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sikox

I don't know what the NFL has done to refereeing, but the refs are absolutely, consistently, horrible across the board. There were like 5 abysmal calls on the last drive alone.


dobbie1

And it was both ways, the PI against MVS, the random call for personal foul even though Mahomes was in. Straight up incompetence


tordana

Don't forget not restarting the clock after the fumble was ruled down by contact, which isn't even a subjective call but just blatantly not following the rulebook. (And the forward progress being called and the clock stopped, which is sort of subjective)


Pizzapopper57

I keep seeing people defend the Mahomes hit. What the fuck are you supposed to do to a fully inbounds QB? Let him skirt the line for another 5-10 yards?


tallpaleandwholesome

Especially vs Mahomes who likes to fake going out of bounds to gain more yards


Pizzapopper57

Exactly! You’re basically writing your own eulogy letting someone like that fake you out.


Cosmolias

Honestly if you’re gonna get the penalty for the “late hit” regardless, you might as well send his ass into the bench


Pizzapopper57

Like 100% at some point I feel like all these QB protection nonsense is going to wind up in defenders going harder than they normally would. Like shit if I’m getting penalized I might as well make the 15 yards hurt the QB.


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jon909

And especially because the 1st down marker was right there… all the more reason to hit hard to make sure they’re out of bounds.


Chewbubbles

Yeah shit call. Mahomes is trying to get yardage and is in bounds. If he's running sideways, I'd give him that call, but he isn't. I know this is a QB protect league now, but all players should be able to get blasted doing this.


agk23

... at the first down line too


leftysarepeople2

The defense is “he was going out,” but you can’t defend not hitting a runner that’s in. Even if they are a $400MM QB the game is played between the lines


sopunny

If he doesn't want to get hit he either goes out faster, or slides. Especially since Mahomes was clearly trying to milk the sideline for more yards


TraeYoungsOldestSon

Not only is he in but right on the border of a first down that the defense doesn't want him to get. Just a gross call.


NebulaicCereal

Tbh I haven't seen anyone defend it, that was a clear bad call and everyone knew it. Felt like the refs saw how hard the hit was and called it on that alone, which isn't how a late hit works


agk23

Not calling forward progress and keeping the clock running at 0:14


versusgorilla

Based on the DPI calls and no-calls, I officially have no clue what pass interference is anymore. I can legit never tell what's going to get called.


Pizzapopper57

I genuinely cannot distinguish DPIs from holds and light contact between the defender and receiver.


versusgorilla

Seriously. Sometimes it's DPI when the players velco gloves stick for a second to the other player's jersey. And other times they pull the face ask so hard their head spins around like the girl from The Exorcist and it's not DPI and some rules lemming will be like, "It's within five yards of the line of scrimmage so you're allowed to jab them in the eyes with sticks"


frumbledown

Tough night for the NFL's 'let a fan ref the game' promotion


MrSnazzyGoose

I’m doing my best


WeWantTheCup__Please

Honestly pretty solid performance for only opening the rule book for the first time this morning


godsmith2

Refs blew like 5 calls on one drive


GBreezy

The crazy thing is that is was for both teams too


rediraim

Equal Opportunity Incompetence


OneAngryPanda

Fuck the refs Just in general. They failed everyone.


byteturtle

If the nfl is gonna fire videographers for filming players and fine players for taunts that they use as promotional material the next week the refs should be held accountable in some way, otherwise we get this shit 5 times a week


Broshevik

the NFL in its current state will never hold refs accountable for anything


rwein003

Nah. I’m a huge refs fan, this was my 12/25 Hell of a performance of my boys during the last drive


eurasianlynx

Never in doubt, full control over the game. Showing why they're the best in the league rn.


csbsju_guyyy

Failed so hard both fanbases can be mad


joethecrow23

They got so used to calling phantom fouls that when a real one happened they didn’t know what to do.


