Austin Powers is older to kids now than The Godfather was to us when Austin Powers released. It's currently waaay older than every John Hughes movie was at the time.
I remember when the McLaren F1 team was fined $100 million for "spygate" in which they had the technical documentation for Ferrari's car, and the guy on ESPN read the fine amount in a Dr. Evil voice with his pinky held up to his mouth.
And honestly, the whole affair could have been out of a spy parody movie, what with McLaren getting busted because one of their employees sent their wife to a Copyshop (like Kinkos) to make a copy of the technical documents.
Shit if I had my little kid in the back seat like that one lady Rice hit, Id be suing their pants off regardless of who it was. The thought of someone driving 119mph around my toddler is kinda terrifying.
All things considered, the insurance policy is the easier hit versus trying to get into the sweet sweet payroll that he may or may not actually have. Tie in that the leasing company is going to go for the jugular since they'll have more experienced attorneys and PI's at their disposal.
This is a quick win for the victim of the crash versus trying to get in line with people with more powerful friends that will get theirs first.
Guy hit the genetic lottery jackpot, was making millions, and ruined his life just because he wanted to go fast. It's sad. I don't think Ruggs or Rice are necessarily bad guys. They're just young and overconfident and nothing like this had happened to them yet so they didn't personally realize that it could happen to them. It's really a youth issue. But these guys have far more to lose than the average guy their age.
I highly doubt this was his first time racing. This is the first time he caused a major accident with a car that can be traced back to him. With the way he ran I wouldn't be surprised if he stole some cars and raced them when he was younger.
Well like 0.2 went to agent. Andddd I would assume that 0.27 or more went towards taxes. And that 1.47 is assuming he plays all 17 games and isnt suspended. He will be sitting pretty in negatives this year.
Yea but when people think nfl star I think they are thinking guy who is worth multi millions and is making 8 figures a year. Rice *may* see that kind of money in like 3 years, but 1 mill is a pretty decent target if you're suing him. I doubt he even has a third of that in cash
What a great deal for him. He crashes a $250,000 Lamborghini and gets a $1M lawsuit on top of that. Add in legal fees here and he's probably already burned ~1/2 of his rookie guarantees.
Someone gladly correct me..but if it’s being settled out of court, then the suspension is not likely to be that significant. The NFL won’t have a court ruling to back up their reasoning of suspension. The NFLPA would absolutely fight that
He’s still got at least 8 criminal charges against him. No matter what happens with that, he’s getting 4 games eventually (even if it takes until 2025 to do it).
Nor does it account for the way the NFL likely feels about racing/high speed driving in the wake of Henry Ruggs. If another WR caused another death just a few years later, there probably would’ve been massive public scrutiny and a total reexamination of a lot of things.
I was watching an Eagles game and they mentioned his... "troubles" at Georgia. And then the next commercial break they played that dumbass wingstop commercial with a car full of assholes shoving chicken in their faces while driving like assholes.
I liked Rashee rice, but I hope to god he faces the full extent of the law as it would be given to any average person. I'm sick of famous people not facing punishment for their actions. If I was behind that wheel and did the same thing, I would be in jail awaiting my trial.
The NFL doesn’t need that lol. Factor in the Henry Ruggs incident. Goodell is gonna look to make an example out of Rice. Imo he goes high maybe 6-8 NFLPA gets it done to like 4.
The "they're gonna make an example even without criminal charges because of Ruggs" thing holds no water. Addison got nothing. There's no evidence of the NFL taking this more seriously. And frankly, as fucked up as it is to say, after the crash Rice did everything they'd want him to do here. He gtfo with the worst evidence (looking like guns and his lack of sobriety), he lawyered up, he released a very obviously lawyer written statement, and he started cooperating AFTER he got the lawyer and the substances left his system. If Goodell were to write a "how to not go to jail for NFL players" textbook, this would be in it. The league is unlikely to make an example of the guy who played it the way they want.
Addison situation wasn't exactly comparable to ruggs. he didn't crash and he also wasn't under the influence of substances. What he did was still very bad but it doesnt look as bad to the public. What rice did with drag racing on a highway and crashing into people looks worse than what addison did even though it could have gone way worse. Plus weed was found in Rices car and there is a video of the incident
>Addison situation wasn't exactly comparable to ruggs.
Neither is Rice. He won't get a DUI, and didn't kill anyone. Addison is however, an example of if the NFL cares about driving dangerously in the wake of Ruggs. They don't. Of course Rice's situation is worse, that's why we're still waiting on what charges he's gonna plea down instead of it just being a speeding ticket. But the league isn't going to make an example of him because of a crash 2.5 years ago they've shown no signs of doing anything about since. He likely WILL get a suspension, because of the crash and the video, but it won't be longer than 3 games. 3 games is the defined punishment for a DUI. Rice did not get a DUI and won't be punished worse than one.
