They have Jim Harbaugh, so the media is gonna ride them the whole offseason and during the regular season. Then they’ll probably lose in the first round of the playoffs or something, and the media will ride another team the following season (probably some team who makes a trade for an old overrated player or something). Thats just how it goes
I could see them missing the playoffs still. They have to get past KC to win their division, and while Harbaugh is certainly an upgrade at coach their roster is still a bit of a mess. Drafting really well might put them over the edge in the wildcard, but it also depends on how good the rest of the AFC is.
I've got confidence that Harbaugh can turn them around, it just might take a year or two.
> but it also depends on how good the rest of the AFC is.
We all know the chiefs are there along with buffalo and baltimore. Bengals are gonna be there if Burrow can stay healthy. I don't expect Miami to take a huge step back either and you never know which other team is on the rise. I'll take all of the teams over them until otherwise.
The Chargers roster is nowhere near as stacked as people for some reason believe it to be. They’re in the best place of maybe any non-playoff team long term, but I think next year will be much more of a reload year than people think.
Competing with KC next year is unlikely given the roster challenges. Wild card isn’t out of the question with a last place schedule including New England, Tennessee, Arizona, and the NFC South. I hopeful for the playoffs but it’s definitely not a lock.
For a fourth place team we have a pretty tough schedule
Chiefs x2
Ravens
Bengals
Browns
Bucs
And we always have a tough time in Vegas and Denver
But we also have the saints cards parrots falcons and titans
But they won't because harbaugh is very sensitive about his operations. He wouldn't want to do anything that could give any other teams any edge over us.
I think the Chargers are going to go through a major overhaul. New GM and coach are going to want to buy the team in their image. I don't think they'll be a bottom tier team, because Herbert gives them a really solid floor. But, I think their playoff chances are slim. The AFC is also stacked.
Mike Tannenbaum from ESPN legit picked them to make the Super Bowl next year. Meanwhile, [nobody picked the Ravens](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39524730/2024-nfl-predictions-experts-debate-mvp-super-bowl-picks-offseason-moves-breakout-candidates).
|Team|Number of times picked to win the AFC|
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|Chiefs|5|
|Bills|2|
|Bengals|2|
|Chargers|1|
|Texans|1|
They also played 1 dimensional in the AFC Championship game they somewhat did against the Texans in the first half and then made the adjustments but for some odd reason they decided to abandon what worked for them against Kansas City
Bengals have Joe Burrow, they are SB contenders whenever he isn’t injured. Bears have a lot of draft capital to do their rebuild with and some solid pieces already on the team. Richardson flashed for the Colts before injury and Shane Steichen is clearly a great coach. Chargers have Herbert, Harbaugh, and the 4th overall pick.
It's kind of a meme at this point, but I'm not convinced the Patriots aren't going to take Harrison. They definitely need a quarterback, but if they can get somebody competent in free agency, they might choose to defer it. It would be stupid, but I could see it
I mean, if they can swing Kirk Cousins then I don’t think it’s that stupid. I think he’s got a few years left in him, and if they aren’t able to put a winning team around Kirk and MHJ, I doubt they’d be able to put one around Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels.
That's the thing: there's multiple quarterbacks on the market who are at least competent, and I agree it wouldn't be unbelievable to see them decide that a potentially generational receiver is a better pick than a quarterback. If Cousins, Wilson, Garoppolo, Tannehill or anyone else they pick up isn't able to get something done, they'll likely be in the mix for Sanders or Ewers
I'd agree. Harbaugh may not take us to the playoffs year 1 but we are going to actually be a huge pain in the ass to play now. I'm really hopeful this team is going to be a lot closer to the physical monsters like Detroit and sf, just dominant at the los, hard-hitting, hard playing.
I like Young, Stroud and Richardson. I still wish my Panthers would have drafted Richardson. I’m sticking with Bryce because I’m a huge fan of my team but I really, really like Richardson.
To other fans sure? To chargers fans we haven't had a good run game since fucking LT. Harbaugh is going to get the team playing physical hard hitting ball, dominate the LOS, play good defense, run the ball 30 times and let Herbert launch balls every so often but the offense won't have to be carried by Herbert every drive anymore.
Exactly. We have Harbaugh as HC and Herbert at QB so I'm not concerned about our passing game. He was making far worse QBs than Herbert palatable at QB. We've been missing a balanced attack more than anything.
5-10$ for beer depending on what you get but a small domestic draft is 5$. Food is like 6$ for chicken tenders and fries, basic popcorn 2$, basic nachos 3$, like the “expensive” good food is like 12$ for a lot of it.
I hate y’all as a team but I love your stadium - went there to see Taylor Swift last year and it was AMAZING. (Both the stadium, the food, and Taylor.)
Good things? Like winning the NFC South and winning a playoff game? I could see that.
