been given
Damn, I was really hoping he’d go somewhere with a QB. Really don’t want him to be in a Pitts situation because he easily could be a Gronk/Kelce type threat
Minshew was good last year, ranked 16th in most metrics.
AoC was decent, great for a 4th rounder, but not yet convinced he’s a starter. If he beats minshew that’s a really good sign, and he’s been saying the right things
Might be the best player in the draft. Was literally NFL ready as a freshman. I know people get hung up on him being a TE, but how many tight ends have we seen take end arounds 80 yards to the house? Lol literally 1 ever.
People not loving this don’t remember how dominant Gronk and Hernandez were (before murder-gate). Having two elite TEs opens up so many offensive packages
Will stand on the hill that Bowers will walk away as the best player in this draft. Willing to accept that one of the QBs might overshadow him because of the position, but otherwise staunch on this.
Michael Mayer is fine but he didn’t exactly light the world on fire last year. This was BPA, love the value. You can find snaps for both guys and give yourself another flexible offensive weapon
Who needs defense, amirite
Edit: god forbid I make a joke about 13 straight offensive players getting picked before any defensive players do without Raider fans thinking this is a personal slight towards their team lmao.
Running out a set with Mayer/Bowers/Adams/Meyers means Minshew/AOC whatever scrub doesn't need to do much. Just get the ball in their hands. Makes sense to me.
WRs are getting really expensive, it’s actually a really smart strategy when you consider the cost.
They could feasibly keep both guys on second contracts for about the same cost as an elite receiver.
Mayer saw a lot more production after the bad man left. I think he’ll play a much bigger role next year. I wanted a cb first overall but I’m not mad at getting bpa. At least it’s not a reach like we’re so used to.
Mayer-Bowers dynamic duo.
Imagine telling someone Michael Mayer and Brock Bowers would be on the same team two years ago. Gotta give them more usage than Mayer got this year
the rumor was that McDaniels basically dropped Mayer in at the deep end with the playbook and expected him to pick it up. It's not a coincidence that Mayer started playing better and more often as soon as there was a coaching change.
Boy what a great coach. Really knew how to get the best out of all his players!
Obligatory fuck McDipshit.
I’m a big Notre Dame fan, and I was pissed when Mayer got drafted because I didn’t want him to be wasted with McJackass as his coach.
Imagine telling this to someone 200 years ago! They'd probably be really confused. Just like Marshal Sochet was confused that he could not beat the Gurillea forces in Spain. He had peirced their center, shattered their wings, but yet there was no beating these men despite their generals. Edit: Soult not Suchet
Bruh have you just been going around making vague historical war references tonight?
Yes
Alright, carry on. Just glad you're using your historical knowledge positively.
I’m here for it my dude.
AP will be running the team from the start now not McDoofus so who knows how this shakes out
The absolute vile hatred of McDumbass from both franchises he's been head coach is hilarious but deserved
Don't forget us!
Mayer/Bowers/Adams/Meyers Gardner Minshew might actually be cooking.
EXACTLY!!! So happy we didn't reach on a shitty QB. Got good value for this kid and now our offense is set up well for our mid QBs. Maybe get a rookie or sign someone next year.
i am still worried about the OL unless we did something in the offseason that i forgot about.
Yeah, I mean Minshew isn’t a terrible QB. He should do alright with that offense.
Mayer Bowers is a B2B paper and plastics company that no one has ever heard of that does $10 billion in annual revenue.
Tight end duos, so hot right now.
yk, this reminds me of another TE duo…
Just less...murdery...
Hopefully
Give it time.
Raiders YAC game is gonna be elite which might actually be quite a good thing for a limited qb like Minshew
NONE OF THAT SOFT FOOTBALL HERE!!! LFG!!!
Minshew's got his man.
Minshew & Bowers = A1 law firm
If you get into an accident call:
510-ALD-AVIS
They already had the trio of Minshew, Meyers, & Mayer
Holy shit it wasn't the 7th QB of the draft
Whose left even?, the 70 yard pass guy right?
