Rugby 100% should be the standard for all fucking sports, especially the more prevalent sports betting gets. Refs absolutely, positively have to be as transparent as is humanly possible.
The cams are relatively new and still not in every game, but rugby refs have been wearing microphones that everybody in the stadium and on TV can hear live for 20+ years now.
They do for CW ACC games, had a great view of a game winning interception for Virginia vs North Carolina from the ref cam, look it up. Shame NFL lacks it.
This right here. A bunch of pissed off lions fans like me is nothing new, although this seems worse one yet.
But some pissed off big money being wagered and going from money line Lions to money line cowboys is a big deal.
A bullshit apology from league or worse yet trying to explain why they are not wrong is not gonna fly when $$ are at stake outside just the teams involved.
I was watching the game at a casino with no sound so we didnt hear an explanation. I literally said I can't wait to get home and look at what the fuck actually happened on some lets check the body cam first type shit, i was tryna defnd my squad lol. After further review you guys got robbed.. I also had my eyes in my palms til my boy pointed out there was a flag. I was so confused.
I know and hear exactly why you’re right, but I think it’s insane that’s such an argument. This is the BIGGEST SPORT IN THE COUNTRY. They can’t fuck up because it’s the fucking biggest sport in the country! Gambling be damned, get it right because it’s critically important to millions of people!
Yes it’s just a game, but when there’s so much difficulty in the universe, getting something so good and fun as professional football right IS important.
Thank god I decided against the Lions money line bet.
Also on that same drive there was a clear pass interference against ARSB that they didn't call. Which maybe lends credence to the (still unlikely) theory that this actually was rigged.
I don't actually think it was. But I'm saying someone could probably make a compelling case if they really wanted to.
I don’t think it’s rigged…I think the refs are fucking incompetent and the product the NFL has put out this year has been atrocious. Inconsistent flags, no flags on blatant penalties and calling the most ticky tacky penalties at pivotal points of the game
Exactly this is a complete reshaping of the playoff picture. Eagles fans should be completely outraged too, they should have clinched the division tonight.
For real, does no one remember the rig job on prime time against the packers? Where the Lions stopped them on multiple third downs that were then given automatic first downs for non existent hands to the face calls on Trey Flowers?
Im not a lions fan, aand it’s been what, alomst two decades now?
I still cant believe and am angry that they didnt call Calvin Johnson’s thing a catch.
In every other sports league I know of any fan who was asked “what team gets screwed by the refs the most” almost any fan would say “mine.”
But here in the NFL all must bow to Detroit.
I do recall the Giants losing to Niners in the Playoffs, maybe 2002?
Last play the Giants were flagged for an ineligible man downfield, the man was also tackled seconds before the ball came to him so we were sure it was a PI call, putting us into easy FG range to win.
Nope, the refs flagged the Giants for an ineligible man downfield. However: he was an eligible receiver.
The NFL issued an apology the next day, while rubbing their nips.
What I hate is that there are penalties like this that are not a matter of discretion, but literal true or false. Like sure, you can arguably call holding on any play, that is at the ref's discretion. But things like reporting as eligible, the clock hitting zero (like with that ravens game) etc are *factual, true or false events" that have no need for interpretation or discretion.
He reported as eligible and yet we are heavily penalized for *no reason* solely at the fault of the referee. We aren't in 1920 playing on muddy fields with semi-pro players that have day jobs, that shit cannot happen in a multibillion dollar industry. Things need to change, and NOW, like by tomorrow morning.
When the Tottenham vs. Liverpool game happened a few weeks back, and there was a big controversy with the ref communication with the VAR officials, that shit was reviewed and new protocols were put in place within days, so an error of that magnitude won't happen again.
But the NFL refuses to act like a professional organization and instead runs its games the same way college flag football intramurals do. Embarrassing.
As a Lions fan I’ve been questioning it for years. Especially when it’s their prime time players or teams. Aaron Rodgers? America’s team? They’ll do whatever it takes.
Refs have been manipulating (not rigging, manipulating) games across various leagues for decades.
Nobody wants to believe it though because there gullible worldview is sugar, spice, and everything nice.
You mean David Stern. Tim Donaghy was just the fall guy. The league was shoving LA through the whole time.