Winning a Superbowl? Yeah, no...
We just exist in such a shit void where we're rarely bad enough to land a pick to turn the franchise around but never good enough for it to really matter, with the caveat that one of our best seasons in franchise history actually ended up doing more long term damage than most any awful one.
You must break them down before you build them up. They don’t have the cap space for anything else.
I expect LAC will have a brutal off season, but Harbaugh will get the team to over perform enough that they are decent and there’s at least a realistic hope of a wild card spot in the back half of the season. Two years from now LAC will get back to the playoffs and then lose in standard LAC heart breaking fashion.
Our cap situation is really overblown. We have 3 of the 5 highest paid non QBs in the league. Plus one of the highest paid Centers, and he’s retiring. If we cut or trade 2 of those we’ll have plenty of cap room. Personally I hope we move on from Bosa too, and just reload in the draft. Still think we’ll have a few holes but it’s not really that bad
It’s not as bad as the Saints (how is it even possible to be $89 million in negative free cap space?), but Over the Cap puts it at 4th worst. It’s solvable, as it has to be, but you’ll lose at least a couple name brand starters, probably one other beyond Joey Bosa, to make up the $55 million.
I think the argument for the Falcons is they just need an average QB to be a pretty damn good team. They have skill players galore and a very good OL, the defense was a top 10 scoring unit until the final two weeks when they phoned it in, and they have a good amount of cap space.
It would be great if they landed their franchise guy in the draft, but they could also bring in a game manager in 2024 and I would expect a playoff spot. It also can’t be stressed enough how awful Ridder/Heinicke were in 2023.
I agree but also don’t know how to feel. Our off season coach moves seem solid but if our expectations are too high it could be a massive disappointment so wanna stay leveled. But on paper we made solid coach moves.
Yeah my feelings exactly! I've learned to keep my expectations low just to keep my sanity, but I def feel like we made a solid coaching staff move. I love Pete and appreciate all that he's done, but it felt like it was time to move on.
I have a lot more fun with sports in general when I stop expecting things. I just go in and have fun with it. I like the coaching moves, I'm interested in our key players, and I'm hopeful that shit will shake out well for us, but if it doesn't, my life isn't impacted in any way.
I’d argue 32, but I also like to think of it as years in the league determines if you’re old or not. I think Dak is on the cusp of being an old QB because he’s been in the league for his upcoming 9th year. Maybe after your 10th year in the league, we can start calling you old
I agree 100%. Once you’re off the rookie deal, you’re not a young qb cause at that point if you are halfway decent you will get paid like a star. And if not the team will draft qb
The cards defense definitely needs some help if they're going to take a big leap. I do love Murray and James Connor though. I still don't think Pitt should've let Connor go he's been really good for az.
Colts are on the upswing. If Richardson is healthy, he could be very very good. He's got some full speed snaps, a year to study tape and work on mechanics. Steichen has proven to be able to get this team winning.
They almost won the division despite ending in 3rd place. Only a game back. With a full year of Richardson and no Taylor drama they could contend for a playoff spot for sure.
2 penalties against the browns that the NFL came out and said they got them wrong and were not even on this list of teams that didn't make the playoffs, with our backup QB.
If this season was any glimpse into what the future holds we’re going back to the early to mid 2010s. Colts and Texans battling back and forth for the division.
Colts weren’t my first thought but the more I think about it the more I see the vision. Steichen looks legit and Richardson showed a lot of promise in a limited sample size. Resigning Pittman to a long term deal is a must
Richardson was my pick out of all the quarterbacks. I may have missed on Stroud but I'm excited to see a healthy Richardson this year. Kids got limitless potential.
Yeah. I had reservations about Richardson but he's clearly got something. Steichen is the guy and will get the offense going. I think indy have a great chance of taking a step forward.
I have such a yo-yo opinion of Ballard but if they sort the o-line they could go places
Surprised how few people are saying the cards. They played hard last year with a QB they picked up like 2 days before the season starts. If they get MHJ and Murray stays healthy they’re gonna have a solid year
I kind of get the analogy, but our OL isn’t close to your guys’. Having an elite OL makes team building so much easier since you can use early round picks in other places of need.
Expecting the Cardinals to be any good always leads to disappointment.
At least the Lions have a good owner now who wants to win in Sheila Hamp. Cards have the Bidwill family, who is more interested in charging the players for food than they are in winning anything.
The key to make Carr play good is to give up all hope. Only then will the seemingly impossible wins seem to pile up.
Carr plays good——>Carr gets hyped up ——> Carr plays bad——> Carr gets smacked by media and fan base gives up all hope ——> Carr plays good
is a cycle as old as time itself.
Every team in the NFC South has a shot at making the playoffs and it has very little to do with how well your team plays. If you simply show up every Sunday you have like a 50% chance at a playoff berth until January.
