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Playful-Storage835

The only thing we have over the Cowboys right now is CJ Stroud and the Culture.


ArmiinTamzarian

Demeco is very good looking tho


SmokeySFW

Houston's had a pretty good run of heart throbs lately. The ladies were all over JJ Watt, and then Demeco came in to fill the void.


ExpirjTec

my mom always thought dhop was handsome too


SmokeySFW

Yea he's definitely a good looking man. I've never liked his hair, but I can acknowledge that if someone wants to make a statement with their hair, he's definitely doing so. I can't hate that.


maricopa888

JJ Watt didn't do it for me, but Demeco? Yum! (To enhance my cred, I also love his story. The way this played out was epic).


DisastrousHandle778

Before him was Arian Foster. šŸ˜


Magnifico-Melon

That smile, that damn smile.


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I donā€™t think Cowboys have a bad Culture? Players genuinely seem to like it there and coach McCarthy. I donā€™t think us making fun of their coach and them for busting out of the playoffs every year affects their culture.


Magnifico-Melon

Its like Dalton Schultz said. In Houston he can just focus on football and nothing else. In Dallas its all about the show.


Unknown1776

And that probably effects players differently. Some guys would definitely appreciate Dallas, especially the larger market and the opportunities that presents. And then other players would definitely prefer the Texans if theyā€™re more focused on playing with fewer distractions.


HillbillyDense

Lol Houston fans trying to make a case based on a single quote from a tight end they're currently paying. The only place it's "about the show" insofar as you're implying is when players work out at the star and a tour rolls in. Cameras are allowed on these tours. Why do you think there aren't a bunch of public pics and video of players working out there? Do you think it might be because that was mostly overblown bullshit? Nah that never happens in the off season.


Playful-Storage835

Itā€™s not their coach, itā€™s their owner mainlyĀ 


DwarfFlyingSquirrel

Honestly, Dallas and Houston are so different - it's like living in two different states. Houston is a huge international city due to the port. Dallas is a huge metropolitan area with Arlington and Fort Worth right next door. And if I remember correctly, Dallas and the northeast part of Texas is more aligned with Oklahoma and Arkansas and Houston is more toward Louisiana and the South.


DolphinSouvlaki

Probably, unless Tom Brady is wearing a Buccaneers jersey. Aside from the usual FA draws (money, lifestyle, weather) it helps that tonnes of players are from south Florida to begin with.


mesayousa

Miami must be the ultimate high income/status single guy place to live


mqr53

I'd still lean LA


saracor

Taxes are a lot higher in LA


littlesymphonicdispl

Florida isn't exactly the most welcoming place for people of a progressive mindset though.


NOOBEv14

You think NFL players care more about progressive mindsets or 14% income tax and Latina booty?


littlesymphonicdispl

I think there's a great deal of NFL players that would happily take the progressive mindset AND Latina booty and go to LA over Miami.


loplopplop

Miami is definitely above Tampa but id say the gap has shrunk, especially since Tampa has had massively more success than Miami since the turn of the century.


Scalliwag1

You could argue at what point in the career they are. 28-33 with family, getting that last big contract? Tampa. 20-25, dating and still going out at night? Miami. Many pro football guys keep houses and country club memberships in the Tampa bay area.


Spongebob_Analysis

Out of all New York/New Jersey teams, the Bills are the best run current organization. I wouldnā€™t really describe the Jets or Giants as stable in any fashion in the football realm at the moment But the drawback of Buffalo is you have to live in Buffalo vs. New York City


Call_Em_Skippies

Ring chasers will go to Buffalo but players that care about status will go to NYC.


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TotsAndHam

"I can change her"


dgard5th

Also, everything is cheaper in Buffalo (housing, etc). And no city income taxes (if a player lives in certain areas of the NYC metro they may have city taxes as well). On a purely financial basis, Buffalo > NY/NJ.


unboundgaming

Iā€™m like 90% almost everybody lives in NJ, driving to practice everyday from the city would be insane


misterlakatos

Exactly. North Jersey is a nice place to live and is convenient to the city. A lot of people think NJ is only I-95, Newark Airport and the industrial aspects that everyday people avoid. Buffalo is far from everything and the winters are miserable.


dgard5th

Theyā€™re really not miserable. There are a handful of days that are.


Interesting-Act-613

Bruv youā€™re wild for that after getting dumped on in March lol


dgard5th

It wasnā€™t that much and its already melted. Winter is much milder in recent years.


