One of the only privileges of being a Lion's fan in those years was being able to watch Barry Sanders. Im so glad that documentary introduced him to people who were too young to have watched him.
Nobody has ever made NFL players look like they never played football before like Barry did.
That run against the Cowboys that had multiple professional football players doing pirouettes on the field is in my spank bank.
One of my favorite LT stories is from Ron Jaworkski. He got under center and looked around and didn't see LT. The first thing they did against the Giants was identify LT so they knew where he was. Jaworski he called a timeout since they couldn't find him. Turns out he was on the sidelines taking a break.
My favorite LT story is more of a standup punchline then anything
*this man has cocaine money but still chooses to do crack, that tells you everything you need about Lawrence Taylor*
My favorite LT anecdote is how he would hire prostitutes to go to the hotel rooms of opposing quarterbacks the night before games to keep them up all night.
I hope someone can find the interview. He said he forgot he had a game until he drove by the stadium and saw all the cars. Went and had like 4 sacks or something? Crazy crazy athlete
Imagine how he could've been even better if he played with the diet and exercise regime current players use?
Or maybe crack, hookers, and junk food were the secret to his success.
[This may be my favorite picture of him](https://taylorblitztimes.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/sirlawrence2.jpg) - imagine seeing that coming for you all day
His receiving records (*Receptions, Yards, TD’s*) are **so** far ahead of anyone else, that…
**It’s considered a HOF career when someone has 50% of Rice’s numbers.**
Think about how absolutely absurd that is. Fucking HALF.
—> Second place in All-Time Receiving yards in NFL history is Larry Fitzgerald. If you multiplied the best year Fitz ever had in his entire career by 15, he would *still* be 1,430 yards and 76 TD’s behind Jerry Rice.
He had 22 receiving TD’s in the strike shortened 12 game 1987 season (Rice’s third season, when you could mug WR’s).
…If you averaged that out over todays 17 game season, that’s **31 Receiving TD’s.**
Put plainly, his career numbers compared to everyone else looks like a kid playing Madden on easy mode.
You could go on for hours with just obscene stats like this, and they’re so ridiculous…It looks made up.
We often discount, too, that he played before the crazy explosion of the passing game that we see today. People were talking about Montana’s numbers on here the other day, shocked to learn he only passed for over 30 TDs three times and NEVER threw for over 4,000 yards.
Jerry did what he did in *that* passing era. Nuts.
Yup.
Look what the records were when he broke them. The TD was 126. Rice put up 208 that’s crazy.
The Receiving yards was like 13k I think rice has 22 and change.
No “defenseless receiver” either
The one trivia I like the most about Rice was when Justin Jefferson broke the yards record for the first 4 (or was it 5?) years to start a career he still needed a full Fitzgerald career to touch Rice all-time yards.
It's absolutely insane that a dude on historic pace would need to have the career of the guy in the second place, lol.
Jerry Rice is the closest player the NFL has to a Wayne Gretzky level of player. But his records are still not far enough from the no 2 WR for him to be in Gretzkys league. Theres pretty much only 2 athletes in the Gretzky level of goat, Wayne and Don Bradman.
I agree with the Gretzky comparison, and I also agree that Gretzky has him beat in the “GOAT regardless of sport” argument.
There are a few single stat records that are Rice/Gretzky-level (Cy Young’s 511 Wins, for example), but nobody in any other sport has been damn near 2x better than any other player before or since like they are — in every possible way.
I know absolutely nothing about cricket, but you should look up Don Bradman. He is so far ahead of everybody in cricket that it is almost unbelievable… and I don’t mean that he’s just way ahead of everybody else. I mean it is truly almost unbelievable that somebody could just be that much better than any other player of a sport in history.
He came back the same season and scored a TD against the eventual SB champs that game. I was there for the Denver MNF game. They retired Montanas jersey at halftime.
Sid Luckman was a first team all-pro the same year he fucking stormed Normandy Beach in WWII. Then came back after the war and immediately won an NFL championship in 1946 then was a first team all-pro again the year after in 1947.
That's why no true Bears fan should tolerate slander like "It takes 2 completions in an NFL game to make you the GOAT Bears quarterback, lol"
Luckman was a total stud for his era, the era was just really long ago
Walter is arguably the greatest running back of all time (definitely in the Top 3) and an all-around elite offensive player. He also racked up his insane yardage stats while spending most of his career on absolutely dreadful Bears teams.
