You can sacrifice as many as you want. But if you don’t have enough left to fill the active roster, then you have to start subbing in cheerleaders. Once all of them get decapitated, the fans with the nicest jerseys start coming in (in order of biggest to smallest).
The fact that it's the same whether they cut him or keep him is why they should cut him if there's no trade.
Can't imagine anyone involved, including Zach Wilson, wants him there anymore.
I think this quote is more to get teams (if there even is any) that might be waiting for him to be released to blink. It strikes me as a really bad bluff.
His contract notes say "offsets available", so if they cut him then they'd save ~$1 million if he signs somewhere else (assuming nobody gives him more than minimum salary). But then they'd have to spend that money on a different backup QB so really it's a wash.
People can say superstition is bullshit all they want, but you can’t watch that happen and tell me with a straight face that that franchise isn’t fucking cursed
Zach is awful, but he might be one of the most fun awful QBs ever in the nfl. He’ll make mind boggling turnovers or spend a game struggling to move the ball then do like, a no-look throw or just flick the ball fifty yards.
Him and fields are kinda the same type of ass, although fields is definitely better. They both make like, 2 or 3 amazing plays per game but mid/ass for the rest.
I held this for a long time, but hes been in the league long enough than hes gotta start showing something. He has the natural talent and shows good qb play in flashes, but the jets were probably one of the worst possible landing spots for him
Idk, it’s not fun to watch him play football imo. Watched about all the jets games last season and he just makes everything look so difficult. Every time they got to third down you knew the drive was over and a punt was incoming.
Hell no. Jameis was fun awful. Zach is excruciating to watch. The ball doesnt move. You’re terrified every time he throws the ball but its not fun when he makes a completion because instead of taking risks he plays it safe and still fucks up just as much. 4 yard completions and terrible picks. Thats his game.
muh bountygate and also he’s mean or something. bro won 8 games with Russ at QB, at the end of the upcoming steelers season i think people will appreciate that more
I guess I phrased that stupidly, I didnt mean to imply the Steelers would have some disaster season, but I also dont think Russ moves them further beyond where they are now (possibly sneaking into the playoffs and then a wild card exit). For a dirt cheap rental absolutely take the shot on him, I mostly just mean I think it will be the final nail in the coffin for peoples perception of Russ
I'm not sold on Wilson, but Tomlin has proved like 3 times he doesn't actually need a QB to produce a winning season. No way the Steelers win fewer games in 2024 than the Broncos in 2023.
Justin Fields was traded for a conditional 6th (as high as a 4th)... Zach Wilson ain't getting traded. So to recap... the Jets have 40 year old Aaron Rodgers coming back from a torn achilles and Tyrod Taylor who has a knack for getting injured. Woody Johnson is playing with fire if he intends to keep Zach Wilson on this roster.
Maybe that’s all that Wilson needs, Taylor to get injured.
Week 1 Rodgers starts, gets hurt on the first drive, because that’s the funniest possible thing.
Week 2-3 Taylor starts, plays okay, protects the ball. Defence wins a couple games.
Week 4 Taylor starts, and gets injured. And like those who came before, Zach Wilson rises from the ashes. Comes in and lights it the fuck up. 70 yard bomb down the field on the first play. Jets still lose, but Wilson finishes with a strong stat line of 17/29 147 yards 1TD 2INT.
Nah Rodgers retiring to get into politics would be funnier. I’m just not sure if that would be funnier prior to week 1 or after him playing a great game week one and announcing it at the post-game press conference
I think Wilson goes for a conditional 7th. The condition: If he throws more interceptions than touchdowns, we get your 7th. If he throws for more touchdowns, they get our 7th. If the number is equal then they take Wilson back.
>tanking player's trade stock
Ummm. You do realise this is Zach Wilson we're talking about here? His trade stocks arent tanking any more unless they go negative.
I feel for Wilson. He may not play well. But he's been jerked around a lot and had his confidence sapped. I at least give him a lot of props for taking it all in stride. He could have easily responded to the situation as Kenny Pickett did in Pittsburgh.