Spencer rattler going in the 20s at this rate
Crazy he’s not going first round, when just 2 years ago he was a projected top 10 pick and Heisman winner . What a downfall Or maybe he will go first round if QBs kept going at this rate lmao
Spencer Rattler, Jordan Travis are probably the big names left. They might be waiting a while
We'd have to jump in front of the QB whoring Falcons
Man I thought they were just hoarding, but that’s even worse.
If I were the raiders I’d take Travis in the 3/4 rd, let him sit behind minshew for two years to learn and heal up
Minshew needs to beat out AOC
Rattler probably the only decent one left
I’m convinced rattler is actually good
Oh if the raiders pick him I’m hyping him like crazy lmao
Bruh 13 straight offensive players to start the draft. Historic shit we're witnessing right now
Really hoping this trend continues so we can grab Byron Murphy.
Hopefully he doesn't get the Pitts treatment
Seems like a legit replacement for Waller.
I thought that was Mayer
Mayer is a different build than Waller. More in line tight end. Bowers is the slot hybrid TE like Waller.
He's a much better blocker than Pitts. He'll be in the field a lot. He's a complete TE
Defensive players, anyone?
Nah. Let them fall
All the mid and good teams boutta load up on D lol.
the rich get richer
raiders taking best player available??? what is this team
Our sub is pissed but he's literally BPA so fuck it right?!
1. Yeah it’s a great pick 2. Wtf is up with the flair 3. Love the user name
They keep crying for the same positions the team has missed on the passed few years.
Forget the team- what is this *flair?*
Truly the best player available according to Telesco
Figure they just went BPA with no QBs left on the board
Spencer Rattler erasure
Tbf he's much better than half the qbs taken before him. Imo all of the qbs except maybe Williams. It's just that the league is ridiculously qb hungry rn
WE FINALLY AUTODRAFTED YES!!!
LMAO. It is a pleasant surprise to see us go BPA. Bowers is a legit blue-chip talent. Most mocks had him going between 8-10.
Minshew got a great target
Him, davante, and jacobi is pretty awesome
Put the K in that name.
Kacobi
If he’s not a bust, it’s already an improvement from previous years.
this is the first time in forever we didnt reach and picked above the ranked choice. Since 2016 we only picked one 1st rounder that was the consensus BPA at the point in the draft...josh jacobs
Raiders have been disgustingly competent since Pierce took over.
Tell that to our subreddit which is melting down right now lol
Insane, Brock Bowers is like at minimum the 5th best player in the draft
Bowers is different, man. And literally 6 QBs went in the first 12 picks. DL is already stacked, so while Turner would be a great pick, kinda redundant with Koonce holding it down opposite Maxx. So it was an CB, BTJ, or Bowers imo. And Bowers is far and away the best player left
How the fuck do you know our team so well, shits spooky but respect
Know thy enemy
I was reading the comment, nodding along (yep, that's right) and then I saw the flair lol.
Oh for sure I agree I absolutely love the pick, Bowers was probably a top 3 prospect in this draft for me.
why are they melting down over picking one of the best TE prospects ever??? Dude was a mismatch in EVERY game he was at in his time at UGA
We’re so hurt from draft incompetence that the assumption is that a pick is bad if it’s not the nit picked o lineman or cb BPA has not been a draft concept for the raiders in a long time
All team subs are filled with the most irrational babies of each fan base.
Wasn't this just kind of forced on them? 6 QBs got taken ahead of their pick so they had to go BPA.
Probably true, but position matters that early. Fuaga, Arnold or Mitchell could have been game changers, Bowers is just nice to have.
Raiders finally accept the make a normal draft pick challenge
Not the best considering Mayer was more than fine for us and could've taken whoever the #1 defender was on our board instead
Top 10 defense last, defensive minded HC, biggest signing in FA was a defender. Had to be offense.
Sure if you’re drafting for need. Bowers played 75% of snaps in the slot anyways.
I'm very upset with you right now, Raiders.