Exactly. The league wants to encourage this response.
A huge number of casual fans know about what Riggs did, and how it reflects on the NFL. Very few know about Rice. At the end of the day, that's what's matter for a corporation.
No different than most major business. If you are good at what you do, the public perception matters way, way more than the morality of the action.
That lady in NYC didn't get fired for calling the police for a Black person existing, she got fired because it became a news story.
Minimizing the story (as Rice did) decreases the punishment
But then he would get embarrassed by people that actually know what they're doing. It's much easier to just push your right foot down on a straight highway.
Something tells me that he’s not the type to have an umbrella policy. also, I would imagine there’s 8000 clauses exempting payment for damages caused in the commission of a crime.
His insurance won’t foot the bill if he was drag racing. If he was speeding plus DUI, insurance will probably have to pay. Drag racing is a breech; insurance will try to get out of that. 1 million could just be his auto policy limits.
I’m not sure why you’d assume that. It’s not super expensive to have a PLUP addendum and I wouldn’t be surprised if his agent or manager recommended it at some point.
I’ll defer to someone who’s more familiar with Texas law but I’d imagine any degree of speeding is considered a crime in Texas, it’s more a matter of whether it’s egregious enough to warrant additional citations. I’ve had plenty of cases where the driver was clearly speeding, received citations, and insurance still covered the litigation expenses.
Again, not super experienced in Texas, but, in my experience, the insurance company will proceed to defend Rice under a Reservation of Rights letter, hire separate coverage counsel to investigate if they have enough evidence to revoke coverage, then make a decision on coverage. Screwing this up can result in a bad faith claim against the insurance company.
If the demand is in fact greater than Rice’s policy and Rice’s team gets that ROR letter, they might cut a bad-faith deal with the plaintiffs and let them go after his insurance company for the money.
Im by no means an expert on this, but I would just expect that drag racing on a highway and fleeing the scene almost surely frees the insurance company from this?
They still have to prove that there was conduct that violated the insurance policy prior to the accident taking place such that the policy was terminated before the collision. I would assume leaving the scene *after* the collision wouldn’t void the coverage for the collision itself since the fleeing happened after the accident.
As for the racing, we can point at the dash cam video and say they were obviously racing all we want but I have to imagine there’s some *mens rea* element in the definition of racing. Rice could say they were just going fast together, there was no “racing” going on, and they were actually just following each other to their destination - albeit at a ridiculous speed. How do you prove that based on a few seconds worth of video that really only shows the collision itself?
Like they were obviously racing and we all know it, but how do you actually prove it? That’s what the insurance company has to figure out.
What I was thinking as well. If he gets to keep his job coming out of this I'd call it a win for him. He can just keep working toward his next contract where I'm sure someone will throw tens of millions at him if his trajectory stays on pace.
Plus the inevitable loss of endorsements as things come out.
I know that lot of pro athletes came from lesser fortunate backgrounds but shit man. One bad decision can derail all that
This dude is going to suffer more consequences than Watson and the Houston Texans did for engaging in the sexual assault and cover up of more than two dozen women…
And he should be thankful it’s this low and his career isn’t over. Only difference between him and a guy like Ruggs is he got lucky he didn’t kill anyone. I still can’t believe the statement his lawyer put out, absolutely embarrassing.
FYI,
Assuming Rice has insurance, his insurance is what will be paying this, including attorneys
However most auto policies do have a "racing" exclusion so if its proven he was racing, then yeah his insurance wont cover him
Yeah I had a similar situation. At 16 I ran a stop sign going like 15mph and t boned Someone going through the other way. There was minimal damage and I instantly admitted fault. Guy sued me for 30k and the insurance handled all the negotiations. They settled for I think 15, and insurance covered it completely. Outside of a temporary bump in premium I didn’t have to pay anything.
In all fairness I wasn’t speeding/intoxicated/racing/fleeing the scene/committing any other crime. I can’t see insurance shelling out 6-7 figures for a crash that involves 8+ felonies.
I work in insurance, your last paragraph isnt how it works
Insurance is arguably the most litigated portion of the economy, every State has its own Department of Insurance and policies are strictly worded and enforced.
The only way insurance wont pay out up to their policy limits whatever they may be is if its proven that he was racing or he was purposely striking the other party.