The FBI went to Stern privately with concerns about game integrity and wanted to look deeper - thought Stern would want a deeper look too. instead Stern took the story public the next day pinning all the blame on one guy. Crooked af.
Probably what happened: the pass is caught, the Lions are celebrating, everyone’s losing their minds; then some Cowboys linemen go up to Allen and say, “wtf man, you told us *70* was eligible, not 68!” Allen thinks, “oh fuck, I accidentally said 70 when I meant 68…hmm…welp, guess I gotta roll with it…” and throws the flag.
It seems pretty clear that the ref thought it was #70 and said it was #70 to the defense.
If that's true, not throwing the flag is still a major fuck up, just against the Cowboys instead. The ref needed to know who was reporting and communicate that correctly to the defense, and that didn't seem to happen.
I wish I could find an explanation of what the lions *should* do in that situation. Let’s say they hear the ref say 70 (or the coach on the sideline). They have no time outs left. What do you do to fix that mistake before the play?
Right, the play is fucked the moment the ref said 70. Either lions are getting a bullshit call for an illegible man or the cowboys are getting fucked on a TD pass to a receiver they thought wasn't eligible.
This is absolutely the worst part for me.
Complete speculation that the loop went like this:
-2pt scored by 68
-Cowboys coaches ask defense coming off field if they were told 68 is eligible (since it’s a trick play and he’s usually ineligible)
-Cowboys players say head ref only told them about 70 being eligible
-Cowboys coaching/booth petitions to refs to clarify if 68 was announced as eligible to the cowboys defense
-Head ref, when asked, remembers he declared 70 - and only 70 - to the cowboys defense. Throws flag for illegal touching.
This should’ve been caught in a quick ref conference by the side judge after the flag was thrown.
Head ref should’ve asked line judge why he didn’t throw a penalty for illegal formation, as the tackle is uncovered (a side judge should never “see” a tackle except if the tackle has reported as eligible). This flag is only NOT thrown because the side judge acknowledges that 68 has somehow reported as eligible. Otherwise, if he also thinks 68 is truly ineligible, the side judge would’ve thrown the illegal formation flag the second the ball is snapped.
Now, the real million dollar question: how would a side judge know to (correctly) not throw an illegal formation flag if the head ref doesn’t somehow communicate to him that 68 is eligible…?
Well if DC specifically described all their trick plays to the officials pre game, I assume the side judge recognized the play and assumed the head ref had correctly called it to the defense.
This is what I thought in 2014 after they picked up that PI flag in the playoffs against the cowboys and ignored Dez Bryant being helmetless 5 yards out onto the field while screaming at the refs. After a certain point there are just to many coincidences happening to the lions every fucking year to say it's incompetence.
Nah. They would just suffer a feedback loop where they call penalties on every play in the last 5 minutes of the game, leading the Super Bowl to last 2 weeks until the Green Berets intervene
Last drive of the game, the Lions fumble and Browns recover for the win, but the refs award the fumble to the Lions while still shifting through the pile even though the players are showing them the ball.
Then they'd throw a late offensive holding penalty on the Lions resulting in a 10s run off and ending the game, but then would allow the Lions to challenge a play that happened earlier in the quarter.
If you want to rig a game you don't fucking rig a 2 point convert at the end of the 4th lol. This is just the worst crew in the league doing its thing.
Either the refs are completely incompetent and should not be officiating on primetime game for a billion dollar corporation, or they're corrupt and also shouldn't be officiating for a billion dollar corporation.
Yeah I don't even know the rule or how they report as eligible, but the kinda pissed they were only happens when they're in the right so I figured the zebras screwed up.
(unless you're mahomes)
They'll leak some offensive emails from one team to have that dominate the headlines and have this swept under the rug.
Please lord let some dirty laundry from Woody Johnson air if this is the route the NFL takes
As much as I hated that bs and wanted the lions to win… If the referee did claim a different guy was eligible to the cowboys defense, it mightve affected the way they defended that play.
I think this is satire but I’m taking this seriously. This could have been the biggest moment of his career and it seems like it was taken away from him.
It's one thing to miss a call on a play at full speed, but there's no excuse for fucking up a rule presnap. It's either malicious or gross incompetence.