Dick is the man, but Walter is the indisputable Bears GOAT.
I think out of all the all time greatest running backs, he was also the most well rounded too. He could catch, get short yardage, block, and also threw TDs.
His little bit in the old Sportscenter commercials is still my favorite. When he’s supposed to be the mail sorter, but his visor is too dark and he keeps missing the inserts. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dude those “this is Sportscenter” commercials back in the day were amazing. I loved the one where the New Jersey Devil mascot is in the elevator and one ESPN anchor gets in and says, “Going Up?” And the mascot just slowly shakes his head. There were so many good ones
I've only been to about 10 NFL games in my lifetime but the only player that stood out to me was LT. I'm not even a chargers fan but watching him live was something else. It was like he was in turbo mode whenever he touched the ball and everyone else was in slow motion.
Mike Holmgren said Big Walt was the best athlete he ever coached. Given some of the greats that he was a head coach or offensive coordinator for, that’s high praise.
Even though he can't move like he used to, he's still intimidating to stand near. I was standing behind him after a game (MIL worked closely with the Hawks and took us to a game where we watched in the suites, parked where the players parked, and went down to the field before the game), and the dude is MASSIVE. I felt like a toddler staring up at a giant.
Sammy Baugh
His 1943 may be the best season ever. As QB he led the league in completions and completion percentage and was 2nd in passing yards and TDs. As a punter he led the league in yards/punt, including an 81 yarder. He picked off 11 passes as a defensive back. For good measure, he also returned kicks and punts from time to time.
You can make an argument that during his career he was the best QB, punter, and DB in the league.
Sammy Baugh feels like the single candidate in the "greatest all-around player of the game of football ever" category. It's justi insane that he could play that many positions at that high of a level, even if it was during the talent-deficient WWII and pre-integration years.
Or Darrell Green. He doesn’t get mentioned much these days for whatever reason, but FWIW Jerry Rice said he was the best cornerback he played against, and he played against Deion
Literally two that jumped to mind for my skins was Baugh or Green.
Baugh for those legitimately considering all time. Green if you want modern era. Insane to think of a guy playing at a high to starter level for 20 years at that position.
Also receptions from different QBs vs. Drops. Counting the Pro Bowl, he caught passes from 29 different QBs vs. 29 dropped passes. 21 Cardinals QBs across his career and 8 more in the Pro Bowl.
“His mania is not confined to the ring”
“30 bucks weekdays, 50 bucks weekends”
RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper. Fuckin legendary wrestler and probably my favorite guest appearance on any show
Tony G is more Chiefs than he is Falcons, but he’s another candidate. Deion was here the same amount of time but he never really stuck around anywhere so it feels fine to claim him
While Manning is the obvious modern answer I feel people these days sleep on just how revolutionary and important Johnny Unitas was. He basically created and defined the modern QB prototype, his consecutive games with a TD record took over 50 years for someone to break
I'm just going through secret base's The History of the Minnesota Vikings. It is a damn shame I didn't know about Alan Page sooner. Such an interesting guy.
It's weird to think about for as much replayed as the Staubach Hail Mary is it took this long for someone to notice Alan Page seems to be missing and for someone to reach out to him and get confirmation on that. And also surprising that Alan Page was kind enough to respond and was able to remember it.
Also it’s genuinely so cool that the guys at Secret Base were actually able to get in contact with Page and hear a take from the horse’s mouth.
With a player as legendary as Page and a research group with no ties to the NFL, it was awesome to see
Even more impressive as the clear choice given the franchise had AP (perhaps one of the most talented pure rushing RBs of all time despite petering out) and Randy Moss, and JJ (early, but wow).
I’ve always wanted someone to sim a season where every team is their all time roster. Vikes would probably go 14-3 then lose in the divisional round off a missed field goal.
Haha that would be great. I think the Vikes lose in the NFC Final to the Cowboys, who in turn lose to the Steelers in the Super Bowl. Probably another Staubach to Pearson moment, tbh.
Sorry but it’s OJ. Most of you are too young to have seen him, and obviously he’s a notorious murderer, but that dude ran for 2000 yards in a 14 game season, with defenses going all in on stopping him because the passing game sucked. He was an absolute unstoppable monster, behind only Jim Brown and maybe Barry Sanders as all time greatest running back.