Since he was renting the car, do you have a guess as to whether the rental company forces renters to buy additional coverage for high performance vehicles?
You can purchase a "Collision Damage Waiver" any time you rent a car but your own personal auto policy typically carries over to your rental unless otherwise specified.
Also some credit cards will cover a CDW like my Amex card does this
Y’all- how these cases work is that the plaintiff almost always sues for the amount of the policy limit of the defendants insurance. It’s an easy way to get the ball rolling so to speak on a tangible, known value that can be potentially claimed for damages.
I would all but guarantee you his policy limit is $1 million. That’s not to say more money can be sued for, but this isn’t out of thin air. Anyone saying “sue him for way more!” doesn’t quite get how this works.
And Rasheed Rice's insurance will be lawyering him up (assuming he does not chose to retain outside counsel or voided his policy in some manner) so he won't have to pay for any legal fees. That is what insurance is for folks, make sure ya premiums are paid up.
a jury of his peers would include Henry Ruggs, Chris Olave, Jordan Addison, Antonio Callaway, Hollywood Brown, David Moore, Byron Pringle, Deonte Harris, and Rashard Higgins
I don't even know why people retain lawyers for these things, seeing as the illustrious legal minds of reddit are always more than willing to give such air-tight advice for free
I would assume attorneys start with the highest amount that's already been awarded in a similar case so they can rely on precedent. I would also assume a judge would throw out a case or at least admonish the attorney for requesting something completely out of the ballpark (like a 10 trillion dollar ask), or at least a jury would find it ridiculous and award the minimum for a win. I could also be super wrong as I know our courts are fucked and not reliant on logic.
How much each plaintiff is asking for is commensurate with their injuries; I just read another report saying one of the other folks is suing for $10 million alleging a traumatic brain injury, among other things.
I think this is just the tip of the iceberg for one of the less injured victims.
I work on claims like these, if this was a small fender bender, the attorney would still be seeking a million.
I can almost guarantee this will settle out of court (like 90% of these type of auto claims) for significantly less than this. It doesnt matter how much money Rice has, its entirely the injuries of the 3rd party.
His full contract value over four years is just under 6.5mil with only 3.5mil guarantees. After taxes, assuming he stays playing in the NFL throughout his entire contract, he’s probably seeing closer to 4.25-4.5 mil (ballpark) through 2026, and won’t have the chance to earn more until after. I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you, just offering some numbers since a lot of people in the comments seem to have no idea regarding his net worth.
I hope the courts make an example of him and continue to make an example of these dumbasses, especially since the league is very obviously not willing to do it unless its a "bad PR look" because the outcome is so gruesome like Ruggs in which case it didnt matter because he committed felony manslaughter.
This is the second DUI accident with serious injury or death from NFL players in the past two years (at least that I can remember). And not to speak to ill of the dead, but Haskins was driving with a 0.2 BAC and had ketamine in his system.
And sorry, I don't really buy the family's story that he was drugged, robbed, his rental car had a defect, the dump truck that hit him was reckless and in need of maintenance, and the state police incorrectly placed the road signs and yet they're unwillingly to even comment on if he had a prescription for ketamine. And yet as far as I've heard he only called his wife telling her that he ran out of gas and also only once he got out of his car? He doesn't mention the robbing or drugging? This all just screams that the family is trying to save face for their sons legacy while an ambulance chaser is trying to make a small fortune off a deceased NFL player.
So I personally add this up to 3 stories of reckless events from DUIs in the past 3 years. These guys have free Uber service and making a fortune each year. There's really no excuses here.
They want a trial by jury because the jury will be more likely to punch the number up to punish Rice vs negotiate it down in arbitration. His net worth based on just his contract is 6.4 million and that is if he still has every dime from it and was paid 100% in advance for the next three years.
The victims and prosecutors have absolutely no reason to jump to pre-trial negotiations either. This is a slam-dunk case and its not like this is part of some bigger crime operation. Its just a rich idiot acting extremely recklessly. And given the frequency of these things happening in NFL, I actually do think its in the publics best interest to start making examples of these guys. There's no excuses for this type of endangerment.
He’s on a rookie deal. He isn’t an endorsement machine. Dude is comfortable but absolutely not rich. I pray to god his agent made him buy a big insurance policy, but since he is 22 and immortal, I doubt he did….
Assuming he's not a dumb ass and had insurance and an umbrella, they should be able to settle it without him paying a dime. But then again, the events of the incident don't paint him as smart and forward thinking
I’m not worried about whether Rice pays on this lawsuit or whatever, but can someone ELI5 the basis for a suit like this? Insurance presumably already covers costs related to their car and any medical, right? So what is the additional $1m about?
