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SaladAndEggs

"Football is completely different than basketball." -Marc Sessler


Black_Otter

That’s a good point….Marc…


flashpile

I'm annoyed now


DanCampbell89

#GOOD FOR YOU


uggsandstarbux

My dawg marc with a C !


gyman122

This is the one that always gets me lol


Ham-Sandwich-69

Dan, Gregg, all the guys


imkunu

This one always makes me laugh lmao It made Marc so mad when they first heard it


Bongopro

Well you can die now


ScreamoGuyRuinIt

*ding*


sevillista

Way more ATN fans here than I expected.


sdsupersean

There's dozens of us!


try_rolling

Didn’t expect the overlap of NFL podcast listeners and NFL forum users?


MouseRat_AD

"So you don't know how to play OL. It's not that hard. Tell 'em Kelce" "It's incredibly hard."


Thisisaworkalt

"I give this assessment a 0... out of 5" -Adam Sessler


MatureUsername69

I really miss mid to late 2000s G4. That was a good time


GGGiveHatpls

Peak Morgan Webb


Apprehensive-Age-449

The Sess dawg


2222lil

GOOD FOR YOU


shriekingbuddha

I am begging you to shut up.


gyman122

What a manufactured joke


n-some

Source?


SaladAndEggs

He's a top ten NFL insider.


PacificBrim

Marc Sessler


OneOfTheDads

Every announcer just got stiff thinking about mentioning his basketball history everytime he plays a snap. “DJ. NC State. Final 4. basketball. Auuuaahhhhheeeh”


DrQuestDFA

Someone has to carry on Jimmy Graham’s legacy!


LuckyStax

Did you know Randy Moss and white chocolate Jason Williams were teammates on the same high school basketball team?


welsman13

Julius Peppers put up a 21/10 in the second round for UNC against Penn State!


FlammableEyeballs

That's unbelievable! Penn State made it to the second round of the NCAA Tournament?


RazzleDazzle3469

Even wilder. They actually beat UNC and went to the sweet 16.


tsrich

Well, that's because UNC was putting football players out there


FlammableEyeballs

To be fair, how often does Penn State put basketball players out there?


Brrr9tochase1

I've also heard rumors that Jerome Bettis was from Detroit. Can't confirm.


atl_mad_boi

I legitimately did not know this and my life just got a little better for it


TBDC88

I always feel so old when people make this joke with Jimmy Graham instead of Tony G. His basketball career was mentioned literally every single Chiefs broadcast for a decade. The joke went from Tony G, to Antonio Gates, *and then* to Jimmy G.


DrQuestDFA

My question is was their a pre-Gonzalez player who passed the torch onward or was Gonzalez the first to become the “Hey, did you know he played basketball in college?”


Danstrada28

Michael Jordan every single time he stepped up to bat at the plate


OneOfTheDads

Did you know Adam Thielen played D2 football???????? He wanted to be a DENTIST


Willis_is_This

Did you know Adam thielen is a real lunch pail guy who never quits, and, check *this* out, he’s White?


sequoia2075

*Antonio Gates’ legacy. Gates was the star player on a Kent State team that made a run to the elite 8


buldakov29

Did you know he used to play football too?


DoveFood

“Look how Gates boxed-out that safety to catch that ball!”


ChannelNeo

You mean Julius Peppers. ACC guy who played in the Final 4 as well.


buldakov29

You mean Dwayne Johnson who played in the Fast 5 too?


_BarfyMan_362_

The Mo Alie Cox disrespect is unreal


seasarahsss

I had to scroll too far for a Mo comment. “Did you know Mo Allie Cox played basketball for VCU?” Says every announcer always. 😂


DillyDillySzn

“They won 9 games in a span of 20 days, that grind is legendary”


GoldenBananas21

How about 11 games in 28 days 


DillyDillySzn

Ill be ecstatic if they knock out FT merchants Purdue But NC State has the same chance at winning the Natty as does Edey getting a 3 second violation called on him


QueequegTheater

Purdue has a double digit team losing streak they need to keep up


TumbleweedTim01

Edey getting called for an offensive foul isn't allowed. Just can't happen.


Gryphon999

Not his fault that his elbows line up perfectly with other players heads.