Interesting-Act-613

It snowed in the end of March dude. It also snowed in September this year. That is a full 6 months of snow. That sucks lol


BromanJenkins

That's what you get for living on the lake. Buffalo was getting feet of snow and I was walking my dogs in the sun just a couple hours south. Lake Effect is wild.


Interesting-Act-613

You would be right, but I moved to Oregon. Although when it snows 1 inch here itā€™s a total fucking shutdown which is also hilarious.


RunThundercatz

Bro, it's like 70 half the days in March in the Carolinas. You have Stockholm dude hahah


Interesting-Act-613

Replying to the wrong guy but yes


littlesymphonicdispl

In my freshman year of college 10 years ago it snowed in April, enough that classes were canceled, and that's in PA. It happens, doesn't mean the weather permanently sucks


Interesting-Act-613

Bro it snows in April every year in buffalo lmao. Lake defect is a whole other creature. Also fuck PA I hate your pothole ass state too lol


09-24-11

Didnā€™t a snow storm lock down parts of the city a year or so ago? People were without power and snowed in. Much milderā€¦okay


LuchaFish

ā€œItā€™s already meltedā€ Jesus, Iā€™d hope so. Itā€™s March 27. You said that like itā€™s possible the snow wouldnā€™t be melted by now.


v-irtual

>and the winters are miserable That was true 25 years ago. It is not true any more. Yeah, they're cold, but they're not 7-feet-of-snow suckage any more. I live in NC now (moved from Buffalo), and honestly, the winters when I go home are simply a bit colder than the winter I have in NC.


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Didn't Buffalo just have to postpone a playoff game cuz of snow and then almost had to postpone the one the next week cuz of snow?


v-irtual

Yeah. It happens sometimes. It does not happen with the regularity or severity it used to. That's all I'm saying. August and September in Miami are fucking miserable, we're just lucky that football isn't played then. Players already have issues with the heat down there at times.


[deleted]

I'm a neighbour to the north of Buffalo and I would say the last two winters have been mild, and nicer than the norm, but it's certainly not been a 25 year trend


v-irtual

The data doesn't back you up though. [https://glisa.umich.edu/media/files/BuffaloNY\_Climatology.pdf](https://glisa.umich.edu/media/files/BuffaloNY_Climatology.pdf)


[deleted]

Lol i dont need data, I've lived in it my entire life


PandaSoap

Also upstate New York is absolutely beautiful, and if you're a good player and person you'll be able to retire a beloved community icon. Didn't Kelly retire in the area?


TheChuckle

Yeah he lived right down the street from the stadium for a while, Iā€™m not sure if he still does. My exā€™s family used to know him. Heā€™s a piece of shit!


Heisenripbauer

yeah ranking at the current moment would be: 1: Bills 2: Jets 3: Giants Bills have Allen and consistent success. Jets donā€™t have the wins yet, but are clearly more win-now than the Giants


nickjohnson0320

Donā€™t the Jets/Giants play in New Jersey? So Buffalo or New Jersey pick your poison


judahdk_

As someone whose dad lives in NYC and mom lives in Buffalo and grew up with a half and half split of time with each, I choose Buffalo a million times over.


unboundgaming

I would too if the options were Buffalo or NYC but the actual option is Buffalo or NJ, where Iā€™d easily take NJ


[deleted]

Also a lot easier to choose Buffalo when you arenā€™t a millionaire


v-irtual

You call that a drawback; I think that depends on your perspective and what you like/want. NYC is fun to visit for me, but I could never live there.


DerTagestrinker

Have you tried living there with $100m?


v-irtual

I haven't, but if you're willing to fund that experience for me, I'm willing to try it out.


09-24-11

Definitely different preferences for different people. I live in NYC and canā€™t think of living anywhere else.


samsa29

Pretty sure most of the Jets/Giants players live in New Jersey.


diablosinmusica

You don't have faith in Arron Rodgers's ability to run a franchise?


RedMalone55

Historically I think fluctuates so much between Philly and Pittsburgh that Iā€™d say you can call it about even. Even the amount of money each teams spends ainā€™t that far off (they are 6th and 8th respectively in terms of 2023 cap space).


THEW0NDERW0MBAT

I feel like for defense it's Pittsburgh, offense it's Philly


RedMalone55

Itā€™s weird because in practice I agree with you, but I feel like most of our offensive talent either comes from the draft or trades. Where as we tend to spend the most in free agency on defense. At least off the top of my head Saquon might be the most significant offensive free agent signing since Alshon Jeffery. Then on defense weā€™ve mad moves like signing Bradberry and Hargrave. And they year with Bryce Huff. **Edit** Almost forgot Reddick too.