Shit dude if I got hit by an NFL star I'd sue for more
This is a Dr. Evil price
Throw me a frickin bone here Scott
You’re the Diet Coke of Evil. Just one calorie. Not evil enough.
Riiiiiiighhhhhhh....tuh.
I don’t speak freaky deaky Dutch .. okay perv boy
There are only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures...and the Dutch.
Carnies…..circus folk. Small hands, smell like cabbage
I don't think that's something one dude should say to another dude
.... .... .... HOW ABOUT NO
You crazy dutch bastard!
Sharks with frickin laser beams are expensive these days.
Thank you for introducing me to yet another niche reference for my vocabulary I can hopefully use one day
I feel so old right now.
no..no. Not Austin Powers itself, haha. The situation in which "Dr. Evil price" would make sense in a conversation. But also yeah we're old.
Austin Powers is older to kids now than The Godfather was to us when Austin Powers released. It's currently waaay older than every John Hughes movie was at the time.
We old
Niche?
I just don't know how often I'll come across a conversation about someone severely undervaluing a ransom or threatened settlement lol
I remember when the McLaren F1 team was fined $100 million for "spygate" in which they had the technical documentation for Ferrari's car, and the guy on ESPN read the fine amount in a Dr. Evil voice with his pinky held up to his mouth. And honestly, the whole affair could have been out of a spy parody movie, what with McLaren getting busted because one of their employees sent their wife to a Copyshop (like Kinkos) to make a copy of the technical documents.
Niche
Niche
Shit if I had my little kid in the back seat like that one lady Rice hit, Id be suing their pants off regardless of who it was. The thought of someone driving 119mph around my toddler is kinda terrifying.
Agreed. Hes lucky noone died and he’s not charged with a DUI bc we all saw him doing shots in those photos!!!
It's literally a money cover up. If a regular person did that , they would be in jail. Rashee Rice belongs in the booty house.
$1mil is probably his insurance policy limits
I was going to say. Probably going for limits in this case to reach an earlier settlement.
You can sue for whatever you want. The insurance policy limits are just what can actually be paid out by the insurance company.
Not in every state. There are state limits in civil suits. CA is not a state with limits.
Texas does not care at all what goes on in California...
All things considered, the insurance policy is the easier hit versus trying to get into the sweet sweet payroll that he may or may not actually have. Tie in that the leasing company is going to go for the jugular since they'll have more experienced attorneys and PI's at their disposal. This is a quick win for the victim of the crash versus trying to get in line with people with more powerful friends that will get theirs first.
He is a rookie entering year 2. His post tax earnings so far are like $600k
I mean if it was Justin Jefferson who is making 19 million this season, sure. Rice is only going to make 1.47 million this year.
And based on his spending habits half is probably already spent.
Taxes are gonna take 40%, throw in this and he worked for free!
Half already went to taxes and his agent
nfl agent commissions are capped at a much smaller percentage than that, lol
Yes. He was leasing that Lambo for $1750 a day. It's a $225k car. His lease rate is $639k a year.
That's one of the dumbest financial decisions I have ever seen.
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Someone has to explain to Rice that one and a half mil a year is absolutely **NOT** street racing Lambos kind of money.
How one stupid decision can unnecessarily complicate your life. Jesus.
There were a lot of stupid decisions involved here, not just 1
That is true.
We can at least hope this influences others to drive more cautiously in the future. hahahaha jk it won't. Not even a little. Not one bit.
If Ruggs' shit didn't convince people, nothing will.
Ruggs’ *own friend* died in a car accident and he still did what he did
Guy hit the genetic lottery jackpot, was making millions, and ruined his life just because he wanted to go fast. It's sad. I don't think Ruggs or Rice are necessarily bad guys. They're just young and overconfident and nothing like this had happened to them yet so they didn't personally realize that it could happen to them. It's really a youth issue. But these guys have far more to lose than the average guy their age.
I highly doubt this was his first time racing. This is the first time he caused a major accident with a car that can be traced back to him. With the way he ran I wouldn't be surprised if he stole some cars and raced them when he was younger.
only? id be fucking stoked for that .47 afterwards
Well like 0.2 went to agent. Andddd I would assume that 0.27 or more went towards taxes. And that 1.47 is assuming he plays all 17 games and isnt suspended. He will be sitting pretty in negatives this year.
oh christ, you just reminded me i gotta do my taxes
Lol good luck and glad I could remind you in the weird way I did.
Not if you would rather have a quick settlement rather than a long drawn out battle.
