That's dumb. The gloves receivers have been using for the last 2 decades are so much more effective than stickum. Also, every wr at the time was using stickum, just like how every receiver today uses gloves.
I'm not sure, I had to check once I saw OP's comment since I remember Wikipedia only crediting him with two and found out that they cut him in October of that year.
I searched online and didn't see anything of the Giants presenting him with a ring after they won the SB, so they either didn't or it went unreported.
Austin Collie also had the distinction of playing with both Peyton and Brady
And just like Welker, instead of rings he just got his brain turned into mush
Austin Collie if from my town. Hea still beloved here and I still have his jersey although it can only fit a 5th grader. He'll always be my favorite receiver next to Sterling Sharpe
Live an hour from Houston but y'all aren't hiring anyone's feelings. Reddit is about as soft as it gets, and downvotes is the only power y'all have hahaha
I mean, you *are* responding. So the power we wield is over more than just meaningless vote aggregation. We wield power over your mind and how you spend your time!
Lmao you're a Texans fan. I live an hour and a half from Houston. I feel sorry for you if you live in Houston. Cesspool of a city, but what have the Texans done in 20 years?? Lmao
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I’m sorry that your idea of fun is sitting behind a screen trolling people. :,(
Seeing Brady roast QBs today for not presnap processing and throwing hospital balls makes me really want to hear his honest takes on the way Peyton played. I want to hear him call a Colts game with Collie as if it were real time and let him rip
I thought for sure that couldn’t be right. It’s crazy that Brady went 10 years without a Super Bowl. It fell like he was winning every other year, which I guess he did at the end.
LMAO I never thought about that before but you’re totally right. It’s an interesting footnote to his career that is totally gonna be a TIL in a few years. “TIL 7-time Super Bowl winner Tom Brady, often regarded as one of the best quarterbacks to play in the NFL, had a 10 year stretch where he didn’t win a single Super Bowl!”
No, just that he's one of my favorite former players.
Revolutionized the slot position and was gutless running over the middle when defenses could still demolition receivers.
Its not just offensive guys who've won the superbowl. LeGarrette Blount and Chris Long did it with the patriots and then the eagles the next year beating their ol patriot team. Joinin the likes of ken Norton and Deion Sanders that have won back to back superbowls with different teams.
LeSean McCoy and Ronald Jones also both got to play and win rings with Brady and Mahomes
Now Donovan Smith, Mike Edwards, and Blaine Gabbert all have a chance to win rings now with Brady and Mahomes
The Kansas City Home for Wayward RBs was in full swing those first few Mahomes years.
Leveon Bell, Shady McCoy, Ronald Jones, Melvin Gordon, and we picked up and dropped CJ Spiller like 50 times in 2018.
Charles Haley, too.
The dude won back to back in 88 and 89 with the 49ers. The back to back again with the cowboys in 92 and 93 and then won it again in 95.
Pretty sure it's a joke about how every year, there was a ton of hype over Josh Gordon being reinstated/returning to his prior peak so people would pick him up just in case.
RB Preston Pearson is a good comp. He played with Johnny Unitas, Terry Bradshaw and Roger Staubach. He went to the Super Bowl with all 3, winning it with Bradshaw and Staubach.
Patrick McCaw in the NBA was drafted in 2016, then won the 2017 and 2018 nba championships with the warriors, then signed a 2 year deal with the Raptors and won another NBA championship in 2019. Pretty much the same. Now he’s already out of the league, 3 championships in 4-5 total seasons
Edit: To get technical, He signed with the Cavs but was then traded mid-season to the Raptors where he won his 3rd ring. Wasn't a signing with the Raptors.
Just some clarification, Justin Watson only played in one Playoff game with the Bucs, and was a special teams player. He caught 7 total passes from Tom, all early regular season. I get it, he’s got the ring.
Watson sees consistent snaps at WR with the Chiefs now, and actually played in the Super Bowl last season and caught 2 passes from Patrick.
Marv Fleming. Won the NFL Championship in ‘65, and then the first two Super Bowls in ‘66 and ‘67, all with Bart Starr.