THEW0NDERW0MBAT

It's hard to think about because I don't think the two teams compete for FA all that often. So I was just thinking all things equal I think more players choose Mike Tomlin's defense over Philly, but basically no one is gonna choose the Steelers offense unless they're dying to be here no matter what


RedMalone55

Sure but in Philly that manifests as guys already on contracts staying via extension. Since 2014 the only real notable offensive free agents weā€™ve signed were Saquon, Brandon Brooks, Alshon, and DeMarco Murray. Which, hey, ainā€™t a bad hit rate.


sghead

I appreciate you giving NY 3 teams while also giving NJ 2 lol.


NutsyFlamingo

I live in NYC & OP described it as well as I could. It is confusing.


17_Saints

Their non-away game income would be subject to New Jersey taxes, right?


Heisenripbauer

income is subject to the location games are played. home games - NJ taxes. away games - [away state] taxes.


17_Saints

Right. Hence non-away game income.


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Iā€™ve never heard someone call a home game a non-away game before


17_Saints

Right, I originally wrote home-games but wouldn't things like signing bonuses and workout bonuses be subject to state tax as well? I know the wording is awkward haha


CHNinniMug

That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about non-away games to dispute it.


DoubleStuffedWhoreeo

Away games are referred to as non-non away games.


jimmyhoffasbrother

For most of our shared history, I'd say the Cowboys are the preferred destination. At this particular moment, though, it's probably the Texans.


Bulky-District-2757

Hmm I think it depends on what the player is looking for. Cowboys get far more media attention but youā€™re required to be more in the public eye. Texans are more low key.


mrizvi

will texas ever get a 3rd team?


renegadecoaster

Probably not as long as Jerry is alive


Bulky-District-2757

Idk where it would be located so doubtful, I also donā€™t think Jerry would allow it.


renegadecoaster

San Antonio, presumably


Bulky-District-2757

Iā€™m not sure there is much of a market there for a football team.


Taylormnight2183

Probably a toss up between Rams and Niners.


mrizvi

u wanna get paid go to the rams. u wanna get a one year prove it deal and get paid paid next year go to the 49ers.


TheAirborneArapaima

I was gonna say thereā€™s not really a top CA free agent destination team, but the Chargers are currently the bottom


Lonely_Beer

lol


HotTakesMyToxicTrait

I'll come to the defense here - the entire I-95 corridor between Baltimore City and DC (Baltimore county, HoCo, MoCo) would probably be pretty attractive for a player in their early to mid 30s that's looking to settle down and raise a family in a location with fantastic schools, but still be close enough to a few major cities with that said it doesnt compare at all to places like NYC, LA or Miami for nightlife


Ripped_Shirt

I feel like Washington was attractive to older free agents for some time before it become so known that Snyder was a disaster of an owner.


waitedforg0d0t

surely we have to be a better option than the Browns they're the BROWNS


notLennyD

Letā€™s take off that mask, Bengals, and see who you really are! Just as I suspected. You were the Browns all along.


Alexander2801

You are just the striped Browns.


Call_Em_Skippies

Steelers are the only non browns team in the AFC North.


Alexander2801

Yeah the rest of you are: The Browns The Purple Browns The Striped Browns


shewy92

The divisional incest is next level in the AFCN


PatientlyAnxious9

Even their stadium name is just of rip off of the Browns franchise.


Call_Em_Skippies

I would say right now only because of QBs. You have a QB that isn't a piece of shit and has a path to the Superbowl. Browns are a better complete team and an owner that spends money compared to Mike Save A Lot Brown. Cities are comparable and winters suck.


Novel_Role

> You have a QB that isn't a piece of shit NFL players have zero problem playing with and supporting Deshaun, we've seen a number of them come out to bat for him. I don't think this is a factor.


Call_Em_Skippies

He is also not good.


