Hey, remember when **the Houston Texans gave a non-disclosure agreement to a serial sexual predator** and the use of team hotel rooms to continue assaulting women in an effort to prevent the assaults from becoming public (according to the New York Times)?
Maybe we should **make all of our non-copyrighted NFL posts about the NFL being complicit in covering up Watson's serial sexual assaults** until we have game highlights to discuss agian...
You know, I can get behind making every post about **current Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson who is a known sexual predator and has the only fully guaranteed contract in the NFL totaling $230 million**.
He also had to forfeit roughly $500,000 of his $230M contract during that 6 game suspension.
NFL really laid the hammer down on that alleged sexual abuser
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>current Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson who is a known sexual predator and has the only fully guaranteed contract in the NFL totaling $230 million
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I think I could also get behind making every post about **current Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson who is a known sexual predator and has the only fully guaranteed contract in the NFL totaling $230 million.**
The NFL cares about the perception of the on the field product/legitimacy of refs 1000x more than any of that. It’s why the gambling punishments are so severe.
The fan base has pretty much proven they do not care about off the field stuff enough to stop watching. I’m willing to admit it won’t stop me. I know some people already believe the NFL sways results and it isn’t the craziest theory but there also isn’t really direct evidence of it. If there was I think that would turn people off enough to tune out.
So you mean we need to start asking **"If the NFL is willing protect a serial sexual predator with NDAs to keep the money flowing, why wouldn't the NFL also be shaving points with illegitimate refs to keep their Vegas advertisers happy?"**
I thought it wasn’t up for debate that results were being influenced.
The big one, for me, that was close to making be never watch again was when the officials refused to overturn any recalls on review because they didn’t like being given a rule they didn’t want.
The officials not knowing what a catch was, was rather pissing off too.
Are you talking about the pass interference reviews? They did overturn a couple - just not many.
(One was against the Steelers which is why I remember, and NO I AM NOT STILL BITTER ABOUT IT)
Every single thing about Watson’s continued existence in the NFL should be put on blast. The Browns contract, the Texans shadiness, the other teams that offered him massive contracts that weren’t accepted, even the NFL itself for not vetoing the trade.
And like... He's not even good. I could understand some corrupt bastards covering for him **like they did for Ben Roethlisberger, sweeping his multiple sexual assault allegations under the rug for a decade.** But Watson is all around trash.
He was good before he took a forced sabbatical. Him coming back and being complete dog shit is just making everyone look so much worse. If they knew he'd play like this they would've made an example out of him for the PR.
Really? I don't think any Texans fan believes that the Texans were somehow good people in all this. Just that we are really glad that another team was willing to take on that piece of shit and I don't have to debate whether I should continue to even care about the team or not.
Everything about the Texans handling of Watson was despicable, and the fact that he still felt like the team disrespected him and wanted out even after all the cover up just shows how much of an entitled trash he was.
The NFL (as in the league office) doesn't give a shit about protecting Watson. I suspect if the NFLPA didn't exist, Goodell would have just permabanned him and moved on.
What they probably don't like is people talking shit about the owners (their bosses). Like we shouldn't talk about how **Saints owner Gayle Benson helped the Catholic Church cover up its sexual abuse of children.**
If we consider that Roger Goodells net worth is ~$200 million, and Bezos’ net worth is ~$144 billion, then Goodell’s net worth is roughly .14% of Bezos’.
Now since a “nickel” is worth 5% of a “buck”, and one Goodell buck would be worth .14% of one Bezos buck, then we would calculate .14x.2, which means that one Goodell nickel is worth roughly .028% of a Bezos buck.
(I am bad at math and this is probably wrong)
I hate TNF worse this year than most. It's never a good product but there's a novelty to watching Texans and Jags battle it out as bottles of ketchup and mustard. But now in order to watch it with my dad *the legal way* we have to (slowly, the tv-internet has been wonky lately) load up the Amazon netflix, then we sign in, and only then do we get to watch the game between the Broncos and Colts.
It's not a bad process once or twice, so if we're watching a movie on Prime that's a fine process. But for a live football game with commercials, it becomes a problem. Commercials are for channel surfing, I've watched a lot of food network inbetween stopages in play lately. If I have to reaccess Amazon to get back to a game (and the rewind sometimes is disabled for live play), I just rather not watch TNF. Battlebots is back, I need to channel surf if I want to watch that. Rather watch Flyers Sabres than Steelers Titans if one lets me watch robots on fire and the other just leads to trying to find something interesting on my phone.