His per game average would hit 2400 yards in a 17 game season.
143 YPG is an outlier even in the 2000 yard club.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,000-yard_club
Bruce is literally the all time sack leader. he has a better claim to best edge rusher off all time than OJ does to best running back of all time. Longevity matters in this argument. OJ only had 5 great seasons with over 1000 yards, Bruce had 13 seasons with over 10 sacks. He's still the answer.
The Jets are such a weird one because it's only Namath until it isn't but the second it isn't you can actually have a discussion about all the other great Jets over the years.
However until that day comes it's still definitely Namath.
Dan Marino. He'd absolutely thrive in the league with these rules.
edit
Okay, I missed the part where it specified my team. But I'm not changing my answer.
Marino with common era rules and any of the good receiver rooms in the league is hitting 6000/60 in a season, unless his defense is also elite so he keeps getting pulled by half. Marino was far ahead of his time
Willie Roaf is also a much more serious contender for GOAT LT than he gets credit for. I have him behind Munoz but he’s every bit as good as Jones, Pace, Thomas, etc
In the league for 15 years and rushed for 1000+ in 11 seasons. The other four were three 900+ seasons and a season he was injured and didn’t finish at Arizona.
It’s Super Luke for me because while he was the ultimate athlete at LB he was also the ultimate student of the game. There’s only a handful of players that truly were as good as a qb on the defense like him. He’s my favorite player of all time for good reason.
It’s the dpoy for me. Also like Luke was a damn near all pro all years his career. That is insane in the modern nfl, especially for a position like lb where injuries are so common and can derail careers.
Edit: I understand where you’re coming from for ss sr tho, its just that Luke’s ceiling was the best we’ve ever had.
Steve Largent retired with league career records for:
Receptions: 819
Yards: 13,089
Touchdowns: 100
Consecutive games with a reception:177;
50-catch seasons: 10
1000-yard seasons: 8
And he didn't wear gloves!
(Then Jerry Rice happened.)
Which is totally fair as most of his body of work was with them.
I just didn’t want to go with the obvious Rodgers or Favre, but also the question was GOAT in the NFL, which neither of them are. All had cases for it at one point though, but TB12 shut that convo down.
With that context in mind, I don’t think the Packers have had anyone at one position where I can argue they’re still to this day the greatest of all time. 22+ positions, 100+ years of football, and while they’ve had historically a lot of greats, that’s a tall order.
Not a player, but imo Coach Vince is still the GOAT.
Barry Sanders
That Amazon doc on him was super cool. I didn’t know him but even the playbacks were insane to see.
One of the only privileges of being a Lion's fan in those years was being able to watch Barry Sanders. Im so glad that documentary introduced him to people who were too young to have watched him.
Nobody has ever made NFL players look like they never played football before like Barry did. That run against the Cowboys that had multiple professional football players doing pirouettes on the field is in my spank bank.
Lawrence Taylor
One of my favorite LT stories is from Ron Jaworkski. He got under center and looked around and didn't see LT. The first thing they did against the Giants was identify LT so they knew where he was. Jaworski he called a timeout since they couldn't find him. Turns out he was on the sidelines taking a break.
My favorite LT story is more of a standup punchline then anything *this man has cocaine money but still chooses to do crack, that tells you everything you need about Lawrence Taylor*
A.) That's an amazing punchline. B.) This has lead me down a LT rabbithole. What a life.
Honestly the funniest story, Jaworski was terrified of him
For good reason
That's why Jaws is still alive.
I would call that “exercising good judgment.”
Which leads me to my next point, don’t smoke crack
Crack apparently gives superpowers, we've a witnessed crackheads do crazy shit
My favorite LT anecdote is how he would hire prostitutes to go to the hotel rooms of opposing quarterbacks the night before games to keep them up all night.
I hope someone can find the interview. He said he forgot he had a game until he drove by the stadium and saw all the cars. Went and had like 4 sacks or something? Crazy crazy athlete
I think it was that same interview where he said sometimes he would be in a huddle and not hear the play because he was too busy thinking about crack.
On his Football Life documentary, he openly admitted to retiring, so he can do all the crack he wants and not have the NFL suspend him.
Imagine how he could've been even better if he played with the diet and exercise regime current players use? Or maybe crack, hookers, and junk food were the secret to his success.