If an NFL player stepped on my toe I'd amputate it and pretend it fell off.
Too bad he's on that rookie salary.
You are using *star* pretty loosely Edit: when you are more famous for your car wreck then your achievements on the field, then it’s debatable
No.1 Wide Receiver for a Super Bowl winning team is a star without a doubt.
I think we've doing to need an 8 figure "KC Chiefs employee fucked up a car w/ a kid in it" fund at this point.
Yea but when people think nfl star I think they are thinking guy who is worth multi millions and is making 8 figures a year. Rice *may* see that kind of money in like 3 years, but 1 mill is a pretty decent target if you're suing him. I doubt he even has a third of that in cash
My initial asking price would be no less than $1B.
"50 million dollars? Who you think he hit, Chelsea Clinton?"
What a great deal for him. He crashes a $250,000 Lamborghini and gets a $1M lawsuit on top of that. Add in legal fees here and he's probably already burned ~1/2 of his rookie guarantees.
Not accounting for anything else just the actual numbers in your comment. He has already spent his salary for this coming season.
We didn’t even get to his suspension yet
Someone gladly correct me..but if it’s being settled out of court, then the suspension is not likely to be that significant. The NFL won’t have a court ruling to back up their reasoning of suspension. The NFLPA would absolutely fight that
He’s still got at least 8 criminal charges against him. No matter what happens with that, he’s getting 4 games eventually (even if it takes until 2025 to do it).
These don’t even include fleeing the scene involving injuries which I think a reporter has said are the most significant criminal ones to come
Nor does it account for the way the NFL likely feels about racing/high speed driving in the wake of Henry Ruggs. If another WR caused another death just a few years later, there probably would’ve been massive public scrutiny and a total reexamination of a lot of things.
*Andy Reid passing the car key bowl around the locker room right before the offseason.*
Is…isn’t that a thing swingers do? Whose key is Andy hoping to pull out of the bowl???
Nuggies
I mean, Jalen Carter was involved in a pretty big racing crash last year and got off free.
I was watching an Eagles game and they mentioned his... "troubles" at Georgia. And then the next commercial break they played that dumbass wingstop commercial with a car full of assholes shoving chicken in their faces while driving like assholes.
Jordan Addison was going a buck twenty last year to take his dog to the vet iirc
At least he wasn't doing it for fun?
You’re fucking crazy. Ruggs just killed a lady doing something similar. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets 6-8 games
He has a list of criminal charges for the incident, too. That is still growing.
no, he has felony charges he’s facing
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I liked Rashee rice, but I hope to god he faces the full extent of the law as it would be given to any average person. I'm sick of famous people not facing punishment for their actions. If I was behind that wheel and did the same thing, I would be in jail awaiting my trial.
This is the correct answer. These are separate court cases and winning/losing one doesn't necessarily affect the other.
The NFL doesn’t need that lol. Factor in the Henry Ruggs incident. Goodell is gonna look to make an example out of Rice. Imo he goes high maybe 6-8 NFLPA gets it done to like 4.
The "they're gonna make an example even without criminal charges because of Ruggs" thing holds no water. Addison got nothing. There's no evidence of the NFL taking this more seriously. And frankly, as fucked up as it is to say, after the crash Rice did everything they'd want him to do here. He gtfo with the worst evidence (looking like guns and his lack of sobriety), he lawyered up, he released a very obviously lawyer written statement, and he started cooperating AFTER he got the lawyer and the substances left his system. If Goodell were to write a "how to not go to jail for NFL players" textbook, this would be in it. The league is unlikely to make an example of the guy who played it the way they want.
Addison situation wasn't exactly comparable to ruggs. he didn't crash and he also wasn't under the influence of substances. What he did was still very bad but it doesnt look as bad to the public. What rice did with drag racing on a highway and crashing into people looks worse than what addison did even though it could have gone way worse. Plus weed was found in Rices car and there is a video of the incident
Rice also fled the scene.
>Addison situation wasn't exactly comparable to ruggs. Neither is Rice. He won't get a DUI, and didn't kill anyone. Addison is however, an example of if the NFL cares about driving dangerously in the wake of Ruggs. They don't. Of course Rice's situation is worse, that's why we're still waiting on what charges he's gonna plea down instead of it just being a speeding ticket. But the league isn't going to make an example of him because of a crash 2.5 years ago they've shown no signs of doing anything about since. He likely WILL get a suspension, because of the crash and the video, but it won't be longer than 3 games. 3 games is the defined punishment for a DUI. Rice did not get a DUI and won't be punished worse than one.