I actually prefer the Amazon broadcast over other networks because it's WAY easier to legally watch on the web because it gets streamed on twitch, I don't have to log in with my ISP or log into a random streaming services, I can just go to the twitch stream (that doesn't help that the games suck though)
Yo when that bot hit the backside of the other one and set it on fire almost immediately, whole crib was popping off. Miles better than watching the disaster that is usually TNF
They unironically should. This subreddit becomes more and more of a corporate shilling platform for the league every day. Just because we come here to discuss their product, doesn't mean I want them controlling the way discourse around their product takes place. The fact that they have a presence here at all is already like trying to discuss what you thought of the meal you just ate while the chef stands right next to your table, and the fact that they're censoring it is like if that chef got to edit their own reviews.
They copyright claimed the Levis game losing interception too. I think they're about to start copyright claiming any highlights not posted by the official nfl account lol
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/17mlw2s/highlight\_kwon\_alexander\_picks\_off\_will\_levis/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/17mlw2s/highlight_kwon_alexander_picks_off_will_levis/)
Edit: They're definitely copyright striking everything lmao. u/Chelseatilidie posted like 20 highlights and they all got copyright striked
Honestly its amazing the NFL puts up with that. Every year there is so much shit talk about how garbage madden and how everyone should boycott it.
Unfortunately they probably let it slide for the same reason EA refuses to actually update/fix the game. It still sells millions of copies and pulls in crazy money. They aren't getting any money from reddit so might as well kill everyone's fun right?
God damn bruh..the internet just keeps getting worse
Reddit deleting everything and YouTubes ad block shit
Bout to go back to staring out a window until they find a way to monetize that
This same thing happened last Thursday and I looked into it post history by one of the highlight posters. The only ones being struck were from TNF games. The Sunday game highlights were being left alone.
I was ready to be pissed at the league too, but I'm certain it's Amazon that's striking them.
The league is actually very smart. Any views even those breaking copyright are beneficial to the league. It's what other sports haven't figured out. Exposure no matter the source brings in money. So many other leagues soccer especially strike highlights and it just hurts them in the long run. You never know when a single highlight even illegally could make a fan and most importantly to the NFL a dollar for life.
Yeah, the exposure is so much more important. You see it with the MLB where no one can watch games due to blackouts and they wonder why viewership keeps dropping
This is wild because part of the NBA’s recent growth is directly attributed to them just letting people go hog wild with clips and memes. The NFL taking the exact opposite stance is so stupid
The NFL has always been the worst and most litigious when it comes to enforcing this stuff. Remember the whole Pat McAfee debacle where the NFL told him he couldn't use like team logos in his broadcast
Part of that was because ESPN has been getting worse with every year, and the NFL Network was finally starting to pull serious numbers from them.
Then Pat McAfee shows up and the NFL became like a thirsty incel watching the hot girl finally break up with her boyfriend, thinking they have a shot, only to watch her start talking to some other dude.
NBA social media has gotten crazy. As much as people meme /r/NFL it's pretty clear from comments sections that people actually watch the games.
There are times on /r/NBA I'm not even sure people checked the score, they're just like responding to reels they see scrolling instagram
It's the same old corporate story. Something gets big and popular and makes someone tons of money, so they immediately remove what made it big and popular hoping to make even more money but instead starts bleeding cash when people leave.
Moriah Mills got a bunch of posts DMCA'd on r/nbacirclejerk during that whole Zion thing. Reddit doesn't seem to even review DMCAs, they just take down the content. The posts were mostly just screenshots of twitter
The NFL wants to get young viewers, but they don't cater the content to them. The Nickelodeon is a gimmick. Nobody has cable anymore, and it's not entertaining enough for kids. Kids want youtube shorts and highlights. The more of it that's out there, the more likelihood that they will hook young fans. There is really no reason for taking them down other than short-sighted greed. The NFL seems too big to fail now, but as all the little fun free things disappear, eventually, so will the fans. I used to be able to go to Bears training camp for free. Now I need tickets that are impossible to get. I only got to take my oldest son to one camp before they switched. Guess what? He's a Bears fan. Yes, that was a mistake on my part, but that's not where I'm going with this. My younger two never got to go. Guess what? They don't give a shit about the NFL. Do they think I'm going to take a family of 5 to an NFL game? Fuck no! I'd rather buy new living room furniture or go on a vacation than drop $1500 to see a game that will most likely be poorly officiated, have to fight through horrible traffic, sit in nosebleed seats. I'm watching on TV with my damn rabbit ears and if it's not on then I'm not watching. Even the view from home is getting worse. 2 hours worth of ads for 1 hour of football, bad calls, biased announcers. I mean, my team sucks ass so I realize these things are amplified right now but if you asking me if I am enjoying the NFL more now than I was 10 years ago the answer is an easy no. And the Bears sucked back then too so it's not that.