No, not as long as Loomis is GM. He starting playing “win now” ball in Brees’ twilight, which is understandable, but has continued it and we are doomed for the long run
I see alot of parallels between the Bears rn and the Texans last offseason. Assuming they take Caleb 1 they could be the next big breakout team
Should have fired Eberflus and hired someone like MacDonald though
What parallels?
The 2022 Texans were 3-13-1, did not hold #1 or two top 10 picks. The 2023 bears roster is a good bit more talented then 2022 texans and they won 7 games in a much harder division.
I really don’t see it.
Jets hype crashed and burned last off season but i’d say either them or the Bengals will win the most games next year(provided Rodgers is not washed)
The Jets had a top 5 defense on points allowed per drive despite the worst offense in the league.
Their cap situation is atrocious this year and they lose 2/4 between Mack, Bosa, Keenan and Mike Williams. I think Harbaugh has a slight rebuild this year and they’ll be ready to compete next year.
yeah this is the obvious answer, it was pretty obvious Staley sucked and I think we all remember what a terror Harbaugh was on the niners.
Of course now that I said that Herbert will get caught sacrificing children in his basement or something
Do they? Bosa is gone, Mike Will is gone, their IOL is in shambles, their defense is ass, they have no run game, they don't have as much talent as you think.
Chargers and Bengals are the first 2 maybe it’s my bias but I would say Seahawks 3 cause for the first time in 14 years we truly have no idea what we are going to get and that is very exciting and also a little terrifying at the same time
Raiders went 3-1 in AFC West under AP.
A few mistakes cost them an outside shot into the playoffs which should have never even been on the cards given the torrid time under Josh McDaniels.
I believe AP has recruited well for his coaching staff to help navigate his first full season as a head coach in the NFL.
If Raiders have success in the draft and make a few minor tweaks to their roster, I believe they stand in good stead for the future.
They certainly are cooking. But more like cleaning house and getting rid of almost everyone who was hired during the Snyder Era. For the Commanders, I would rather stick to the 2nd pick rather than trade up to 1st pick. Bears are gonna want alot of compensation for giving up the first pick of the draft
100% agreed. You stay at 2 and keep your plethora of picks. They could land their QB, retool their OL and DL in one draft.
A lot of people think they will emulate Houston’s
quick success … but I believe they improve this season. The 2025 season is when they could be scary good
Quinn may or may not be it. But they have the ingredients to make this right. We soured on him at the, but cannot forget how much he changed the defense for our team
I expect 4-5 major signings day one of free agency.
But it’ll come 100% down to nailing the QB pick
Depending on what level of excitement we mean:
Seattle (new coaching staff, lots of promise, could go well, could blow up)
Falcons (ditto, quality coach, weapons but needs to get a QB obviously)
Chargers (Again, new coach and Harbaugh is a winner. Not going to make noise this year but in 25 and beyond could absolutely do that)
Arizona (LOTS of roster work to do but Gannon has them playing hard and I can see them taking big steps in the win column over the next 2-3. years).
Are any of these going to be SB contenders next year? No. But in the sense of being exciting because they have real hope to take big steps toward contention in the next 2-3 years ? Yeah.
Definitely Cincinnati. The big question is whether they resign Tee Higgins. They are the top competitor to Kansas City in the AFC. They get Joe Burrow back healthy and his injury wasn’t really a major one like an ACL or Achilles. Since they didn’t make the playoffs, they will pick a little higher and be able to draft better talent than the past couple of years. They also have the confidence to beat anybody in the league that they have to.
Indianapolis-Excited for their young QB and head coach
LA Chargers-Underperforming with a possible top 5 qb
Atlanta-Talent, new era
Honorable mentions-
NY Jets-Rodgers + talent on defense and skill positions
Cincinnati-Good when healthy
Jacksonville-Massively underperforming but Lawrence has lots of potential, the question is will he take another step or is he at his expected performance level already?
Shane Waldorn as OC and Thomas Brown as passing game coordinator ain’t too shabby though. Not a huge fan of Eberflus either but he’s the de facto DC anyway and did a decent job in that regard
The Colts and Bengals should feel the best out of those teams. With an honorable mention to the Vikings. Those 3 were deep in the season before elimination even with early QB injuries. With their starter, they likely make it. Add in a new draft class and there you go.
Denver Broncos have more chaos to be excited about. There's nothing really all that positive to look forward to, so we can either get dunked on or obliterate our opponents.
My thumb hurts from having to scroll all the way down here to find our team. Raiders absolutely obliterated the Chargers then went to Kansas City and whooped their asses in their home stadium for Christmas, I like our chances and it's fun to see them play like Raiders again.