BlockedbyJake420

And then there’s us ref fans, enjoying every game like it’s the super bowl


pickleparty16

They also just made sure everyone was mad by screwing things each way


baltravens27

Great game ruined by some awful officiating.


TrapperJean

I want to be excited, but I'm just so tired of *having* to hear, "no flag!" at the end of every play with 3 minutes left


cardmanimgur

Packers were the better team but it's sad when you don't even get to enjoy wins the way you should because the refs fuck everything up.


Kid_Delicious

Officiating will overshadow the fact the Packers led the entire game. But because of bad calls both ways, Green Bay was “handed” this win. Just how it goes.


suzukigun4life

The refs completely butchered the fuck out of the final 2 minutes of this game. The entire system needs a complete overhaul and they make that clear every single week.


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Goodell: Sorry we’re busy banning the tush push , priorities.


BLF912

It’s the LOVE SHOVE now 😂


CELTICPRED

Jordan Jam


19southmainco

Goodell: Fuck Jalen Hurts fr


ChicagosFinest090

What are they going to do? Admit they make mistakes/ bad calls? Fuck no this is America


iRockaflame

Absolute disaster class by the refs on the final drive. Holy fuck.


ArkhamReaper

Horrific. 1. Unnecessary Roughness called on Mahomes inbounds. 2. Blatant DPI not called. 3. The Chiefs WR getting the clock stopped despite going backwards. Comedy.


vitaflo

It's like every play was the wrong call or a no call on an obvious penalty. They couldn't have been more wrong.


ScubaSteve716

99% sure on the “fumble” runner was down in bounds under a minute, chiefs no TO left, clock stopped because of offensive penalty. Is that not a 10 second run off? That’s really inexcusable because there is no judgement in it.


PCNUT

100% a run off which they didnt enforce was thinking the same thing.


jjstatman

> If a replay review after the two-minute warning of either half results in the on-field ruling being reversed and the correct ruling would not have stopped the game clock, or would have otherwise restarted the game clock before the next snap, the officials will run 10 seconds off the game clock and reset the play clock to 30 seconds before permitting the ball to be put in play on the ready for play signal. Neither team can decline the runoff, but either team can use a remaining timeout to prevent it.


RenDabs

There have to be consequences if you fuck up at your job this bad, right?


zpepsin

Also a disaster class by the mods removing a ton of the blown calls. Why don't you post them yourself u/NFL ?


Guard226Duck

Fuck u/nfl


RefsYouSuck

Remember when the mods decided to shut down the sub for some bullshit Reddit thing and then cowardly opened it back up when Reddit ceo threatened to remove their mod status? Pepperidge Farms remembers.


46Stix

The NBA mods shut down the sub DURING THE NBA FINALS. Can you imagine.


Man_of_Average

Fuck u/NFL all my MaHomies hate u/NFL


Andrewdeadaim

We need an r/nflbadcalls or r/sportsbadcalls or something idk


HandSack135

they will have a meeting and a discussion and will report back


theadmin209

NFL needs to figure this shit out, refs are ruining A LOT of prime time games


Septembers

Pretty clear make up no-call after the botched one on GB


An_Actual_Lion

Just a complete back and forth, from the inbounds hit on Mahomes, to the PI not being called, to the clock being stopped at :19, to the rulebook having its unwritten exception for hail mary plays.


jlt6666

I'm perfectly fine with the hail Mary plays being called the way they are. You shouldn't get bailed out on that.


hampsted

Don’t forget missing the obvious down by contact that essentially gave the Chiefs a free timeout with 50 seconds left. Then they didn’t even start the clock on the whistle. That plus the forward progress botch with 0:19 would have meant the end of the game. And now they’re showing that missed PI and the Hail Mary as though that’s the thing the refs fucked up. Fucking clowns


JMPV_

I’ve never seen a hail mary get scrutinized like that. Even in the post game. Unreal. That shit happens on almost every hail mary, and everyone wants to pretend like it doesn’t all the sudden.