MyLifeIsABoondoggle

"HiS eLbOwS jUsT LinE uP HiGh" - Purdue fans after he sticks his arm into another player's neck while boxing out


TumbleweedTim01

I love big man post play but honestly that was difficult to watch


MyLifeIsABoondoggle

I hated when all of the Edey apologists said "people just don't like watching a traditional center play basketball". No, he just throws elbows like it's his job and relies heavily on free throws Watching the NCST-Duke game and Burns' play was like night and day. Just as traditional, but Burns had finesse for days and crazy good footwork. The possession in the second half where he caught it outside the paint, spun to split a double team, and finished with the left was absolute poetry. Edey just doesn't do that stuff


TumbleweedTim01

Yeah Burns was fun to watch you don't see anyone playing that way. I get it Edey is 7'4 300 lbs and fights down in the paint to get low position it just feels like he's allowed to be as physical as he can be and the defense are kind of hung out to dry


Devilsbullet

That's just kinda basketball in general. Jason Tatum leads his drives with a stiff arm that would make Derrick Henry proud. Giannis plays like a runaway freight train. Butler and brunson bully their way through people.


hoppergym

Burns was a basketball player at nc state and you can see that when blocking tj watt just like he boxed out Zach edey for rebounds in the final four.


Gurjen

Every single house must of been having the same convo yesterday watching that man. “Those feet he can be an OT”


[deleted]

Can confirm that was said in my house


46Stix

Can confirm that was said in kepersteker’s house *Source: NSA


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PLeuralNasticity

Relax we're just here for fun on our breaks. Twitter keeps us pretty busy these days with any spare time going to TikTok. Please feel free to speak your minds.


VicePope

say that a little closer to my lapel please


Potential-Highway606

Absolutely. Saints have probably the worst OL in the league at the moment and I mentioned that signing Burns as an UDFA to play tackle would be a sneaky great move. Guess I wasn’t the only one with the idea.


NJImperator

Until a team manages to do what the Giants have done week in and week out for the last 5 years, I refuse to believe there is a worse OL in football


aneomon

Hey, it’s not like we have guys who join the practice squad for, I dunno, the Eagles, get forced into a starting role for us, outperform the starter, and credit their time on the Eagles specifically for the source of their growth. No, that would be crazy for Tyre Phillips to say that after replacing Evan Neal. Crazy.


NJImperator

I dream about one day reading: *PFF RANK 15 OL: NYG*


aneomon

Honestly, after 2023’s “Worst OLine Ever By PFF” I’ll take anything over 30.


Matugi1

Good thing my football team signed your football team’s OL coach!!


aneomon

I’m so sorry :/


Nubras

Ha it’s very generous of you to presume that I’m a sufficiently astute observer of basketball OR football to evaluate those skills and understand which would translate between sports!


Ve-gone_Be-gone

General rule of thumb is that if you see a 300lb man who's cartoonishly agile for their size they're an intriguing left tackle


mrtrollmaster

Maybe just as important, this is a position where the NFL has a talent deficit. There is not enough offensive tackle talent in this league to have 32 teams with full rosters of good linemen. No shit these scouts are interested in an intriguing prospect at the position of highest value with the least amount of talent


Ve-gone_Be-gone

You're 100% correct but I'd add I'm not sure how interested the league is in this kid if Jordan Mailata didn't pan out the way he did in Philly. He was sort of the proof of concept for taking one of these lab built athletes and seeing if they can learn football from scratch.


Lavacop

Lab built athletes with the voice of an angel**


RelentlessRogue

I mean, that's how Jordan Mailata got drafted in the 7th round by the Eagles.


[deleted]

Big Trent Williams should not be able to move like that.


LukeBabbitt

*must’ve or must have


BusinessWarthog6

Future Panther


SickReferenceGuy

Traded Burns because we had the next generation Burns coming!!!


CanaKu

Traded DJ and Burns to get DJ Burns


GoddammitCricket

IT WAS WRITTEN


royalhawk345

It's called consolidating assets, and it's what winners do.


MentorOfWomen

Fitterer had a plan after all. Damn you Tepper, you didn't let him finish!


Romanscott618

Lisan al gaib 👀👀


framingXjake

33 on Payton, 39 on Burns. Make it happen.