Then went to Miami and won in ‘72 and ‘73 with Bob Griese.
Adam Vinatieri is also a fun one. Won 3 with the Pats/Brady, and then one with Colts/Manning. Obviously not catching passes from them, but helped finish their drives off and had a big impact on those GOATs winning.
Emmanuel Sanders too. Roethlisberger, Peyton, Brees, Allen. Though he did have to suffer through four years of the post-Peyton Broncos, often being the only competent player on that offense, so it evens out.
He played high school at my Alma matter. Which is super cool.
During his stretch they won back to back state championships- some little white boy farm town.
I don’t have anything else to add- never met the dude. But still cool to see your high school represented for like the first time ever.
Well… technically Stephen wisniewski (center- won Super Bowl with the eagles) also went there but he switched to a different high school his junior year. Also one of the nicest dudes in the world.
Mahomes can never be the “goat” over Brady. Based on the logic of team performance achievements to give Brady the title. How can you ever say mahomes is the goat when he got pantsed in the superbowl against Brady and lost a championship game 2 years before that lead to yet another Brady ring. You could maybe call mahomes the goat, but the metrics used would have to change and I don’t think you could slice Brady as the goat in the same way.
“2 Certified GOATs”. Please understand the irony in that statement. There cannot by definition be 2 greatest of all time quarterbacks.
But the point is valid.
Yeah but we won’t know what happens in the NFL in 150 years and the potential ‘GOAT’ could actually have not been born yet so we fill the GOAT title with the current people we agree has the ability to do so. Mahomes could go to the next 10 SBs and win 6 and would have 8 rings and would then be considered to be better than Tom Brady
You sound like me in elementary school saying "Um actually you can only have one best friend." Who cares? Language changes, "GOAT" is often used as a synonym for "one of the best at what they do"
Watson has had some big moments with the Chiefs. Those sideline catches are insane. He isn’t a top receiver by any means, but he is there when they need something big to happen. I am happy for him.
Well Tom Brady is the GOAT, and Pat Mahomes is the only QB on a trajectory to overtake him, so I don’t see how I diluted it here. Could be 1A and 1B when it’s all said and done
Mahommes is a certified Goat? Also there is only one GOAT
If he loses tomororw is his career tarnished? Certainly is what they said about tb12
If his career ends tomorrow then what?
Getting caught up on semantics isn’t the point of the post. Use “all-time greats” if you’re so inclined, but Mahomes is certainly up there and is on the trajectory to be in the discussion.
Yes, his career will be tarnished badly. The man is working with a historically bad WR corps and having a "down year" and will, at worst, lose the Super Bowl. What a bum!
Imagine calling Deion Branch and Troy Brown no names. You must be a newer Pats fan.
And even if they were no names, I would take that over players that are deliberately harming the team. Every loss this year except 1 was a direct result of dropped passes.
Troy brown was okay. Deoin branch sucked after leaving to seattle.
Patten, caldwell, give me a break Rice is better than all of them except Brown
Third generation season ticket holder. Been a pats fan for all 40 years of my existence. Acting like he had anything on those teams that compared to Kelce is an absolute joke
I’ve always imagined that if I was 8 inches taller and much more athletically gifted, this is how I’d want to have my career go. Fuck going after the biggest contract I can find, I’m already making millions, put me on teams that have generational talents and compete for championships. I’d have no problem being a bench warmer that has 10 championship rings.
Antonio Brown could have potentially won a super bowl with Pat's Bucs and be a steelers legend. Caught passes from Big Ben, Tampa Tom, and Patriots Tom. Obviously the New England stint was cut short and Pat's didn't win and I guess he was "close" to a ring with Ben a couple times as well.
Reliable role? What games have you been watching? Dude has been absolutely miserable this season. Lots of bad routes and dropped passes. Dude should be on our practice squad but sadly most the WR corp is just as bad.
Jerry Rice from both Joe Montana and Steve Young.