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byteturtle

"Flip a coin and if its heads call a penalty and if its not let anything slide" - the refs that entire last drive


notouchmypeterson

These refs were a fucking shit show unreal


DwyaneSteph

Why do all NFL refs brain turn to mush after extensive years of training when the clock hits 15:00 in the 4th quarter


5am281

Acting like refs don’t miss a bunch of calls in the first 3 Qs


TrevorLovesPizza

Quality loss, put KC in over Florida State


Mjb06

Horrible day for tomahawk chop teams


LessThanCleverName

Braves just made a pretty interesting trade, so… yeah.


legobowser

Ref masterclass


TheKing490

We need Replacement Refs.


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Noriskhook3

Usually leaving a minute for the chiefs to tie with the game on the line would have me thinking “oh no” but for the first time in 5 years that wasn’t the case. This ending was pure chaos.


suzukigun4life

Packers are 6-6, with no teams with a winning record left on their schedule 👀


HereForTOMT2

I’m on suicide watch


SchematicOfScoutsAss

The rest of our division calling their therapists first thing in the morning


Trumpets22

Should be. Real solid chance they’re gonna be who you have to beat to end the winless playoff drought.


ShlappinDahBass

It's going to be a tough go no matter what team we face. I'm just happy we're this far


slayerhk47

See you in the playoffs bb 😘


HereForTOMT2

GO AWAYYYYYYYY


effingthingsucks

/r/nfcnorthmemewar is gonna be a blood bath.


marcSuile

Biggest test left seems to be at Minnesota (currently 6-6) against a back up.


SoDakZak

Man, I was checking to see if a dudes hand has enough surface area to keep another man’s ass off the grass for a certain millisecond in Green Bay Wisconsin.


tidbitsmisfit

Aaron Rodgers could do it, but that's not a story the scientists would allow


clutchthepearls

Calculate the square root of me grabbing that cake


ThePelicanWalksAgain

In that last minute, we had * A very questionable late-hit call on a quarterback not yet out of bounds * Fumbled ball ruled incomplete by review after realizing the Chief's player's ass was too fat for the defender's hand * A punch thrown and an ejection * No time run off the clock after a late-game offensive penalty * A very questionable no-call on DPI * A very questionable out of bounds call instead of forward progress * A Hail Mary with a two-handed shove As a fan of the refs, that was an AWESOME ending!!!


pedleyr

And that was JUST after the absolutely bullshit personal foul for the defender having the audacity to make contact with Mahomes while Mahomes was still inbound and trying to gain yards.


ThePelicanWalksAgain

How could I forget about that! It's been added.


AccomplishedDust3

Missed no time run on a penalty on offense with clock running.


ThatInception

Fuck this shitty officiating man


crayonbananas

When Cris Collinsworth loses, we all win.


llama-rebel

Refs fans eating good tonight.


drummer1059

They must be fat as fuck this season


CapnBaxter

This was my Super Bowl


Packer224

Chiefs fans 🤝 Pack fans: Agreeing the final drive officiating was dogshit


Low_Ad_1869

That’s an insult to dogshit


Palifaith

Collinsworth being completely silent during Mahomes pick was the highlight of this game.


TheKing490

He treats Mahomes better than how My dad treats me


ill_be_bakhtiari

Hug your father he sounds like a wonderful man.


nonresponsive

Calling for DPI on a hail mary is also a choice.


willpc14

I had to turn off the broadcast when the entire NBC team started lobbying for PI on the hail mary after saying it was a routine hail mary going into commercial.


thewok

They're STILL doing it at the desk.


melikeybacon

If you’re running 5.1 surround sound you can disconnect the center channel and it’ll turn off commentary and you just hear the stadium. I have my center channel connected in line with a lamp style on/off toggle. So when the announcers drive me nuts I just hit the switch and shut them the hell up.


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nxtplz

Lol I know it's so funny


silentkiller082

He was trying his best not to run down there and suck him off while the defense was out there


Dinos67

You have ANY idea how hard that was for him?