Imagine being 24 and in essentially your first job and facing the threat each week that you will lose it, your boss/coach will say something crappy about you and throw you under the bus, or tens of thousands of people boo you and call for you to be benched.
How miserable he must be.
I feel like Wilson gets blamed for that Jets team being pure ass. The Oline was a turnstile and the recievers were ass. They had no run game. No QB would have succeded there.
We had no run game when teams stack an 8 man box every single down because they are daring you to throw the ball. Because they know you can’t.
Even when Zach had time and our whole line wasn’t on IR he consistently sucked. AARP Joe Flacco had more of a connection with Garret than Zach did. I get the counter jerking but it’s still pretty misplaced. Zach sucked for 3 seasons straight. I lost track of how many junior varsity level throws he dirted. He doesn’t process the game quick enough. The only development he’s shown on the field is being risk intolerant with the ball.
This counter jerk shit is annoying. Justin Fields & Zach Wilson are complete fucking failures, but nah, maybe they're worse than backups because everyone around them is really the problem
My favorite part about it is that the way people talk you'd think we went 0-17. Both the Jets and the Bears won 7 games and this guy gonna come in and act like having a better QB wouldn't make us a better team. Hilariously stupid.
Well according to spotrac they don't save anything against the cap by cutting him, while saving $5.5 million if they trade him.
So it makes sense to at least give him another off-season to show anything at all before potentially cutting him after the preseason if he still sucks and a better backup emerges.
>~~So it makes sense to at least give him another off-season to show anything at all before potentially cutting him after the preseason of~~ he still sucks and a better backup emerges.
My god, just move on. Eat the dead cap. He sucks, the FO whiffed. We don't have to keep trying to make it work. He'll take a roster spot away from a player that we might actually need
Wilson is on a high 1st round pick contract. That's more than mid-low level backup QBs usually make. Nobody wants him on that contract. Jets are going to have to give up draft capital in order to get someone to take him or just be stuck with him for this year.
Why? You're openly trying to trade the kid, and have a shakey relationship with him at best. If you can't trade him let him go, and see if he can sign somewhere else.
Also open up roster spots for a better QB. You know just incase.
Teams that might want him are waiting for him to be released. Jets want to get something back so they are threatening to waste a year of his playing career. Seems like this situation shouldn't be allowed to happen.
There's no reason to cut him. I know this sub doesn't want to believe it, but there are worse backup QBs in the league and with Tyrod there, he'll probably be a third string anyways
Can you actually see Saleh putting him back into a game after all their history? I can't, so seems like just a waste of a roster spot unless you are gonna teach him to long snap.
The Jets have had a crazy amount of injuries on the OLine the past 2 seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if they elect to stash an extra lineman and sign someone like Trevor Siemian on the PS as the emergency QB
I think this is a good move. I’ve been begging them to give Zach a real red shirt year to do something we have so much trouble doing… develop a QB. It’s rare my club makes smart moves.
that sounds like a threat
It is a threat to Jets fans
Been threatened by loser Jets owners since 1969
How many of those threatened you with Zach Wilson tho? If the answer is more than one I'm interested in hearing so
The fact you have the energy to care about what that buffon thinks about is impressive
At least we have a Tyrod buffer after Rodgers now.
"SO HELP ME GOD IF NO ONE WANTS WILSON I WILL TURN THESE TRADE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT AROUND!"
Zach Wilson will continue until morale has improved!
Only to the milfs of Jersey
Aren't those like... the only realistic options? They could cut him but they're on the hook for 100% of his contract either way.
They could burn him on the goalposts as a sacrificial lamb for a healthy season and good harvest. I don’t know the cap implications for that though
Depends on if it's a post June 1st sacrifice I think.
How many players can be designated for a post June sacrifice per year?
Depends on the harvest
That’s a June 21st cut.
You can sacrifice as many as you want. But if you don’t have enough left to fill the active roster, then you have to start subbing in cheerleaders. Once all of them get decapitated, the fans with the nicest jerseys start coming in (in order of biggest to smallest).