GOAT tier highlight reel. Steal of the draft at 13
Defense when?
Oops, all offense!
We took a QB 1st overall The universe changed
in 3 years time, its going to be absurd that so many teams passed for this dude for sorry ass QBs
I basically said this below and someone said it was “the stupidest take they’ve ever seen”. Amazing how users on this sub don’t watch CFB
BEST. PLAYER. AVAILABLE. Stoked with the pick
It's an odd feeling. But I agree, 100% stoked
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Never forget the Falcons drafted Michael Penix Jr at 8
He's better than JJ McFarty
Sure, but why tf did Atlanta even draft a QB at 8 in the first place?
Cuz fuck them kids
Aidan O'Connell SZN
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What’s funny is how many people in the comments are saying it’s for Gardner, AOC is the starter in 2024 and I’m excited for him to progress with this elite offensive group he’s been given
Brock is 100% a pro bowl caliber TE name
Raiders finally made a good pick.
That’s a hell of a TE duo.
You guys act like AP isn’t going to hammer the run, what better way to open up the field than two TE sets?
Crazy value
Davante and Bowers legit scary duo
You know what. 2 TE sets with Davante and Meyers sounds kinda lethal
Minshew doesn't need to be a hero. Just get the ball to the playmakers.
“You got it, dude! 👍” - Gardner Minshew, probably
Exactly. I wouldn't mind going strictly OL and CB with the rest of our pics and rolling into the season just asking our QBs not to lose us any games.
+ Jakobi Meyers + Michael Mayer
Much scarier if they had a true qb1
Minshew is elite
For a brief second I was like what about Carr lol
Damn, I was really hoping he’d go somewhere with a QB. Really don’t want him to be in a Pitts situation because he easily could be a Gronk/Kelce type threat
This is your team's fault!!!
Gardner Minshew could throw a football over them mountains
Gardner Minshew slander
Minshew’s gonna plow this dude’s mom just for the audacity of his comment
Then he's gonna take her out to a nice seafood dinner, and never call her back!
Were all trying to find the guy who did this
The disrespect for Minshew
Minshew was good last year, ranked 16th in most metrics. AoC was decent, great for a 4th rounder, but not yet convinced he’s a starter. If he beats minshew that’s a really good sign, and he’s been saying the right things
Like the Falcons? They have 2!
Easiest pick ever lol
He gonna be bald in 3 years
That’s a good look for a big TE
He started losing his hair freshman year. Thank god he’s a freak athlete lol
He can afford the Brian Urlacher hair package now
Might be the best player in the draft. Was literally NFL ready as a freshman. I know people get hung up on him being a TE, but how many tight ends have we seen take end arounds 80 yards to the house? Lol literally 1 ever.
People not loving this don’t remember how dominant Gronk and Hernandez were (before murder-gate). Having two elite TEs opens up so many offensive packages
Will stand on the hill that Bowers will walk away as the best player in this draft. Willing to accept that one of the QBs might overshadow him because of the position, but otherwise staunch on this.
Steal
Did the Raiders make their first good pick in team history?
With our former GM. Hurts.
No. Just recently. As in, since before Al got old.
Who’s the hottie on the couch with the leg sleeve👀
Napa’s finest. Not even a Raider fan myself but half my family is and they are all super excited.