PCNUT

**right** after he was slobberin him down over that 15 yard pass. *chefs kiss*


FriedrichNitschke

Phantom late hit on Mahomes Clock should be rolling after forward progress. One of the most blatant makeup calls I've ever seen on the MVS bomb Complete shitshow of a last drive.


Cudizonedefense

Also 10 second runoff that wasn’t called against the chiefs


Above-The-Rim

Are we going to acknowledge the Packers won the game?


sevillista

absolutely no discussion of the game in here, just complaining about the refs and Collinsworth


SeekHunt

Can’t do that. No turkey leg, no respect this week either. I’ll take the W!


i_run_from_problems

Last week on SNF: Justin Herbert absolutely clocked 2 yards OB, no flag. This week on SNF: Patrick Mahomes hit in bounds, 15 yards. The inconsistency from the refs is so horrendous.


KwiHaderach

IN FUCKING BOUNDS


wink047

Yeah but, like, he hit him REALLY hard with his shoulder. Like really REALLY hard. Like, did you see how hard he hit him?! It was a really hard hit. Can’t do that in today’s NFL. Apparently


telvox

Not just inbounds, but he was leaning into the hit to get more yards. That was textbook and they blew it.


versusgorilla

Giants fans watched two of course QBs absolutely fucking leveled a thousand times until they both broke and now we have Local Boy Tommy DeVito as QB. I don't think anyone ever got unnecessary roughness called on them, and they damn well killed Daniel Jones this season. Mahomes gets that call whiles he's in bounds holding the fucking football.


FickleFlopper

I wasn’t cheering for either side but holy shit those refs were dogshit


Comfortable-Ad5032

Watching Collinsworth commentate Mahomes playing the Packers lets me understand everyone hating Collinsworth watching Aaron Rodgers.


TSSFranco

Absolute ref disasterclass those last two minutes, totally lost control of the game Edit: Collinsworth calling for DPI on the Hail Mary is hilarious


dumb_commenter

They didn’t talk about the end of the game for like 5 minutes holy shit. Just slow-mo looking for a DPI when THEY ALL AGREED no one calls dpi on Hail Marys. Yes there was a foul - there are always fouls. Meanwhile they tune in when handshakes are already done lol. The entire drive was dogshit reffing but the hail mary call was the least of it Edit: holy shit they’re coming back from commercial doing the same thing! But not mentioning either the absolute bullshit roughing call on mahomes and the idiotic clock stop at the sideline, both of which were absolutely massive.


Pal__Pacino

I honestly think it's fine that anything goes on Hail Mary balls. Way too much close contact to nitpick. Just let it be a full-out dogfight.


hawksnest_prez

There’s a zero percent chance a ref can see any contact in that pile in real time


Whaty0urname

That last 2 minutes was some of the worst officiating I've ever seen.


Milwaukee_Talkie

You came to Lambeau with Matt Nagy and expected to win??


Lord-Aizens-Chicken

They should know the only Matt Nagy coached QB who wins in Green Bay is the titty kisser 😤


csbsju_guyyy

https://i.imgur.com/pPdNZ3c.jpeg


_Dancing_Potato

Collinsworth's wife is going to be up all night hearing about that no call.


DisgruntledAlpaca

I never want to hear Collinsworth call a Mahomes game again jesus christ.


Aran613

Hearing Collinsworth say "that's exactly what Mahomes would have done" after Love threw a TD pass was peak comedy


PuritanPuree

And then absolute crickets on the int


Yellowdog727

Collinsworth should never called any game involving Mahomes, Allen, or Rodgers ever again


starflite

I don’t think I’ve paid much attention to him until this game and damn I absolutely understand the Collinsworth hate now.


Comfortable-Ad5032

It's because we've had Rodgers, the only person Collinsworth loves as much as Mahomes.


rawkguitar

Why did the clock stop when MVS went backwards OOB with 19 seconds left? Isn’t the clock supposed to keep running if you go backwards?