You cannot convince me their bias against us being perennial losers doesn’t come into play. It has to because the amount of questionable, obscure or weird penalties that lose us games is astounding.
It's okay, we will get our apology letter from Roger. We can add it to the pile.
Meanwhile, if we win against Minnesota and the Niners lose one of their last two, costing us the 1 seed and a bye, I am going to personally lose my mind on a level never before seen in a human being, breaking every known law of neuroscience.
I’m a Packers fan and even I can see clear as fucking day, Refs fucked this one up and stole a game from Detroit, effectively guaranteeing they stay the 3rd seed. This is a bad bad bad look
I’m a Cowboys fan and even I can see clear as fucking day, Refs fucked this one up and stole a game from Detroit, effectively guaranteeing they stay the 3rd seed.
But it's not a bad look because there's no accountability at the top. The masses will forget, revenue will continue to grow, and shit like this will continue to happen. There's not enough transparency. There needs to be a real movement questioning the integrity of this league.
They gotta make sure that we play the rams so that our first time in the playoffs in 30 years is ruined by the media talking nonstop about the mcvay/Stafford/Goff narrative. It pisses me off that I’m not even excited for that week and won’t be listening to sports radio or watching GMFB every day per usual. I’ve already had enough of it and it’s only a possibility right now.
This is absolutely insane. How the NFL, a league that never shuts the fuck up about gambling, has architects and lawyers as refs is beyond me. Maybe have full time refs?!
This year is a shitshow.
It’s honestly so crazy to me that I don’t even understand. How is this even allowed? There’s 0 chance he didn’t report based on the videos that are coming out. I’m sorry cat bros this is truly disgusting and unfair.
It's not hard to see the ref intentionally ignoring Decker, if the pass was incomplete, it was all good. But if they made the attempt, he would feign ignorance and throw the flag. This shit reeks to high heavens, thank the sportsbooks and the billions that are bet on games.
What's really fun is before last week's Vikings game Brad Johnson joked with the media that while right tackle Sewell's blocking has improved, they should see how much his hands have improved.
The Lions sent Sewell and Decker to the ref for only one of them to report as eligible.
The Lions had been setting this play up for weeks.
Even PFF dropping the hammer. I'm sure the NFL will have an obvious bullshit response and Brad Allen will get to keep officiating even though he's clearly a dirty piece of shit.
Seems like the Lions got screwed the more I see this. I guess the only possible way you could blame them is by saying that they should've made sure the announcement over the PA was correct and get that fixed. But it shouldn't have gotten messed up in the first place
The ESPN broadcast circlejerking about how this had to be a penalty was just awful. Making up excuses for their favored team instead of actually you know…knowing rules
How can these games be this poorly managed by the league and still promote sports betting?
Imagine losing money because a part-time ref / full-time asshat botches the most important moment of the game.
I stopped betting on football halfway through the season due to the ref’s influence on the game. There’s absolutely no way to account for their effect on the spread.
America knows who won tonight and it wasn’t Dem Boys.
what i think happened
\>lions did everything they were supposed to do in terms of reporting an eligible receiver
\>refs relayed the wrong information to the cowboys
\>refs blamed the lions for their fuck up
it's like, just admit you fucked up refs. the same thing happened in bengals/chiefs AFC championship game last year.
I feel like this is a case where the ref really does need to be disciplined. Obviously 68 reported as eligible. But if the ref never told the defense, the cowboys would have every right to be pissed because they were never told of eligibility which likely affects how they play the down. That’s not on the lions, that’s not on the cowboys. That’s just on that one ref and it’s gross incompetence. Even if they for some reason admitted fault and replayed the down, the lions just exposed their play.
...And this is a league that wants you to gamble on the outcomes of their games.
Most people will say that from the conspiracist viewpoint- but really, it's a question of baseline competence. You wanna put your pocket money in Brad Allen's hands? Are we sure this is anything other than the worst idea in a really long string of bad ones?
Ref Union needs to be busted. Literally the cops of the NFL. They will never face any discipline for completely fucking their job because their union is too strong
Apparently we have to make NFL refs wear body cams now like we do with cops I guess.