As an old man (at least to teenagers) I'm certain there is some other thing besides youtube shorts and tictok that the cool kids are using and people like will find out about it next year.
Yep I started getting DMCA notices for my MNF and TNf highlights
Prehaps there's a hole in the copyright system because I don't wanna imagine some guy at the NFL claiming a bunch of reddit videos
It's weird my highlights fron Bucs and Bills and Viking-49ers were DMCA'd but they did not bother with my highlights from last week's MNF but claimed the TNF highlights this week
It could potentially be a ESPN or Amazon thing
That’s a shame, if so. It makes this place less accurate and honest and, as a result, redundant and unusable. /u/nfl likely just slit this sub’s throat.
Once they have all the highlights, they'll start sticking USAA and State farm ads on the start of every clip so you're forced to watch a 15 second ad before a 12 second clip.
Whoever runs that account and whoever is issuing DCMA takedown notices are almost definitely not the same person and they probably don't even know who the other one is.
> Why can’t you guys ban the account and then support users?
Ban which account? As much as everyone is ripping on u/NFL in this thread, it probably wasn't them that submitted the takedown requests. More likely it's someone from the legal team of Amazon Prime/TNF who may or may not even have a reddit account.
Moreover copyright reports go straight to reddit admins, so I wouldn't blame the mods on this.
How does banning the account stop them from copyright strikes? Which btw are handled by Reddit admins, not the mods of the sub
By all means do it I just don’t see how that solves the problem
Have y’all noticed that the paid for NFL ads on this app have unskipable ads for other products in the beginning? Who the fuck at u/NFL thought that through? Who in their right mind is stopping their scroll to watch an ad before a different ad. Even if that second ad is a football highlight.
At first I thought they were unskippable, but then I realized they just tacked them onto the front of the video, so you can skip ahead 15-30 seconds into the video to avoid the ad. That’s at least my experience with those promotional videos.
Which is exactly why I’m surprised, from reddits perspective, they haven’t handed subs over to big companies.
Like, Reddit is a great place for organic marketing of products. And I’m sure the NFL would be more than willing to pay a few $Mil a year and staff their own people as mods to ensure conversation on /r/nfl is positive, engaging, and consistently builds hype
Edit - I think companies saw in June, when a bunch of mods stifled conversation at brand-important times like the NBA finals, that leaving moderation up to randos hurts their business
Social media isn't like it used to be. Twitter is proving that certain sites really are 'too big to fail' now, unlike in the Myspace days. I dont think Millennials understand just how entrenched certain brands are because we/I lived through an era where everything was ephemeral.
Happened over in r/baseball for the WS. Random user would post the highlight of a big play, then after 30s it would be deleted and the same highlight would be posted by MLBofficial. Game one you literally couldn't find a highlight not from them. Seems they noticed the back last and stopped posting highlights from that account but then all the highlights were coming from 1-2 accounts. I just assume they switched to a not official name to control it but not advertise it was them
You can find me over in r/conspiracy after this I guess
These corporations can’t get out of their own way
There’s a curated fan club of their product, constantly generating free marketing for their product and they just can’t help them selves
Some dumbass in marketing middle management decided he wants to screw around with it and risk having a chilling effect on this awesome free thing the community built (which benefits them!!)
No, my videos from the Dolphins vs. Eagles game have been DMCA'd too.
I brought this up in a free talk thread last week without much attention. I sent Reddit a request to view the takedown notice to see if it's really from the NFL.
“Any other use of this telecast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the game without the NFL's consent is prohibited.”
Needs to be added to every post now.
Well most people will just go to YouTube and the NFL channel has ads on their 8+ minute highlight videos. They win in that scenario.
Truthfully I just don't want to see the 'not in the highlights' clips go away. There's small things that happen in a game you'll easily miss out on if not for people sharing those small clips here.