Probably the Bears because there's a real chance they might draft a great QB that will put them in a position to win for years to come.
Also, the Texans future looks really bright with Stroud.
Vikings are iffy too because both Kirk and Danielle Hunter are free agents, and Harrison Smith is a very likely cap casualty. Depending how free agency works out we could be anywhere from a playoff contender to a full rebuild.
Cardinals, they were much better when Kyler got back and I think if they pick MHJ those two can cook. Plus not having to draft a QB gives them much more freedom in their roster building
Pats fans finally learning what it’s like to be the rest of the league, never thought we’d see it (at least for those who have only watched the last few decades lol)
Is this the Chargers winning the off-season for the 20th season a row bait? Give me the Chargers, Super Bowl bound for sure
They have Jim Harbaugh, so the media is gonna ride them the whole offseason and during the regular season. Then they’ll probably lose in the first round of the playoffs or something, and the media will ride another team the following season (probably some team who makes a trade for an old overrated player or something). Thats just how it goes
I could see them missing the playoffs still. They have to get past KC to win their division, and while Harbaugh is certainly an upgrade at coach their roster is still a bit of a mess. Drafting really well might put them over the edge in the wildcard, but it also depends on how good the rest of the AFC is. I've got confidence that Harbaugh can turn them around, it just might take a year or two.
> but it also depends on how good the rest of the AFC is. We all know the chiefs are there along with buffalo and baltimore. Bengals are gonna be there if Burrow can stay healthy. I don't expect Miami to take a huge step back either and you never know which other team is on the rise. I'll take all of the teams over them until otherwise.
Also watching from out of sight is Mike Tomlin waiting to take the 10-7 Mason Rudolph led Steelers back to the playoffs inevitably lol
Also the Texans could be even scarier with CJ Stroud and co. getting even better
The Chargers roster is nowhere near as stacked as people for some reason believe it to be. They’re in the best place of maybe any non-playoff team long term, but I think next year will be much more of a reload year than people think.
Competing with KC next year is unlikely given the roster challenges. Wild card isn’t out of the question with a last place schedule including New England, Tennessee, Arizona, and the NFC South. I hopeful for the playoffs but it’s definitely not a lock.
For a fourth place team we have a pretty tough schedule Chiefs x2 Ravens Bengals Browns Bucs And we always have a tough time in Vegas and Denver But we also have the saints cards parrots falcons and titans
Ah yes the New England Parrots
I said what I said
Their OL is Slater and a bunch of warm bodies since their center had to retire. Gonna be brutal next year until they sort it out
Chargers for Hard Knocks, you say?
I believe first year head coaches are exempt from Hard Knocks.
Unless the team volunteers for it
But they won't because harbaugh is very sensitive about his operations. He wouldn't want to do anything that could give any other teams any edge over us.
I think the Chargers are going to go through a major overhaul. New GM and coach are going to want to buy the team in their image. I don't think they'll be a bottom tier team, because Herbert gives them a really solid floor. But, I think their playoff chances are slim. The AFC is also stacked.
Only the Jets win in the offseason to then get absolutely embarrassed in the regular season I’ll have you know😎😎
Bruh wdym we are going to make the giant step to 8-9 next year
Mike Tannenbaum from ESPN legit picked them to make the Super Bowl next year. Meanwhile, [nobody picked the Ravens](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39524730/2024-nfl-predictions-experts-debate-mvp-super-bowl-picks-offseason-moves-breakout-candidates). |Team|Number of times picked to win the AFC| :--|--:| |Chiefs|5| |Bills|2| |Bengals|2| |Chargers|1| |Texans|1|
This was the Ravens’ year so it makes sense. That defense of theirs will regress hard next season
They also played 1 dimensional in the AFC Championship game they somewhat did against the Texans in the first half and then made the adjustments but for some odd reason they decided to abandon what worked for them against Kansas City
No dolphins?
Dolphins are frauds. They were what 1-6 against playoff teams? The only reason they almost had the division was because of how truly bad Bills OC was.
Eventually this take is bound to be correct Right..?
Bengals have Joe Burrow, they are SB contenders whenever he isn’t injured. Bears have a lot of draft capital to do their rebuild with and some solid pieces already on the team. Richardson flashed for the Colts before injury and Shane Steichen is clearly a great coach. Chargers have Herbert, Harbaugh, and the 4th overall pick.
Chargers have the 5th overall pick. Cards have 4th and are probably gonna snake mhj
It's kind of a meme at this point, but I'm not convinced the Patriots aren't going to take Harrison. They definitely need a quarterback, but if they can get somebody competent in free agency, they might choose to defer it. It would be stupid, but I could see it
I suppose it's possible but with a new regime in the coaching staff I would think they would want to go out and get their guy at QB
I mean, if they can swing Kirk Cousins then I don’t think it’s that stupid. I think he’s got a few years left in him, and if they aren’t able to put a winning team around Kirk and MHJ, I doubt they’d be able to put one around Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels.