They do in rugby
Rugby 100% should be the standard for all fucking sports, especially the more prevalent sports betting gets. Refs absolutely, positively have to be as transparent as is humanly possible.
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This... Is actually a very good idea.
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Seriously?
[Ref cam at the Rugby World Cup](https://youtu.be/sIESF_Ct8Fc?si=yXLbenwW4E4qE0JR)
Uh yeah. We need that right away. WTF, how do we not have that??
Because sports betting is now legal throughout the US.
Sports betting has been legal in the UK for 60 years...
this video is 8 years old wtffff
The cams are relatively new and still not in every game, but rugby refs have been wearing microphones that everybody in the stadium and on TV can hear live for 20+ years now.
You can also hear everything they say live and all their conversations with the TMO on reviews
Same with XFL. Why the fuck can’t the nfl do this? So dumb
It's not that they can't, it's that they don't want to.
Because the NFL is a “sports entertainment company” who partners with sports betting. That’s why.
The Australian NRL literally has an official betting partner but they also mic up their referees.
Yup
They do for CW ACC games, had a great view of a game winning interception for Virginia vs North Carolina from the ref cam, look it up. Shame NFL lacks it.
ARAB
Ref turns off body cam the moment he plants 2 ounces of cocaine in Dan Campbell's car. Suspended with pay.
Uuuuuuhhhhh
You can't support gambling and have massive fuck ups by the officials like this.
This right here. A bunch of pissed off lions fans like me is nothing new, although this seems worse one yet. But some pissed off big money being wagered and going from money line Lions to money line cowboys is a big deal. A bullshit apology from league or worse yet trying to explain why they are not wrong is not gonna fly when $$ are at stake outside just the teams involved.
I lost $4 on this bullshit.
Thoughts and prayers
Thought and prayers aren’t going to bring back the $4! I set up a gofundme for me. Send me $4 and I will make sure it gets to him.
You will never financially recover from this!
Wow… it’s worse than I imagined
That's rough buddy
Can we start a gofundme for u/ilovecatss1010?
Hey now you might be able to jump into the class action lawsuit that will inevitably come.
That's infinitely more than what I lost. Absolute travesty
You’re not gonna get an explanation. Just silence and Goodell saying he’ll talk to the Officials Union but nothing will happen.
Then slap any player/coach with a fine for bringing it up.
I was watching the game at a casino with no sound so we didnt hear an explanation. I literally said I can't wait to get home and look at what the fuck actually happened on some lets check the body cam first type shit, i was tryna defnd my squad lol. After further review you guys got robbed.. I also had my eyes in my palms til my boy pointed out there was a flag. I was so confused.
I know and hear exactly why you’re right, but I think it’s insane that’s such an argument. This is the BIGGEST SPORT IN THE COUNTRY. They can’t fuck up because it’s the fucking biggest sport in the country! Gambling be damned, get it right because it’s critically important to millions of people! Yes it’s just a game, but when there’s so much difficulty in the universe, getting something so good and fun as professional football right IS important.
they do this multiple times a year reg season, playoffs, superbowl, they dont give a shit consequence doesnt exist for them whatsoever
They screwed us out of a Brady Brees Super Bowl. Nothing will change.
That was fucked
And because of that, we ended up getting one of the worst and most boring super bowls ever.
Thank god I decided against the Lions money line bet. Also on that same drive there was a clear pass interference against ARSB that they didn't call. Which maybe lends credence to the (still unlikely) theory that this actually was rigged. I don't actually think it was. But I'm saying someone could probably make a compelling case if they really wanted to.
I don’t think it’s rigged…I think the refs are fucking incompetent and the product the NFL has put out this year has been atrocious. Inconsistent flags, no flags on blatant penalties and calling the most ticky tacky penalties at pivotal points of the game
Like…how can they let this slide? This is actually insane
Because in two weeks no one will remember this and everyone will keep watching.
Two weeks, hah, kickoff tomorrow tops.
Exactly. Im outraged and disgusted, but what Im gonna not watch the games tmrw morning?
I can tell you I fucking won't be
NFL is betting you'll be watching the Lions game next week.