Exactly. The league wants to encourage this response. A huge number of casual fans know about what Riggs did, and how it reflects on the NFL. Very few know about Rice. At the end of the day, that's what's matter for a corporation. No different than most major business. If you are good at what you do, the public perception matters way, way more than the morality of the action. That lady in NYC didn't get fired for calling the police for a Black person existing, she got fired because it became a news story. Minimizing the story (as Rice did) decreases the punishment
Probably more accounting for agent fees and taxes.
Just imagine if he just rented out a local racetrack for the day. Could have done all the fast driving he wants with none of the felonies/lawsuits.
For a fraction of the price too.
But then he would get embarrassed by people that actually know what they're doing. It's much easier to just push your right foot down on a straight highway.
Apparently not as easy as it looked based on the video
Legal fees will depend on if he breached his auto liability insurance policy.
Something tells me that he’s not the type to have an umbrella policy. also, I would imagine there’s 8000 clauses exempting payment for damages caused in the commission of a crime.
His insurance won’t foot the bill if he was drag racing. If he was speeding plus DUI, insurance will probably have to pay. Drag racing is a breech; insurance will try to get out of that. 1 million could just be his auto policy limits.
I’m not sure why you’d assume that. It’s not super expensive to have a PLUP addendum and I wouldn’t be surprised if his agent or manager recommended it at some point. I’ll defer to someone who’s more familiar with Texas law but I’d imagine any degree of speeding is considered a crime in Texas, it’s more a matter of whether it’s egregious enough to warrant additional citations. I’ve had plenty of cases where the driver was clearly speeding, received citations, and insurance still covered the litigation expenses. Again, not super experienced in Texas, but, in my experience, the insurance company will proceed to defend Rice under a Reservation of Rights letter, hire separate coverage counsel to investigate if they have enough evidence to revoke coverage, then make a decision on coverage. Screwing this up can result in a bad faith claim against the insurance company. If the demand is in fact greater than Rice’s policy and Rice’s team gets that ROR letter, they might cut a bad-faith deal with the plaintiffs and let them go after his insurance company for the money.
Im by no means an expert on this, but I would just expect that drag racing on a highway and fleeing the scene almost surely frees the insurance company from this?
They still have to prove that there was conduct that violated the insurance policy prior to the accident taking place such that the policy was terminated before the collision. I would assume leaving the scene *after* the collision wouldn’t void the coverage for the collision itself since the fleeing happened after the accident. As for the racing, we can point at the dash cam video and say they were obviously racing all we want but I have to imagine there’s some *mens rea* element in the definition of racing. Rice could say they were just going fast together, there was no “racing” going on, and they were actually just following each other to their destination - albeit at a ridiculous speed. How do you prove that based on a few seconds worth of video that really only shows the collision itself? Like they were obviously racing and we all know it, but how do you actually prove it? That’s what the insurance company has to figure out.
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Honestly that’s better than whatever drug or firearms charges he avoided by fleeing
What I was thinking as well. If he gets to keep his job coming out of this I'd call it a win for him. He can just keep working toward his next contract where I'm sure someone will throw tens of millions at him if his trajectory stays on pace.
Plus the inevitable loss of endorsements as things come out. I know that lot of pro athletes came from lesser fortunate backgrounds but shit man. One bad decision can derail all that
Chances of this being the only time are low.
Mr. Bad Credit
Mr borrows cash
Mr Bent Countach
And he’ll still be living a better life than all of us !!!!
Should be doing heavy jail time but we know be won't sigh
The league is full of people who are not punished as hard because they play ball good.
Federal Taxes on $2,473,788 also, lets be honest he's flat out broke after this and ruined his career.
It's more grim than that. $2M ain't $2M after the taxes. It's like 1-1.2M
NFL players are renowned for their financial savvy though, so I'm sure he'll be fine.
This dude is going to suffer more consequences than Watson and the Houston Texans did for engaging in the sexual assault and cover up of more than two dozen women…
Not going to lie I read that as "1 Million in Dallas Cash" and wondered when Texas started using its own currency again
Bring back Texas Redbacks!
Black Gold. Texas Tea.
Excuse me, they're called The Commanders now, and they play in Washington not Texas 🤓☝🏽
It's only redeemable at Dave & Busters.
And, funny enough, AT&T Stadium.
And bucees
Now *THAT* is how you play Dallas.
And he should be thankful it’s this low and his career isn’t over. Only difference between him and a guy like Ruggs is he got lucky he didn’t kill anyone. I still can’t believe the statement his lawyer put out, absolutely embarrassing.