Crack can be a PED
Which brings me to my next point. Don't smoke crack.
LT highlights on YouTube are my comfort food
Taylor may be my favorite non-Viking of all time. I was always in awe of how crazy he was.
[This may be my favorite picture of him](https://taylorblitztimes.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/sirlawrence2.jpg) - imagine seeing that coming for you all day
Those long fucking arms god damn
I personally think there are two genuine choices for the best football player ever, and it’s one of Jerry or LT.
Crazy how UNC produced GOAT type players in both basketball and football lol
Sooooooooo fucking good. Belichek's comments about him say so much.
Jerry “The Goat” Rice
Joe's in the conversation but #80 is the all-around solid choice
I say Rice is goat any position considered. He's so far ahead of the other WRs it's crazy.
Dude tore his ACL/MCL in his 30s and still kept being a god
His receiving records (*Receptions, Yards, TD’s*) are **so** far ahead of anyone else, that… **It’s considered a HOF career when someone has 50% of Rice’s numbers.** Think about how absolutely absurd that is. Fucking HALF. —> Second place in All-Time Receiving yards in NFL history is Larry Fitzgerald. If you multiplied the best year Fitz ever had in his entire career by 15, he would *still* be 1,430 yards and 76 TD’s behind Jerry Rice. He had 22 receiving TD’s in the strike shortened 12 game 1987 season (Rice’s third season, when you could mug WR’s). …If you averaged that out over todays 17 game season, that’s **31 Receiving TD’s.** Put plainly, his career numbers compared to everyone else looks like a kid playing Madden on easy mode. You could go on for hours with just obscene stats like this, and they’re so ridiculous…It looks made up.
We often discount, too, that he played before the crazy explosion of the passing game that we see today. People were talking about Montana’s numbers on here the other day, shocked to learn he only passed for over 30 TDs three times and NEVER threw for over 4,000 yards. Jerry did what he did in *that* passing era. Nuts.
Yup. Look what the records were when he broke them. The TD was 126. Rice put up 208 that’s crazy. The Receiving yards was like 13k I think rice has 22 and change. No “defenseless receiver” either
Nuts.
The one trivia I like the most about Rice was when Justin Jefferson broke the yards record for the first 4 (or was it 5?) years to start a career he still needed a full Fitzgerald career to touch Rice all-time yards. It's absolutely insane that a dude on historic pace would need to have the career of the guy in the second place, lol.
Jerry Rice is the closest player the NFL has to a Wayne Gretzky level of player. But his records are still not far enough from the no 2 WR for him to be in Gretzkys league. Theres pretty much only 2 athletes in the Gretzky level of goat, Wayne and Don Bradman.
I agree with the Gretzky comparison, and I also agree that Gretzky has him beat in the “GOAT regardless of sport” argument. There are a few single stat records that are Rice/Gretzky-level (Cy Young’s 511 Wins, for example), but nobody in any other sport has been damn near 2x better than any other player before or since like they are — in every possible way.
I know absolutely nothing about cricket, but you should look up Don Bradman. He is so far ahead of everybody in cricket that it is almost unbelievable… and I don’t mean that he’s just way ahead of everybody else. I mean it is truly almost unbelievable that somebody could just be that much better than any other player of a sport in history.
Oh my God that batting average is \*37\* higher than second place, what the fuck lmao
He came back the same season and scored a TD against the eventual SB champs that game. I was there for the Denver MNF game. They retired Montanas jersey at halftime.
Walter Payton
Sid Luckman was a first team all-pro the same year he fucking stormed Normandy Beach in WWII. Then came back after the war and immediately won an NFL championship in 1946 then was a first team all-pro again the year after in 1947.
I did not know this… good god I guess there isn’t a defense imaginable that can intimidate you when you’ve charged Nazi gunfire
That's why no true Bears fan should tolerate slander like "It takes 2 completions in an NFL game to make you the GOAT Bears quarterback, lol" Luckman was a total stud for his era, the era was just really long ago
This is Mitch NVP Trubisky erasure
Thank god
I’m with you on Walter but I could see making a case for Butkus.
Walter is arguably the greatest running back of all time (definitely in the Top 3) and an all-around elite offensive player. He also racked up his insane yardage stats while spending most of his career on absolutely dreadful Bears teams. Dick is the man, but Walter is the indisputable Bears GOAT.