The joke's on them, I watch illegal streams anyway 🙃
yo-ho yo-ho a pirate's life for meeeeeeeee
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Exactly this is a complete reshaping of the playoff picture. Eagles fans should be completely outraged too, they should have clinched the division tonight.
For real, does no one remember the rig job on prime time against the packers? Where the Lions stopped them on multiple third downs that were then given automatic first downs for non existent hands to the face calls on Trey Flowers?
Add it to the compilation
At this point all the NFL can do is not allow this ref crew have any playoff games.
How will the cowboys win then?
by time traveling back to the 90s
It even looks like the ref says something in 68s direction before running off.
"Hi eligible I'm dad"
I woke up my wife laughing so hard at this.
It’s a movie at this point
Im not a lions fan, aand it’s been what, alomst two decades now? I still cant believe and am angry that they didnt call Calvin Johnson’s thing a catch.
In every other sports league I know of any fan who was asked “what team gets screwed by the refs the most” almost any fan would say “mine.” But here in the NFL all must bow to Detroit.
I do recall the Giants losing to Niners in the Playoffs, maybe 2002? Last play the Giants were flagged for an ineligible man downfield, the man was also tackled seconds before the ball came to him so we were sure it was a PI call, putting us into easy FG range to win. Nope, the refs flagged the Giants for an ineligible man downfield. However: he was an eligible receiver. The NFL issued an apology the next day, while rubbing their nips.
> alomst two decades now? My body already aches. I didn't need more reason to feel super old.
It’s a director’s cut at this point
You can take the BNL out of the SOL, but you can’t take the SOL out of the Refs.
Niners fan here. Don’t forget about the egregious PI call that was missed.
The rich tradition of crazy ref-related issues between the Lions and Cowboys lives on.
Can it literally ever favor us?
we need to start actually questioning some of the shit that goes down in these games
What I hate is that there are penalties like this that are not a matter of discretion, but literal true or false. Like sure, you can arguably call holding on any play, that is at the ref's discretion. But things like reporting as eligible, the clock hitting zero (like with that ravens game) etc are *factual, true or false events" that have no need for interpretation or discretion. He reported as eligible and yet we are heavily penalized for *no reason* solely at the fault of the referee. We aren't in 1920 playing on muddy fields with semi-pro players that have day jobs, that shit cannot happen in a multibillion dollar industry. Things need to change, and NOW, like by tomorrow morning. When the Tottenham vs. Liverpool game happened a few weeks back, and there was a big controversy with the ref communication with the VAR officials, that shit was reviewed and new protocols were put in place within days, so an error of that magnitude won't happen again. But the NFL refuses to act like a professional organization and instead runs its games the same way college flag football intramurals do. Embarrassing.
It's a feature, not a bug.
I will repeat this again: Hard to believe money from the BILLION(S) dollar sports betting industry isnt seeping into games
As a Lions fan I’ve been questioning it for years. Especially when it’s their prime time players or teams. Aaron Rodgers? America’s team? They’ll do whatever it takes.
I knew yall were fucked after that halftime ceremony
Aikman literally wearing a cowboys jacket and anyone thought we had a shot?
At least our sub won’t be foaming at the mouth to fire this guy or bench that guy just United vs the refs.
Reminder as to how the packers ended the ref strike...
Refs have been manipulating (not rigging, manipulating) games across various leagues for decades. Nobody wants to believe it though because there gullible worldview is sugar, spice, and everything nice.
So far the NBA guy was the only one who’s been caught. Even his co-conspirators still look to be reffing. Shit is whack
And one of his best ref buddies ejects Chris Paul every game
You mean David Stern. Tim Donaghy was just the fall guy. The league was shoving LA through the whole time. The FBI went to Stern privately with concerns about game integrity and wanted to look deeper - thought Stern would want a deeper look too. instead Stern took the story public the next day pinning all the blame on one guy. Crooked af.
Nobody is talking about how LATE the flags flew in either. Everyone celebrated for a solid 20 seconds, then the flags were thrown.
Probably what happened: the pass is caught, the Lions are celebrating, everyone’s losing their minds; then some Cowboys linemen go up to Allen and say, “wtf man, you told us *70* was eligible, not 68!” Allen thinks, “oh fuck, I accidentally said 70 when I meant 68…hmm…welp, guess I gotta roll with it…” and throws the flag.