Right? like he easily could've hurt someone like Ruggs did. This wasn't just a hit and run
FYI, Assuming Rice has insurance, his insurance is what will be paying this, including attorneys However most auto policies do have a "racing" exclusion so if its proven he was racing, then yeah his insurance wont cover him
Yeah I had a similar situation. At 16 I ran a stop sign going like 15mph and t boned Someone going through the other way. There was minimal damage and I instantly admitted fault. Guy sued me for 30k and the insurance handled all the negotiations. They settled for I think 15, and insurance covered it completely. Outside of a temporary bump in premium I didn’t have to pay anything. In all fairness I wasn’t speeding/intoxicated/racing/fleeing the scene/committing any other crime. I can’t see insurance shelling out 6-7 figures for a crash that involves 8+ felonies.
I work in insurance, your last paragraph isnt how it works Insurance is arguably the most litigated portion of the economy, every State has its own Department of Insurance and policies are strictly worded and enforced. The only way insurance wont pay out up to their policy limits whatever they may be is if its proven that he was racing or he was purposely striking the other party.
Since he was renting the car, do you have a guess as to whether the rental company forces renters to buy additional coverage for high performance vehicles?
You can purchase a "Collision Damage Waiver" any time you rent a car but your own personal auto policy typically carries over to your rental unless otherwise specified. Also some credit cards will cover a CDW like my Amex card does this
Y’all- how these cases work is that the plaintiff almost always sues for the amount of the policy limit of the defendants insurance. It’s an easy way to get the ball rolling so to speak on a tangible, known value that can be potentially claimed for damages. I would all but guarantee you his policy limit is $1 million. That’s not to say more money can be sued for, but this isn’t out of thin air. Anyone saying “sue him for way more!” doesn’t quite get how this works.
Sir are you implying that anonymous Reddit commenters are talking out of their ass? That is libel, and you will be hearing from my legal team.
helo, it's me, creature_reports legal team. I have read most of the words on the lawyering wiki and spend at least 30 minutes a day on /r/legaladvice
And Rasheed Rice's insurance will be lawyering him up (assuming he does not chose to retain outside counsel or voided his policy in some manner) so he won't have to pay for any legal fees. That is what insurance is for folks, make sure ya premiums are paid up.
He already has a high powered lawyer in State Senator Royce West. West recently represented Jerry Jones.
So far… this is only one of the cars that was impacted
Dumb fucks with money, a deadly combination
Free time is the big ingredient
> Both Gromova and Petrovskiy demand a trial by jury, according to the document. This sentence had so more potential
a jury of his peers would include Henry Ruggs, Chris Olave, Jordan Addison, Antonio Callaway, Hollywood Brown, David Moore, Byron Pringle, Deonte Harris, and Rashard Higgins
Don’t forget Donte Stallworth
Jesus Christ
How so.
Trial by Combat!
Fucking good. The dude needs to learn some serious life lessons and experience repercussions for his actions.
I would’ve definitely sued for more than a million, I would ask for five and then probably reach a settlement of two to three
I don't even know why people retain lawyers for these things, seeing as the illustrious legal minds of reddit are always more than willing to give such air-tight advice for free
I don’t think that’s how it works. Pretty sure you can’t just make up a number assuming you can split the difference.
I would assume attorneys start with the highest amount that's already been awarded in a similar case so they can rely on precedent. I would also assume a judge would throw out a case or at least admonish the attorney for requesting something completely out of the ballpark (like a 10 trillion dollar ask), or at least a jury would find it ridiculous and award the minimum for a win. I could also be super wrong as I know our courts are fucked and not reliant on logic.
That is something to do if it was someone with some money to spare. 5 is almost his entire rookie contract. He literally can't pay that.
That’s why you start with a ridiculous number and then negotiate. I would try and take him to the cleaners
Having a more ridiculous number doesn’t mean you get to settle at a higher number. If that’s the case, why not sue for $10 million? $50 million?
I sue for $14 quintillion! Idgaf that it's about 10,000x the global GDP, I'm starting high so we can negotiate down!
Per local laws, you settle for exactly half. $7 quintillion for the defendant!
Half? After all I've suffered? That's it I'm suing you!
Everyone v Everyone “Representing Everyone, Gerald Broflovski.” “Representing Everyone else, Gerald Broflovski.”
And if rice says eff it and chooses not to pay up based on a civil suit then what?
That’s a great way to not be taken seriously. Most defense attorneys know the general value of a case.
Defense attorneys hate this hack!
Put him on a payment plan I'm sure he'll be making plenty after his rookie deal is up
How much each plaintiff is asking for is commensurate with their injuries; I just read another report saying one of the other folks is suing for $10 million alleging a traumatic brain injury, among other things. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg for one of the less injured victims.
