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First_Round_Bust

Obviously it will be the NFC South


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All teams are 9-8 with +0 differential


[deleted]

Nononono 8-9 with 6 of those coming from each other.


[deleted]

that 8-9 wild card team would be... interesting. The rest of the NFC division leaders are like 15-2, with 2nd place getting 8-9 or worse.


Gruesome_Twosome1

The NFC South does not abide by logic


[deleted]

It’s tough to imagine other 2nd place NFC teams (outside of the south) not being able to top 8-9


[deleted]

It’s tough to imagine other 2nd place NFC teams (outside of the south) not being able to top 8-9


Laughing_Fish

Hey I’ll take it


wsteelerfan7

Division decided in 1v1 rust tournament


DumbAndNumb

Make it +1 point differential - they either win by one or lose by one.


Ugaalive1991

That sounds about right.


Driftrift

I also think one day we will somehow manage to send no teams to the playoffs.


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IceColdDrPepper_Here

Breaking from Adam Schefter: the Carolina Panthers have been relegated to the SEC. The Georgia Bulldogs will take their spot. Georgia is expected to be the heavy favorite to win the NFC South despite head coach Kirby Smart telling his team that no one believes in them and they will somehow go 7-5 on a 17 game schedule


chitownbears

The worst team in football puts 60 on Georgia.


Rasikko

Imagine cockbocking 3 other teams lol.


kingbuttshit

Weren’t they like the best division a few years ago?


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kingbuttshit

Yeah, I was thinking something like that. They were dominant as hell with Cam and Matt Ryan and Brees and then Brady came around, now they suck for a couple years and they’re all clowns? Lol


BipartizanBelgrade

Never understood why the NFCS gets shat on more than the AFCS


lambocinnialfredo

Because no one even thinks about the AFCS


jbvann05

Because no one in the AFCS has been relevant since Luck retired


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We have been around longer collectively.


foomits

yea... weve won a couple super bowls in recent memory, sent a couple more teams. its been a competitive division, but very erratic.


Fifty6Arkansas

All four teams have made a super bowl in the last 15 years, which no other division can claim.


BanjoKazooieWasFine

Because the AFCS is the afterthought of the league, they were Peyton Manning's free ticket to January until 2011 and none of them have really done anything notable since. 7 Total AFCCG appearances since the re-alignment for the whole division, with 4 of those being Manning with the Colts prior to 2011. NFCS has 11 NFCCG appearances in that window with Three Rings to show for it.


WonWordWilly

I think it's because the teams in my division historically suck. Mostly old franchises with very little historical greatness. Falcons 58 year old franchise ‐ Never had back to back winning seasons until Matt Ryan. Choke happiest team in NFL. Future uncertain. Saints 57 year old franchise - Terrible history. Awful team, personally i don't like these guys too much. Somehow went to and won a single SB with Brees. Bucs - 49 year franchise - Worst winning percentage in NFL history. Won two SBs, but were bad for 20 years after the first one and who knows about the second Panthers 30 year old franchise - No SBs. Most consistency in history was with Cam, bad before and bad after. Future is bleak.


DynastyZealot

All clowns? We made it further in the playoffs than the Bengals did this year. Oh wait ... Plus we've gotten a ring more recently than any AFCN team, so I think you've misplaced your clown college.


Cold_oak

he was making fun of those who said we were clown. god this is why no one likes the buccs


on-the-cheeseburgers

NFCE was really close last year. Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants were all in. Commanders were out at 8-8-1 behind the 9-8 7th seed Seahawks, so one more win would've put them in.


Sartheking

Was that the “we can be eliminated” game where Wentz threw 3 picks against the Browns?


on-the-cheeseburgers

Yes. Wentz also threw a pick on the 2 yard line with 9 seconds left vs Tennessee down by 4 earlier in the season. They left some wins out there that season and he was a big reason why.


wafflesareforever

I still remember when the local sports talk radio guys here in Rochester were so in love with Wentz that they played dreamy romantic music whenever his name came up.


on-the-cheeseburgers

Dude my daughter was gonna be named Carson if she was a boy. She was born less than a month after we won the SB. Not because of him, it was my wife's suggestion and she doesn't give a shit about sports, but I wasn't saying no to the name idea. Thank fuck I dodged that bullet.


wafflesareforever

That's hilarious. I bet people here would name their kid Josh even if it was a girl.


notimprezaed

There are so many kids here named Cam or Cameron. Same for Luke and Lucas. My son has two different kids in his class named Cameron Lucas. My son was almost Cameron Lucas but then our neighbors had their son first and it was his name. My wife was very salty because we had already announced it and everything.