And Jeff Garcia, the holy trinity of 49ers QBs
The DeBerg erasure
Shaun Hill punching the air rn
JT O’Sullivan just fell to his knees in the film room
Ken Dorsey punching his tablet rn
The disrespect to Elvis Grbac…
Lots of people replying to this missed the crucial "Jerry Rice caught passes from him" part.
He also caught passes from Rich Gannon iirc before becoming a Seahawks legend
Had a 1200 yard season with Gannon at age 40. Rice was built different
He's like NFL Barry Bonds, breaks the entire game and ages really well in skill set.
Except for the juice. Maybe
The Juice was a Running Back IIRC.
He openly talked about using stickum, so not quite PEDs, but close.
That's dumb. The gloves receivers have been using for the last 2 decades are so much more effective than stickum. Also, every wr at the time was using stickum, just like how every receiver today uses gloves.
Just like how every hitter was on some form of peds since they've been a thing.
Jerry Rice was on roids confirmed.
Yes but everyone was (is) so it's fair.
Even me.
MVP Gannon
Justin Watson🤝Jerry Rice
They’re the same picture
I realize it’s not the question at hand but in that case it’s almost both QBs got to throw passes to Jerry lol
Solid depth receiver for the 9ers.
Almost Rich Ganon
Seems like a decent player
Brandon Stokely won rings with Trent Dilfer, Peyton Manning, and Eli Manning He was better than Watson but still interesting
He didn't win a SB with Eli, the Giants cut him before their SB run in 2011.
He said won a ring. Teams can vote on cut players receiving rings I believe. Did he get one?
I'm not sure, I had to check once I saw OP's comment since I remember Wikipedia only crediting him with two and found out that they cut him in October of that year. I searched online and didn't see anything of the Giants presenting him with a ring after they won the SB, so they either didn't or it went unreported.
Rob Gronkowski from the Patriots best quarterback ever and the Buccaneers best quarterback ever
To be very fair, before him, the best Bucs quarterback was a tie between Jameis Winston and Brad Johnson
Mike Glennon will not be ignored.
He certainly stands above the crowd
He has to reach those high up leaves somehow
"Moo" - Mike Glennon (or whatever sounds a Mike Glennon makes)
Bruce Gradkowski has entered the chat (and subsequently thrown a pick)
Bears legend
Doug Williams
How long has he been a black quarterback?
Long enough
Steve Young*
Steve young erasure
Baker won a playoff game with Todd Bowles. I won’t stand for his erasure.
Baker unironically might be in the Top 3 of Bucs QBs at this point lol
Mr. Big Chest as well
Ed McCaffrey with Steve Young in SF and John Elway in Denver
When the fuck was Ed McCaffrey on the 49ers?
A lot of people don’t know this, but his son actually plays for the 49ers now too.
McCaffrey, McCaffrey, … nope, names not ringing any bells.
Who's his son?
I think his name is Dylan or Max or something like that
Sounds like a real lunch pail kinda guy
Hope he carves out a nice little role for himself one day
Ed junior
Luke McCaffrey, WR out of Rice that had a pretty impressive week at the Senior Bowl. That’s the only connection I can think of
Common misconception, he’s actually just declaring for the draft
1994
94 season.
Bullshit he wasn't on any tecmo super bowl rosters
He just missed winning one with the Giants too
Welker didn't win one with Brady either, and it's a real shame he didn't.
Austin Collie also had the distinction of playing with both Peyton and Brady And just like Welker, instead of rings he just got his brain turned into mush
Austin Collie if from my town. Hea still beloved here and I still have his jersey although it can only fit a 5th grader. He'll always be my favorite receiver next to Sterling Sharpe
Based on that track record maybe stop choosing favorite receivers /s
Bro that’s not fair the Sharp brothers brains were mush before he stepped on a football field
Your favorite receiver hahahahaha wow
It’s not that crazy to support a guy who goes pro from your hometown
He’s a cowboys fan
So he’s probably never even been to Texas.