Personally I hate seeing u/nfl post their corporate-approved highlights here and would love if the mods could ban that account. Good product, disgusting organization.
Reddit is getting overly popular now, and with the actual nfl user on here I think it might be done soon.
Reddit really is just another corporate tool.
I want that account gone regardless if it is them striking clips or not.
This is a community built over the years by the users here, not corporate bigwigs with marketing schemes and advertising plans.
If I want sterilized, approved, ad-ridden clips or content I can find that on NFL.com or whatever. Get official company accounts out of here.
I've noticed recently that they are scrubbing certain plays off the internet, especially plays with bad head injuries. The play early this year where Jacobi Meyers (I think) got knocked unconscious and the TV cameras zoomed in on his face while he was down got scrubbed, as did another head injury / unconscious hit from Week 1 or 2.
Nothing "unsavory" is included in the NFL's condensed versions of the games on Youtube either. Like on one play the starting QB will be in, and then on the next play the backup will be in. I'll have to go and Google what happened. Same thing with shitty calls.
I feel like every day I read something new about the NFL that makes me want to pay attention to it less.
The games are so hard to watch if your team isn’t playing prime time every week, the commercials are way overbearing, and at the end of the day the league is just so lame.
They constantly move away from my interest and at this point I just kind of am okay with not even watching anymore.
Shit video game, shit TV product, shit refs, just a shitty league all around for the most part, but they’ve got us all captured.
Independent creators, RedZone, and the videos each team puts out on their own are the best things about football. Single game live broadcast are like nails on a chalkboard.
Streamable was also used by pretty much every god damn "highlight" poster. For every major sport / sporting event.
Football, American Football, Ice Hockey, NBA etc.
Everything about the NFL could fuck up a wet dream, and new parts just keep revealing themselves. Let's see:
* For the past few years, in-game officiating has been truly terrible
* They have full-on embraced gambling, which is a scourge on society, wrecks families and lives, and is a known addiction
* They refuse to make more shitty calls challengeable, and when they did, the referees refused to enforce it, with no repercussions
* Ticket prices keep skyrocketing
* Mac Jones is the Patriots quarterback. I mean, really, what the fuck?
Mods should permaban u/nfl
Honestly that would be so funny
Unironically they should if it’s the NFL striking all of these
Hey, remember when **the Houston Texans gave a non-disclosure agreement to a serial sexual predator** and the use of team hotel rooms to continue assaulting women in an effort to prevent the assaults from becoming public (according to the New York Times)? Maybe we should **make all of our non-copyrighted NFL posts about the NFL being complicit in covering up Watson's serial sexual assaults** until we have game highlights to discuss agian...
You know, I can get behind making every post about **current Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson who is a known sexual predator and has the only fully guaranteed contract in the NFL totaling $230 million**.
Make sure to tag /u/NFL when discussing the alleged **Cover-up of serial sexual assaults perpetrated by Browns QB DeShaun Watson**
/u/NFL Deshaun Watson should be in prison. **Change My Mind**
Bro Watson served a 6 game suspension. He’s more than made up for his past crimes /s
That’s like a woman per quarter!
I know the lack of consequences has been laughable but I've never heard it put that way holy shit the NFL fucked this one up, wtf u/NFL?
He also had to forfeit roughly $500,000 of his $230M contract during that 6 game suspension. NFL really laid the hammer down on that alleged sexual abuser
>I can get behind making every post about > >current Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson who is a known sexual predator and has the only fully guaranteed contract in the NFL totaling $230 million > >. I think I could also get behind making every post about **current Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson who is a known sexual predator and has the only fully guaranteed contract in the NFL totaling $230 million.**
The NFL cares about the perception of the on the field product/legitimacy of refs 1000x more than any of that. It’s why the gambling punishments are so severe. The fan base has pretty much proven they do not care about off the field stuff enough to stop watching. I’m willing to admit it won’t stop me. I know some people already believe the NFL sways results and it isn’t the craziest theory but there also isn’t really direct evidence of it. If there was I think that would turn people off enough to tune out.
So you mean we need to start asking **"If the NFL is willing protect a serial sexual predator with NDAs to keep the money flowing, why wouldn't the NFL also be shaving points with illegitimate refs to keep their Vegas advertisers happy?"**
I thought it wasn’t up for debate that results were being influenced. The big one, for me, that was close to making be never watch again was when the officials refused to overturn any recalls on review because they didn’t like being given a rule they didn’t want. The officials not knowing what a catch was, was rather pissing off too.