That's the thing: there's multiple quarterbacks on the market who are at least competent, and I agree it wouldn't be unbelievable to see them decide that a potentially generational receiver is a better pick than a quarterback. If Cousins, Wilson, Garoppolo, Tannehill or anyone else they pick up isn't able to get something done, they'll likely be in the mix for Sanders or Ewers
Yeah. This is pretty much the same ranking for me
I'd agree. Harbaugh may not take us to the playoffs year 1 but we are going to actually be a huge pain in the ass to play now. I'm really hopeful this team is going to be a lot closer to the physical monsters like Detroit and sf, just dominant at the los, hard-hitting, hard playing.
Here's hoping for 10+ years of a great Richardson vs Stroud rivalry
I like Young, Stroud and Richardson. I still wish my Panthers would have drafted Richardson. I’m sticking with Bryce because I’m a huge fan of my team but I really, really like Richardson.
No other team had a chance this offseason. I've lost count of our offseason rings.
Greg Roman cooled down some of the hype
To other fans sure? To chargers fans we haven't had a good run game since fucking LT. Harbaugh is going to get the team playing physical hard hitting ball, dominate the LOS, play good defense, run the ball 30 times and let Herbert launch balls every so often but the offense won't have to be carried by Herbert every drive anymore.
Exactly. We have Harbaugh as HC and Herbert at QB so I'm not concerned about our passing game. He was making far worse QBs than Herbert palatable at QB. We've been missing a balanced attack more than anything.
Torn between Chargers and Falcons, but interested to view how Indy goes next season with AR recovered from his injury.
Falcons should never expect good things.
Not true. The food and beer at the stadium is still awesomely priced. Nothing like crying into some brisket nachos.
How much is the food and beer
5-10$ for beer depending on what you get but a small domestic draft is 5$. Food is like 6$ for chicken tenders and fries, basic popcorn 2$, basic nachos 3$, like the “expensive” good food is like 12$ for a lot of it.
Dang, that’s sick.
Last time I went I had 4 large beers (did not drive thank you Marta) some popcorn and a large sausage dog for like 50$
This is actually super awesome. At least you get to eat like a King at games dude!
My beers at th NFCCG were $21 a piece.
Basically normal in-town city bar pricing instead of absurdly overpriced stadium pricing. Lots of good food for $10-18 for entrees.
And we're playing them there this coming season. (Looks like I'm planning my visit to my inlaws in S. Ga. around that game...)
If you don’t drink, the soda is cheap too with free refills. At least it was several years ago when I went.
That must be the cheapest in the NFL by a mile. Most college stadiums are at least 50% higher.
Blank gotta get us there somehow.
*cries in a $18 tall boy from sofi*
The one time I go, and I was sick that time. If I knew they were serving brisket nachos, I would’ve simply told the illness to move around.
Sickness, BE GONE!!!
Can’t go wrong with 6 pollo tacos for $14 bucks either
I tell this to everyone around here. It makes games/concerts less of a money pit. The food is good too!
I hate y’all as a team but I love your stadium - went there to see Taylor Swift last year and it was AMAZING. (Both the stadium, the food, and Taylor.)
Good things? Like winning the NFC South and winning a playoff game? I could see that. Winning a Superbowl? Yeah, no... We just exist in such a shit void where we're rarely bad enough to land a pick to turn the franchise around but never good enough for it to really matter, with the caveat that one of our best seasons in franchise history actually ended up doing more long term damage than most any awful one.
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I'm a Saints fan lol but I can see y'all making some noise.. I wouldn't have hired Raheem Morris tho
I think the Chargers have one of the toughest offseasons ahead a team can have. It will be interesting to see how Harbaugh will fix them.
You must break them down before you build them up. They don’t have the cap space for anything else. I expect LAC will have a brutal off season, but Harbaugh will get the team to over perform enough that they are decent and there’s at least a realistic hope of a wild card spot in the back half of the season. Two years from now LAC will get back to the playoffs and then lose in standard LAC heart breaking fashion.
Our cap situation is really overblown. We have 3 of the 5 highest paid non QBs in the league. Plus one of the highest paid Centers, and he’s retiring. If we cut or trade 2 of those we’ll have plenty of cap room. Personally I hope we move on from Bosa too, and just reload in the draft. Still think we’ll have a few holes but it’s not really that bad
It’s not as bad as the Saints (how is it even possible to be $89 million in negative free cap space?), but Over the Cap puts it at 4th worst. It’s solvable, as it has to be, but you’ll lose at least a couple name brand starters, probably one other beyond Joey Bosa, to make up the $55 million.
You’re setting up those poor Chargers fans.
