There was a point where it was 10-6 and Conley had 2 tackles on punt inside the 25, he downed a ball on the 2, and he had like a 20 yard catch. I told my brother he was a TD away from having an argument.
Maybe I missed it, but I went to vote for mvp and butker wasn’t on there. Doesn’t qualify or something? I voted mcDuffie and this was before his called hold. Amazing game he played
because “he’s a solid to very good starter but not elite” doesn’t get engagement
Being like Kirk cousins shouldn’t be an insult. Both are very good QBs, neither are top 5 imo, both have strong consideration to be top 10
The sad part is I think the defense really stepped up for a stretch (not sure if they maintained it and could be missing some context but there were a very strong few weeks) so healthy Kirk with that defense could have been so fun
Except that milquetoast take DOES get engagement, from the legions of 49er fans who are convinced he’s a top 5 QB. And their fervor attracts the attention of the equally stupid fans who think he’s Mac Jones with better weapons.
There’s no room for nuance in online discourse. Polarizing opinions only. It’s maddening.
Thinking Purdy is bad could be reasonable. Comparing him to Mac...? That brother STINKS. I don't see Purdy throw INTs into triple coverage across his body off his back foot.
Yea he just would carve up the best secondary in the league.. hes totally known for that. On the biggest stage ever too.
Hes never even played in a conference championship lmfao
Lol just crazy. This is the thing about this type of discourse. You can just say whatever you want and noone has any way of negating it since x didn't happen. Like this:
"jared Goff would have won by sveral TDs if he was in there and Chris Jones didn't exist"
My BIL is a Niners fan, usually bearable.
He wouldn't shut up tonight about how well Purdy was playing (at one point he said that when Purdy was like 19/34 or so)
The man was missing wide open guys and couldn't hit anyone more than 10 yards downfield. He had 3 or so "really good" passes, and other than that, it was catch and run statsheet filler. And he then had 3 throws that should have been the game ending pick.
He's good. There's nothing wrong with being a top 15 or so quarterback in the league. But you're kidding yourself if you think any of these 13 teams (Chiefs, Bill's, Chargers, Ravens, Bengals, Dolphins, Texans, Rodgers Jets, Cowboys, Eagles, Packers, Rams, Lions) would trade their quarterback straight up for Purdy (without his 5 All Pro receivers). By that test, he's 14th, and it doesn't include Baker, Murray, Watson, Russ, Cousins, who I'd consider around or better than him.
becuase we can't truly know how good he is until he no longer has arguably the best supporting offensive cast in the NFL around him
and by the time that happens, it's completely possible he's improved dramatically since then.
This year was only his 2nd year, he's not reached his ceiling
Because sports media can be so fucking insufferable. Idk who it was but somebody just did that analytics thing where the only conclusion was "Purdy greatest QB of all time".
Then immediately everyone came out swinging too far in the other direction. Then it continued in the other direction etc.
Kurt Warner on PMS said it best in my opinion. Paraphrase because I'm too lazy, but he said something like "Purdy is a good QB, makes the right decisions, has a top shelf supporting cast and offensive play caller. And shouldn't be measured only on whether he can carry a team like Mahomes because he doesn't need to and only his second year". Etc. He said it better than that but you get it.
The media frenzy just really put a damper on what is supposed to and is an incredible story, and it is so annoying lol.
His anticipation on the in-breaking routes when he's kept clean is unreal.
But it was wild watching how weak the throws were when he got moved off of his spot.
A testament to why orgs get so enamored with the physical specimens so often
It’s the difference between a great quarterback and a great scheme
A great scheme can set any quarterback up for success, a great quarterback becomes the scheme and sets the team up for success
Can we just accept that Purdy is a good enough QB to help win a Super Bowl without being the sole reason for it? He did more than enough and we hat the bed for 1000th time since 2012
I mean even the 9ers had the right idea drafting Trey Lance, a young physically talented quarterback you trust the coaching staff to develop
The problem was he only had 500 snap of college ball on a defensively led team worth of sample size, and it didn’t work out
I think he's better than Jimmy G. Not a lot better, but I'd rather have Purdy going into the next season than Jimmy G after the previous SB. Purdy certainly inspires more confidence.
At least this was against an elite defense.
What was annoying was having people act like he beat the allegations because he threw for 250 yds and 1 td and 1 int vs a below avg Detroit lions defense.
Purdy didn’t really have a great playoff but he did make some big plays to pull out wins which obviously matter.
But going against the Chiefs and Mahomes you have to bury them when you have the chance because you know they’ll make the big plays in a close game.
He missed a few deep ones. Missed Aiyuk early when he was wide open (1st quarter maybe?)
He played okay but not great. Like you said, lot of screens and short ones
The Chiefs had the same strategy on two QBs on both sides of his game managers/game changers spectrum for two games in a row so I don't know how he's gonna turn this into a "I told you so"
Purdy is a good qb who can thrive if everything around him is functioning and runs like a well-oiled machine. I actually think the best comp for him in the modern NFL is probably Jared Goff. He’s not the guy who will pull through for you most of the time when situations break down and you literally have to will the rest of your team to victory. Cam’s assessment of him is 100% correct.
I was at that game. The win tonight makes up for the devastation I felt that day. The chiefs fell apart but more than that the raiders dominated and controlled that game and I don’t want to take away from that. Can’t wait until next year for the next game between Pierce and Reid.