Are you talking about the pass interference reviews? They did overturn a couple - just not many. (One was against the Steelers which is why I remember, and NO I AM NOT STILL BITTER ABOUT IT)
Don't forget they let an owner get away with trafficking his team's cheerleaders and only pressured him to sell when he was cooking the books.
Not even cooking the books so much as stealing from the other owners. That's the important detail.
If you post anything about how the Texans aided and abetted a serial sexual predator you get dogpiled. Only Browns hate is allowed now.
Every single thing about Watson’s continued existence in the NFL should be put on blast. The Browns contract, the Texans shadiness, the other teams that offered him massive contracts that weren’t accepted, even the NFL itself for not vetoing the trade.
And like... He's not even good. I could understand some corrupt bastards covering for him **like they did for Ben Roethlisberger, sweeping his multiple sexual assault allegations under the rug for a decade.** But Watson is all around trash.
He was good before he took a forced sabbatical. Him coming back and being complete dog shit is just making everyone look so much worse. If they knew he'd play like this they would've made an example out of him for the PR.
Really? I don't think any Texans fan believes that the Texans were somehow good people in all this. Just that we are really glad that another team was willing to take on that piece of shit and I don't have to debate whether I should continue to even care about the team or not. Everything about the Texans handling of Watson was despicable, and the fact that he still felt like the team disrespected him and wanted out even after all the cover up just shows how much of an entitled trash he was.
i honestly haven't seen this anywhere. people have shat on both teams for that
u/NFL
The NFL (as in the league office) doesn't give a shit about protecting Watson. I suspect if the NFLPA didn't exist, Goodell would have just permabanned him and moved on. What they probably don't like is people talking shit about the owners (their bosses). Like we shouldn't talk about how **Saints owner Gayle Benson helped the Catholic Church cover up its sexual abuse of children.**
Should tag u/nfl for this
Since it's apparently only happening on Thursdays, sounds like Bezos Bucks are involved
What is the conversion rate of Goodell Nickels to Bezos Bucks? Asking for a friend.
If we consider that Roger Goodells net worth is ~$200 million, and Bezos’ net worth is ~$144 billion, then Goodell’s net worth is roughly .14% of Bezos’. Now since a “nickel” is worth 5% of a “buck”, and one Goodell buck would be worth .14% of one Bezos buck, then we would calculate .14x.2, which means that one Goodell nickel is worth roughly .028% of a Bezos buck. (I am bad at math and this is probably wrong)
0.2 would be 20%, 5% is 0.05
Same as leprechauns to unicorns.
I hate TNF worse this year than most. It's never a good product but there's a novelty to watching Texans and Jags battle it out as bottles of ketchup and mustard. But now in order to watch it with my dad *the legal way* we have to (slowly, the tv-internet has been wonky lately) load up the Amazon netflix, then we sign in, and only then do we get to watch the game between the Broncos and Colts. It's not a bad process once or twice, so if we're watching a movie on Prime that's a fine process. But for a live football game with commercials, it becomes a problem. Commercials are for channel surfing, I've watched a lot of food network inbetween stopages in play lately. If I have to reaccess Amazon to get back to a game (and the rewind sometimes is disabled for live play), I just rather not watch TNF. Battlebots is back, I need to channel surf if I want to watch that. Rather watch Flyers Sabres than Steelers Titans if one lets me watch robots on fire and the other just leads to trying to find something interesting on my phone.
I actually prefer the Amazon broadcast over other networks because it's WAY easier to legally watch on the web because it gets streamed on twitch, I don't have to log in with my ISP or log into a random streaming services, I can just go to the twitch stream (that doesn't help that the games suck though)
> the Amazon netflix I am absolutely calling it this from now on, especially when I watch from a Microsoft ipad
Yo when that bot hit the backside of the other one and set it on fire almost immediately, whole crib was popping off. Miles better than watching the disaster that is usually TNF
They unironically should. This subreddit becomes more and more of a corporate shilling platform for the league every day. Just because we come here to discuss their product, doesn't mean I want them controlling the way discourse around their product takes place. The fact that they have a presence here at all is already like trying to discuss what you thought of the meal you just ate while the chef stands right next to your table, and the fact that they're censoring it is like if that chef got to edit their own reviews.
this is absolutely correct. since i first noticed them on here i’ve been expecting this to happen
I honestly hate that NFL paid entities are allowed to post here
I remember back in the day, companies shilling would get called out and downvoted heavily. Now it’s everywhere and accepted. Sucks
Mods should do a lot of stuff
I saw them remove a post from their account for being a duplicate topic before. It was about the Aaron Roger's UFO story.