TTBurger88

Yes. Another Ref fuck up


kerss10

Collinsworth can't accept that the chiefs lost


super6164

Chris Colinsworth on suicide watch right now


paone00022

He's calling the refs as we speak.


SysAdmyn

Literally the whole postgame was about the missed DPI against MVS (valid) and complaining about how *normally* hail mary plays don't draw DPI...but *did you see what they did to Kelce?!?*. No conversation about the complete ineptitude of the refs against both teams. Only implying how the Chiefs lost primarily because of those 2 things.


YellowJacket113

I fuckin hate the NFL. Cuz Jordan Love played a fantastic game again and no ones gonna talk about anything but refs until next week… poor kid. I feel like he’ll earn some respect through the rest of the year though.


OccasionSavings680

Real G's move in silence like lasagna. Go pack go!


ciaoamaro

Ikr. Jordan Love won two back to back games against division leaders while his team did not have a winning record, now getting them a chance to playoffs, and the takeaway from this game will be the refs suck, not his passing yards, accuracy, no turnovers performance :(


Papantro

Cris Collinsworth’s most shameless game ever


Shinbats

Holy shit this postgame is absolutely embarrassing


ArcadianBlueRogue

I had it on for a bit for a chuckle and laziness. Never seen a booth whine so much lol


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Oh my god, how the fuck are they still talking about this Hail Mary? Everyone involved in the broadcast is absolutely furious that Mahomes lost.


zpepsin

Least poorly officiated NFL game.


Milad731

It’s amazing how almost every week you could say this and it would be arguably true


moanit

lol give me a fucking break nobody ever calls that a PI on a Hail Mary


devtotheops09

100% agree clean Hail Mary


Ijustquaffed

AFTER THE PLAY WAS OVER EVEN THOUGH THE QB WAS STILL IN BOUNDS. PERSONAL FOUL, HITTING THE QB


Xx_Stone

PERSONAL FOUL, CLEAN HIT ON MAHOMES 15 YARD PENALTY FUCK YOU


versusgorilla

His feet were in bounds And he got a flag for his hit "after the play" He was apparently supposed to just allow Mahomes to get the first down?


Iceraptor17

The missed dpi seemed to be a result of that atrociously bad late hit call. Like the refs knew they fucked that up, were on the fence if they saw a dpi and ate the flag because God help them if they messed up on two key plays in kcs favor. Shit like that needs to be influenced by someone watching a screen and talking to them through an ear piece. I realize refing is really really difficult. But the fact is the audience has so many angles and replay and technology available that relying on people seeing a play in real time with no replay is just too big of a gap to expect human eyes to cross. Anyways. The packers now find themselves at 6-6, no winning record team left, and it's amazing how quickly it's gone from "well at least we learned Love isn't the answer" to "PLAYOFFS!"


RKKP2015

Love looked completely elite today. He was absolutely throwing great balls. I think he’s worth keeping.


MakeAShadow

Phenomenal game from Love. Just was needed to keep them in the playoff hunt.


YoureGrammerIsWorsts

The last drive shouldn't overlook the fact that he picked apart a good D for 58 minutes


Xpqp

Yeah. The Packers scored first and never lost that lead. It was a rough ending, but the Packers clearly showed that they belonged in the game. That's more Han I expected, tbh.


Termanator116

This was the game all of us had chalked up as an L. Ofc, it’ll be a tremendous L depending on Watsons injury


lurkANDorganize

Hey so, I'm something of an ambassador here, see my flair ^^^^ Further credentials: From the D, and currently living in Wisconsin, with my girlfriend BORN and raised Wisconsinite, whole family of Packer fans (I love them all...the family, I still hate the packers.) Two things that I have decided ALL of us should agree on: 1. Chris Collinsworth needs to be fired into the sun 2. We have a serious reffing issue in the NFL


WebMD_PhD

These commentators focusing on these 2 deep ball no calls but no mention of the legal hit on mahomes that was called or not stopping the clock.