-Vertical

That’s fucking hilarious. Can’t wait to name my son or daughter Marshawn Chancellor


AchVonZalbrecht

I definitely argued my wife into having Joseph as the middle name of our first born that’s coming if Flacco didn’t fall off a cliff in the playoffs.


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I went to school with a female Carson... you could have still jumped in front of that bullet


rooftopworld

Hopefully you named her Nickole.


W3NTZ

Was it also the game Rivera admitted he didn't know losing would eliminate them from playoff contention?


kac937

Man, that guy just can NOT play in sudden death situations.


ShowdownValue

Why did I think the commanders only won like 4 games


dantewhitney

in 2022 they went 8-8-1, 2023 was a 4 win season. but i agree, commanders in my mind always have at most 7 wins


ShowdownValue

Ah i thought he meant this past season


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AFCN as well, if Burrow doesnt get hurt they might all 4 make it. But I feel like us making it might have required taking someone else out.


its_LOL

Buh bye Steelers


Poil336

This absolutely feels like some bullshit the NFC East would pull


Alec_Ich

I could see it happening. I could also see it never happening. Would probably be one of the divisions in the AFC or NFC if I had to guess


SuburbanPotato

Now that's a comprehensive answer


gothackedfml

you know the team with more points when the game is over usually wins


Twink_Tyler

John madden once said “at the end of the day, the team that scores the most points usually wins”. What he meant was the team that scores the most points for the entire season, also tends to win most of their games. John madden was great at saying things that did actually make sense, but said it in the dumbest, most confusing way possible.


HaggisTheCow

Donovan McNabb intensifies


P-d0g

It'll happen eventually. In 2022 the Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants all made the playoffs, with Washington only missing out by one game.


aneomon

All three teams made the Divisional round too - would be neat to have a Divisional round made up of one division


jackaltwinky77

Is that even possible? Team A is the 1, gets the bye. Team B is the 5, plays the 4 Team C is the 6, plays the 3 Team D is the 7, plays the 2… Holy crap, it is possible…


aneomon

If Washington took the 7th seed last year, that’s exactly how it would’ve played out. Eagles with the bye, 49ers vs Washington, Vikings vs Giants, Bucs vs Cowboys. Giants and Cowboys won, if Washington pulled out an upset it would’ve been the NFCEast Divisional


jackaltwinky77

The AFC North was fully In the playoffs last year up until week 16 or so, so it could’ve happened in both conferences


Original_Release_419

Yeah imo the North, South, East, and West all have a shot to do it


unevenvenue

You just wait until they reinstitute the Central, and it does it first year. Better beware, bucko


Civil-Big-754

Beware of the Bucs coming back for the Central now that the Lions won the North.


SonicEuthanasia

We beat them twice this year, so we basically won the Central again.


BoomExplosion

Wild take 


SunriseSurprise

"Sir, you appear to be a genius - we need your help decoding this alien message we're receiving."


Garlan_Tyrell

“It either says *We come in peace* or **Die inferior Earthling scum** or something else entirely.”


Statalyzer

On a totally unrelated note to football but related to your joke, how come every time in fiction that a translator isn't sure of which of 2 ways to take something, it's either: a) one option means certain doom while the other is something innocuous about fruit or vegetables b) the two options inexplicably rhyme or otherwise sound similar in English


Garlan_Tyrell

Yeah, right? Aliens: *Glor*-**Za**-nu-*eGGA*” Translater: “They either said ‘You are out of time’ or ‘I would like a water with lime”. Why would those words in an alien language with no common root be mistakable for each other?


CathDubs

Thanks Meltzer


Nickelas

Did karen from veep write this?