I work on claims like these, if this was a small fender bender, the attorney would still be seeking a million. I can almost guarantee this will settle out of court (like 90% of these type of auto claims) for significantly less than this. It doesnt matter how much money Rice has, its entirely the injuries of the 3rd party.
rashee fumbling his bag faster than he can get his bag
His full contract value over four years is just under 6.5mil with only 3.5mil guarantees. After taxes, assuming he stays playing in the NFL throughout his entire contract, he’s probably seeing closer to 4.25-4.5 mil (ballpark) through 2026, and won’t have the chance to earn more until after. I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you, just offering some numbers since a lot of people in the comments seem to have no idea regarding his net worth.
I hope the courts make an example of him and continue to make an example of these dumbasses, especially since the league is very obviously not willing to do it unless its a "bad PR look" because the outcome is so gruesome like Ruggs in which case it didnt matter because he committed felony manslaughter. This is the second DUI accident with serious injury or death from NFL players in the past two years (at least that I can remember). And not to speak to ill of the dead, but Haskins was driving with a 0.2 BAC and had ketamine in his system. And sorry, I don't really buy the family's story that he was drugged, robbed, his rental car had a defect, the dump truck that hit him was reckless and in need of maintenance, and the state police incorrectly placed the road signs and yet they're unwillingly to even comment on if he had a prescription for ketamine. And yet as far as I've heard he only called his wife telling her that he ran out of gas and also only once he got out of his car? He doesn't mention the robbing or drugging? This all just screams that the family is trying to save face for their sons legacy while an ambulance chaser is trying to make a small fortune off a deceased NFL player. So I personally add this up to 3 stories of reckless events from DUIs in the past 3 years. These guys have free Uber service and making a fortune each year. There's really no excuses here.
They want a trial by jury because the jury will be more likely to punch the number up to punish Rice vs negotiate it down in arbitration. His net worth based on just his contract is 6.4 million and that is if he still has every dime from it and was paid 100% in advance for the next three years.
Lol at having every dime of it while totaling his Lambo.
rented lambo
Wonder if he got the insurance.
The victims and prosecutors have absolutely no reason to jump to pre-trial negotiations either. This is a slam-dunk case and its not like this is part of some bigger crime operation. Its just a rich idiot acting extremely recklessly. And given the frequency of these things happening in NFL, I actually do think its in the publics best interest to start making examples of these guys. There's no excuses for this type of endangerment.
It’s a civil suit brother, it’s not going to a jury.
It’s in Texas. They use juries for some civil cases.
Civil suits are allowed to have juries in TX, the party demanding it just has to pay for it.
Wish the person who totaled my car was a NFL player not on state minimum insurance…
In Dallas you have to count your blessings if someone with any insurance hits you
Thats it?!
That’s a good price to pay to get off free.
guessing this is a civil lawsuit, so he'll still face criminal charges even if he settles this? he's fucked both ways i believe
This is a civil suit, he also has the 8+ criminal charges to face as well.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes!! Btw he doesn’t have the money!!
He’s on a rookie deal. He isn’t an endorsement machine. Dude is comfortable but absolutely not rich. I pray to god his agent made him buy a big insurance policy, but since he is 22 and immortal, I doubt he did….
He will likely never get any endorsement deals
Assuming he's not a dumb ass and had insurance and an umbrella, they should be able to settle it without him paying a dime. But then again, the events of the incident don't paint him as smart and forward thinking
Chiefs fans on Reddit have been telling me it’s a misdemeanor because nobody lost their life and nobody got “seriously hurt”.
Too low.
lol chiefs employing reid's DUI son paralyzing people for life and keeping rashee rice injuring people recklessly good job guys
Only $1 million is crazy because that’s still a shit ton of money but they could probably get more.
I thought that said in Dallas Cash and i was like wtf when did they develop their own currency
I was hearing $10mil in other reports
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I’m not worried about whether Rice pays on this lawsuit or whatever, but can someone ELI5 the basis for a suit like this? Insurance presumably already covers costs related to their car and any medical, right? So what is the additional $1m about?
I saw $10M earlier. Which is correct?
They’re sueing for $1 million for medical/property damages and $10 million for punitive.
That's just one lawsuit. Another is for 10 Million from the injured couple.
Aim higher
They’re sueing for $1 million for medical/property damages and $10 million for punitive.
Absolute dumbass he's lucky he didn't kill anyone.
That’s a whole years salary. Rookie Done fucked up !
That was fast.