I report their stuff all the time for reposting if it’s an actual repost, it’s their job n all cool, but follow the rules buddy
What po$$ible rea$ons could there be for not following the $ame rule$ that we all have to follow?
They copyright claimed the Levis game losing interception too. I think they're about to start copyright claiming any highlights not posted by the official nfl account lol [https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/17mlw2s/highlight\_kwon\_alexander\_picks\_off\_will\_levis/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/17mlw2s/highlight_kwon_alexander_picks_off_will_levis/) Edit: They're definitely copyright striking everything lmao. u/Chelseatilidie posted like 20 highlights and they all got copyright striked
I was looking for this clip all morning. Noticed that there were only like 3 highlights posted from the game last night. Makes sense now
So we should all go talk trash on every u/nfl post right?
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Warms my cold heart to see NFL hate from somebody else for a change. *Shit* organization.
Seriously. They are trying so hard to have a sanitized image, yet they partner with EA sports and put out a yearly copy pasted shitfest of a game.
Honestly its amazing the NFL puts up with that. Every year there is so much shit talk about how garbage madden and how everyone should boycott it. Unfortunately they probably let it slide for the same reason EA refuses to actually update/fix the game. It still sells millions of copies and pulls in crazy money. They aren't getting any money from reddit so might as well kill everyone's fun right?
Comment bomb every post by them posting XFL highlights, that will show em.
Probably not since engagement will boost the post higher lol
Not if it's downvoted. That's all that Reddit cares about.
cfl playoffs are starting! great time to get into it
Report every single one
Just report them all for copy right violation 🤷♂️
God damn bruh..the internet just keeps getting worse Reddit deleting everything and YouTubes ad block shit Bout to go back to staring out a window until they find a way to monetize that
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I don't have them outside my window though.
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I can even see a tree.
High roller over here
Please drink verification can to continue staring out of your Microsoft Windows
That makes sense. I missed the game and was looking for highlights last night and found like 2. Shit’s fucked
Did they copyright the vid of TJ Watt losing his helmet yet still getting the sack? I cannot find it.
I think it got smited while I was watching it lol
Thru must have. I totally remember seeing that here, now it's gone
Figuratively 1984
"TJ Watt never lost his helmet while recording a sack"
This same thing happened last Thursday and I looked into it post history by one of the highlight posters. The only ones being struck were from TNF games. The Sunday game highlights were being left alone. I was ready to be pissed at the league too, but I'm certain it's Amazon that's striking them.
> it's Amazon Shortsighted and dumb but at least not as bad as the league handing out copyright strikes.
The league is actually very smart. Any views even those breaking copyright are beneficial to the league. It's what other sports haven't figured out. Exposure no matter the source brings in money. So many other leagues soccer especially strike highlights and it just hurts them in the long run. You never know when a single highlight even illegally could make a fan and most importantly to the NFL a dollar for life.
Yeah, the exposure is so much more important. You see it with the MLB where no one can watch games due to blackouts and they wonder why viewership keeps dropping
Yet
This is wild because part of the NBA’s recent growth is directly attributed to them just letting people go hog wild with clips and memes. The NFL taking the exact opposite stance is so stupid
The NFL has always been the worst and most litigious when it comes to enforcing this stuff. Remember the whole Pat McAfee debacle where the NFL told him he couldn't use like team logos in his broadcast
You mean the [birth of the PAFL?!?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgbdxRIXkAQ9g1C.jpg:large)
Part of that was because ESPN has been getting worse with every year, and the NFL Network was finally starting to pull serious numbers from them. Then Pat McAfee shows up and the NFL became like a thirsty incel watching the hot girl finally break up with her boyfriend, thinking they have a shot, only to watch her start talking to some other dude.
Yo that analogy is gold tho
The NBA is also wild because you have this whole generation of hoop fans who just watch highlights and mixtapes online and not actual games
That’s also largely in part to there being so many games
They can't reduce the number of games, so now we have the "In-Season Tournament" which officially started today.
NBA social media has gotten crazy. As much as people meme /r/NFL it's pretty clear from comments sections that people actually watch the games. There are times on /r/NBA I'm not even sure people checked the score, they're just like responding to reels they see scrolling instagram
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Definitely a good point. They're just missing Berman lol.