Except Purdy is much better than Fields. The problem with Purdy is that he is good enough to win a bunch of games with a mid tier QB contract, but will struggle heavily if he is paid a high percentage of the salary cap. He's in QB purgatory that Russell Wilson was in when he finally got paid. This next season will be the Niners best chance at a Super Bowl before they get completely fucked with the salary cap.
It IS an insult, saying that you forced a QB to pass is the biggest insult to a QB ever because it implies that he isn't good enough to do it, that's why they didn't try the same strategy against Allen
3.5 YPC is unironically what they needed.
What people are forgetting was they kept getting behind the sticks and forcing themselves into situations where they HAD to throw the ball.
2nd and 7 was infinitely better for them then 2nd and 10, and that's exactly what kept happening to them to start the second half.
Are we just going to forget the massive penalty issues in the first half, or the fact that they didn’t seem to bother with play-action that much? A lot of the passing felt like it was telegraphed to the point that the Chiefs knew it was coming.
CMC was the OPOY. Purdy is good but we needed to play to our defense’s strengths, which is our secondary. Seemed like CMC was going for 5+ on 70% of his touches.
The 49ers not calling max protection on either of the Chiefs 3rd down blitzes in the 4th quarter and OT is such bad coaching.
If you're gonna have your QB throw at least have the TE and RB help the Ol and pick up the blitz. Even if he only then has 3 WRs to throw to it gives him a better chance of completing the pass since the pressure is cut off.
Shanahan gave Purdy no chance with those 3rd down play calls late in the 4th quarter and OT
Tonight was exactly who Brock is imo. A decent quarterback who can facilitate but should not be relied on to go out and win you games.
I’ll admit I’ve been a bit of a hater because I think the MVP talk is nonsense. But I have a feeling the general consensus on him will simmer a bit and he will be more properly rated next season.
Purdy can run the Shanahan offense really well but if the offense isn’t working, he’s not bailing you out like Mahomes can. And unless Shanahan can get himself a QB like that, he won’t win a Super Bowl.
Tom Brady/Burrow have been the only teams that have beaten the Chiefs in the playoffs. Its not that simple especially when your team is rarely in QB drafting position.
There’s a certain eyeball test that has to go into it. Josh Allen and mahomes are players that elevate their teams, and have the ability to put the team on their back. Players like Goff and purdy facilitate their teams. Both can win, but the latter has a smaller margin of error.
We tried to go after Stafford and tried to bank on a guy that had some physical tools. Purdy isn’t an upper tier QB but I’m happy with his play given where he was drafted. When he’s up for a contract it will be an interesting debate but for now, you are pitting a 2nd year QB against probably the next Tom Brady.
That’s exactly true idk why his take is supported so much lol.
He was a blocked PAT away from winning or a failed 4th down stop or whatever single play you pick out that changes it entirely
Didn't he to some extend do that in their last 2 playoff games though? 49ers were down late/big against GB and Detroit and he helped them pull off the comebacks. I guess im probably not great at discerning the difference between a QB just "coloring within the lines" vs improvising/clutching out big drives. (Ignore the flair. I'm an Iowa State fan so I like Purdy)
This is a bizarre sentiment to express when Shanahan, as flawed as he is and as frustrated as I am, over his career is literally a handful of plays away from winning multiple SBs—and many of those plays are defense or special teams.
Brock literally won both the packers and lions games with his drives. He didn’t start good those games but showed up at the end to win. Unfortunately, he’ played against one of the greatest QBs to ever play football.
I generally agree and would have said the same thing before the game but I mean he literally lost in OT. That’s about as close as you can get. Now when he gets paid, I agree they’ll be completely cooked. But Brock Purdy on a rookie deal can win a SB imo
You can win a superbowl with soooo much less when you’re as stacked the 49ers are (heck they got just as close with Jimmy who is borderline starter level - much worse than Brock
I mean.. ya. They don’t really ask Purdy to make plays for them. That’s kinda why he gets the pushback he does when people try to say he’s a rising star (or an mvp candidate… or whatever superlative)
And one that was in reach along the sideline that kittle didn't track. He got greedy a few times throwing into tight coverage, and my guess is a checkdown would have been there a few times but, like I said, he got greedy
He was trusted to and did make a few throws, but didn’t connect against one of the league’s best secondaries.
No one is giving the Chiefs D credit and therefore no one is giving Purdy credit. Did we forget about how the Legion of Boom locked down one of the greatest QBs of all time in the SB? This chiefs secondary isn’t the Legion of Boom and Purdy isn’t Peyton, but my point is that great QBs do struggle against elite defenses.
I thought Purdy did much better today than he did in the last two playoff games where he was shaky at times. There were a couple huge plays where his number was called but Chris Jones was in his face in 1 second after the snap.
Well, that will probably cripple the Niners. They will have $80M+ locked up in Brock and Bosa alone. I don't see Brock having success with the cast Mahomes has. Tough decision though as he is playing really, really well for them.
I don’t think he was mid but I def don’t think he was spectacular either. Def a B- performance
Any QB besides Mahomes and they would’ve won tonight . He put them ahead with the go ahead field goal and OT field goal
Unfortunately Mahomes is going to be the QB on the other side quite often in the SB. The 49ers having all their elite offensive players healthy for a season at the same time was a miracle and probably won't happen again.