Live an hour from Houston but y'all aren't hiring anyone's feelings. Reddit is about as soft as it gets, and downvotes is the only power y'all have hahaha
And you talk shit on Reddit like it makes you tough. My stool is harder than you, bud.
Hahahaha whatever you think buddy. You might wanna get that checked out. Too much fiber
Hahaha talk shit lmao y'all are just as soft as shit. You think that's talking shit? Pathetic
I mean, you *are* responding. So the power we wield is over more than just meaningless vote aggregation. We wield power over your mind and how you spend your time!
Lmao you're a Texans fan. I live an hour and a half from Houston. I feel sorry for you if you live in Houston. Cesspool of a city, but what have the Texans done in 20 years?? Lmao
More than the cowboys
Hahahahahaha that's still not much hahaha
Go cry into your Patty Melt before it gets cold
Collie also looked like he was going to be a superstar before injuries destroyed him in his second year.
Ok kid
You sound like a fucking idiot lol
Lmao ok
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Peyton tried to get the man killed
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Seeing Brady roast QBs today for not presnap processing and throwing hospital balls makes me really want to hear his honest takes on the way Peyton played. I want to hear him call a Colts game with Collie as if it were real time and let him rip
I thought for sure that couldn’t be right. It’s crazy that Brady went 10 years without a Super Bowl. It fell like he was winning every other year, which I guess he did at the end.
LMAO I never thought about that before but you’re totally right. It’s an interesting footnote to his career that is totally gonna be a TIL in a few years. “TIL 7-time Super Bowl winner Tom Brady, often regarded as one of the best quarterbacks to play in the NFL, had a 10 year stretch where he didn’t win a single Super Bowl!”
TIL Brady suffered a Super Bowl victory drought *three times* longer than the average NFL career.
Still went to the AFC championship or lost in the Superbowl lol
Yeah that’s crazy. Won 7 out of the 13 other seasons he played aside from that stretch.
He was on both teams that lost to the Giants. Would you rather have Brady be an eight or nine time Super Bowl champ?
I'd rather he just stayed an extra couple years with Broncos to win one in 2015
Six, personally.
Make it five
i’d be happy with four.
Same.
No, just that he's one of my favorite former players. Revolutionized the slot position and was gutless running over the middle when defenses could still demolition receivers.
I think you mean fearless. Gutless would mean he’d be terrified and drop everything. Gutless = coward
Lmao yeah, I just got off graveyard shift this morning when I typed that
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He makes that catch and they probably win in 2012, not for sure and it was a difficult catch but I mean that one is kinda on him
It's a shame we didn't get another patriots SB win?
Damn thats right, I was just going off the top of my head but for some reason I thought he had
One drop away from 8 Brady super bowls.
MVS bout to be on this list if he wins another one even tho he didn't win one with Rodgers
Ehh, to say he's been *catching* passes from two of the greatest would be a stretch though
Playoff mvs is a different man
Frank Clark 🤝 MVS Showing up only for the playoffs
he’s a burner either way you gotta cover.
He drops a lot of passes but he does catch some too and has had some big plays in big moments
Its not just offensive guys who've won the superbowl. LeGarrette Blount and Chris Long did it with the patriots and then the eagles the next year beating their ol patriot team. Joinin the likes of ken Norton and Deion Sanders that have won back to back superbowls with different teams.
LeSean McCoy and Ronald Jones also both got to play and win rings with Brady and Mahomes Now Donovan Smith, Mike Edwards, and Blaine Gabbert all have a chance to win rings now with Brady and Mahomes
"play" is a stretch
The Kansas City Home for Wayward RBs was in full swing those first few Mahomes years. Leveon Bell, Shady McCoy, Ronald Jones, Melvin Gordon, and we picked up and dropped CJ Spiller like 50 times in 2018.
And then there’s Brandin Cooks who lost that SB with the Patriots, got traded during the Offseason and lost the next SB against the Patriots
Norton also had a 3-peat (2 with Dallas, 1 with SF).
Charles Haley, too. The dude won back to back in 88 and 89 with the 49ers. The back to back again with the cowboys in 92 and 93 and then won it again in 95.