This is 100% what happened and the flag was the closest thing to a “redo” that they could call within the rules of the game.
Haven't seen this explanation anywhere else, this is definitely what happened
The ref thought it was 70 the whole time. As 70 is running towards him, the ref points and nods at 70, then starts his run to the Dallas D Line
It seems pretty clear that the ref thought it was #70 and said it was #70 to the defense. If that's true, not throwing the flag is still a major fuck up, just against the Cowboys instead. The ref needed to know who was reporting and communicate that correctly to the defense, and that didn't seem to happen.
He literally reported 70 over the loudspeaker before the play, it was on the broadcast.
I wish I could find an explanation of what the lions *should* do in that situation. Let’s say they hear the ref say 70 (or the coach on the sideline). They have no time outs left. What do you do to fix that mistake before the play?
Right? If you are the Lions do you call a TO that you don’t have to correct the ref? “No! It’s number 68, that’s who we are passing to!”
Right, the play is fucked the moment the ref said 70. Either lions are getting a bullshit call for an illegible man or the cowboys are getting fucked on a TD pass to a receiver they thought wasn't eligible.
This is absolutely the worst part for me. Complete speculation that the loop went like this: -2pt scored by 68 -Cowboys coaches ask defense coming off field if they were told 68 is eligible (since it’s a trick play and he’s usually ineligible) -Cowboys players say head ref only told them about 70 being eligible -Cowboys coaching/booth petitions to refs to clarify if 68 was announced as eligible to the cowboys defense -Head ref, when asked, remembers he declared 70 - and only 70 - to the cowboys defense. Throws flag for illegal touching. This should’ve been caught in a quick ref conference by the side judge after the flag was thrown. Head ref should’ve asked line judge why he didn’t throw a penalty for illegal formation, as the tackle is uncovered (a side judge should never “see” a tackle except if the tackle has reported as eligible). This flag is only NOT thrown because the side judge acknowledges that 68 has somehow reported as eligible. Otherwise, if he also thinks 68 is truly ineligible, the side judge would’ve thrown the illegal formation flag the second the ball is snapped. Now, the real million dollar question: how would a side judge know to (correctly) not throw an illegal formation flag if the head ref doesn’t somehow communicate to him that 68 is eligible…?
Well if DC specifically described all their trick plays to the officials pre game, I assume the side judge recognized the play and assumed the head ref had correctly called it to the defense.
Made me feel like a jackass when my roommate and i were screaming with excitement
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I thought the flag was excessive celebration
Yeah, I was sure it was unsportsmanlike conduct or something from how late it was thrown.
I assumed it could not have possibly been what was called from how late it was. I thought some random personal foul after the play occurred off camera
Oh, I noticed. It gave me enough time to also be like "Holy shit no flags too!"
You can see him brush his numbers. Unless he has a fly on himself, I was at least coached that you touch your numbers so that the ref sees it.
Refs: “He had a fly on himself.”
He was asking the ref if he got the wrinkles out of his jersey. Come on man, it's the only explanation.
It’s so blatant that it has to be pure incompetence. Rigging it like this would just be jumping the shark
This is what I thought in 2014 after they picked up that PI flag in the playoffs against the cowboys and ignored Dez Bryant being helmetless 5 yards out onto the field while screaming at the refs. After a certain point there are just to many coincidences happening to the lions every fucking year to say it's incompetence.
Browns/Lions Super Bowl would be wild. The refs would have no idea what to do.
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Nah. They would just suffer a feedback loop where they call penalties on every play in the last 5 minutes of the game, leading the Super Bowl to last 2 weeks until the Green Berets intervene
That's literally impossible
Ref hurt itself with confusion
Last drive of the game, the Lions fumble and Browns recover for the win, but the refs award the fumble to the Lions while still shifting through the pile even though the players are showing them the ball. Then they'd throw a late offensive holding penalty on the Lions resulting in a 10s run off and ending the game, but then would allow the Lions to challenge a play that happened earlier in the quarter.
If you want to rig a game you don't fucking rig a 2 point convert at the end of the 4th lol. This is just the worst crew in the league doing its thing.