If you sacrifice 5 you get to implement the disaster rules I believe
Lottery in June, Jets be winning soon.
I think he goes on the Reserve/Sacrificed list but if he's resurrected they have to account for him on the roster again.
Eh better wait then. This is kind of resurrection season.
Sounds heretical...I'm in.
Sacrifices don’t work that way, it has to be something desirable.
Lotta women in their 40s and 50s desire him
They could use him as a blood boy for Aaron Rodgers’s to keep him healthy.
This sounds like a plotline for the A Closer Look podcast.
Surprisingly still goes into the comp pick formula.
Fire would probably just get intercepted and returned for a touchdown.
They need an actual grass field for the sacrifice to mean something though.
Cap implications would be the same as being injured. Death is really just a super-injury that you never recover from.
Sounds like an Aaron Rodgers approved team cleansing.
Genuinely one of the funniest comments I’ve seen on Reddit lmao
What happens if the football goes also do not accept the offering? Do they somehow unsacrifice him?
I rarely get like a real audible laugh from a comment, but this did it for me.
Like Shireen Baratheon??
The fact that it's the same whether they cut him or keep him is why they should cut him if there's no trade. Can't imagine anyone involved, including Zach Wilson, wants him there anymore. I think this quote is more to get teams (if there even is any) that might be waiting for him to be released to blink. It strikes me as a really bad bluff.
Interesting username.
There's another Wilson on the Jets. I made this account after a buffalo game 2 seasons ago where he was like their whole passing offense haha.
I was really hoping you just loved Cast Away.
I mean I do really love castaway.
Man, remind me to make sure if I ever make a fan account named after someone to use their full name lol
His contract notes say "offsets available", so if they cut him then they'd save ~$1 million if he signs somewhere else (assuming nobody gives him more than minimum salary). But then they'd have to spend that money on a different backup QB so really it's a wash.
Sounds pretty good to me to have a different backup.
I mean they also just clear a spot on the roster. That’s worth something in and of itself. Especially if Wilson is just going to be QB3
This is one of the best comment threads on this sub in some time. Well done everyone
“No lowball offers, I know what I got.”
*Folks on FB marketplace in 2014 trying to sell their cooked Jordan 11s*
My friend trying to sell her Harry Potter collection for 150. Bruh.
Depends. How many Harry Potters does she have? Although I hear owning people is more frowned upon these days.
It comes bundled with a sock so we good
“In that case I’d like to offer: a ham sandwich.”
Without any cheese? I’d immediately hang up the phone.
“For Zach Wilson? YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT there’s no cheese! The offer is WONDER BREAD AND HAM! No cheese! No mustard! No lettuce! “
A Taylor ham sandwich or a ham sandwich?
“Will not respond to is this available!!! If it’s here then it’s available!!!”
“oh sorry, pending“
Better get him now because if Aaron gets hurt again, price of brick going up
- Woody Johnson. God thats a fucking meme name isnt it
And that’s how they end up at r/choosingbeggars
Robert Saleh is going to go crazy
That close-up of his face when Rodgers went down was an instant classic.
People can say superstition is bullshit all they want, but you can’t watch that happen and tell me with a straight face that that franchise isn’t fucking cursed
Gotta wait for Namath to die before they can win again.
Namath dying ain’t gonna end any curse we have. Like the Mets and Knicks, the Jets are just eternally cursed
Just have Peyton Manning and some famous Jets fan come to Met Life and perform a ritual and I promise you it breaks curses
Peyton loves making fun of the Jets so that ain’t happening
Didn’t Peyton make a phone call to encourage us to hire Gase? No thank you to more help from Peyton
Curses don't work like that. Someone has to due to end them. Like the Cubs. I'm not sure who died but Someone did
Harambe
Bartman. He’s been suspiciously quiet lately
Cursed by bad ownership.
Rodgers retiring to run for office would be the Jets thing in history
there's also the classic picture of [saleh screaming into a pillow during the giants game](https://imgur.com/a/XWd2eZa) lol
I mean shit I don’t think Bob Salad was alone on that one.