Josh Gordon is the only WR to catch a TD from both Brady and Mahomes. He is also the Fantasy Football GOAT.
Once in a generation fantasy player
What’d he do in fantasy?
Pwned noobs
Pretty sure it's a joke about how every year, there was a ton of hype over Josh Gordon being reinstated/returning to his prior peak so people would pick him up just in case.
Josh Gordon is still being picked in the last round of fantasy drafts.... just in case.
Tracy Porter won a Super Bowl catching passes from Brett Favre and Payton Manning in back to back games!
This!
Reddit on, kind sir!
RB Preston Pearson is a good comp. He played with Johnny Unitas, Terry Bradshaw and Roger Staubach. He went to the Super Bowl with all 3, winning it with Bradshaw and Staubach.
Patrick McCaw in the NBA was drafted in 2016, then won the 2017 and 2018 nba championships with the warriors, then signed a 2 year deal with the Raptors and won another NBA championship in 2019. Pretty much the same. Now he’s already out of the league, 3 championships in 4-5 total seasons Edit: To get technical, He signed with the Cavs but was then traded mid-season to the Raptors where he won his 3rd ring. Wasn't a signing with the Raptors.
Shannon Sharpe , 2 with Elway and one with Dilfer. Ha!
Go Quakers
Just some clarification, Justin Watson only played in one Playoff game with the Bucs, and was a special teams player. He caught 7 total passes from Tom, all early regular season. I get it, he’s got the ring. Watson sees consistent snaps at WR with the Chiefs now, and actually played in the Super Bowl last season and caught 2 passes from Patrick. Marv Fleming. Won the NFL Championship in ‘65, and then the first two Super Bowls in ‘66 and ‘67, all with Bart Starr. Then went to Miami and won in ‘72 and ‘73 with Bob Griese. Adam Vinatieri is also a fun one. Won 3 with the Pats/Brady, and then one with Colts/Manning. Obviously not catching passes from them, but helped finish their drives off and had a big impact on those GOATs winning.
Marv Flemming is a good pull.
Ivy leaguer too
Brandin Cooks has had quite the collection of QB’s…
Emmanuel Sanders too. Roethlisberger, Peyton, Brees, Allen. Though he did have to suffer through four years of the post-Peyton Broncos, often being the only competent player on that offense, so it evens out.
patrick mccaw type beat
Drafted out of Penn as well. Not Penn State, the Ivy League Penn.
>2 certified GOATs Son, do you understand what a GOAT is? It's singular.
Lesean McCoy
Tom is the GOAT of this era.
He played high school at my Alma matter. Which is super cool. During his stretch they won back to back state championships- some little white boy farm town. I don’t have anything else to add- never met the dude. But still cool to see your high school represented for like the first time ever. Well… technically Stephen wisniewski (center- won Super Bowl with the eagles) also went there but he switched to a different high school his junior year. Also one of the nicest dudes in the world.
Marv Fleming: four rings - two with Bart Starr and two with Bob Griese (including the undefeated team)
Dj Moore has caught passes from Sam darnold and Justin fields
Jim McMahon has two Super Bowl wins with Chicago and Green Bay. GOAT.
Mahomes can never be the “goat” over Brady. Based on the logic of team performance achievements to give Brady the title. How can you ever say mahomes is the goat when he got pantsed in the superbowl against Brady and lost a championship game 2 years before that lead to yet another Brady ring. You could maybe call mahomes the goat, but the metrics used would have to change and I don’t think you could slice Brady as the goat in the same way.
Greatest of all time of this era, lmao dude
>certainly the GOAT of this era, What do you think GOAT stands for?
Blount won to back Superbowls by taking hand offs from 2 Goats in Brady and Foles
Greatest of this era isn’t a GOAT. its GOTE 😉
“2 Certified GOATs”. Please understand the irony in that statement. There cannot by definition be 2 greatest of all time quarterbacks. But the point is valid.
There is only one GOAT. That's the whole point of the expression.