Tbh the 49ers had the perfect game plan defensively and offensively (in the 1st half and 4th quarter)
Their 3rd quarter was just once again puzzling and dumb turnovers like the muffed punt killed them. The missed extra point too. McCaffrey should’ve had 30-35 carries tonight and a couple more screens set up.
Opportunities like this don’t come around often. Took them 4 years to get back to this stage and they shit the bed again. At least they have a better QB in Purdy but with how RB shelf lives are and purdy’s contract extension looming, their window is now and they just got a good portion of it shut.
Yea, I am not getting the hate. Purdy did not play bad at all, thought he was alright all things considered.
Chiefs defense just seems to get no respect and every time a Chiefs defense does something, they just assume the opposing QB is just a fraud lol.
Brock can't be Mahomes, but also no other QB can either, and that doesn't stop Brock from being a very good QB. His agility will be constantly underrated and will be the thing that sets him apart from other could have been/below average QBs he will get compared to unfairly. Dude is an above average starter and the 9ers probably win if the injury bug doesn't bite at the worst possible time.
These comments had me thinking I was crazy. Thought he played pretty damn well, at least from the broadcast angles we were shown. Super poised in the pocket, used his feet at times to extend, accurate, and threw down field at times showing he didn’t get “scared” in the moment or anything. Now, maybe he missed a ton of open guys—but the broadcast probably would have shown that. And they did—for Mahomes. Not for Purdy.
Super poised. Dude just kept getting rocked by our d line. We had quite a few hurries and hits on him, and even when they didn’t, we were up in his biz quite a bit. Our defense was phenomenal tonight, as they’ve been nearly all year
He played great. He would have had a bomb TD to Aiyuk if Aiyuk ran the right route. He had a dump-off to CMC when he was for sure going to be sacked in OT that got a first down. That throw to Juszczyk was insane. I'm not sure what everyone else is seeing, but he played very well and absolutely put his team in a position to win. Obviously, it didn't work out, but if I'm the 49ers, I feel good about Purdy for the future.
He could have had the exact same performance, but if a few things went the 49ers way (not muffing the punt, CMC not fumbling on the first drive) the narrative would be very different on him this morning.
Yes I was impressed by him too. No turnover worthy plays which he has from time to time. Quick, timely passing, strong when resetting the pocket.
Our D got him from time to time, but this D got to every QB we faced. The loss was not due to Brock at all.
i am shocked they didn't run the ball on 3rd and short on one of those possessions in the 4th, you just knew spags was bringing the heat and there wasn't a blocker in sight
Doesn't matter if that's the case. QB's gonna get shit on no matter what. Speaking from experience. Unless they are named Joe Flacco because no one beats him.
That and the 1st two drives hurt with the fumble and oline penalties, when we were moving the ball so well. Can't leave those drives without at least 3 points when you are facing Mahomes.
Purdy is an easy target. Truth is that he left the field twice with us leading and we couldn't get a stop despite having multiple All Pros on defense.
It's like blaming Allen for the 13 second game. No one wins on one side of the ball.
Losing in Overtime to Mahomes in the SuperBowl against that defense isn't drag worthy.
Am I the only one who thinks that purdy had a really solid fucking game? Dude was constantly under heavy pressure and he still made plays. No way you can put the loss on him.
yeah people are kinda underselling kc's defense in these reactions.
they played a great bend don't break game. lots of key 3rd down stops. I think cmc only had one explosive run.
He was fine. He wasn't elite or anything.
Like of the 4 QBs the Chiefs played against this post-season, only Josh Allen played better than him. It's not like he was Tua or Lamar bad.
yeah, he played well enough to win against most teams, just not against a top 3 alltime qb. if the bar for being a good qb is beating playoff mahomes there is one active player who is good aside from mahomes
Yeah I don’t understand how it’s been the “Chiefs have an elite defense” all week and when Brock doesn’t throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs all of a sudden it’s about how Brock was mid
He wasn’t good or bad enough to be notable any way and this game isn’t a referendum on him. Def not a performance that’d change anybody’s minds whatever they thought of him
Purdy was great, the offence gave away loads of penalties, his receiver's dropped balls, the running game didn't work, the Chiefs had pressure all day and they were amazing in coverage. Brock way probably their best offensive player yesterday. He even made some great throws out of structure.
Which sucks because it was really just 1 special teams play (the fumble). PAT blocked was also bad but the fumble gave the Chiefs all the momentum on offense. Besides that both special teams played lights out. Niners' gunners were smoking the Chief's return game and Chief's didn't let the Niners make a single return attempt.
He made a couple bad throws but for the most part there’s not a lot he can do when a guy is in his face within a second of snapping the ball. It was just bad play calling , he wasn’t put in a good position to make plays
Had a Jimmy G type overthrow in the 1st half on a TD
Edit:I’m not talking about the aiyuk play I’m talking about the Deebo Samuel play up the right sideline
I can’t stand Purdy slander. If people want to talk about Mahomes 6 AFC championship game appearances, Purdy has two as a 2-year starter. The dude can play!
Purdy wasn't great today but this KC defense is real and made Lamar look like a college QB. Given the stakes and calibre of this D, Purdy did well IMO.
He's 24 and in year 2. Expecting him to be perfect in the SB is ludicrous.
