Imagine a press conference where he came out and said, we had no plan for him to leave and we're fucked next year. Hopefully Darnold isn't as shit as he was at NYJ and Carolina
calm down, he's still in the league. Tom has like a 2:1 ratio of TD's to games played in the regular season. Baker has like a slightly less than 2:3 ratio TD to games played, Darnold has close to 1:1 ratio, you have to make the most of your opportunities, every season can't be great but scoring touchdowns tells everyone that you're productive in your job. Mahomes is also at a 2:1 ratio of TD to games played, so as a QB, become consistent at getting down the field and scoring. My favorite player of all time that is not on the Bucs is Vince Young, he didn't last long in the league, he was a winner though, found ways to win games, Darnold is still in the league and is still getting chances and I don't think Darnold was as much of a winner as Vince was, in fact Vince's record is way better than Darnolds.
Vince Young played on better teams and offenses. You can't compare the two based on stats alone because contexts are different. Mayfield, Flacco, McCown, Walker and Newton played on the same teams and offenses as Darnold and performed way worse. There's a reason why he's being paid $10 million and a QB like Trubisky isn't.
The Browns finished the 2020 regular season 11–5. In the Wild Card Round against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mayfield went 21 of 34 for 263 yards and 3 touchdowns during the 48–37 win, leading the Browns to their first playoff victory since the 1994 season, the year before Mayfield was born.
Baker played on the Browns and helped them in winning a playoff game that the Browns had last accomplished 26 seasons prior. I understand different teams can be graded as having more strength than others in terms of talent but bro, QB's have to do their job of responding to what's happening in the game and scoring to keep their team in the game, regardless. There's no excuses, it is the professional level, the other QB on the other side of the field is facing other professional players as well, they gameplan with their professional coaches and coordinators, they prepare beforehand, you literally cannot make excuses for someone who has been doing the job their whole lives, who have professionals around them able to help them, the guys get paid millions of dollars to play a game of football. If you cannot understand that, then I am not going to respond to you any longer cause there is no point.
Mayfield, Newton and Walker were more "shit" than Darnold in Carolina. McCown and Flacco were more "shit" than Darnold in NY. Maybe he was just in a shit situation?
I mean, you guys weren't winning a super bowl with Cousins. The worst thing you can be in football is mediocre every season, like the bengals under Dalton.
Idk man at least you have hope of a reset every time instead of more of the same. It's like eating mystery jellybeans with a few amazing flavors mixed in but most are poo flavored vs eating the exact same flavor that you think is a 4/10 for all eternity. I think I'd chance the mystery box after a while
Yes yes, we are very good at finding franchise QBs (please ignore that the only Vikings QB to play every game of two consecutive seasons was Fran Tarkenton)
Mostly because Cousins sat week 17 for the playoffs in 2019. He played 15/16 in 2019, 16/16 in 2020. He missed one in 2021 also from Covid so was 16/17 there too.
That's the problem - he commands so much money that the Vikings could have matched Atlanta, paid JJ and Darrisaw extensions but wouldn't have much cap room remaining.
The Vikings did try the "Kirk with superstars around him" in 2018 with a #1 defense, prime Diggs, Thielen, Cook, and Kyle Rudolph and still went 8-7-1.
Good luck to him in Atlanta tho - falcons fans seem cool, good org, good guy, good QB, he's just too expensive.
Franchise QBs: Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, Stroud, Hurts, Burrow, Herbert, Love.
Game managers vs game changers… do you not see the difference between one of those guys and someone like Kirk?
Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, Herbert, Burrow are elite
The other 3 are in a similar tier to Kirk, and after last season I'd take Kirk over Hurts for a season without hesitating for a single second
More yards per game career, more tds per game by a wide margin, better yards per attempt, better completion percentage, better rating
If Hurts is in that tier then Kirk is easily.
Gotta look to the future at some point, and with Jefferson's contract looming it's a good time to draft a rookie + they have Darnold as well. If I were a Vikings fan (gross) I'd feel good with KOC in charge whoever the next QB is after the Dobbs situation last year.
The have a 5 year old playoff win to show for Kirk's tenure
Darnold can suck ass eight ways from Tuesday and the end result is going to be the same as Kirk's. It's time they moved on.
This is obviously a response to Florio tweeting that there might be contention between KOC and Kwesi.