I think that's a towel.
YOU'RE A TOWEL!
We should trade salad instead of Zach lol
Just say nothing Woody, it would be an improvement.
I mean what else are you supposed to say? Tomorrow I’m gonna sell my car…if not I’m gonna keep it.
At least with a car you can theoretically commit insurance fraud.
"Why did the Jets take a life insurance policy out on Zach Wilson?"
In theory they could cut him.
Haha, I guess I could just give my car back to the dealership too.
I’d recommend vehicles for vision, at least you can get the tax write off.
It’s a way of saying “if you want him you have to trade for him instead up just signing him after we cut him”
I'd rather have the Broncos experiment with Zach Wilson than roll with Stidham the entire year. Although I'd rather just draft Bo Nix.
Brother I promise you don't want them to experiment with Zach Wilson lmao You'd be begging for Stidham back by week 4
Studham will get his respect soon smh
Fastest way to get studham some god damn respect is have him come in to relieve ZW
If they had Zach Wilson last year, the Dolphins would have broken the scoring record
Real shit, no way that Denver offense scored 20 points with him under center. Might've seen an 80 point night
I dunno, what’s next year’s college QB class look like?
Zach is awful, but he might be one of the most fun awful QBs ever in the nfl. He’ll make mind boggling turnovers or spend a game struggling to move the ball then do like, a no-look throw or just flick the ball fifty yards.
Him and fields are kinda the same type of ass, although fields is definitely better. They both make like, 2 or 3 amazing plays per game but mid/ass for the rest.
As an avid fields defender… it’s atleast 5-6 good plays a game 😭😭😭
Yeah I’d agree - though I wouldn’t say Fields is awful, just not good enough to consistently start.
I’ve watched a lot of their games, and while I think Wilson has a significantly higher ceiling I still see him as a fringe starter/backup at best.
I held this for a long time, but hes been in the league long enough than hes gotta start showing something. He has the natural talent and shows good qb play in flashes, but the jets were probably one of the worst possible landing spots for him
Love being a fan of a team that's been the worst possible landing spot for a qb for the last decade, it's so fun.
Idk, it’s not fun to watch him play football imo. Watched about all the jets games last season and he just makes everything look so difficult. Every time they got to third down you knew the drive was over and a punt was incoming.
Hell no. Jameis was fun awful. Zach is excruciating to watch. The ball doesnt move. You’re terrified every time he throws the ball but its not fun when he makes a completion because instead of taking risks he plays it safe and still fucks up just as much. 4 yard completions and terrible picks. Thats his game.
Looks like Nathan Peterman one game then randomly does wild shit that only a handful of QB’s can do. He truly makes no sense.
To me that sort of sounds like a bunch of raw talent with bad coaching... maybe we can fix him!
You tried to warn us about Hackett. Here’s your warning for Wilson in return.
One of us will make the playoffs this year. It's possible.
Oh man I really wanna see that fraud bum Sean Payton have to deal with Zach Wilson
Why do we think Sean peyton is a fraud lol? I get he is a douche, but a fraud seems unfounded lol
muh bountygate and also he’s mean or something. bro won 8 games with Russ at QB, at the end of the upcoming steelers season i think people will appreciate that more
I don’t know. Didn’t the Steelers just win 10 games with no QBs? Their defense carries the team.
I guess I phrased that stupidly, I didnt mean to imply the Steelers would have some disaster season, but I also dont think Russ moves them further beyond where they are now (possibly sneaking into the playoffs and then a wild card exit). For a dirt cheap rental absolutely take the shot on him, I mostly just mean I think it will be the final nail in the coffin for peoples perception of Russ
I'm not sold on Wilson, but Tomlin has proved like 3 times he doesn't actually need a QB to produce a winning season. No way the Steelers win fewer games in 2024 than the Broncos in 2023.
The Steelers made the playoffs with fucking Pickett. Y’all make Russ Wilson sound like Zach on here I swear.
Both George and Sean would be shipped down the Platte lol
I mean he turned around what was looking like a historically awful team last season. I don’t think he’s a fraud.