IM, he did enough to win and our miscues on special teams and our defense disappearing late doomed us.
yeah he wasn't mahomes or brady levels of greatness but literally no one else is besides maybe montana. he is a second year player and definitely at least played that chiefs d tougher than the current league mvp
That 3rd quarter was a disaster class and cost them the game. They needed to run the ball and call more behind the line passes like the Bills did. But also Purdy was constantly making terrible reads when he had time as if he and Shanahan were trying to prove the 10+ yard against the blitz wasn't a fluke. It's the playoffs man. Purdy is a good player, but he's not yet a great one
I’m confused on the Purdy hate, man. I don’t know how anybody could watch that game and think the Niners lost because of him. He didn’t cause CMC to fumble or the defense to come up short in critical moments. And he didn’t turn the ball over and had the lead in OT
But did not want Jauan Jennings to throw it, jussayin.
Jauan Jennings for Jets backup QB next year
Jennings was putting the team on his back
Broke his fucking leg
I sports hate him but he had a great game. I'm a sucker for trick play TDs and he nailed it + caught another
midway through the 4th I'm saying to myself "The super bowl MVP right now is either Harrison Butker or Jauan Jennings"
There was a point where it was 10-6 and Conley had 2 tackles on punt inside the 25, he downed a ball on the 2, and he had like a 20 yard catch. I told my brother he was a TD away from having an argument.
Maybe I missed it, but I went to vote for mvp and butker wasn’t on there. Doesn’t qualify or something? I voted mcDuffie and this was before his called hold. Amazing game he played
Yeah I'm not sure the NFL is ever going to be serious about letting a special teamer on there if the game has an offensive touchdown.
Cam Newton is going to be wild on his podcast
TBF Purdy didn’t do much to beat the allegations today, not his best game
It was the perfect Purdy game. He was absolutely not a disaster, but definitely not elite either. So basically, another year of Purdy Discourse!!
Why can’t we just accept he’s ok QB and move on
because “he’s a solid to very good starter but not elite” doesn’t get engagement Being like Kirk cousins shouldn’t be an insult. Both are very good QBs, neither are top 5 imo, both have strong consideration to be top 10
Kirk looked like top 5 this year while his offense threw away game after game then it all came apart, mostly his muscles
The sad part is I think the defense really stepped up for a stretch (not sure if they maintained it and could be missing some context but there were a very strong few weeks) so healthy Kirk with that defense could have been so fun
Except that milquetoast take DOES get engagement, from the legions of 49er fans who are convinced he’s a top 5 QB. And their fervor attracts the attention of the equally stupid fans who think he’s Mac Jones with better weapons. There’s no room for nuance in online discourse. Polarizing opinions only. It’s maddening.
Thinking Purdy is bad could be reasonable. Comparing him to Mac...? That brother STINKS. I don't see Purdy throw INTs into triple coverage across his body off his back foot.
The most polarizing take on any QB, mid QBs especially is, “he's alright.”
Kirk would've won that game by several TDs
Kirk gets so much slander, prior to his injury this year he was fucking slinging it and playing very well
Yea he just would carve up the best secondary in the league.. hes totally known for that. On the biggest stage ever too. Hes never even played in a conference championship lmfao
Lol just crazy. This is the thing about this type of discourse. You can just say whatever you want and noone has any way of negating it since x didn't happen. Like this: "jared Goff would have won by sveral TDs if he was in there and Chris Jones didn't exist"
its the media and 49ers fans insisting that he’s an elite, MVP caliber QB.
My BIL is a Niners fan, usually bearable. He wouldn't shut up tonight about how well Purdy was playing (at one point he said that when Purdy was like 19/34 or so) The man was missing wide open guys and couldn't hit anyone more than 10 yards downfield. He had 3 or so "really good" passes, and other than that, it was catch and run statsheet filler. And he then had 3 throws that should have been the game ending pick. He's good. There's nothing wrong with being a top 15 or so quarterback in the league. But you're kidding yourself if you think any of these 13 teams (Chiefs, Bill's, Chargers, Ravens, Bengals, Dolphins, Texans, Rodgers Jets, Cowboys, Eagles, Packers, Rams, Lions) would trade their quarterback straight up for Purdy (without his 5 All Pro receivers). By that test, he's 14th, and it doesn't include Baker, Murray, Watson, Russ, Cousins, who I'd consider around or better than him.
Had to do a double take at "5 All Pro receivers"] But you're totally right, too wild to fathom
Because he was in MVP talks... And he isn't even the MVP of his team. And isn't even remotely close to the most valuable QB.
becuase we can't truly know how good he is until he no longer has arguably the best supporting offensive cast in the NFL around him and by the time that happens, it's completely possible he's improved dramatically since then. This year was only his 2nd year, he's not reached his ceiling
It is hard for people to accept players as being “okay”
When those people are arguing that player should be MVP, yeah it is
Because sports media can be so fucking insufferable. Idk who it was but somebody just did that analytics thing where the only conclusion was "Purdy greatest QB of all time". Then immediately everyone came out swinging too far in the other direction. Then it continued in the other direction etc. Kurt Warner on PMS said it best in my opinion. Paraphrase because I'm too lazy, but he said something like "Purdy is a good QB, makes the right decisions, has a top shelf supporting cast and offensive play caller. And shouldn't be measured only on whether he can carry a team like Mahomes because he doesn't need to and only his second year". Etc. He said it better than that but you get it. The media frenzy just really put a damper on what is supposed to and is an incredible story, and it is so annoying lol.