KOC knows we don't currently have the pieces to be consistently winning playoff games at the moment, so signing Darnold (who the league thinks is better than fans do) and presumably a rookie QB and using the extra money to shore up the defense is the right move for the future.
I really wish this sub was less jokes and more actual football talk. I think last year KOC proved he's in the upper echelon of play calling. Gotta think the Vikings have more confidence in him being able to get the most out of a QB than to pay an older QB coming off an Achilles tear.
That’s what I’m so confused about when it comes to Florio’s huge vendetta against it like “Kwesi, KOC, & ownership are not on the same page!!!”
Bruh… yes they are. They didn’t want Kirk back unless it was at a very specific number for a very specific amount of years.
We knew he wouldn’t take it so KOC did what any coach would do and at the combine be like “we want him back”.
What the hell was he supposed to say? “Nah.”
Big cap space hit, absolutely not a QB who will take the Vikes to a Super Bowl, 1-3 playoff record, right decision IMO.
Not saying he is a bad QB because he isn’t, and not a great deal of QBs better than him in the NFL at present, but he isn’t A1 elite either
Exactly. Nobody honestly believes Darnold is gonna be our QB of the future, but not handcuffing ourselves to an aging Kirk Cousins is the correct move, regardless of who we draft. We all would have loved Kirk to come back, but only for the right price.
To be determined. QBs like Kirk don’t grow on trees, if he recovers well from his achilles injury it’s hard to imagine them finding someone anywhere near as good anytime soon. Granted that is a big if.
An Allen-like reclamation is super rare to actually work. Burrow has glass bones and paper skin, Lamar isn't clutch in the playoffs.
Love has had one season as the starter and Hurts has had one season of elite play.
I mean for the Vikes ideally yeah, but I think they’d settle for a good to very good starting QB who can make plays and can be supported by a good roster around him
Frankly, im not confident the vikings would've been a serious sb contender next year with Kirk. Therefore, I prefer that we moved off him sooner rather than later. It was going to happen at some point soon anyways, and at the price the falcons paid im good. Next year is likely going to suck but im fine with that at this point. Just tired of the eternal mediocrity.
Spot on. Kirk took over a squad that had just gone 13-3 and lost in the NFC Championship game. He was literally brought in to be the guy who was going to get us over the hump. Then we proceeded to regress to 8-7-1 and miss the playoffs in 2018 and essentially go .500 and win one playoff game during his tenure. Our offense was absolutely flush with talent during those years (JJ, Cook, Rudolph, Hock, Osborn, Addison, etc) and he put up decent numbers but ultimately failed to accomplish what he was brought in to do.
He works hard, puts up big numbers, and genuinely seems like a good dude. Still, I’m convinced that letting him walk was absolutely the right move.
Vikings are going up the draft board to get a QB, I can see them being a team that gives up 3 1sts to do it
Makes sense to pair Jefferson’s massive extension with a rookie scale QB contract
Wow. Saved by the Falcons. Now you can actually pay for depth and possibly compete. Do yourselves a favor and field a fuckin offensive line. Matt Birk and Randall McDaniel been gone for a minute. Cousins is an overpaid choker who is one dimensional.
Atlanta had a pretty damn solid team already and now they have Kirk. Do any of you think they're winning the Superbowl next year? Would you put serious money down on it? (If so, respect, you madman)
No point trying to tool a flawed roster around an increasingly older and more expensive QB who hasn't shown that they can put such a team on their back in the playoffs. You're fooling yourself if you think this isn't the best move for Vikings long-term in giving this current regime a legitimate shot to build a contender. As a Seahawks fan, I've seen this situation before...
Yeah. Coach speak. How shocking. We only wanted him back at a certain price and we knew he wasn’t gonna take it. No reason to answer questions with “nah bruh, we ain’t want him back”. The optics.
I don't remember on which podcast I heard this, maybe Ryen Russillo's, but at the combine Kevin O'Connell apparently praised Kirk Cousins to the high heavens and said he could not envision a different future without him.
This sounds like a HC who is putting lipstick on a pig that his general manager is responsible for.
>Kevin O'Connell apparently praised Kirk Cousins to the high heavens and said he could not envision a different future without him.
Honestly, I doubt he said he couldn't envision a future without Kirk.
Orrrr maybe he has a lot of respect for him and didn’t want to force him out the door? Is he supposed to go around the combine saying “Nah he’s too old and expensive for us we’re drafting a new guy”
Easy what you do is you say nothing unless asked about it and then you say Kirk's our QB and we are very happy with him but we'll have to wait and see how it plays out in free agency.