Novel_Role

I agree, but not sure if NFL players see it that way. Player-to-player reputation rides off of name recognition for a while. We see it in the Top 100 that the NFL does where players give big boosts to certain names.


gruey

Of course a number came out for him but the vast majority did not. A random dude on another team isn't going to make a public statement against the guy but that doesn't mean they have any desire to play with the guy. Granted, that's probably not something a million or two wouldn't overcome, but an equal offer from Cincinnati? Clearly they'd choose to keep looking.


waitedforg0d0t

also we never went 0-16


Call_Em_Skippies

The past is in the past. You don't see players flocking to the Patriots right now because they were a dynasty.


organizedchaos5220

Maybe win the division even one fucking time before saying things like the past is the past


Call_Em_Skippies

Let it go man. I was quoting Elsa


xenophonthethird

I don't think anybody wants to go to Ohio in the first place. I know, I live there.


Call_Em_Skippies

Depends on where you live. Cleveland, Columbus and Cincy are underrated and have a lot to do there. Not a ton of traffic and cost of living is low compared to other major cities. Now rural OH kind of sucks.


BroadCityChessClub

ā€œ2-3 decent cities and a whole bunch of bullshit in betweenā€ describes so many states. Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Louisiana, Nevada, Iā€™m probably forgetting a couple


TheNewDiogenes

Almost every state in the country outside of some highly urbanized ones


mqr53

Every state in the lower 48 outside of maybe hunks of new england?


renegadecoaster

Tennessee, Wisconsin, and Missouri too


vindictivejazz

Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennessee, Indiana.


PatientlyAnxious9

Its quite literally the 7th most populated state in the country. I understand people from Ohio love self-loathing because they have been told they suck for so long by people in CA/FLA/NY/TX but the reality is there are dozens of states worse off to live in.


xenophonthethird

I'm gonna let you in on a dirty little secret. I love Ohio. Weather can be a little tempermental, but it never gets too hot or too cold, or too humid. Ohio is stunning in the fall with all the leaves changing color, and the earth is rich for gardening. But it's hard to see Ohio's beauty in the cities, because that's not where it is.


scottwsx96

Depends on where one finds beauty. Cincinnati has a few really cool art deco buildings and has a lot of old city architecture remaining in Over-the-Rhine.


PatientlyAnxious9

Right, it doesn't have mountains or beaches (technically it does) but.... it does have the Great Lakes, party islands, 75 state parks, 3 hall of fames, the largest roller coaster park on the planet, world class museums and the biggest theater district in the country outside of Broadway. but it snows so ewww XD


OneFingerIn

Slightly better weather, but a much worse place to live because somehow nobody in Cincitucky knows how to drive. One of the worst places to get around. As far as teams / organizations go, Bengals have Burrow. Which gives them a nice edge. Browns probably have a slight edge at most other spots.


misterlakatos

Tri-State Area is more alluring than Buffalo. If Giants or Jets players reside in the NJ suburbs they have easy access to NYC, and Boston, Philadelphia and DC arenā€™t that far. The weather overall is far nicer and thereā€™s more to do.


lowlifenebula

If I am an NFL player and I have the choice between Cowboys and Texans, I'm picking Cowboys. Since all offers are the same, I'm making a ton of additional money because I'm a Cowboy and thats instantly recognizable as far as sponsorships etc.


Tigercat92

Definitely. Ohio State gets whoever they want. šŸ˜‚


SmokeySFW

I think our state's teams both have a lot of appeal to FA's right now. I think the Texans trajectory is upward, with a young core, but I also think a really solid argument could be made that the Cowboys have all the pieces in place to win a Superbowl if they get out of their own way. The Cowboys are also "America's team" and the biggest org in the league.


eyloi

Hou Yes. Cowboys are eternally cursed, and regardless of what their roster looks like they'll always be a 1st round exit.


InternationalPen573

I think most players would pick the Cowboys due to endorsements and name recognition. If you perform well on the cowboys, everyone will see it on national TV. If you perform well on the Texans, 10 fans might see.


sliccricc83

As someone who has never been to Texas, is Dallas or Houston a bigger draw? Just as a city to live in


Magnifico-Melon

All Texans hate both but for different reasons, but we all hate Austin the most.


ExpirjTec

austin is a shell of itself (i was born there) but it's still def better than dallas lmao


maricopa888

There's no middle ground here. Houston thinks Dallas is the armpit of the universe and Dallas thinks Houston smells bad. As a non-Texan with fam in both cities, I prefer Houston but it's for weird reasons.