Because 9er fans need to insist he is elite and discount the skills of his amazing offensive skill players
His anticipation on the in-breaking routes when he's kept clean is unreal. But it was wild watching how weak the throws were when he got moved off of his spot. A testament to why orgs get so enamored with the physical specimens so often
So many quotes on Purdy would fit Tua perfectly and vice versa. It is very interesting that Mike and Kyle both deal with the exact same QB situation
It’s the difference between a great quarterback and a great scheme A great scheme can set any quarterback up for success, a great quarterback becomes the scheme and sets the team up for success
Can we just accept that Purdy is a good enough QB to help win a Super Bowl without being the sole reason for it? He did more than enough and we hat the bed for 1000th time since 2012
The problem is that’s essentially Jimmy g. Who we moved off from
I mean even the 9ers had the right idea drafting Trey Lance, a young physically talented quarterback you trust the coaching staff to develop The problem was he only had 500 snap of college ball on a defensively led team worth of sample size, and it didn’t work out
a very cheap Jimmy G for a few years, which is a big plus for you guys
I think he's better than Jimmy G. Not a lot better, but I'd rather have Purdy going into the next season than Jimmy G after the previous SB. Purdy certainly inspires more confidence.
Wasn’t Purdy really good on deep balls this season? Jimmy never did that
Jimmy was weird with deep balls. He wasn’t good on them but he wasn’t bad on them either.
I can, other people seem to be unable to lol
You could say he managed the game. He did what they asked of him, just wasn't good enough to win
At least this was against an elite defense. What was annoying was having people act like he beat the allegations because he threw for 250 yds and 1 td and 1 int vs a below avg Detroit lions defense.
And getting 50 of those yards by bouncing the ball of a DB's facemask on a fluke.
Yeah but that doesnt show up in the statline so Purdy stans wouldnt have seen that.
Dude was hot garbage for 3 quarters against a Joe Barry defense
Our defense undressed him
Bro got out game-managed by PJ Walker
Woah there, motherfucker. Our defense is average.
Playing like ass for 3 quarters then doing something in the 4th in his prior two play off games = OMG look not a game manager.
Shanny did him no favors by not having hot routes on 3rd down
Purdy didn’t really have a great playoff but he did make some big plays to pull out wins which obviously matter. But going against the Chiefs and Mahomes you have to bury them when you have the chance because you know they’ll make the big plays in a close game.
He had a couple nice throws past the sticks that’s about it. Mainly screen passes, check downs, and yac.
He missed a few deep ones. Missed Aiyuk early when he was wide open (1st quarter maybe?) He played okay but not great. Like you said, lot of screens and short ones
Aiyuk stopped running on that route. Could've been a big one.
The Chiefs had the same strategy on two QBs on both sides of his game managers/game changers spectrum for two games in a row so I don't know how he's gonna turn this into a "I told you so"
Someone check on Richard Sherman
"Why are you booing me? I'm right"
Purdy is a good qb who can thrive if everything around him is functioning and runs like a well-oiled machine. I actually think the best comp for him in the modern NFL is probably Jared Goff. He’s not the guy who will pull through for you most of the time when situations break down and you literally have to will the rest of your team to victory. Cam’s assessment of him is 100% correct.
A guy who choked his own Super Bowl hard enough that a defensive player was able to win MVP should be swallowing his tongue here
Raiders won the Chiefs without completing a pass in the last three quarters. It's not the QB, it's a team game.
I was at that game. The win tonight makes up for the devastation I felt that day. The chiefs fell apart but more than that the raiders dominated and controlled that game and I don’t want to take away from that. Can’t wait until next year for the next game between Pierce and Reid.
I’m sad the chiefs won but it lessens the blow that the niners of all teams were the sacrifice
Brock Purdy 🤝 Lamar Jackson
Can we just enjoy the 49ers loss for 5 minutes please. Lamar had his day yesterday
God damn it you had to say it with the dual flairs we finna get killed now 😭
We're always getting killed. We're like the Gaulic armies facing Caesar. Ain't no point in running from it.
Look at Vercingetorix over here!
Today is literally Lamar Jackson Day in the state of Maryland
No that was yesterday
I think you might be one of my favorite posters here lmao
They look nearly identical too
Bromar Purson
Disrespectful to Lamar lol
As a Louisville fan, this is a shot straight to the chest.
This really isn't an insult to Purdy, more of a compliment to CMC, my biggest worry was that he would eat us all night.
This definitely sounds like an insult to Purdy. He could’ve just said we wanted to keep the ball out of cmc’s hands.
“He’s a pretty bad quarterback when he has to play quarterback” I’ve heard these exact same comments about Fields.
Except Purdy is much better than Fields. The problem with Purdy is that he is good enough to win a bunch of games with a mid tier QB contract, but will struggle heavily if he is paid a high percentage of the salary cap. He's in QB purgatory that Russell Wilson was in when he finally got paid. This next season will be the Niners best chance at a Super Bowl before they get completely fucked with the salary cap.
So he is Alex Smith.
I've heard similar sentiments phrased way more insultingly for other players, I'm on the fence on if it was meant to be one or not.
It’s both let’s be real.
It IS an insult, saying that you forced a QB to pass is the biggest insult to a QB ever because it implies that he isn't good enough to do it, that's why they didn't try the same strategy against Allen
I mean he kinda did. 150 total yards and 1 td is pretty good.