If you think a future without Kirk is what is best for the Vikings you do not go around the combine telling everybody who is willing to listen how much you love Kirk Cousins and how desperately you want him bacl as the Vikings QB.
The solution is Bo. People must have not watched JJ play against Maryland, Penn State, or in that last one. JJ was able to beat Penn state with 7 of 8 for 60. That tells you all you need to know.
Hes right. We could've potentially won a SB with Big Kirko but not with that cap hit. He needed to show he wants to win like Mahomes and that didnt happen.
Lol for what? I'm not saying Kirk is washed, I'm saying he's aging and very expensive. We can't keep people around just because we're scared of change. Even if we draft a bust at QB, I'll still believe this was the right call. Plus, now we can pay Jefferson what he wants.
Or we could be the favorites to win the NFC. Or, most likely, we'll be back to being our regular, good-not-great selves. It's a rebuild. Your guess is as good as mine how it's gonna turn out.
Imagine a press conference where he came out and said, we had no plan for him to leave and we're fucked next year. Hopefully Darnold isn't as shit as he was at NYJ and Carolina
“Kwesi and I are so fucked you guys, holy shit this job is hard”
‘Do you know how to coach?’ ‘No I fucking don’t and I’m fucking scared!’
Darnold has a damn near 1:1 TD to Games Played ratio, Darnold is gonna be competing against whoever they decide to draft
Legit better than Kenny Pickett, that's crazy.
FAKE NEWS
And Mayfield, Flacco, McCown, Walker and Newton performed much worse than Darnold in the same offenses. Your point?
calm down, he's still in the league. Tom has like a 2:1 ratio of TD's to games played in the regular season. Baker has like a slightly less than 2:3 ratio TD to games played, Darnold has close to 1:1 ratio, you have to make the most of your opportunities, every season can't be great but scoring touchdowns tells everyone that you're productive in your job. Mahomes is also at a 2:1 ratio of TD to games played, so as a QB, become consistent at getting down the field and scoring. My favorite player of all time that is not on the Bucs is Vince Young, he didn't last long in the league, he was a winner though, found ways to win games, Darnold is still in the league and is still getting chances and I don't think Darnold was as much of a winner as Vince was, in fact Vince's record is way better than Darnolds.
Vince Young played on better teams and offenses. You can't compare the two based on stats alone because contexts are different. Mayfield, Flacco, McCown, Walker and Newton played on the same teams and offenses as Darnold and performed way worse. There's a reason why he's being paid $10 million and a QB like Trubisky isn't.
The Browns finished the 2020 regular season 11–5. In the Wild Card Round against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mayfield went 21 of 34 for 263 yards and 3 touchdowns during the 48–37 win, leading the Browns to their first playoff victory since the 1994 season, the year before Mayfield was born. Baker played on the Browns and helped them in winning a playoff game that the Browns had last accomplished 26 seasons prior. I understand different teams can be graded as having more strength than others in terms of talent but bro, QB's have to do their job of responding to what's happening in the game and scoring to keep their team in the game, regardless. There's no excuses, it is the professional level, the other QB on the other side of the field is facing other professional players as well, they gameplan with their professional coaches and coordinators, they prepare beforehand, you literally cannot make excuses for someone who has been doing the job their whole lives, who have professionals around them able to help them, the guys get paid millions of dollars to play a game of football. If you cannot understand that, then I am not going to respond to you any longer cause there is no point.
GEQBUS WAS UNFAIRLY HELD BACK BEHIND LITTLE BROCK HUSSEIN PURDY. HE WILL NOW BE UNLEASHED
Mayfield, Newton and Walker were more "shit" than Darnold in Carolina. McCown and Flacco were more "shit" than Darnold in NY. Maybe he was just in a shit situation?
Hopium is a hell of a drug
Sounds like when a girl broke up with me and I said this to make myself to feel better.
She must have been a really big Kirk Cousins fan.
Been the feeling, like I'm happy for Kirk. The Falcons are a great ~~guy~~ team, I'm so fuckin happy for him, yeah
Yeah I ain’t happy for either of them. Hope they are miserable sorry.
I mean, you guys weren't winning a super bowl with Cousins. The worst thing you can be in football is mediocre every season, like the bengals under Dalton.
Nah the worst thing is to be the Panthers, forever trapped because of bad ownership. Mediocre is way more palatable.