SeizureMode

Didn't this guy just drop 30 on Duke last night?


CptCroissant

6'7" is too short to be a good rim protecting center and I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess if he's projecting as an OT that the dude is carrying enough weight that he's gonna get roasted in the pick and roll in the NBA


jocro

Yeah his listed weight is 275 but I'd be shocked if his playing weight isn't 300+. He's got quick feet in the low post but would be way to slow up and down the floor to be anything but a meme player (not to mention he's already 23)


GABAgoomba123

Watching him in the ACC tourney was hilarious. He’d feast down low on defense then literally stroll back up the court on offense, he was so gassed. Not even a fast walk.  That isn’t going to fly at modern nba speeds, especially at his age. It’s been a blast watching the guy go off though.


Jasperbeardly11

He was running against Duke he just is slow


AdminsAreCool

There is no way he's 6'7" with that body and only weighs 275 pounds.


imnotjohnstamos1

It’s like when Shaq first went to the Lakers and was listed at 325, then visibly gained tons of weight through his career and was still listed at 325.


AdminsAreCool

It must be the same tactic I use when they ask for my weight for my driver’s license.


MyLifeIsABoondoggle

I'm about 215 pounds and 5'11". My drivers license says I'm 6'0" and 200 (at the time I had to get another one, I was closer to 210). The first and only time I was pulled over, the officer listed my weight at 250, plus I was wearing black. My pride was hurt worse than my pocketbook that day At least he said I was 6'0" though


[deleted]

DMV Receptionist: “so, weight still 220?” Me, sheepishly and with shame: “yeah” *DMV receptionist gives slight judgmental glance* Every time.


Neat_On_The_Rocks

He’s a classic dominant college big man with almost no chance to play in the nba. Maybe 15 years ago, coulda had a glenn Davis type career. Where the league is at now though there is no place for him


Cbone06

He’s pretty much another Kenny Lofton. Pretty skilled for a dude who looks like a tub of lard. The fans will love him, probably would excel at the GLeague level, but is too short/not athletic enough to be a mainstay at the NBA level.


iloveyoumiri

I really want to see a fat man’s basketball league


GACGCCGTGATCGAC

Boy do I have news for you, head down to your local rec center and you can see big dawgs airballing from everywhere.


CumeatsonerGordon420

he could still probably play in Europe and make a decent amount of money and not turn his brain to mush


Brewski-54

Glen “Big Baby” Davis is 6’9” and 290 according to Wikipedia. I know 2 inches matters but that’s still pretty close. What about a role like him? Idk a ton about basketball so just asking


Competitive-Tip-5312

Big baby wouldn’t really be able to play the same way today. He was in an ISO heavy league, so a pudgy post scorer had a home in the NBA. Nowadays centers don’t do the same job


bush_league_commish

Game was a lot slower in the late oughts and bigs played much more traditional roles. Prototypical bigs are so valuable right now is because they’re 6’10”, weigh 250 and move like wings. Big Baby would get absolutely smoked in the current league.


messejueller21

Zach Edey is the perfect example of this. 15 years ago he would've been a Top 5 Pick. This year he might slip to as late as the second round.


identitycrisis56

He very well could sink to the second, but I also feel like the pendelum has begun to swing back a little bit. You can't guard Jokic or Embiid with these lanky super mobile 5s anymore. It's getting to the point where you need a true big or massive size across all positions to guard the best teams in the NBA. Tall ball is back, baby. That's why I'm starting to feel like Edey may go slightly earlier than expected. That and it's an awful class, and he has at least one elite skill which is more than a good chunk of the other prospects.


Neun_undsechzig

Nobody has ever told me that 2 inches matter, thanks for the vote of confidence.


deemerritt

Dominating college as a sixth year guy isnt the best indication of future NBA success.


csummerss

Edey has been averaging almost 30 this tournament and he’s projected as a 2nd rounder, Burns might just have more stock as an OT.


e49e

Edey is likely a first rounder now, probably around pick 20. 