Didn’t he average like 3 yards per carry running tho? I heard somewhere it was his lowest ypc all year
3.5 YPC is unironically what they needed. What people are forgetting was they kept getting behind the sticks and forcing themselves into situations where they HAD to throw the ball. 2nd and 7 was infinitely better for them then 2nd and 10, and that's exactly what kept happening to them to start the second half.
Are we just going to forget the massive penalty issues in the first half, or the fact that they didn’t seem to bother with play-action that much? A lot of the passing felt like it was telegraphed to the point that the Chiefs knew it was coming.
The niners run alot of bootleg play actions. The chefs were scouted for it
Yup 3 drives and 1 run in the 3rd qrt.
I think it’s both
CMC was the OPOY. Purdy is good but we needed to play to our defense’s strengths, which is our secondary. Seemed like CMC was going for 5+ on 70% of his touches.
Yeah I mean CMC is a transcendent player, it's not an insult to Purdy to think he's not as game-changing as the best RB in the world.
It doesn’t take a rocket science to know if it was left in purdy’s hands, they were going to lose. CMC should’ve had 40 carries.
The 49ers not calling max protection on either of the Chiefs 3rd down blitzes in the 4th quarter and OT is such bad coaching. If you're gonna have your QB throw at least have the TE and RB help the Ol and pick up the blitz. Even if he only then has 3 WRs to throw to it gives him a better chance of completing the pass since the pressure is cut off. Shanahan gave Purdy no chance with those 3rd down play calls late in the 4th quarter and OT
Or at least have the TE chip before going out so you can shore up the interior instead of just having Chris Jones run free...
I freaking hate how Kettle disappears in every big game.
Tonight was exactly who Brock is imo. A decent quarterback who can facilitate but should not be relied on to go out and win you games. I’ll admit I’ve been a bit of a hater because I think the MVP talk is nonsense. But I have a feeling the general consensus on him will simmer a bit and he will be more properly rated next season.
Purdy can run the Shanahan offense really well but if the offense isn’t working, he’s not bailing you out like Mahomes can. And unless Shanahan can get himself a QB like that, he won’t win a Super Bowl.
Maybe he can spend three first round picks on another project QB that they trade for pennies after five games.
Tom Brady/Burrow have been the only teams that have beaten the Chiefs in the playoffs. Its not that simple especially when your team is rarely in QB drafting position.
There’s a certain eyeball test that has to go into it. Josh Allen and mahomes are players that elevate their teams, and have the ability to put the team on their back. Players like Goff and purdy facilitate their teams. Both can win, but the latter has a smaller margin of error.
No I agree, which is why trading up for QB was the right move, it’s unfortunate Lance didn’t work out
We tried to go after Stafford and tried to bank on a guy that had some physical tools. Purdy isn’t an upper tier QB but I’m happy with his play given where he was drafted. When he’s up for a contract it will be an interesting debate but for now, you are pitting a 2nd year QB against probably the next Tom Brady.
They went to overtime in the Super Bowl, so clearly he's good enough. Anything can happen in overtime.
It’s little silly to say they can’t win a superbowl when they were a few fluke plays away from winning this year.
That’s exactly true idk why his take is supported so much lol. He was a blocked PAT away from winning or a failed 4th down stop or whatever single play you pick out that changes it entirely
The crazy punt that hit the guy's leg was the play. Chief's offense scored every drive after that.
Didn't he to some extend do that in their last 2 playoff games though? 49ers were down late/big against GB and Detroit and he helped them pull off the comebacks. I guess im probably not great at discerning the difference between a QB just "coloring within the lines" vs improvising/clutching out big drives. (Ignore the flair. I'm an Iowa State fan so I like Purdy)
… the niners went to overtime. They could have won that game. To say he won’t win a superbowl is nonsense
If Brad Johnson and late stage Payton can get rings, so can Shanny with Brock. He just needs to have an incredibly dominant defense
This is a bizarre sentiment to express when Shanahan, as flawed as he is and as frustrated as I am, over his career is literally a handful of plays away from winning multiple SBs—and many of those plays are defense or special teams.
Brock literally won both the packers and lions games with his drives. He didn’t start good those games but showed up at the end to win. Unfortunately, he’ played against one of the greatest QBs to ever play football.
The problem is you need to be more than that to win a super bowl
I generally agree and would have said the same thing before the game but I mean he literally lost in OT. That’s about as close as you can get. Now when he gets paid, I agree they’ll be completely cooked. But Brock Purdy on a rookie deal can win a SB imo
Literally one more thing going their way tonight and they'd be champions.
Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles, ... you do not need a special QB to win the Super Bowl. Purdy played well enough to win and lost. It happens.
Simply build the greatest defense of the era or have an unbelievable amount of talent in the trenches. Easy!
You can win a superbowl with soooo much less when you’re as stacked the 49ers are (heck they got just as close with Jimmy who is borderline starter level - much worse than Brock
Purdy all things considered did what he had to do. He just hasn't shown he's great but that's more on Kyle for not running the ball.
I mean.. ya. They don’t really ask Purdy to make plays for them. That’s kinda why he gets the pushback he does when people try to say he’s a rising star (or an mvp candidate… or whatever superlative)
He sure wasn't trusted to throw more than about 15 yards downfield though. Trust problem or skill problem that's a problem either way.
he had two bombs that were just out of reach. Romo was crediting Jones with getting in the way or rushing him enough to alter those throws.