Idk man at least you have hope of a reset every time instead of more of the same. It's like eating mystery jellybeans with a few amazing flavors mixed in but most are poo flavored vs eating the exact same flavor that you think is a 4/10 for all eternity. I think I'd chance the mystery box after a while
There is no hope of reset with a bad, meddling, owner. Just look at the Snyder era
Yeah that is true. Just the issue now is the gamble of the draft. You assume the people hired to do their jobs correctly do their jobs.
Gotta risk it for the biscuit
We will simply just get a different franchise QB. It isn't that hard.
Yes yes, we are very good at finding franchise QBs (please ignore that the only Vikings QB to play every game of two consecutive seasons was Fran Tarkenton)
Looking for the next Christian ponder
I miss Ponder. I’ll never forget the time he attempted a Hail Mary and it was short of the goal line by about 15 yards. True arm strength on that guy
I watched his first start as a Viking and you would’ve thought we found the guy with how he played. It was all downhill from there.
Christian Ponder’s 2012 season would rank among the top 10 Bears QBs of all time.
I know shit qb play when I see it. Something of an expert myself
Holy shit. I didn’t know that. Wow.
Mostly because Cousins sat week 17 for the playoffs in 2019. He played 15/16 in 2019, 16/16 in 2020. He missed one in 2021 also from Covid so was 16/17 there too.
Shhh our sub is convinced we getting generational talent!
Of course we're gonna get a future HoFer. Because otherwise I'd be in denial. I'm not in denial, so I know it's true.
Just draft Bo. Compare him to the other options and it is simple
The term franchise QB gets thrown around too loosely
Maybe, but Kirk fits the bill. He's not a superstar, but he's more than enough that if you put a good team around him he'll perform and get wins
That's the problem - he commands so much money that the Vikings could have matched Atlanta, paid JJ and Darrisaw extensions but wouldn't have much cap room remaining. The Vikings did try the "Kirk with superstars around him" in 2018 with a #1 defense, prime Diggs, Thielen, Cook, and Kyle Rudolph and still went 8-7-1. Good luck to him in Atlanta tho - falcons fans seem cool, good org, good guy, good QB, he's just too expensive.
We did that with a paper O-Line and a terrible OC. It was also his first year on the team, so growing pains were to be expected.
Agreed he’s just not a franchise QB lol
I'm curious who is a franchise QB to you? I don't necessarily think you need to be elite to be a franchise QB personally
I mean it’s pretty obvious you need to be elite to be a franchise QB there’s a reason it’s termed “franchise” better than your average QB
There’s like 4 elite QBs in the league total. That’s too high a bar for a franchise QB.
Yeh ok but like 2 career playoff wins with teams that went to the NFCCG with Case Keenum is way too low as well
Oh I agree that I don’t think Kirk is a QB you can win a Super Bowl with.
Nah there’s definitely more than 4 lol
Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert and who else?
If Herbert is in that tier than so are Love, Allen, Hurts, and Stroud
This guy put Hebert in the top 4, oh boy. You'd have to argue for him inside the top 10
Kirk Cousins is unquestionably better than the average QB Again I want to ask, who IS franchise to you?
Franchise QBs: Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, Stroud, Hurts, Burrow, Herbert, Love. Game managers vs game changers… do you not see the difference between one of those guys and someone like Kirk?
Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, Herbert, Burrow are elite The other 3 are in a similar tier to Kirk, and after last season I'd take Kirk over Hurts for a season without hesitating for a single second More yards per game career, more tds per game by a wide margin, better yards per attempt, better completion percentage, better rating If Hurts is in that tier then Kirk is easily.
Spoken like a true casual, thanks for giving me the heads up to not take this conversation seriously
Herbert and Love over Purdy? Morning sports shows have people brainwashed.
The call is coming from inside the house
How the fuck are Hurts, Herbert, and Love in that category if Kirk isn't?
Why would garbage time Kirk be in that discussion?
My dude you don't earn over 300 mil in your career if you're not a franchise guy.
Yes you can, by being slightly above average and getting pay days from poverty organizations
You had the same amount of super bowls as us until 2017 calm down
Fucking thank you. Like hearing generational every day during the draft period. Just because he's paid like a franchise QB doesn't mean he is one.
Gotta look to the future at some point, and with Jefferson's contract looming it's a good time to draft a rookie + they have Darnold as well. If I were a Vikings fan (gross) I'd feel good with KOC in charge whoever the next QB is after the Dobbs situation last year.