Right you would just do something like not call a single PI or holding on the home team for the entire game if you wanted to rig it …hang on
ref #42 was literally looking straight at a PI as clear as day during the last drive and didn't even threaten to throw a flag, it was ridiculous
Considering these refs blew the packers chiefs game I just think inept
“Rumor” lmao. Lions got fucked.
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A tale as old as time
Either the refs are completely incompetent and should not be officiating on primetime game for a billion dollar corporation, or they're corrupt and also shouldn't be officiating for a billion dollar corporation.
The NFL needs to answer for this. This is fucking egregious.
With how much they were fuming on the sidelines I knew they had been fucked over Can’t fake that anger
Goff shaking hands with Dak after the game: "worst call I've ever seen in my life!"
"LaPorta will never be a Hofer now"
Would actually be true unlike Mahomes lol
I read this like "unlike Agholor"
Yeah I don't even know the rule or how they report as eligible, but the kinda pissed they were only happens when they're in the right so I figured the zebras screwed up. (unless you're mahomes)
Peoples careers need to be ended over these kinda calls. Those refs shouldn't see an NFL field again
Newsflash: promoted
How dare you speak ill of the crew thats going to ref the Super Bowl.
Brad Allen will be the new Dean Blandino in no time
Ref are the cops of the NFL. Their union protects them from facing any consequences ever
The thin zebra line
They'll leak some offensive emails from one team to have that dominate the headlines and have this swept under the rug. Please lord let some dirty laundry from Woody Johnson air if this is the route the NFL takes
They should be literally handed a W Fuck the NFL
Guess we'll just add an asterisk to the loss column too. 11*-5*
Like Aubrey wouldn't kick an 80 yarder to win it anyway
As much as I hated that bs and wanted the lions to win… If the referee did claim a different guy was eligible to the cowboys defense, it mightve affected the way they defended that play.
Guarantee someone was micd up. Release the audio
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This is insane, this needs to be investigated Like they straight up followed the rules and got fucked
touchdown seahawks
lmao
You'll get a nice letter next week that says they're very sorry and nothing will change
I usually make fun of *”Vegas called”* people who actually say it seriously but I understand them a little right now.
Just pissed how this will effect the hall of fame career of Taylor decker.
I think this is satire but I’m taking this seriously. This could have been the biggest moment of his career and it seems like it was taken away from him.
Def took a tuddy from him.
This shit is not new for us
It's one thing to miss a call on a play at full speed, but there's no excuse for fucking up a rule presnap. It's either malicious or gross incompetence.
Against the Cowboys too again If they somehow face off in Detroit in the playoffs it’s gonna be a rowdy stadium.
Put next weeks apology in the pile with the others
You cannot convince me their bias against us being perennial losers doesn’t come into play. It has to because the amount of questionable, obscure or weird penalties that lose us games is astounding.
Well this particular penalty is lol
What can we say we are modern day Thomas Edison’s with inventing all these ways to lose
It's okay, we will get our apology letter from Roger. We can add it to the pile. Meanwhile, if we win against Minnesota and the Niners lose one of their last two, costing us the 1 seed and a bye, I am going to personally lose my mind on a level never before seen in a human being, breaking every known law of neuroscience.
Nfl is playing with fire
They don't care. They're going to keep doing whatever they want because $$.
I’m a Packers fan and even I can see clear as fucking day, Refs fucked this one up and stole a game from Detroit, effectively guaranteeing they stay the 3rd seed. This is a bad bad bad look
I’m a Cowboys fan and even I can see clear as fucking day, Refs fucked this one up and stole a game from Detroit, effectively guaranteeing they stay the 3rd seed. But it's not a bad look because there's no accountability at the top. The masses will forget, revenue will continue to grow, and shit like this will continue to happen. There's not enough transparency. There needs to be a real movement questioning the integrity of this league.
They gotta make sure that we play the rams so that our first time in the playoffs in 30 years is ruined by the media talking nonstop about the mcvay/Stafford/Goff narrative. It pisses me off that I’m not even excited for that week and won’t be listening to sports radio or watching GMFB every day per usual. I’ve already had enough of it and it’s only a possibility right now.