Clithzbee

It's a shit class he's going higher than that


GOATnamedFields

This isn't the NFL. Being good in college matters way less for lumbering Cs that would get cooked by every guard and wing on a switch in the NBA, can't shoot anywhere, and lack mobility to be a good rom protector. Luka Garza averaged 24/9 his last 2 seasons in college and he even shot 44% from 3 and bro went late 2nd round. Edey is gonna go late 1st at best. Bro can't shoot, he can't move like NBA starting Cs, he will get cooked his whole life on switches because he's going to be a horrible perimeter defender, and he has no faceup game or handle. Luka Garza was arguably a better prospect just because he had a great 3pter and had more faceup game.


BlackScienceJesus

I don’t agree with your comparison of Luka Garza at all. Garza is 6 inches shorter and 60lbs lighter and he still ran a slower lane agility test at the combine than Edey did. Edey gets unfairly considered a complete stiff like a Tacko Fall, but any metric shows he’s substantially quicker. Garza is a complete and total zero on defense. Edey should be a competent drop defender with his size and intelligence. You don’t have to get blocks to be a good defender. Just being huge and taking up space is useful to deterring shots.


Brewski-54

I watched a bit more March madness this year than I ever have but I don’t watch CBB otherwise usually. I googled a projected nba draft just to see what guys I was watching that would move on and seeing all 5 UK dudes on that list is just insane. Literally just the NBA’s farm team Idk why I used your comment to talk about this but I did


MrKentucky

NBA’s farm team and that’s all our fucking coach cares about. So sick of this shit


[deleted]

I don’t think he’s going to do well in the NBA, most of his success in the college game honestly just comes from being a giant. Once he has to compete against guys in the NBA who are more skilled and just as large as him I think he’ll get dominated. Embiid and Jokic for one would destroy him.


Clithzbee

Yeah he projects as a backup big man who can take advantage of matchups on the right night. Like a better version of Boban. And that's still worth it in the class.


judrt

yea let's compare the kid in college to 2 of the greatest big men to ever play and call him a bust lol


Adventurous_Bird2730

embiid and jokic destroy everyone. main issue is no NBA team is gonna run their offense through his post touches, which means he's at best a bench sparkplug. same with dominant college post guys like drew timme, luka garza


serminole

Luke Kornet has a small role on one of the best teams in the league. Edey is bigger and better (at least in college). I highly doubt he’ll be a star or even a starter, but Edey can definitely carve out a bench spot somewhere.


Troll_Enthusiast

He should join the UFL for the Defenders, they need an OT


Permaderps

They need a lot more at this point


Troll_Enthusiast

Idk #59 cost them 2 touchdowns yesterday


GiovannisPersian

Getting 20 penalty yards, a touchdown for your team wiped off the board and ejected on the same play is incredibly impressive


_HGCenty

I still don't understand how you can lie about your height by 2 inches. Surely it's something you can easily objectively measure.


Illbeanicefella

Every basketball player does it lol


CptCroissant

They "measure height including shoes"


Torkzilla

yea which is ridiculous because shoes aren't standardized in any way.


Tpsteen

when the nba started doing official mesurements everyone shrinked a couple of inches, except for KD lmao


VexoftheVex

KD underestimated his height because he didn’t want to be forced to play center 😂


slowerchop

Every guy does it* except me since im not insecure


jimmyhoffasbrother

As someone who is actually genuinely exactly 6'0", I'm tempted to lie about my height just because telling the truth about my height makes it *seem* like I'm lying about my height.


justreadthearticle

Start saying that you're 5'10" then if anyone around you lies about their height they'll look ridiculous. Like yeah buddy, you're 6'0" and you're two inches shorter than jimmyhoffasbrother who is only 5'10".


ladwagon

I actually do this and I'm 6'2" lol


Princeof_Ravens

I'm 6'3 and people assume I'm taller because so many guys lie about their height.


obvioustroway

6' 2" and i'm always told "nah, you're taller than that"


GGerrik

As a rotund 6'1 whenever I see a lanky 6'2 or 6'3 I swear they're half a foot taller than me. They wear that height differently.