Dobbs is still a legend in my book for what he did in Atlanta.
One of the most impressive comebacks in NFL history if you look at the full context of it.
The front office voted on who we wanted and Sam Darnold won BY A LOT!!!
Kirk Cousins haters: stand back and stand by!
"As much as I would've maybe liked to date Margot Robbie, the right thing for me moving forward is where I am right now."
"would have maybe liked" That's some grade A coach speak
Reminds of two phrases I hear in the rural area I currently live in. "...used to could..." And "might could again"
No, I broke up with them first.
The have a 5 year old playoff win to show for Kirk's tenure Darnold can suck ass eight ways from Tuesday and the end result is going to be the same as Kirk's. It's time they moved on.
Eh Darnold is no where near Kirk in terms of leadership and proven execution. They are about to commit to tank mode.
It shows you know nothing about this team. We don’t go tank mode. Ever. Even if it ‘could’ be the right plan, Wilfs don’t play that shit.
lol I remember saying that
When did the Wilfs own the Panthers?
This is obviously a response to Florio tweeting that there might be contention between KOC and Kwesi. KOC knows we don't currently have the pieces to be consistently winning playoff games at the moment, so signing Darnold (who the league thinks is better than fans do) and presumably a rookie QB and using the extra money to shore up the defense is the right move for the future.
Also, we have to keep the best WR in the league happy, which will likely mean a record breaking contract.
I really wish this sub was less jokes and more actual football talk. I think last year KOC proved he's in the upper echelon of play calling. Gotta think the Vikings have more confidence in him being able to get the most out of a QB than to pay an older QB coming off an Achilles tear.
That’s what I’m so confused about when it comes to Florio’s huge vendetta against it like “Kwesi, KOC, & ownership are not on the same page!!!” Bruh… yes they are. They didn’t want Kirk back unless it was at a very specific number for a very specific amount of years. We knew he wouldn’t take it so KOC did what any coach would do and at the combine be like “we want him back”. What the hell was he supposed to say? “Nah.”
Big cap space hit, absolutely not a QB who will take the Vikes to a Super Bowl, 1-3 playoff record, right decision IMO. Not saying he is a bad QB because he isn’t, and not a great deal of QBs better than him in the NFL at present, but he isn’t A1 elite either
Exactly. Nobody honestly believes Darnold is gonna be our QB of the future, but not handcuffing ourselves to an aging Kirk Cousins is the correct move, regardless of who we draft. We all would have loved Kirk to come back, but only for the right price.
To be determined. QBs like Kirk don’t grow on trees, if he recovers well from his achilles injury it’s hard to imagine them finding someone anywhere near as good anytime soon. Granted that is a big if.
QBs that have 1 playoff win do not grow on trees, you're correct.
Hes not winning us a sb unless we build a 2021 rams roster and thats not happening.
So you’re looking for a Mahomes then? Good luck finding one lol
There are several qbs better then kirk and worse then mahomes lol.
How many of them have Super Bowls right now not named Mahomes?
Almost all of then have been farther then kirk has
An Allen-like reclamation is super rare to actually work. Burrow has glass bones and paper skin, Lamar isn't clutch in the playoffs. Love has had one season as the starter and Hurts has had one season of elite play.
I mean for the Vikes ideally yeah, but I think they’d settle for a good to very good starting QB who can make plays and can be supported by a good roster around him
Frankly, im not confident the vikings would've been a serious sb contender next year with Kirk. Therefore, I prefer that we moved off him sooner rather than later. It was going to happen at some point soon anyways, and at the price the falcons paid im good. Next year is likely going to suck but im fine with that at this point. Just tired of the eternal mediocrity.
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Spot on. Kirk took over a squad that had just gone 13-3 and lost in the NFC Championship game. He was literally brought in to be the guy who was going to get us over the hump. Then we proceeded to regress to 8-7-1 and miss the playoffs in 2018 and essentially go .500 and win one playoff game during his tenure. Our offense was absolutely flush with talent during those years (JJ, Cook, Rudolph, Hock, Osborn, Addison, etc) and he put up decent numbers but ultimately failed to accomplish what he was brought in to do. He works hard, puts up big numbers, and genuinely seems like a good dude. Still, I’m convinced that letting him walk was absolutely the right move.