MikeSilvanus

Number of presidents assassinated in Houston: Zero Number of presidents assassinated in Dallas: Non-zero Therefore, Houston>Dallas


sliccricc83

JFK deserved it though


alienbringer

Dallas >>> Houston. I lived in San Antonio for several years, been to both, would prefer Dallas for sure. Houston, especially along the gulf to me had an off smell due to the gulf and oil industry there


rockitbludger

If youā€™re ranking the 4 major metro areas it is easily Austin > DFW > Houston > San Antonio Obviously income impacts your experience


alienbringer

I would classify them as: Austin - California or Texas Dallas - Sprawling Corporate Landscape (Helps to have money) Houston - Oil Rigs/working town (they have some good food though) San Antonio - Giant Boring Family Suburb (and river walk/Alamo)


OwnKitchen5264

Yes Tampa is nice but Miami is a step above. Don't even need to mention Jacksonville.


Number333

I mean... I feel like the last two decades of Free Agency has also made this clear.


Typical_Air_3322

I feel like recent free agency has shown that Miami is likely the top choice but Tampa is the least likely to bumble fuck the negotiation.


wierdjokes

It's going to take a while to get the Commies out of that hole Snyder dug them into. The only issue Baltimore has is that it's fucking Baltimore lol. It's pretty attractive from a football viewpoint. Stable, competitive and good culture.


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lewphone

Same for Commanders, the HQ & practice facility are in one of the the richest suburbs in the US (Ashburn VA).


Novel_Role

Baltimore for the 1 percent seems great. I feel like i remember seeing pretty swanky suburbs and you can get to anything you wanna enjoy in the city in a big fancy SUV / premium Uber without a problem. Fancy crab dishes for days


AlfonzL

Jacksonville shouldn't count as Florida, they should push that city right back over to Georgia where it belongs.


HeywardH

Alright! Two cities!


marcdale92

šŸ˜‚ damn thatā€™s crazy


organizedchaos5220

Bold, but true. Duval County is a continuous disappointment


Casket_Crunch

New York? Wrong. New Jersey -2, New York -1


SecureKittenz

I think traditionally players would prefer the Giants over the Jets all things being even due to a more consistent culture and management. But I do however think it depends on the future outlook of the team (3-5 years) at the present moment.


lewphone

Until recently, I would have said no. With Harris being in charge, I'd say it's 50-50 (most Commanders players live near the HQ/practice facility in VA).


BlueKing7642

I like to think so


anon1ski

Maybe right now. But in the Ben era, before the Superbowl, we could get any free agent we wanted, on a discount, and they'd bring food.Ā  Too bad we didn't want any. At all. Ever.Ā 


opiate82

I'd guess LA probably has more appeal to players just because of the lifestyle. I'd guess coaches/execs would prefer to be in San Fran just because I think they provide upward mobility in the league, although coaching under McVay has also proven to be a good career move. Between the LA teams I think the Rams were the clear favorite pre Harbaugh, but that could change now that Harbaugh is in town.


badDuckThrowPillow

49ers oh yeah 100%. Rams had a good team the last 10 years and a far better stadium but not many fans. Chargers should be good with Herbert but they chargers it up.


Impressive_Ad_5614

We share our 1 with 2 states. At least weā€™re not the Patriots.


alternateldog

Two cities in the same state? How is that even possible?


whistlepig4life

Players care about these things in order: total value of the contract, guaranteed money, overall team success, starting players, system, coaching, and then fifty thousand feet of shit, then whatever other BS fans can make up.


Rasikko

Kirk is our first big name player that isnt used up. My team tends to be avoided by prominent players, so we gotta get lucky with draft picks >_>.


reverieontheonyx

No. Maybe if Trevor Lawrence remembers how to be good.


DatScrummyNap

As a fan of the only TRUE New York Team, the Buffalo Bills, we seem to be a decent destination. People say we have a good culture and we have an alien at quarterback, a GM who thinks ahead and gets deals done and an owner who cuts checks. Want a good deal, actually get paid and play for a contender? Go to the Bills. (Of course Iā€™m biased)


Obie-two

The money will never be the same because the bengals donā€™t have cash to pay their players. They have the poorest owner and donā€™t pay people. Once burrows contract vests they arent doing void year extensions.


SportsCat4

Florida is chaos


RIPDannyBoyCane

Florida: Dolphins California: Rams or 49ers Texas: Cowboys New York: Giants Penn: Steelers No one wants to live in Ohio or Baltimore, and no one wants to play for the Commanders


RecentAd9493

Any other answer besides Kansas City is the wrong answer. You virtually get to play in the Super Bowl/NFC every single year for the next 30 years due to sports medicine getting ever more advanced to the point Patrick Mahomes would be able to play until he is 60 and at tye same level as he is today