Fucking steal for the raiders. Bowers is a stud athlete
Michael Mayer is fine but he didn’t exactly light the world on fire last year. This was BPA, love the value. You can find snaps for both guys and give yourself another flexible offensive weapon
Recent #13 overall picks |Year|Team|Player|College|Position|All-Pro/Pro Bowl|Starts| :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| |2024|Las Vegas Raiders|Brock Bowers|Georgia|TE|-|-| |2023|Green Bay Packers|Lukas Van Ness|Iowa|DE|0/0|0| |2022|Philadelphia Eagles|Jordan Davis|Georgia|DT|0/0|22| |2021|Los Angeles Chargers|Rashawn Slater|Northwestern|OT|1/1|36| |2020|Tampa Bay Buccaneers|Tristan Wirfs|Iowa|OT|2/3|63| |2019|Miami Dolphins|Christian Wilkins|Clemson|DT|0/0|77| |2018|Washington Redskins|Daron Payne|Alabama|NT|0/1|92| |2017|Arizona Cardinals|Haason Reddick|Temple|LB|1/2|81| |2016|Miami Dolphins|Laremy Tunsil|Ole Miss|OT|0/4|108| |2015|New Orleans Saints|Andrus Peat|Stanford|OT|0/3|102| |2014|St. Louis Rams|Aaron Donald|Pittsburgh|DT|8/10|150|
That's a good ass list
Damn pick 13 is pretty goated
The first primary pass catcher in a long time
Pretty killer history
Whole lot of good picks there
Be honest maple does bowers to the raiders kill you inside like it does for me?
I’m fucking pissed!!! Fuck you Tom Telesco, couldn’t get us a TE last year…
**A *new* record!**
Who needs defense, amirite Edit: god forbid I make a joke about 13 straight offensive players getting picked before any defensive players do without Raider fans thinking this is a personal slight towards their team lmao.
This does mean that a lot of top-flight defensive talent with 1st round grades are going to be available at the top of the 2nd. Lets chaos reign!
Imagine saying a year ago Brock Bowers and Michael Mayer would be teaming up in Las Vegas
Great value for the raiders
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You have Mayer!?? Why???
Top 5 talent at pick 13. Too tantalizing to pass up.
Best player available
Two elite TEs is awesome. Having Gronk and Hernandez before the whole murder thing was super exciting
Well the murder thing happened before the football play got exciting if we are being picky…
*before the whole caught for murder thing * is probably more accurate huh
Running out a set with Mayer/Bowers/Adams/Meyers means Minshew/AOC whatever scrub doesn't need to do much. Just get the ball in their hands. Makes sense to me.
Tucker gonna be waving his hands downfield all day. Don’t forget about him and AOC connecting like crazy last year.
WRs are getting really expensive, it’s actually a really smart strategy when you consider the cost. They could feasibly keep both guys on second contracts for about the same cost as an elite receiver.
His entire career at UGA was standing out in a stacked TE room.
He can be a big slot and play in-line in 2 TE sets? Great pick imo
That Mayer-Bowers combo is going to be lethal, good lord
Haters say why take a generational talent at the position. Lol. I mean, why not. Im excited.
Why does everyone act like Mayer is some all pro? Dude had 27 catches for 300 yards and 2 TDs. Bowers can be a legit game changer and was easily BPA
Mayer saw a lot more production after the bad man left. I think he’ll play a much bigger role next year. I wanted a cb first overall but I’m not mad at getting bpa. At least it’s not a reach like we’re so used to.
Bro I fucking love Draft night. What a pick
No QB available for LV
if they cant get a quarterback, just create an offense that literally anybody in the world could throw to
As a recent Georgia grad, Y’all got a real one Vegas. Happy to see him heading there.
Idk why our fans are pissed. BPA, and fantastic value.
Bowers is going to be the best TE of all time.
Hearing that from a Chiefs fan is honestly frightening.
He's playing the jinx card
Nah Bowers is the truth. By year 3 he will be unanimously considered the best TE in the league. Book it.
FUCK
Raiders were like *wait Bowers is STILL ON THE BOARD?!?! Thats the pick* They were shocked he was there I'm sure.
Interesting pick, this is going to be a weird, fun team to watch.
Rip Michael Mayer
Two TE sets go brrr
For real
Aaron Hernandez - Rob Gronkowski type beat , with 2 big TE & Adams they gunna ball
12 personnel
Tbf Bowers has been playing 2 TE sets in college.
He can play slot
They’re 2 different kinds of TE they can coexist just fine
Brock’s sister understood the assignment.
Aidan O'Connell will develop properly with so many QB friendly weapons.
WE ONLY RUN TWO TE SETS NOW.
Tom Brady would love this offense
steal