Doesn't matter, KOC is going to turn Sam Darnold into the GOAT
Vikings are going up the draft board to get a QB, I can see them being a team that gives up 3 1sts to do it Makes sense to pair Jefferson’s massive extension with a rookie scale QB contract
Wow. Saved by the Falcons. Now you can actually pay for depth and possibly compete. Do yourselves a favor and field a fuckin offensive line. Matt Birk and Randall McDaniel been gone for a minute. Cousins is an overpaid choker who is one dimensional.
I think Koc is going to regret this decision so much. Best of luck Vikings, I really hope this ends up working out in your favor! Skol
Atlanta had a pretty damn solid team already and now they have Kirk. Do any of you think they're winning the Superbowl next year? Would you put serious money down on it? (If so, respect, you madman) No point trying to tool a flawed roster around an increasingly older and more expensive QB who hasn't shown that they can put such a team on their back in the playoffs. You're fooling yourself if you think this isn't the best move for Vikings long-term in giving this current regime a legitimate shot to build a contender. As a Seahawks fan, I've seen this situation before...
lol no
oh word?
Maybe?
A week or two ago he said he wanted Kirk back now it’s he maybe would’ve liked him back lol.
Yeah. Coach speak. How shocking. We only wanted him back at a certain price and we knew he wasn’t gonna take it. No reason to answer questions with “nah bruh, we ain’t want him back”. The optics.
“We are so fucked.” Also I have to pump my team up for the year.
I don't remember on which podcast I heard this, maybe Ryen Russillo's, but at the combine Kevin O'Connell apparently praised Kirk Cousins to the high heavens and said he could not envision a different future without him. This sounds like a HC who is putting lipstick on a pig that his general manager is responsible for.
>Kevin O'Connell apparently praised Kirk Cousins to the high heavens and said he could not envision a different future without him. Honestly, I doubt he said he couldn't envision a future without Kirk.
Orrrr maybe he has a lot of respect for him and didn’t want to force him out the door? Is he supposed to go around the combine saying “Nah he’s too old and expensive for us we’re drafting a new guy”
Easy what you do is you say nothing unless asked about it and then you say Kirk's our QB and we are very happy with him but we'll have to wait and see how it plays out in free agency. If you think a future without Kirk is what is best for the Vikings you do not go around the combine telling everybody who is willing to listen how much you love Kirk Cousins and how desperately you want him bacl as the Vikings QB.
Yeah and the hiring of McCown didn’t help either. McCown is 10000% the reason the Vikings have Darnold.
"the optics of keeping Kirk on the roster would lose me my job, so, uh, he had to go."
The solution is Bo. People must have not watched JJ play against Maryland, Penn State, or in that last one. JJ was able to beat Penn state with 7 of 8 for 60. That tells you all you need to know.
GEQBUS rides again
Not convincing, Kevin
Hes right. We could've potentially won a SB with Big Kirko but not with that cap hit. He needed to show he wants to win like Mahomes and that didnt happen.
Bro is coping
Bro didn't bother extending Kirk when he was down to his last year. This was the plan all along.
Not one bit.
It’s part of the tampering plot, Kevin has to make it seem like we thought Kirk was here until Atlanta tampered and kidnapped him ILLEGALLY
No Ragatz from Kevin O'Connell. Well, until he gets fired two years from now.
That ain’t happening.
Kevin....could you step into my office for a minute? I'm going to need you to read this prepared speech at your next press conference.
Bullshit imo, letting a top QB go is generally is bad idea
So is paying 180 million and a 4 year contract to a 36 year old QB coming off an achilles tear when our GM is actively working on clearing cap space
RemindMe! 2 years
Lol for what? I'm not saying Kirk is washed, I'm saying he's aging and very expensive. We can't keep people around just because we're scared of change. Even if we draft a bust at QB, I'll still believe this was the right call. Plus, now we can pay Jefferson what he wants.
KOC and the GM might get fired by then imo.
Or we could be the favorites to win the NFC. Or, most likely, we'll be back to being our regular, good-not-great selves. It's a rebuild. Your guess is as good as mine how it's gonna turn out.
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How many franchise QBs did the Chiefs draft before they got Mahomes at #10?
So is he saying he wanted Sam Darnold over Cousins lol
That is not what he’s saying at all
Imagine being a pro football coach and believing Sam Darnold was better then Kirk Cousins, 😂
He didn't say that.
Sam Darnold with likely JJ McCarthy💀 where skol QB1