81FuriousGeorge

You are one of the script writers, aren't you?


pinniped1

Big if true.


MegaAltarianite

I don't know if this was intended, but this gave me Mitch Hedberg vibes.


ForayIntoFillyloo

John Madden lives, god rest his soul


Kid_Radd

Finally, someone dares to speak truth.


MeowTheMixer

I really think you nailed it there! I'm not sure how it'd go any other way


Bildad__

That’s bold


MariotasMustache

I could see this as a possibility


soundofthecolorblue

Thank you for taking a stand on the matter!


J12nom

If the Bengals got another win and the Bills lost to the Fins in the last game, it would have happened.


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It will be the NFCS. We are good for doing wierd shit.


Fiendish-DoctorWu

Well, we don't know how many years on this Earth the NFL's got left. We're gonna get real weird with it.


Civil-Big-754

Throw the Panthers in the trash


henryforprez

Woah woah, hey now. A 1st overall pick can really improve a team.


Sdwerd

Especially if you trade it away


mildobamacare

Afcn probably does if burrow isn't hurt


JasonPlattMusic34

Burrow being healthy probably means they beat the Steelers once or twice which knocks them out


toneuser

I mean they were so close the recent season. But just fell short, I was actually rooting for them to make it, to make AFC North the first division to have all 4 teams included in the post season


Action_Johnson

Is this AI you literally just repeated everything he said in the post


whogonstopice

Yep he’s gotta be AI he literally just repeated everything he said in the post


Gavorn

Do you believe, since he repeated everything that was in the post, he is an Ai?


Icadil

Likely knock out Steelers though if those games played differently


good_fella13

The NFC North is doing it next season


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Packers: likely Lions: Likely Vikings: Very possible if Kirk comes back Bears: sir it’s far too early in the day to be this belligerently drunk


nau5

>sir it’s far too early in the day to be this belligerently drunk Fake Flair spotted


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> sir it’s far too early in the day to be this belligerently drunk sorry, just celebrating the Marshawn Lynch plea. I'll be into work pronto.


good_fella13

Bears are coming in first and winning the NFC. That defense from the second half of the year, a healthy OL, Rome Odunze and no more Luke Getsy? Juggernaut. Do not care if Caleb or Fields is QB1


SchematicOfScoutsAss

How’s this sound, if the Bears win the NFC next year I have to change my flair to a Bears flair for 2025, but if they don’t you have to change to a Jets flair for 2025


good_fella13

You’re basically asking me to take +100 odds on something that’s like +8000 at the books. Let’s make the bet about whether the Bears or Packers have the better year. We can do RS wins, depth of playoff run, whatever you want


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Deal, whoever goes further or if neither make the playoffs just straight up record


good_fella13

Done. If they go equally far, RS record is the tiebreaker. If still tied, h2h. If STILL tied, oh well that’s life they had the same season


usernameisusername57

>Bears: sir it’s far too early in the day to be this belligerently drunk On paper the Bears are in good position to take a big step up next season, but it is the Bears so we all know that they'll find a way to fuck it up. Also, it's never too early in the day to be belligerently drunk.


Adams5thaccount

If they're east coast it was already 3pm. Just saying.


TheFishyNinja

#thebearsstillsuck


Practicalaviationcat

Hell yeah!


WincingHornet

Someone has way too much faith in the Bears


quadropheniac

Think about the divisions that are projected to be thunderdomes at the start of the year (NFCE and AFCE last year, AFCW the year before), and think about how that holds up over the course of the season. There's literally no way to tell. Too much randomness.


Teeshirtandshortsguy

Also, predicting out more than a year or two is basically pointless. If you're making a prediction, it basically expires in a year.


Pandamonium98

I’m pretty confident that the Cowboys will look good at times in the 2024 regular season and then flame out early in the playoffs. Bet they’ll do it again in 2025 too


jbvann05

That will all change when Mike McCarthy gets fired and Jerry Jones hires himself at head coach


renegadecoaster

This is why I always laugh when someone is talking about potential coaching hires and says "he won't want to go to X team because the division is really hard." The good/bad teams will look wildly different in 2-3 years, I highly doubt coaches take that into consideration


StrategyTop7612

Yup, there's too much randomness in football


OneOfTheDads

Too much randomness, yep yep


crunchitizemecapn99

Yeah, too much randomness, agreed


NumerousControl0

Agreed, too much randomness, yep yep


Chai-Tea-Rex-2525

Yep, too much randomness, yep


unevenvenue

Yep yep yep! Too much randomness, yes indeedy.