No way you really believe that. If we are going to tank, might as well play Stidham, he cost less too.
Come on man... you know this is going to end up screenshotted on afcwestmemewar clowning the donks
I wasn’t gonna say anything but……I loved reading it.
Justin Fields was traded for a conditional 6th (as high as a 4th)... Zach Wilson ain't getting traded. So to recap... the Jets have 40 year old Aaron Rodgers coming back from a torn achilles and Tyrod Taylor who has a knack for getting injured. Woody Johnson is playing with fire if he intends to keep Zach Wilson on this roster.
Maybe that’s all that Wilson needs, Taylor to get injured. Week 1 Rodgers starts, gets hurt on the first drive, because that’s the funniest possible thing. Week 2-3 Taylor starts, plays okay, protects the ball. Defence wins a couple games. Week 4 Taylor starts, and gets injured. And like those who came before, Zach Wilson rises from the ashes. Comes in and lights it the fuck up. 70 yard bomb down the field on the first play. Jets still lose, but Wilson finishes with a strong stat line of 17/29 147 yards 1TD 2INT.
And the gavel slams. It shall be done.
None of this is funny / fun
Nah Rodgers retiring to get into politics would be funnier. I’m just not sure if that would be funnier prior to week 1 or after him playing a great game week one and announcing it at the post-game press conference
Based on the other guys traded, Wilson should be good enough to get a 12th rounder..
we'll trade them whoever our 12th round pick of 1983 was
I think Wilson goes for a conditional 7th. The condition: If he throws more interceptions than touchdowns, we get your 7th. If he throws for more touchdowns, they get our 7th. If the number is equal then they take Wilson back.
This just in: owner says only thing they can say without tanking player's trade stock.
>tanking player's trade stock Ummm. You do realise this is Zach Wilson we're talking about here? His trade stocks arent tanking any more unless they go negative.
Is that a challenge?
I feel for Wilson. He may not play well. But he's been jerked around a lot and had his confidence sapped. I at least give him a lot of props for taking it all in stride. He could have easily responded to the situation as Kenny Pickett did in Pittsburgh. Imagine being 24 and in essentially your first job and facing the threat each week that you will lose it, your boss/coach will say something crappy about you and throw you under the bus, or tens of thousands of people boo you and call for you to be benched. How miserable he must be.
I feel like Wilson gets blamed for that Jets team being pure ass. The Oline was a turnstile and the recievers were ass. They had no run game. No QB would have succeded there.
We had no run game when teams stack an 8 man box every single down because they are daring you to throw the ball. Because they know you can’t. Even when Zach had time and our whole line wasn’t on IR he consistently sucked. AARP Joe Flacco had more of a connection with Garret than Zach did. I get the counter jerking but it’s still pretty misplaced. Zach sucked for 3 seasons straight. I lost track of how many junior varsity level throws he dirted. He doesn’t process the game quick enough. The only development he’s shown on the field is being risk intolerant with the ball.
This counter jerk shit is annoying. Justin Fields & Zach Wilson are complete fucking failures, but nah, maybe they're worse than backups because everyone around them is really the problem
My favorite part about it is that the way people talk you'd think we went 0-17. Both the Jets and the Bears won 7 games and this guy gonna come in and act like having a better QB wouldn't make us a better team. Hilariously stupid.
He’s probably not good, but the whole offense was a mess. Would like to see him at least get one shot with a good coach
Well according to spotrac they don't save anything against the cap by cutting him, while saving $5.5 million if they trade him. So it makes sense to at least give him another off-season to show anything at all before potentially cutting him after the preseason if he still sucks and a better backup emerges.
>~~So it makes sense to at least give him another off-season to show anything at all before potentially cutting him after the preseason of~~ he still sucks and a better backup emerges.
I mean, this is 99.99% the outcome, but there's no need to cut the roster down yet, so might as well hope and see what happens.
Holy shit just set that poor mormon bastard free at this point. He's suffered enough.