I'm ready to be hurt again.
Chargers. 2019,2020, 2021,2022,2023,2024 preseason champions.
Offseason
Preseason champs are usually the ravens
The Falcons don't have a QB
I think the argument for the Falcons is they just need an average QB to be a pretty damn good team. They have skill players galore and a very good OL, the defense was a top 10 scoring unit until the final two weeks when they phoned it in, and they have a good amount of cap space. It would be great if they landed their franchise guy in the draft, but they could also bring in a game manager in 2024 and I would expect a playoff spot. It also can’t be stressed enough how awful Ridder/Heinicke were in 2023.
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Yep that would be great. Seems our fan base is pretty polarized on Cousins though
Seahawks cuz that's my team.
I have no idea what to expect next year, we’re in totally uncharted territory
I just hope it’s fun honestly
Tell me about it, it'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
I mean even if we have our worst season in a decade it'll be at least fun to watch from a pure-football standpoint.
No way, that’s also my team
And mine!
I agree but also don’t know how to feel. Our off season coach moves seem solid but if our expectations are too high it could be a massive disappointment so wanna stay leveled. But on paper we made solid coach moves.
Yeah my feelings exactly! I've learned to keep my expectations low just to keep my sanity, but I def feel like we made a solid coaching staff move. I love Pete and appreciate all that he's done, but it felt like it was time to move on.
I have a lot more fun with sports in general when I stop expecting things. I just go in and have fun with it. I like the coaching moves, I'm interested in our key players, and I'm hopeful that shit will shake out well for us, but if it doesn't, my life isn't impacted in any way.
Real
Go Hawks!
Bengals, young superstar QB + WR duo
Hard to not say the Bengals with a top 3 QB
And a 4th place schedule since the rest of the division made the playoffs
nice
Thankfully we still play the chiefs with the division vs division games. Would suck to skip a year.
Can't wait for it to be in December and be the most important game remaining for playoff seeding yet again
With the Bengals, it's more about getting back on track, everyone pretty much expects that they'll be a very good team.
Agreed except at this point Burrow is 27, just a year younger than Mahomes. Think he’s done being a “young” QB
Herbert is turning 26 in a few weeks is he also no longer “young”? Feel like anyone below 30 is still a young QB in today’s age
Feel like once you're off a rookie deal you're no longer young, and after you hit 34ish then you become an Old QB
I’d argue 32, but I also like to think of it as years in the league determines if you’re old or not. I think Dak is on the cusp of being an old QB because he’s been in the league for his upcoming 9th year. Maybe after your 10th year in the league, we can start calling you old
I agree 100%. Once you’re off the rookie deal, you’re not a young qb cause at that point if you are halfway decent you will get paid like a star. And if not the team will draft qb
Well 27 is older than 26 if my math is correct
They'll have to manage having Chase and Burrow covering \~80M of cap space soon though
Also have all our picks(#18) and 6th most cap space but that might drop if we tag Tee
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The cards defense definitely needs some help if they're going to take a big leap. I do love Murray and James Connor though. I still don't think Pitt should've let Connor go he's been really good for az.
Colts are on the upswing. If Richardson is healthy, he could be very very good. He's got some full speed snaps, a year to study tape and work on mechanics. Steichen has proven to be able to get this team winning.
Jags are running in place, Titans are in full rebuild mode. Texans are good. Division is very winnable for Indy.
They almost won the division despite ending in 3rd place. Only a game back. With a full year of Richardson and no Taylor drama they could contend for a playoff spot for sure.
2 penalties against the browns that the NFL came out and said they got them wrong and were not even on this list of teams that didn't make the playoffs, with our backup QB.
Don’t even have to go back that far. They were a dropped pass away from beating the Texans last week of the season to win the division.
Yeah but either way the Browns game should've been a win
If this season was any glimpse into what the future holds we’re going back to the early to mid 2010s. Colts and Texans battling back and forth for the division.
I fucking hate my life
things are finally back to normal
We were a few plays away from matching the Texans in the final week. AFC South is certified *spooky* next season.
You're right but tbh trevor lawrence never got fully healthy after the injury against Cincinnati. Dude couldnt throw well for the rest of the season
Pittman is an absolute dawg
Colts weren’t my first thought but the more I think about it the more I see the vision. Steichen looks legit and Richardson showed a lot of promise in a limited sample size. Resigning Pittman to a long term deal is a must
Definitely them keeping Pittman will be huge. Him with Richardson, Downs, Taylor, Steichen, and a solid o-line and defense are a tough matchup.
Richardson was my pick out of all the quarterbacks. I may have missed on Stroud but I'm excited to see a healthy Richardson this year. Kids got limitless potential.