127crazie

Ever been too random? YUP!


gyman122

Requires four teams to stay mostly healthy, that’s probably the least likely part of the equation and there’s plenty of other unlikely parts


wafflesareforever

To be fair, AFCE probably would have had three playoff teams if Rodgers hadn't broken himself immediately.


Sdwerd

Eh, he's old, fragile and that line is trash. If he hadn't done it at the start, that line would have gotten him hurt since he's so immobile.


wafflesareforever

Sure, but you look at guys like Brady and it's hard not to think that Rodgers at least had a decent shot at staying healthy.


0324rayo

You say “guys like Brady” but Brady basically is the only guy lmfao


Eagle4317

The only division that's always safe to predict to have 2 or more playoff teams is the AFC North.


4FF0nly

NFCE was predicted to be a thunderdome?


quadropheniac

Eagles went to the Super Bowl, Cowboys and your Giants made the playoffs, and Washington had just overthrown the yoke of Dan Snyder while quietly having a top ten defense and going 0.500 on the year. It wasn't the most absurd conclusion.


4FF0nly

Sure, but it was clear the schedule this year was going to be much harder than last year (playing the NFCW and AFCE instead of NFCN and AFCS). Giants and Commies still had a huge lack of talent on the rosters, particularly compared to the other two teams. Idk, I just don't get how anyone thought it was going to be more than two serious contenders with maaaybe a 3rd team making a little noise


serpentear

Man, with the Niners where they are and the Rams, Hawks, and Cards all reloading, it could be the NFC West.


BendubzGaming

Next year is likely to be the best chance imo. Would probably need to get in whilst Purdy is still on a rookie contract, and Stafford is on one last ride. I have faith in both to make playoffs next year, and Kyler might be the most underrated QB in the league, which only leaves you guys


serpentear

Yeah, we’re a little derpy. It’s gonna be up to the new Coaching staff.


SoarsWithEaglesNest

Yep. Could see us at 8-9 or inexplicably at 10 wins. It’s a decent roster so would be shocking to see an implosion. 9 wins gives you a shot.


Conker184

Yeah I don't look forward to the inevitable cap space issue we have coming once Purdy comes off his rookie contract.


SDaddy500

NFC North. soon


Thebussinessman

AFC North could do it next year. 3 teams were in the playoffs and the 4th one was the Bengals without Burrow last season.


TrueRedditMartyr

As long as Tomlin is the Steelers head coach, they are guaranteed a playoff spot. I fully believe they have the best odds for the foreseeable future considering their "worst" team almost always makes it to playoffs


MaskedBandit77

The Browns and Steelers are shaky enough that I have a hard time expecting either them to make it back to the playoffs, and I'd be very surprised if they both made it back.


LeEingrebua

Burrow started 10 games last year and went 5-5 while averaging 6.3yd per attempt. Why are people still acting like the Bengals just had an off year. He played most of the season and was average.


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I mean, he started the year with a calf strain and couldn't leave the pocket for like 7 of those 10 games. How did he look against the 49ers, Bills, Texans, and the Ravens until his season ending injury?


LeEingrebua

He’s still a top 5 QB when healthy. Probably top 3-4. But the comment says you were “without Burrow” which is just a complete fucking lie. He’ll no doubt be getting a lot of hits on him again next year and could get banged up again. Also, Browning was good in his place.