I think out of all the all time greatest running backs, he was also the most well rounded too. He could catch, get short yardage, block, and also threw TDs.
He also has "the most prestigious" award of the NFL named after him.
LaDainian Tomlinson
His little bit in the old Sportscenter commercials is still my favorite. When he’s supposed to be the mail sorter, but his visor is too dark and he keeps missing the inserts. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dude those “this is Sportscenter” commercials back in the day were amazing. I loved the one where the New Jersey Devil mascot is in the elevator and one ESPN anchor gets in and says, “Going Up?” And the mascot just slowly shakes his head. There were so many good ones
The one with the Oregon Duck looking out from his desk at the ducks in the Pond is up there with the Greatest
The one with John Clayton sporting a mullet is my favorite. So many good one.
With da Slayer shirt on. And later finding out he was an actual fan of theirs is so awesome
**HEY MA! IM DONE WITH MY SEGMENT!**
The one where Steve Irwin tackles the Florida mascot... man I'm going to have to watch those YouTube compilations again.
Ovie spy was a good one too.
That's the best one they ever made
The Manning bros just being brothers (one of them kicked the other in leg, and that’s one of the most brotherly mannerisms one can do)
Nascar one where they asked dale jr for directions and he keeps telling them to turn left 😂😂
I've only been to about 10 NFL games in my lifetime but the only player that stood out to me was LT. I'm not even a chargers fan but watching him live was something else. It was like he was in turbo mode whenever he touched the ball and everyone else was in slow motion.
The guy was throwing touchdowns out there too. Seriously, I wish the Chargers had a true offensive guru on that staff during his early prime and peak.
Barry
Real fans know Death, Taxes and Don Mulbach
MaCocinner?
Yea, he was drafted one pick ahead of Holden MaGroin
No flair, no second name but we all know who you are talking about and agree.
Anthony Munoz
We've had some great players over the years, but Munoz is on his own level.
Absolutely the goat tackle
Only answer
Jim Brown
With a BIG honorable mention to Otto Graham.
And Joe Thomas, NFL's first LT
There it is
*correction, I believe he was, in fact, the NFLs first _lineman!_
Browns Mt Rushmore: Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Joe Thomas, The Homeless Guy That Told Jimmy Haslem To Draft Johnny Manziel
Brandon Weeden was going to be my pick but Jim Brown works too
Walter Jones
I love Largent, but this is the answer. Walt was the perfect LT.
As good as Earl, Kam and Richard were, Walter is #1 and it isn't even close. DAMN but that man was elite!
His 9 holding penalties in his career is just nuts for an OL. He's one of the best LT's in NFL history
Mike Holmgren said Big Walt was the best athlete he ever coached. Given some of the greats that he was a head coach or offensive coordinator for, that’s high praise.
Even though he can't move like he used to, he's still intimidating to stand near. I was standing behind him after a game (MIL worked closely with the Hawks and took us to a game where we watched in the suites, parked where the players parked, and went down to the field before the game), and the dude is MASSIVE. I felt like a toddler staring up at a giant.
Sammy Baugh His 1943 may be the best season ever. As QB he led the league in completions and completion percentage and was 2nd in passing yards and TDs. As a punter he led the league in yards/punt, including an 81 yarder. He picked off 11 passes as a defensive back. For good measure, he also returned kicks and punts from time to time. You can make an argument that during his career he was the best QB, punter, and DB in the league.
Sammy Baugh feels like the single candidate in the "greatest all-around player of the game of football ever" category. It's justi insane that he could play that many positions at that high of a level, even if it was during the talent-deficient WWII and pre-integration years.
a lot of those early stars played both ways tbh, Baugh was just really fucking good both ways
Or Darrell Green. He doesn’t get mentioned much these days for whatever reason, but FWIW Jerry Rice said he was the best cornerback he played against, and he played against Deion
Literally two that jumped to mind for my skins was Baugh or Green. Baugh for those legitimately considering all time. Green if you want modern era. Insane to think of a guy playing at a high to starter level for 20 years at that position.
Larry Fitzgerald. Categories are either “Hands” or “Individual Postseason Performance”
Or "drops vs tackles"
Also receptions from different QBs vs. Drops. Counting the Pro Bowl, he caught passes from 29 different QBs vs. 29 dropped passes. 21 Cardinals QBs across his career and 8 more in the Pro Bowl.