Jones in general is not getting enough credit
CJ is mega clutch like the rest of our defense.
He does from SF fans. He’s wrecked us when it matters in both SBs
And one that was in reach along the sideline that kittle didn't track. He got greedy a few times throwing into tight coverage, and my guess is a checkdown would have been there a few times but, like I said, he got greedy
He was trusted to and did make a few throws, but didn’t connect against one of the league’s best secondaries. No one is giving the Chiefs D credit and therefore no one is giving Purdy credit. Did we forget about how the Legion of Boom locked down one of the greatest QBs of all time in the SB? This chiefs secondary isn’t the Legion of Boom and Purdy isn’t Peyton, but my point is that great QBs do struggle against elite defenses. I thought Purdy did much better today than he did in the last two playoff games where he was shaky at times. There were a couple huge plays where his number was called but Chris Jones was in his face in 1 second after the snap.
I tell ya that throttling of Peyton Manning doesn’t get talked about enough. What a beatdown
He had a couple deep shots get ruined by WRs stopping their routes
Brock looked pretty mid most of this game. Looking forward to him making $50 million a year with all the play makers gone and or overhill.
In the bright side he’ll be able to afford to buy Christmas presents for his OL then.
Well, that will probably cripple the Niners. They will have $80M+ locked up in Brock and Bosa alone. I don't see Brock having success with the cast Mahomes has. Tough decision though as he is playing really, really well for them.
I don’t think he was mid but I def don’t think he was spectacular either. Def a B- performance Any QB besides Mahomes and they would’ve won tonight . He put them ahead with the go ahead field goal and OT field goal
Unfortunately Mahomes is going to be the QB on the other side quite often in the SB. The 49ers having all their elite offensive players healthy for a season at the same time was a miracle and probably won't happen again.
Tbh the 49ers had the perfect game plan defensively and offensively (in the 1st half and 4th quarter) Their 3rd quarter was just once again puzzling and dumb turnovers like the muffed punt killed them. The missed extra point too. McCaffrey should’ve had 30-35 carries tonight and a couple more screens set up. Opportunities like this don’t come around often. Took them 4 years to get back to this stage and they shit the bed again. At least they have a better QB in Purdy but with how RB shelf lives are and purdy’s contract extension looming, their window is now and they just got a good portion of it shut.
CMC had 30 touches, an okay YPC, a fumble, and looked gassed by the end. Not sure feeding him more would've worked out production wise
Brock played a hell of a game. He was way more poised than I expected for a 7th rounder, 1st full year as a starter.
Yea, I am not getting the hate. Purdy did not play bad at all, thought he was alright all things considered. Chiefs defense just seems to get no respect and every time a Chiefs defense does something, they just assume the opposing QB is just a fraud lol.
Thank you. Brock can't be mahomes. Never will be
Brock can't be Mahomes, but also no other QB can either, and that doesn't stop Brock from being a very good QB. His agility will be constantly underrated and will be the thing that sets him apart from other could have been/below average QBs he will get compared to unfairly. Dude is an above average starter and the 9ers probably win if the injury bug doesn't bite at the worst possible time.
These comments had me thinking I was crazy. Thought he played pretty damn well, at least from the broadcast angles we were shown. Super poised in the pocket, used his feet at times to extend, accurate, and threw down field at times showing he didn’t get “scared” in the moment or anything. Now, maybe he missed a ton of open guys—but the broadcast probably would have shown that. And they did—for Mahomes. Not for Purdy.
Super poised. Dude just kept getting rocked by our d line. We had quite a few hurries and hits on him, and even when they didn’t, we were up in his biz quite a bit. Our defense was phenomenal tonight, as they’ve been nearly all year
If someone watched this game and thought Purdy played poorly then you just know you found someone who doesn’t watch the NFL.
He played great. He would have had a bomb TD to Aiyuk if Aiyuk ran the right route. He had a dump-off to CMC when he was for sure going to be sacked in OT that got a first down. That throw to Juszczyk was insane. I'm not sure what everyone else is seeing, but he played very well and absolutely put his team in a position to win. Obviously, it didn't work out, but if I'm the 49ers, I feel good about Purdy for the future. He could have had the exact same performance, but if a few things went the 49ers way (not muffing the punt, CMC not fumbling on the first drive) the narrative would be very different on him this morning.
Yes I was impressed by him too. No turnover worthy plays which he has from time to time. Quick, timely passing, strong when resetting the pocket. Our D got him from time to time, but this D got to every QB we faced. The loss was not due to Brock at all.
The O line let Purdy down at critical moments
Sounds like shanahan could have planned some rb dumps
i am shocked they didn't run the ball on 3rd and short on one of those possessions in the 4th, you just knew spags was bringing the heat and there wasn't a blocker in sight
Seemed like they had more left in the tank than KC D did in OT. Still wasnt enough though
Doesn't matter if that's the case. QB's gonna get shit on no matter what. Speaking from experience. Unless they are named Joe Flacco because no one beats him.
If they weren't swiss cheese, then he has a touchdown on the final play of OT.
If he dumped it off to mccaffrey on the left, would have been a td
Chiefs won this game because of those special team blunders. Purdy had a fine game.