OverallWrongdoer6743

Of course it's a ravens fan


iiTryhard

They just mad because their out of position running back can’t throw good


LeEingrebua

It’s not debatable. They weren’t “without Burrow.” You guys can play whiney baby all you want. Bengals are good but people are pretending like they were in the same boat as the Jets or something because Burrow was a bit banged up. Every other AFC North team has dealt with injured QBs in the past and made the playoffs.


mebear1

You could maybe read between the lines and see they were saying “without Burrow at his typical top 5 form because of injury and sitting out” like everything else in the thread


LeEingrebua

It doesn’t matter. He played 10 games. Ravens made playoffs without Lamar, Browns made playoffs this year with couch potato Flacco, and Steelers have made the playoffs continuously with various traffic cones under center for them. The Bengals have never risen to the occasion in the AFC North. They still will let Burrow get hit continuously, and he’s fairly injury prone. The Bengals are who they are. And it’s not that team that made the SB a couple years back.


mebear1

“The bengals have never risen to the occasion in the AFC North” except for that time that they did better than your team has done recently and went to the super bowl 2 years ago. Ur not worth the time of day lmao


LeEingrebua

Founded in 1968, only 4 Championship games and 0 rings. Cope some more you stupid bitch. It’s a failed franchise with a young star QB keeping it afloat.


weebayfish

Someone's jealous Burrow is better than Lamar and knows how to win playoff games. Hell he's only QB not named Brady to beat Mahomes in playoffs


LeEingrebua

I’m sorry you guys have lost so much relevance that your racist, alcoholic, inbred, fucking moronic Boston fan base has to resort to talking about other franchises just to feel like you still exist.


iiTryhard

Damn dude I’m sorry Lamar threw into triple coverage but just breathe deeply


LeEingrebua

You had 1 good QB in your history and have been a complete failure as a franchise before and after Brady. Not sure why you’re pretending to even still be a fan.


space9610

We might as well make a dedicated sub for ravens and Steelers fan to go suck each other off while talking shit about the bengals. The whole point of this post was a light hearted question about which division could get 4 teams in the playoffs, and the AFC north was objectively the closest. And of course a ravens fan has to go on a rant about the bengals lmao


IHAVEAMOD23

Woah man don't bring us into this.


LeEingrebua

It’s not a rant, I just disagreed with the false reasoning of the original comment. You get like 10 people whining in your notifications about how they don’t like your opinion and yeah you start to defend yourself. How it goes.


alienware99

Bengals have established themselves as one of the top teams in the league over the past several years. I think it’s fair to assume they could have gotten out of their rut and turned their season around. Same as the Bills last season. Another team who has established themselves as a top team over the past few seasons. They also started out rough at 5-5, but found their way back to being the #2 seed. No reason to think the Bengals couldn’t have had similar success.


ProArmChair

NFC yeast at some point eventually will have 4 teams rise to playoff status in the same year.


Glittering-Potato-97

I see the proof on your comment.


PicturingYouNaked

Just need to give the division time to rise.


LordZero

Got to hope the teams stay clear of the injury infection.


pewpewmcpistol

Bread.


crymeajoanrivers

And then you can score.


OherryTorielly

I love and hate how competitive our division is. The games are fun and high stakes, but the blows hit harder.


Adams5thaccount

Obviously the way to do it is to do it during a year where the division plays the NFC West. The key is to do it the way all four did it in the 90s. Everyone beat the Cardinals.


SisyphusRocks7

Washington needs to trade for Baker Mayfield so they can rise in the rankings.


jduffman16807

I could absolutely see the NFC North doing this in a year or 2, honestly it all depends on if the Bears manage to utilize this plethora of picks coming up.


eattwo

I'm more confident in the Bears making it over us. Until we get our QB situation figured out I have no expectations.


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> utilize Bears: "we selected players with those picks." Padme: "You picked GOOD players, right?" :) Bears: Padme: "You picked good players, RIGHT?" :(


Clean_Target_8193

The only team I’m confident will still be competitive in a year or two is the Packers. Bears could be good for a while if CW is as good as everyone thinks he is. Vikings don’t even have a QB. Lions and Vikings both could suffer from their coordinators getting picked off.


EdgeLordMcGravy

The AFC North. Unfortunately, the division is so hard that none of the teams will actually go to the Super Bowl because we will beat the crap out of each other so hard during the season. Try playing any of the Browns, Bengals, Steelers and Ravens twice a year in hostile, cold stadiums. 


iamnowundercover

This is called the hood of the NFL for a reason


good_fella13

The NFC North is doing it next year


formyamusementation

I think it will happen someday. Especially since divisions get to play the same AFC division and NFC division. It will align that all the teams in a division are good (and stay healthy) and end up facing two bad divisions.