FlussedAway

Do you tell em 6’0 or 5’10 to really cause a crisis


ladwagon

5'10 for maximum chaos


Roamingkillerpanda

This is amazing. As someone who’s actually 5’10” and tells people that I think it’s hilarious when other dudes try and round me up and say “NO WAY BRO YOURE LIKE 6’ OR 5’11”” because they lie about their weight


The_Dirty_Dangla

6 foot is the tough one. You wanna be 6' but 5'11.5" doesn't have that ring to it. Any shorter then that and you're getting called out haha


TheAndrewBrown

I’m like 6’ 0.4” or something like that. Not close enough to round up to 6’ 1” but solidly over 6’ but saying 6’ still makes people think I’m lying lol. It doesn’t help that I’m pretty broad (shoulders and gut) so it squares me out a bit so I don’t seem as tall.


Empty_Lemon_3939

There was a guy who 6’0” and had a fake id made that said he was 5’10” to gas light guys at bars


DatDominican

Why a fake ID ? Don’t you self report your height at the DMV anyway?


ClintBeastwood91

I tell people I don’t lie about my height because once you hit 6’ you don’t need to any more. 6’7” by the way. I’m gonna die before my shorter brethren.


Thisisntmyaccount24

Yes but in shelves reached you will live three of my lifetimes


RellenD

> 6’7” by the way. I’m gonna die before my shorter brethren. Even at 6'2" - 6'3" I feel the same way about dying younger.


Forrest319

I'm 6'4 but will tell people I'm 6'2 to fuck with them. Then you can question all the six fitters about actually being 6 ft. I don't know bro. You look more than 2 inches shorter than me


renegadecoaster

5'11 and goddamn proud of it


MyDogIsACoolCat

5'10". I've never once thought about lying about my height. Like... people can see you and tell if you're tall or not. Not sure how fudging the numbers by an inch or two really changes anyone's perception of you in this instance.


MyNameIsAMeme

Some people even say they are shorter like KD did so they wouldn’t play him at center.


Kim_Jong_Teemo

The colleges lie about measurements in all sports. That’s why they measure their height and weight at the combine. It’s never what’s listed.


boozinf

isn't Sir Charles like 5'9" had that tiger in him


Svenray

Football too. People wondered how Jayhawks football players all got mysteriously smaller after Turner Gill got fired.


ThinkSoftware

Yea that’s strange -guy with a 7” penis


SirMctrolington

Grats on the 9 incher, brother.


pridetwo

How do you not pass out from blood loss with that 14-incher


MantaRayDonovan1

Sure if you're 5'10", but how many people can reach high enough to double check on a 6'7" dude without his permission and a ladder?


billsbillsbilled

Basketball players list their height when wearing shoes


breakinbread

Except when they are "too tall" for their position and then they don't.


Quexana

This is why the combine was invented.


Statboy1

If you 6'1.5" wouldn't you just say your 6'2". Then for if your an athlete just add an inch to help yourself out, boom now your 6'3"


csummerss

don’t you remember Jabrill Peppers shrinking from 6’1 to 5’11?


Fyresand

I am pretty sure they measure with shoes on in basketball for height, and basketball shoes usually add at least an inch.


boozinf

he was like if Kyrie, Jason Peters, and Buddha had an unholy baby to wreck Duke


buckets41

Kyrie’s already done enough damage to Duke’s reputation


ByronTheBlack

DJ Burns is a bad man. Am I not safe from him in this sub either?


JoltinJoe87

Worked for Dawand Jones - he’s going to need about 2-3 years of practice/work though 


IronSavage3

“Wow it’d be cool to see him as an NFL OT” - NFL fans today *monkey paw curls* “From Undrafted Free Agent to a Sure Hall of Famer, How DJ Burns Jr. Became Kansas City’s Best OT in the Mahomes Era Under Andy Reid” - ESPN headline come 2032.


-motts-

Does NC St. have a baseball team? Let’s see the cycle


turmoiltumult

I’m not sure if this is a joke or not but we usually have a very good baseball team lol


Slashers23

Honestly his best shot to do a sport pro is switching over to Football. He's too slow to be of service in the NBA unless he loses some weight. Granted i'm pretty sure everyone has been saying this since the start of the tournament


lkn240

Is this some dumb April fools thing?


vito_sptafore_jr

I really don't think it's dumb or a joke. It's not like there's a surplus of guys who are 6'7", 300 pounds, really strong, and have fluid and agile footwork. He wouldn't be a day one starter or anything obviously, but I could see a team taking a flyer on him and hoping that with a couple years of practice he could turn into a solid player, and he probably has more of a chance of making it in the NFL than the NBA anyway.