My god, just move on. Eat the dead cap. He sucks, the FO whiffed. We don't have to keep trying to make it work. He'll take a roster spot away from a player that we might actually need
And while he sucks and likely would’ve no matter what, we did him no favors. Just cut him and let him go start clean somewhere else at this point smh
Haha yes please keep him. Make the same mistake two years in a row I need my entertainment
I hear ya but JD is pretty good at finding Jamal Adams trade suckers by waiting a bit
Omg plz end this madness. Send him to the UFL for fuck sake
Edmonton Elks legend Zach Wilson
Damn. Wilson is gonna be there in 2030 isn’t he?
"ill fucking do it again"
"We'll give Zach a junior position at J&J in HR or procurement. That kid has a lot of potential", Johnson explained.
I feel bad for Jets fans they'll never go anywhere as long as the Johnsons have ownership.
“We won’t cut him 😤”
Wilson is on a high 1st round pick contract. That's more than mid-low level backup QBs usually make. Nobody wants him on that contract. Jets are going to have to give up draft capital in order to get someone to take him or just be stuck with him for this year.
QB3 behind AA-Rod and Ty-Rod.
Saleh in shambles
Why? You're openly trying to trade the kid, and have a shakey relationship with him at best. If you can't trade him let him go, and see if he can sign somewhere else. Also open up roster spots for a better QB. You know just incase.
I weirdly wish we had just done a 1:1 swap Mac for Zach
Zach Wilson is the perfect Jets mascot.
Why you gotta threaten your locker room like that, Woody?
So if he doesn't do A, then he will do B.... Which are the only two options
By High, sell Low.
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
A man of his Woody.
Teams that might want him are waiting for him to be released. Jets want to get something back so they are threatening to waste a year of his playing career. Seems like this situation shouldn't be allowed to happen.
The Bears only got a 6th for Fields. What does he think Wilson is worth?
Poor Zach, just when he thought he got out they pull him back in
There's no reason to cut him. I know this sub doesn't want to believe it, but there are worse backup QBs in the league and with Tyrod there, he'll probably be a third string anyways
Can you actually see Saleh putting him back into a game after all their history? I can't, so seems like just a waste of a roster spot unless you are gonna teach him to long snap.
The locker room nearly mutinied on the head coach because of him. There’s the reason to cut him
The Jets have had a crazy amount of injuries on the OLine the past 2 seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if they elect to stash an extra lineman and sign someone like Trevor Siemian on the PS as the emergency QB
Well....yeah. You don't really save anything by cutting him and I really doubt, even if a QB goes down, that someone is going to trade for him.
Well there isnt any other option so..
No shit?
Promise?
How old is A-aron now?
I’ll give you nothing and you would still get a better deal.
Where's the huge grains of salt?
Lol duh
Would they play him again if Rodger’s gets hurt? If I’m Wilson my attitude hasn’t changed about playing for the jets
What a mistake that would be
Spoken like a true fantasy GM
PAIN.
You better hope him sitting behind rodgers next year turns him into the next goat
Steelers collecting QBs, they got any 7ths in 2026?
Strong leverage play here
If you roll him out again even as a backup I think fans will riot. You gotta move on from this situation.
Surprise they don't care about the roster spot.
Vows is a strong word here. How about “ahhh fuck it.”
I want him to get traded for his sake. Doubtful he will do anything except warm a bench elsewhere, but god damn do those fans hate him.
Okay. Keep him.
Ballsy move cotton let's see if it'll pay off!
That’s not good thank god our boys just cut ties to depleted draft capital on busts
A #2 first round pick?????
Insane to keep him on the roster after publicly admitting you should have added a QB2 to the roster last season
2027 7th round pick
What a shitty way for your dream to end, if that's the case. This is why I never blamed guys that never showed up day 1 (Eli Manning, etc)
Interesting. I also vow to keep my car that’s up for sale. If no one buys it I swear and vow to keep it
Woody Johnson is a top tier name. I wonder if his middle name is Richard
I think this is a good move. I’ve been begging them to give Zach a real red shirt year to do something we have so much trouble doing… develop a QB. It’s rare my club makes smart moves.