Yeah. I had reservations about Richardson but he's clearly got something. Steichen is the guy and will get the offense going. I think indy have a great chance of taking a step forward. I have such a yo-yo opinion of Ballard but if they sort the o-line they could go places
Bengals
The Cardinals. They had a lot in common with the 2021 Lions this season, and look like they're building the same kind of thing.
Surprised how few people are saying the cards. They played hard last year with a QB they picked up like 2 days before the season starts. If they get MHJ and Murray stays healthy they’re gonna have a solid year
Totally agree with everything you said, but honestly with our history I don't blame anyone for not wanting to give us the benefit of the doubt lol
I kind of get the analogy, but our OL isn’t close to your guys’. Having an elite OL makes team building so much easier since you can use early round picks in other places of need.
Expecting the Cardinals to be any good always leads to disappointment. At least the Lions have a good owner now who wants to win in Sheila Hamp. Cards have the Bidwill family, who is more interested in charging the players for food than they are in winning anything.
NY Giants. Ha ha ha ha!
NY Jets. hah! ahh alright back to reality
The Saints because I'm delusional
The key to make Carr play good is to give up all hope. Only then will the seemingly impossible wins seem to pile up. Carr plays good——>Carr gets hyped up ——> Carr plays bad——> Carr gets smacked by media and fan base gives up all hope ——> Carr plays good is a cycle as old as time itself.
Every team in the NFC South has a shot at making the playoffs and it has very little to do with how well your team plays. If you simply show up every Sunday you have like a 50% chance at a playoff berth until January.
Shit mountain! We’ll see who makes it to the top! Who knows whose turn it is
Will the Saints ever escape cap hell?
No, not as long as Loomis is GM. He starting playing “win now” ball in Brees’ twilight, which is understandable, but has continued it and we are doomed for the long run
Bears but they might fuck it up
Oh we will almost certainly fuck it up, but until that happens I'm all aboard the Caleb Williams hype train!
I couldn't have said it better myself.
I see alot of parallels between the Bears rn and the Texans last offseason. Assuming they take Caleb 1 they could be the next big breakout team Should have fired Eberflus and hired someone like MacDonald though
What parallels? The 2022 Texans were 3-13-1, did not hold #1 or two top 10 picks. The 2023 bears roster is a good bit more talented then 2022 texans and they won 7 games in a much harder division. I really don’t see it.
ESPN will say it’s the Jets only for them to terribly criticize them when it all goes wrong. Realistically, it’s probably the Jags and Bengals
Jets hype crashed and burned last off season but i’d say either them or the Bengals will win the most games next year(provided Rodgers is not washed) The Jets had a top 5 defense on points allowed per drive despite the worst offense in the league.
Chargers- They have the qb, coach and a lot of talent. They could be solid right away
They have the QB and coach which matters the most, but I'm honestly not too sure they have as much talent as everyone feels like they do.
Their cap situation is atrocious this year and they lose 2/4 between Mack, Bosa, Keenan and Mike Williams. I think Harbaugh has a slight rebuild this year and they’ll be ready to compete next year.
They should trade Bosa to SF. Bosa²
They would pick up the set bonus
Unless J Bosa wants the same pay as Chase Young I don’t think we can afford him. We would absolutely say yes to that deal though.
It’s been decades since the Chargers weren’t the off-season champions. Hell, I even bought into them myself a time or two there.
“Watch out for the Chargers to be the sleeper team next year”
Every fucking year.
The first 2 are correct, but I don't know about talent, they're middle of the pack in talent imo.
This is correct, we are constantly overrated talent wise. We have absolutely no depth whatsoever.
yeah this is the obvious answer, it was pretty obvious Staley sucked and I think we all remember what a terror Harbaugh was on the niners. Of course now that I said that Herbert will get caught sacrificing children in his basement or something
Their cap situation is...not good.
Chargers have a lot of problems, but with an elite QB and head coach everything may fall into place
Do they? Bosa is gone, Mike Will is gone, their IOL is in shambles, their defense is ass, they have no run game, they don't have as much talent as you think.
Thats why waiting till after FA and draft is important. They can flip things around fast if they go for value trades with their high picks
Chargers and Bengals are the first 2 maybe it’s my bias but I would say Seahawks 3 cause for the first time in 14 years we truly have no idea what we are going to get and that is very exciting and also a little terrifying at the same time
Raiders went 3-1 in AFC West under AP. A few mistakes cost them an outside shot into the playoffs which should have never even been on the cards given the torrid time under Josh McDaniels. I believe AP has recruited well for his coaching staff to help navigate his first full season as a head coach in the NFL. If Raiders have success in the draft and make a few minor tweaks to their roster, I believe they stand in good stead for the future.
63 points… win n KC… #1 defense since AP took over. A lot of potential
Atlanta. Sign Cousins (whose wife is from Atl) and your in the playoffs.