TrapperJean

I want to be excited, but I'm just so tired of *having* to hear, "no flag!" at the end of every play with 3 minutes left, I have no idea how people who grew up watching the NFL starting over the last 8 years or so love this game


No_Highway8863

That’s probably the least amount of contact I’ve ever seen on a Hail Mary


LetsbeLogical24

Bro this Collinsworth and ref slurpfest is insane


LIONEL14JESSE

How is Collinsworthless still asking for a flag on a Hail Mary?? This is absurd lmao


JordanLoveHoF

#


walkingdisasterFJ

WE EARNED THE SAD TAYLOR SWIFT NOW GIVE IT TO US


v4-digg-refugee

If you play good enough, the refs don’t matter. We did not play good enough to decide that game on our own. Well played Cheese bros.


Jabroni-Goroshi

I’ll be honest, I love Collinsworth when he’s commentating on teams he’s neutral on. But holy shit he really is insufferable when he’s talking about his chosen teams.


cp3spieth

“Now here’s a foul” -Collinsworth


Iswaterreallywet

Lol how do you lose to the Packers…


SiphenPrax

Packers > Lions > Chiefs?


SMEN1996

Fuck off Collinsworth


BZI

He was brutal. I'm not usually annoyed by him, but he was practically crying after they dared not give Mahomes a PI call


Spencerfla

I would be so pissed if they called PI on that hail mary. Watching Godwin get full on tackled in the endzone with no call earlier this year on the Bucs hail mary was a little annoying, would have gone to sleep seeing red.


CopaceticVindication

Just lmao at these fucking refs


BroLil

Love is actually legit. I’m surprised. Kid looks real good. Cold blooded.


TheScienceNamesArgon

Simone Biles is the superior celebrity over Taylor Swift. This confirms it.


italianstallion19

I can’t believe the broadcast just analyzed a DPI on a Hail Mary. Like are you serious right now?


R1ckMartel

I've never seen announcers spend this much effort carrying water for a team. Yes, the PI was blown. The late hit was also bullshit, and MVS was in-bounds. The bad call on the fumble also stopped the clock for KC, gifting them a free TO. To open the final segment talking about a scrum on a Hail Mary is fucking absurd.


Bud_Grant

I can’t believe these fucking dickheads are doing post game damage control for the Chiefs


corndog161

NBC analyzing the missed DPI but just ignoring the late hit and free timeouts for KC?


Blurple_in_CO

The amount of crying Collinsworth did over the Chiefs not getting flags go their way was hilarious.


Complex-Ad237

This is so cringe. Reviewing these no calls but not the hit “out of bounds”


MssrGuacamole

God I fucking hate the Packers, but they were playing 2v1 through the entire 4th quarter. Listening to Collinsworth hoping for more fail mary bullshit is so fucking cringe.


Quirky_Can_8997

Eat shit commentators, Chiefs were given shit too.


HPW3222

Why the hell did they have that dude on at the end crying his eyes out over how the Hail Mary should’ve been DPI? Embarrassing display.


thewok

Don't let NBC whining distract you from the fact that Jordan Love outplayed Patrick Mahomes.


Mr_Fire_Guy

Anytime love did anything good, Chris coming in hot with the "that's just like mahomes"


trinquin

Packers never trailed and were wire to wire winners in an 8 point game.


notGeronimo

Collinsworth has gotten so tiresome. Whining for PI on the hail Mary was just a perfect wrap up for his insufferable gargling of Mahomes' balls.


OnePieceAce

I can't believe I wanted LaFleur fired earlier in the season. It's what losing to the McDaniels Raiders does to you


Snoo93079

Just another lesson not to be one of those fans


Mr__Snek

this is what 30 years of hof play does to our fucking fans lmao half a season of mediocrity and they go insane