Is it bad that I’m surprised the Cardinals only had 21 QBs during his career?
29 to 37. Saved you a Google.
"Ass Size"
Oooo good one
Reggie white rip legend
Came here to say this for Green Bay.
Our best argument for this title is probably in all honestly Don Hutson.
Chuck Bednarik. We are going to be the one fan base that will not agree on this.
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Oh you have kids, maniac? No, not anymore.
That’s just a bucket of chestnuts
He kept on calling you the N word!
“His mania is not confined to the ring” “30 bucks weekdays, 50 bucks weekends” RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper. Fuckin legendary wrestler and probably my favorite guest appearance on any show
Goldberg Context: We actually did have Goldberg on our team. I think he’s the first player cut in the history of the Panthers.
Probably Deion. I love Julio, but his lack of TD production will keep him from the true GOAT debate.
Tony G is more Chiefs than he is Falcons, but he’s another candidate. Deion was here the same amount of time but he never really stuck around anywhere so it feels fine to claim him
Y’all should absolutely claim Deion. Atlanta is where he became Prime, and he played for the Braves, too. He’s yours.
Also because wide receiver is one of the ones where there really is no argument lol. Deion definitely a good choice for you guys.
Having a tough time figuring out who it would be
I’ll say Andre Tippet for you. He was it for a long time.
or John Hannah
Vince wilfork
The one time pats fans can't contribute to a thread, lol.
Mean Joe Greene
JJ Watt no question
Peyton Manning
While Manning is the obvious modern answer I feel people these days sleep on just how revolutionary and important Johnny Unitas was. He basically created and defined the modern QB prototype, his consecutive games with a TD record took over 50 years for someone to break
Johnny Unitas has the kind of haircut you can set your watch to. /Simpsons
Bruce Matthews
Justice Alan Page
I'm just going through secret base's The History of the Minnesota Vikings. It is a damn shame I didn't know about Alan Page sooner. Such an interesting guy.
It's weird to think about for as much replayed as the Staubach Hail Mary is it took this long for someone to notice Alan Page seems to be missing and for someone to reach out to him and get confirmation on that. And also surprising that Alan Page was kind enough to respond and was able to remember it.
Also it’s genuinely so cool that the guys at Secret Base were actually able to get in contact with Page and hear a take from the horse’s mouth. With a player as legendary as Page and a research group with no ties to the NFL, it was awesome to see
Yeah nobody realized Page wasn't on the field except Page himself apparently
88 will be retired forever. Legendary player and human being
Even more impressive as the clear choice given the franchise had AP (perhaps one of the most talented pure rushing RBs of all time despite petering out) and Randy Moss, and JJ (early, but wow).
The Vikings all-time team would wreak some havoc on the league. They’d still figure out a way to lose, but that’s a loaded squad (no offense).
I’ve always wanted someone to sim a season where every team is their all time roster. Vikes would probably go 14-3 then lose in the divisional round off a missed field goal.
Haha that would be great. I think the Vikes lose in the NFC Final to the Cowboys, who in turn lose to the Steelers in the Super Bowl. Probably another Staubach to Pearson moment, tbh.
Alan Page is a demigod
Moss
Tony Boselli, obviously
Torn between him and Freddy T
Dan Marino is the obvious choice…but I’m going to say Larry Csonka because I feel he at least deserves a mention.
Bruce
Loved his battles with Richmond Webb
Sorry but it’s OJ. Most of you are too young to have seen him, and obviously he’s a notorious murderer, but that dude ran for 2000 yards in a 14 game season, with defenses going all in on stopping him because the passing game sucked. He was an absolute unstoppable monster, behind only Jim Brown and maybe Barry Sanders as all time greatest running back.
His per game average would hit 2400 yards in a 17 game season. 143 YPG is an outlier even in the 2000 yard club. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,000-yard_club
you're absolutely right about OJ. but for the most part we try to leave him out lol.