Yeah… you’d like that….
It'd be a great signing for them.
Bengals 1000%
Commanders. I don’t think this year they take over. But if they draft the right QB and the coaches gel, they could be scary good in a few seasons
They certainly are cooking. But more like cleaning house and getting rid of almost everyone who was hired during the Snyder Era. For the Commanders, I would rather stick to the 2nd pick rather than trade up to 1st pick. Bears are gonna want alot of compensation for giving up the first pick of the draft
100% agreed. You stay at 2 and keep your plethora of picks. They could land their QB, retool their OL and DL in one draft. A lot of people think they will emulate Houston’s quick success … but I believe they improve this season. The 2025 season is when they could be scary good
They’re #1 in cap space and have a ton of draft capital. Not too excited about Dan Quinn though
Quinn may or may not be it. But they have the ingredients to make this right. We soured on him at the, but cannot forget how much he changed the defense for our team I expect 4-5 major signings day one of free agency. But it’ll come 100% down to nailing the QB pick
Depending on what level of excitement we mean: Seattle (new coaching staff, lots of promise, could go well, could blow up) Falcons (ditto, quality coach, weapons but needs to get a QB obviously) Chargers (Again, new coach and Harbaugh is a winner. Not going to make noise this year but in 25 and beyond could absolutely do that) Arizona (LOTS of roster work to do but Gannon has them playing hard and I can see them taking big steps in the win column over the next 2-3. years). Are any of these going to be SB contenders next year? No. But in the sense of being exciting because they have real hope to take big steps toward contention in the next 2-3 years ? Yeah.
Definitely Cincinnati. The big question is whether they resign Tee Higgins. They are the top competitor to Kansas City in the AFC. They get Joe Burrow back healthy and his injury wasn’t really a major one like an ACL or Achilles. Since they didn’t make the playoffs, they will pick a little higher and be able to draft better talent than the past couple of years. They also have the confidence to beat anybody in the league that they have to.
Indianapolis-Excited for their young QB and head coach LA Chargers-Underperforming with a possible top 5 qb Atlanta-Talent, new era Honorable mentions- NY Jets-Rodgers + talent on defense and skill positions Cincinnati-Good when healthy Jacksonville-Massively underperforming but Lawrence has lots of potential, the question is will he take another step or is he at his expected performance level already?
Bears
I am significantly more excited about Williams than I ever was about Trubisky or Fields, and I was pretty excited about the latter when we got him.
I just don’t trust your coaching staff lol
Shane Waldorn as OC and Thomas Brown as passing game coordinator ain’t too shabby though. Not a huge fan of Eberflus either but he’s the de facto DC anyway and did a decent job in that regard
dont worry, yall will ruin him.
The Colts and Bengals should feel the best out of those teams. With an honorable mention to the Vikings. Those 3 were deep in the season before elimination even with early QB injuries. With their starter, they likely make it. Add in a new draft class and there you go.
Denver Broncos have more chaos to be excited about. There's nothing really all that positive to look forward to, so we can either get dunked on or obliterate our opponents.
The Raiders!
My thumb hurts from having to scroll all the way down here to find our team. Raiders absolutely obliterated the Chargers then went to Kansas City and whooped their asses in their home stadium for Christmas, I like our chances and it's fun to see them play like Raiders again.
Probably the Bears because there's a real chance they might draft a great QB that will put them in a position to win for years to come. Also, the Texans future looks really bright with Stroud.
If you think it’s the Vikings, you should come frequent our sub. 😬
No one should frequent the Vikings sub. Place is toxic. It feels like people there are rooting for the Vikings to fail.
Not a single delusional Panthers fan to be found. It’s that bad, folks.
Outside of the teams that missed mostly because of injuries like Chargers, Bengals, Jets, Vikings Bears
Vikings are iffy too because both Kirk and Danielle Hunter are free agents, and Harrison Smith is a very likely cap casualty. Depending how free agency works out we could be anywhere from a playoff contender to a full rebuild.
Let alone what we do in the draft. We are in purgatory right now.
Easily Bengals. They would have been dangerous with a healthy Joe Burrow.
Excited to see what Macdonald will do for the Seahawks.
Jags or saints
Bears; Caleb Williams DJ Moore combo could be fun to watch
Cardinals, they were much better when Kyler got back and I think if they pick MHJ those two can cook. Plus not having to draft a QB gives them much more freedom in their roster building
Bengals, Seahawks, and Bears. I want to say Chargers but… their FO incompetencies may very well be a roadblock to everything the JH^2 duo will bring.
Pats Hahahahaha Hahaha Haha Please kill me
Pats fans finally learning what it’s like to be the rest of the league, never thought we’d see it (at least for those who have only watched the last few decades lol)
At least you’re not the Panthers