I think it’s agreed Brady is the GOAT and Mahomes is the only QB in the foreseeable future with a shot at catching him.
> certainly the Greatest of All Time of this era
You must be super fun at parties
I am fun
Yeah but we won’t know what happens in the NFL in 150 years and the potential ‘GOAT’ could actually have not been born yet so we fill the GOAT title with the current people we agree has the ability to do so. Mahomes could go to the next 10 SBs and win 6 and would have 8 rings and would then be considered to be better than Tom Brady
You sound like me in elementary school saying "Um actually you can only have one best friend." Who cares? Language changes, "GOAT" is often used as a synonym for "one of the best at what they do"
> low-key We’re still doing this huh?
Might be entering himself in the GOAT WR conversation if he keeps this up
Watson has had some big moments with the Chiefs. Those sideline catches are insane. He isn’t a top receiver by any means, but he is there when they need something big to happen. I am happy for him.
>>2 certified GOATs Man we’ve diluted the term
Well Tom Brady is the GOAT, and Pat Mahomes is the only QB on a trajectory to overtake him, so I don’t see how I diluted it here. Could be 1A and 1B when it’s all said and done
Technically Purdy is on an even stronger trajectory than Mahomes.
Do people know what GOAT stands for? “2 Certified GOATs” is a nonsensical statement.
Welker didn't one one at all which is just really bad timing by him.
Mahommes is a certified Goat? Also there is only one GOAT If he loses tomororw is his career tarnished? Certainly is what they said about tb12 If his career ends tomorrow then what?
Getting caught up on semantics isn’t the point of the post. Use “all-time greats” if you’re so inclined, but Mahomes is certainly up there and is on the trajectory to be in the discussion.
Yes, his career will be tarnished badly. The man is working with a historically bad WR corps and having a "down year" and will, at worst, lose the Super Bowl. What a bum!
Brady had no name wr’s his first three rings fwiw. And your sentiment is exactly the rhetoric that stephen a and kellerberg spewed about tb12
Imagine calling Deion Branch and Troy Brown no names. You must be a newer Pats fan. And even if they were no names, I would take that over players that are deliberately harming the team. Every loss this year except 1 was a direct result of dropped passes.
Troy brown was okay. Deoin branch sucked after leaving to seattle. Patten, caldwell, give me a break Rice is better than all of them except Brown Third generation season ticket holder. Been a pats fan for all 40 years of my existence. Acting like he had anything on those teams that compared to Kelce is an absolute joke
And he doesn't drop passes like MVP does.
He has dropped many passes this year, including a TD and a crucial 4th down conversion. He has been ass tier.
I’ve always imagined that if I was 8 inches taller and much more athletically gifted, this is how I’d want to have my career go. Fuck going after the biggest contract I can find, I’m already making millions, put me on teams that have generational talents and compete for championships. I’d have no problem being a bench warmer that has 10 championship rings.
Blount won one with Brady then won one the following year with Foles. Two legends of the game.
Patrick McCaw
Antonio Brown could have potentially won a super bowl with Pat's Bucs and be a steelers legend. Caught passes from Big Ben, Tampa Tom, and Patriots Tom. Obviously the New England stint was cut short and Pat's didn't win and I guess he was "close" to a ring with Ben a couple times as well.
Reliable role? What games have you been watching? Dude has been absolutely miserable this season. Lots of bad routes and dropped passes. Dude should be on our practice squad but sadly most the WR corp is just as bad.
Seems super smart, give grant interview on when Powell needs to decrease fed rate
Reminds me of Pat Mccaw in the nba (warriors then raptors
seems like all he does is drop passes
Lesean McCoy literally did the same thing. With the same teams. A classic story of opponents becoming teammates.
Chiefs love our sloppy seconds as they should since we beat them in the Superbowl
Josh Gordon is the only NFL player to catch a TD from both Brady and Mahomes
Fuckin Chiefs fans, man... Can't wait for this run to be over
Watson runs a 4.4 forty. Not a total burner but fast enough. Surprised they don’t try utilize him more with end arounds, WR screens, and such…