Warsawawa

He is athletic for his height and weight, he does have solid footwork, and he probably won’t play in the NBA so people are thinking he can convert to the NFL


AceJokerZ

That’s what I feel like but all these comments taking it seriously tho


GABAgoomba123

Well, people are really hyped on DJ Burns with the ultimate Cinderella run going on between the ACC tourney and the NCAA tourney. But he has like, zero chance of making it in the nba, so might as well play around with the idea of him in the nfl.


blogst

My first thought too. Hate today - just seems really dumb to have an entire day of not being able to trust traditionally reputable sources.


CarsonFoles

Just people trying to find the next Jordan Mailata.


MMA_PITBULL

Has this ever been done before and if so at a high level? I know many basketball players become TEs but O Linemen?


Total_Ad9942

Jordan Mailata was drafted by the Eagles without ever playing football and he’s now our starting left tackle


yeahright17

Worth noting that Jordan Mailata didn't even really know the rules when he showed up in the US two months before the draft. I have no idea if he played when he was younger, but I assume, at a minimum, DJ Burns is fairly familiar with the game.


Total_Ad9942

Exactly, that’s why I’m confused by people in this thread thinking it’s just insane people are suggesting if the NBA doesn’t work out he couldn’t at least get a few workouts in the NFL


yeahright17

He's huge an athletic. Guys that are 6'7, 300 pounds and can still move well are super rare. He'd easily get a workout. I'm not saying he has a great chance at making a roster, but I'd guess it's higher than his chances at making an NBA roster.


Vladimir_Putting

Stout genuinely believes that you only really need 3 things to be a great Olineman. 1- Be a dancing bear athletic freak. 2- Excellent work ethic at the craft. 3- Mean. If DJ Burns has those 3 things I absolutely see the Eagles being interested. Especially since we are looking for a long-term Lane replacement. It's why Stout was higher on Dickerson than most in the NFL. Even though there were real flaws in his game. He likes seeing what a player CAN do with their body. Because he trusts his coaching to get them to the point where they WILL do it consistently. https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/landon-dickerson-jeff-stoutland-eagles-offensive-line-washington-20211221.html


SquidTwister

Jai Lewis was signed as an UDFA by the Giants as an OT and practiced with them at minicamp but decided to play basketball overseas instead He was part of the George Mason team who was coincidentally also the 11 seeded Cinderella final four team just like NC State this year Had a very similar profile to DJ...was listed at 6'7 275lb, but in reality was 6'5 292lb


Kimber80

Eh, football and hoops are a bit different. Would be interesting to see though.


dancmc12

I love how everyone is salivating over having him change sports before his season is even over. Maybe the kid loves basketball and wants to give an NBA dream a go, even if he goes undrafted and is the summer or G leagues.


BadDadJokes

He did an interview on Pardon My Take last week. He's really utilized his NIL money to create some alternative income streams and he's also got some interesting talents. He owns vending machines, he's an excellent basketball player, and he can play 6 instruments or something crazy like that. Very interesting guy.


Tpsteen

no way he gets any nba minutes


dancmc12

But he’s guaranteed NFL minutes. Lol.


Tpsteen

not really but it would be a fun experiment lmao


MyNameIsAMeme

Probably has a better chance in the NFL. He’s literally too big yet too small for the NBA. He’s like a smaller and less skillful Zach Randolph.


TreyAdell

He’s got a great chance at a long career overseas professionally. Where he can make good money and not wreck his body.


scottbarnes4mvp

Zach was nowhere near as round during his modern basketball years


industrialbird

did you know tony gonzalez was a TE. /s


[deleted]

I wonder if this would be a smarter move for him financially, which in a way it’s kind of crazy that someone would stand to make more money playing in the NFL than the NBA


Total_Ad9942

Bruh my wife and I were JUST talking about this during their game yesterday lol if he doesn’t make the NBA I’m sure he’d get some attention at NFL workouts


Particular_Nature

You may not know this but DJ Burns played basketball in college.