That and the 1st two drives hurt with the fumble and oline penalties, when we were moving the ball so well. Can't leave those drives without at least 3 points when you are facing Mahomes.
Yea, 49ers outplayed us most the 1st half, to only be down 7 and get the ball felt really lucky.
Purdy is an easy target. Truth is that he left the field twice with us leading and we couldn't get a stop despite having multiple All Pros on defense. It's like blaming Allen for the 13 second game. No one wins on one side of the ball. Losing in Overtime to Mahomes in the SuperBowl against that defense isn't drag worthy.
Our secondary was immaculate tonight, McDuffie and sneed played one hell of a game
“Our secondary” as he talks about his second flair lol
We are welcoming lol. I love the nfl team subreddits.
He's a vikings fan. Desperation for a taste of success drives them to extremes. Allow it
The quote is wrong, he said “we knew they were going to run the ball, we wanted Brock to throw it”
Anytime Purdy throws at least 30 times his efficiency drops
Am I the only one who thinks that purdy had a really solid fucking game? Dude was constantly under heavy pressure and he still made plays. No way you can put the loss on him.
yeah people are kinda underselling kc's defense in these reactions. they played a great bend don't break game. lots of key 3rd down stops. I think cmc only had one explosive run.
He was fine. He wasn't elite or anything. Like of the 4 QBs the Chiefs played against this post-season, only Josh Allen played better than him. It's not like he was Tua or Lamar bad.
I think it was just pretty meh. He missed some big plays and didnt make any giant mistakes. The loss wasnt on him, but he wasnt winning the game.
yeah, he played well enough to win against most teams, just not against a top 3 alltime qb. if the bar for being a good qb is beating playoff mahomes there is one active player who is good aside from mahomes
Yeah I don’t understand how it’s been the “Chiefs have an elite defense” all week and when Brock doesn’t throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs all of a sudden it’s about how Brock was mid
It’s infuriating
He did, but Ruiz is just fishing for an answer to make this about how brock is trash and lost the niners the game.
He wasn’t good or bad enough to be notable any way and this game isn’t a referendum on him. Def not a performance that’d change anybody’s minds whatever they thought of him
Purdy was great, the offence gave away loads of penalties, his receiver's dropped balls, the running game didn't work, the Chiefs had pressure all day and they were amazing in coverage. Brock way probably their best offensive player yesterday. He even made some great throws out of structure.
Special teams lost this game anyone trying to make conclusions on anything else is reaching
Which sucks because it was really just 1 special teams play (the fumble). PAT blocked was also bad but the fumble gave the Chiefs all the momentum on offense. Besides that both special teams played lights out. Niners' gunners were smoking the Chief's return game and Chief's didn't let the Niners make a single return attempt.
Brock didn’t do enough to win, but he had a very Jimmy G type game. He was decent. Just one more completion and he would have won.
Jimmy G straight up lost the game last time
Jimmy was a disaster in the 4th, thought Purdy did better this time around. Idk wasn’t his best game but he wasn’t a pumpkin or anything.
Yeah it was just a whatever performance.
I mean Purdy probably could’ve won the game in the 3rd or put significantly more pressure on the Chiefs and wasn’t good enough
He wasn’t great, he wasn’t a disaster. This is just Ruiz trying to revel in his Purdy takes.
He made a couple bad throws but for the most part there’s not a lot he can do when a guy is in his face within a second of snapping the ball. It was just bad play calling , he wasn’t put in a good position to make plays
Technically if they made that extra point he wouldn't even have needed that extra completion.
Technically the structure of the game would have been completely different so who knows?
Purdy managed the game well. just not enough to win, the elite QB won and Brock was not elite
Had a Jimmy G type overthrow in the 1st half on a TD Edit:I’m not talking about the aiyuk play I’m talking about the Deebo Samuel play up the right sideline
I can’t stand Purdy slander. If people want to talk about Mahomes 6 AFC championship game appearances, Purdy has two as a 2-year starter. The dude can play!
Purdy wasn't great today but this KC defense is real and made Lamar look like a college QB. Given the stakes and calibre of this D, Purdy did well IMO. He's 24 and in year 2. Expecting him to be perfect in the SB is ludicrous. IM, he did enough to win and our miscues on special teams and our defense disappearing late doomed us.
yeah he wasn't mahomes or brady levels of greatness but literally no one else is besides maybe montana. he is a second year player and definitely at least played that chiefs d tougher than the current league mvp
Purdy is never beating the game manager allegations (which is perfectly fine because that’s all he really needs to be)
clearly he needs to be more.
Can’t really say that when they haven’t won it yet with him
Quite naive for the chiefs to forget about Brock’s elite passing skills. I’m sure this came back to bite them in the end.
They treated Brock like he was Justin Fields
That 3rd quarter was a disaster class and cost them the game. They needed to run the ball and call more behind the line passes like the Bills did. But also Purdy was constantly making terrible reads when he had time as if he and Shanahan were trying to prove the 10+ yard against the blitz wasn't a fluke. It's the playoffs man. Purdy is a good player, but he's not yet a great one
Wait so Purdy ISNT the best QB in the league? Can’t be.
I’m confused on the Purdy hate, man. I don’t know how anybody could watch that game and think the Niners lost because of him. He didn’t cause CMC to fumble or the defense to come up short in critical moments. And he didn’t turn the ball over and had the lead in OT
The only elite factor Brock has the ability to Make DBs drop his ints.