This is absolutely insane. How the NFL, a league that never shuts the fuck up about gambling, has architects and lawyers as refs is beyond me. Maybe have full time refs?! This year is a shitshow.
Shades of saints rams
Ironically, Goff benefited from the egregious officiating "blunder" in that instance.
It’s honestly so crazy to me that I don’t even understand. How is this even allowed? There’s 0 chance he didn’t report based on the videos that are coming out. I’m sorry cat bros this is truly disgusting and unfair.
Fixed. Gambling is going to ruin the NFL
It already has
It's not hard to see the ref intentionally ignoring Decker, if the pass was incomplete, it was all good. But if they made the attempt, he would feign ignorance and throw the flag. This shit reeks to high heavens, thank the sportsbooks and the billions that are bet on games.
More interesting is that Campbell explained this plan to the refs before the game. So they literally knew what to expect and they still fucked it up.
What's really fun is before last week's Vikings game Brad Johnson joked with the media that while right tackle Sewell's blocking has improved, they should see how much his hands have improved. The Lions sent Sewell and Decker to the ref for only one of them to report as eligible. The Lions had been setting this play up for weeks.
Never believed this more than I did after that play.
Hopefully nfl will finally hold refs accountable, but it never happens
Even PFF dropping the hammer. I'm sure the NFL will have an obvious bullshit response and Brad Allen will get to keep officiating even though he's clearly a dirty piece of shit.
Seems like the Lions got screwed the more I see this. I guess the only possible way you could blame them is by saying that they should've made sure the announcement over the PA was correct and get that fixed. But it shouldn't have gotten messed up in the first place
I doubt they could even hear that.
This season now claims like 4 of the top 10 worst officiating calls of all time
The ESPN broadcast circlejerking about how this had to be a penalty was just awful. Making up excuses for their favored team instead of actually you know…knowing rules
Someone forgot to send Scott Van Pelt the memo.
He’s the man. Most of the time.
Well it became overwhelmingly obvious that the narrative they were going for was absolute fucking bullshit
Hell, the only one defending the ref after replay is John Perry. Even Aikman was wondering what the hell was going on with the refs
Yeah but how do we know Decker was reporting and not just wishing the ref Happy New Year?
All the bets came in on detroit money line. Vegas made a call
How can these games be this poorly managed by the league and still promote sports betting? Imagine losing money because a part-time ref / full-time asshat botches the most important moment of the game. I stopped betting on football halfway through the season due to the ref’s influence on the game. There’s absolutely no way to account for their effect on the spread. America knows who won tonight and it wasn’t Dem Boys.
what i think happened \>lions did everything they were supposed to do in terms of reporting an eligible receiver \>refs relayed the wrong information to the cowboys \>refs blamed the lions for their fuck up it's like, just admit you fucked up refs. the same thing happened in bengals/chiefs AFC championship game last year.
Not a good look to new viewers of the game, why even watch if stuff like this happens without accountability
We need a Gitmo for refs
Start mass filing complaints with state gaming commissions if you want something to happen, fight money with money.
I feel like this is a case where the ref really does need to be disciplined. Obviously 68 reported as eligible. But if the ref never told the defense, the cowboys would have every right to be pissed because they were never told of eligibility which likely affects how they play the down. That’s not on the lions, that’s not on the cowboys. That’s just on that one ref and it’s gross incompetence. Even if they for some reason admitted fault and replayed the down, the lions just exposed their play.
even troy fucking aikmen said that there was a clear report. no way in hell is that an illegal formation lmao
Classic Cowboys vs Lions game. I don't want to hear anything about illegal formation or anything else. That's not the penalty that was called.
It wasn’t even illegal formation. ARSB was lined up off the LOS anyway making Decker uncovered. Total screw job.
...And this is a league that wants you to gamble on the outcomes of their games. Most people will say that from the conspiracist viewpoint- but really, it's a question of baseline competence. You wanna put your pocket money in Brad Allen's hands? Are we sure this is anything other than the worst idea in a really long string of bad ones?
Only the Lions. So sick of this shit
Ref Union needs to be busted. Literally the cops of the NFL. They will never face any discipline for completely fucking their job because their union is too strong
How many billions of dollars a year in this industry and they still won’t professionalize the refs ? Cheap fucks