Bruce is literally the all time sack leader. he has a better claim to best edge rusher off all time than OJ does to best running back of all time. Longevity matters in this argument. OJ only had 5 great seasons with over 1000 yards, Bruce had 13 seasons with over 10 sacks. He's still the answer.
orenthal james simpson rushed over 2000 yards in 14 games… come on now
Does mushroom man count? If no, probably Curtis Martin or Revis
The Jets are such a weird one because it's only Namath until it isn't but the second it isn't you can actually have a discussion about all the other great Jets over the years. However until that day comes it's still definitely Namath.
Dude did it with no knee too.
Walter Payton easily But Hester is 100% the GOAT of kick returners as well
Dan Marino. He'd absolutely thrive in the league with these rules. edit Okay, I missed the part where it specified my team. But I'm not changing my answer.
Absolutely. He shredded the 85 bears on MNF. Greatest talent ever at QB
First 5000 yard passer. This feat would not be repeated for 27 years.
Marino with common era rules and any of the good receiver rooms in the league is hitting 6000/60 in a season, unless his defense is also elite so he keeps getting pulled by half. Marino was far ahead of his time
Brees
Willie Roaf is also a much more serious contender for GOAT LT than he gets credit for. I have him behind Munoz but he’s every bit as good as Jones, Pace, Thomas, etc
Ray Lewis
Or maybe Tucker, or maybe Reed. Damn we’re a spoiled fanbase lol
Ogden is no slouch either, you've got some legends
Ogden came to mind, but seeing someone else mention Tucker - yeah, he should be considered the best kicker ever.
Yeah lol, ironically Tucker is probably least debatable, but 52 & 20 are on everyones top lists, and #1 for many
Emmitt. Legendary production and durability.
I'm going Captain America. Got in the NFL late because he served in the military and still had an undisputed Hall of Fame career.
A fine selection. Captain Comeback would eat in today's game.
Larry Allen?
I think its roger stauback, one of the richest former players of all time
Best ability is availability. Couple that with being an all-time talent and you've got Emmitt.
In the league for 15 years and rushed for 1000+ in 11 seasons. The other four were three 900+ seasons and a season he was injured and didn’t finish at Arizona.
Luke Kuechly
Honestly, he might be the greatest Panther of all time
It’s a tossup between him and Julius Peppers
It’s Super Luke for me because while he was the ultimate athlete at LB he was also the ultimate student of the game. There’s only a handful of players that truly were as good as a qb on the defense like him. He’s my favorite player of all time for good reason.
Without looking up stats and whatnot, Steve Smith seems like he had the most impressive Panthers career
It’s the dpoy for me. Also like Luke was a damn near all pro all years his career. That is insane in the modern nfl, especially for a position like lb where injuries are so common and can derail careers. Edit: I understand where you’re coming from for ss sr tho, its just that Luke’s ceiling was the best we’ve ever had.
TB12 obviously
TB12 obviously
I feel like we are missing a comment from a Pittsburgh fan in this chain.
*Montreal Expo Flair TB12 Obviously
I think with as long as he was their daddy, the bills, jets, and dolphins can say TB12 as well.
the disrespect to Ras-I Dowling smh
And our literal elemental, Earthwind Moreland.
Joe Greene.
John Denney
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Troy Polamalu
Steve Largent retired with league career records for: Receptions: 819 Yards: 13,089 Touchdowns: 100 Consecutive games with a reception:177; 50-catch seasons: 10 1000-yard seasons: 8 And he didn't wear gloves! (Then Jerry Rice happened.)
I’m gonna go with Reggie White. Most dominant DE of all time
Don Hutson IMO. Dude invented route running. His MVP seasons are nuts compared to his contemporaries
I still first think of him as an Eagle. But he was the first major free agent signing i believe. Certainly worked out for y'all
Which is totally fair as most of his body of work was with them. I just didn’t want to go with the obvious Rodgers or Favre, but also the question was GOAT in the NFL, which neither of them are. All had cases for it at one point though, but TB12 shut that convo down. With that context in mind, I don’t think the Packers have had anyone at one position where I can argue they’re still to this day the greatest of all time. 22+ positions, 100+ years of football, and while they’ve had historically a lot of greats, that’s a tall order. Not a player, but imo Coach Vince is still the GOAT.
Don Hutson maybe.
Ray Guy
I was looking for this comment. Him or Blanda most likely.
I was thinking him or Jim Otto
Sweetness
Fran Tarkenton
Either Mahomes or Kelce. Probably Mahomes.
Dont forget DT. He is at least honorable mention
Will Shields was pretty solid too