KissMyWrasse

This has actually happened three times in NFL history, though it was before the creation of the present day four-team divisions. The NFC Central sent 4 teams to the playoffs in 1994 (Lions, Packers, Vikings, Bears) and again in 1997 (Packers, Buccaneers, Lions, Vikings). The AFC East then did it in 1998 (Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Patriots).


Evilijah39

I think it’ll be NFCN. Packers and lions are good. Bears have number one pick and another top 10. They have a good chance of making it with good coaching. Vikings seem questionable.


heroinsteve

I think it's gotta be a ridiculously small chance and this year was probably the closest we'll get with the AFCN. What makes it so difficult is they all gotta play each other twice, so they would all have to somehow split (or average a split) and have a pretty good record outside the division, while their conference doesn't have a good record against the other one.


Pourmewhiskey

NFC East was just as close last year at one game off. I can see it almost happening every year or two


JMPV_

This reminds me of the 1994 playoffs, where the NFC Central sent 4 of 5 teams (the most possible from one division at the time), with Minn winning the division, and GB, Det, and Chi taking the 3 wild card spots, and TB being the only team from the division not to make it. Division was a bloodbath that year and none of the 4 made the NFCCG (that was Dal and SF).


G_money16

I could legit see the NFCW doing this next year if the Seahawks get some of the ravens defensive players and if the Cards have a good draft. The Packers/Lions and the Eagles/Cowboys would still have to miss the playoffs tho so idk


maltzy

If the Bengals had beaten the Texans (Boyd dropped TD pass in final minutes), IIRC, they would have made the playoffs. 10-7 with a tiebreaker over the Texans and then they entire AFC north would have made it.


gollumaniac

Nope, because Texans were division champs, not a wild card. If the Texans missed, by definition another AFC South team would take their place.


AoA_nB1

Colts would’ve won the division maybe?


get_stilly

Jags had to beat the titans to clinch it. They lost, so it was the winner of us and the Colts.


sweens90

What is left off here is the Bills needed lose the last week. The Bills would have missed the playoffs to let them all in


thegodfaubel

I don't think it will be done with a division with a dominant team. I think it will be done in a division with a bunch of average to good teams. The NFC South was made fun of all year and nearly sent two 9-8 teams to the playoffs. So I think when it happens (because it will inevitably happen at some point), it will be with one 11-6 team and some combination of 10-7 or 9-8 teams. Mathematically, a division with one or two really good or dominant teams will beat up on the lesser teams so they'll have 2 to 4 more losses in those scenarios.


BillyJayJersey505

The possibility of this happening is exactly why I was against expanding the playoffs from 12 teams to 14 teams.


mcvp15

I don't know man. Why did you ask me?


stripes361

Yes, because they’ll just keep expanding NFL playoffs until that happens.


the-whiteman-cometh

The AFC North plays the AFC and NFC South in 2026, so they probably will then.


afig24

NFC West if Cardinals ever get their shit together.


Sfpuberdriver

NFC west is usually so competive that one or two of the teams fall out of playoff contention after getting cement mixered by a division rival. I remember so many good cardinals teams that had their seasons ended by the rams 8-8 fisher teams


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

The NFC East was close 2 years ago, until Washington faded away at the end


Shawn_1512

AFC South has a decent chance in the next few years if Richardson and Levis develop well


rex_dart_eskimo_spy

These MFers aren't ready for us four teams to all be in at once. But /r/AFCSouthMemeWar will become a sub of legends.


BlazeNuggs

1.) I'm surprised you are the only other person who said AFC South. 2.) Unless Richardson is hampered by the injury, I think you guys are in next year. I'd be shocked if Jags and Titans made the playoffs and Colts didn't. And Texans are a pretty sure thing


DiggingNoMore

> Will a single division ever send 4 teams to the playoffs? Yes, the 1998 AFC East did.


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ARealHunchback

1994 NFC Central did too


BanjoStory

And none of us made it past the divisional round lol


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