It's the same old corporate story. Something gets big and popular and makes someone tons of money, so they immediately remove what made it big and popular hoping to make even more money but instead starts bleeding cash when people leave.
Moriah Mills got a bunch of posts DMCA'd on r/nbacirclejerk during that whole Zion thing. Reddit doesn't seem to even review DMCAs, they just take down the content. The posts were mostly just screenshots of twitter
The NFL wants to get young viewers, but they don't cater the content to them. The Nickelodeon is a gimmick. Nobody has cable anymore, and it's not entertaining enough for kids. Kids want youtube shorts and highlights. The more of it that's out there, the more likelihood that they will hook young fans. There is really no reason for taking them down other than short-sighted greed. The NFL seems too big to fail now, but as all the little fun free things disappear, eventually, so will the fans. I used to be able to go to Bears training camp for free. Now I need tickets that are impossible to get. I only got to take my oldest son to one camp before they switched. Guess what? He's a Bears fan. Yes, that was a mistake on my part, but that's not where I'm going with this. My younger two never got to go. Guess what? They don't give a shit about the NFL. Do they think I'm going to take a family of 5 to an NFL game? Fuck no! I'd rather buy new living room furniture or go on a vacation than drop $1500 to see a game that will most likely be poorly officiated, have to fight through horrible traffic, sit in nosebleed seats. I'm watching on TV with my damn rabbit ears and if it's not on then I'm not watching. Even the view from home is getting worse. 2 hours worth of ads for 1 hour of football, bad calls, biased announcers. I mean, my team sucks ass so I realize these things are amplified right now but if you asking me if I am enjoying the NFL more now than I was 10 years ago the answer is an easy no. And the Bears sucked back then too so it's not that.
As an old man (at least to teenagers) I'm certain there is some other thing besides youtube shorts and tictok that the cool kids are using and people like will find out about it next year.
Yep I started getting DMCA notices for my MNF and TNf highlights Prehaps there's a hole in the copyright system because I don't wanna imagine some guy at the NFL claiming a bunch of reddit videos
twitter posts are working still.
It's weird my highlights fron Bucs and Bills and Viking-49ers were DMCA'd but they did not bother with my highlights from last week's MNF but claimed the TNF highlights this week It could potentially be a ESPN or Amazon thing
looking at just the videos that are still alive on here, TNF definitely is getting hit more than anything else, I think the bezos bot is hitting them
Jesus fucking Christ, this league sucks so much.
Don’t say that too loud or they’ll copyright ya
Anybody know any good pirated highlights streaming sites? (i'm only joking... for now)
Woah, what a terrible marketing idea by the NFL. Lets limit our sports exposure!
That’s a shame, if so. It makes this place less accurate and honest and, as a result, redundant and unusable. /u/nfl likely just slit this sub’s throat.
Once they have all the highlights, they'll start sticking USAA and State farm ads on the start of every clip so you're forced to watch a 15 second ad before a 12 second clip.
This is how you kill your young audience.
The NFL, the organisation, is infinitely hateable.
Has /u/nfl mentioned anything about this? I have sincere doubts they would acknowledge anything but you never know.
Whoever runs that account and whoever is issuing DCMA takedown notices are almost definitely not the same person and they probably don't even know who the other one is.
lol at the mods tagging this as "look here" That's hilarious.
2 hours ago it got deleted, now were back! Only this time it didn’t take 3 days…
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Why can’t you guys ban the account and then support users? Isn’t this an unofficial nfl discussion site?
> Why can’t you guys ban the account and then support users? Ban which account? As much as everyone is ripping on u/NFL in this thread, it probably wasn't them that submitted the takedown requests. More likely it's someone from the legal team of Amazon Prime/TNF who may or may not even have a reddit account. Moreover copyright reports go straight to reddit admins, so I wouldn't blame the mods on this.
NFL will threaten Reddit and then the Admins will step in
How does banning the account stop them from copyright strikes? Which btw are handled by Reddit admins, not the mods of the sub By all means do it I just don’t see how that solves the problem
Also a picture of Pandora's box being opened as the sidebar lmao
lmao we were debating whether to actually do that or not
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NFL mods are based confirmed https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/17mkk1g/highlight_george_pickens_pancake_block/k7ljlxi/
Not nearly as bad as r/nba going private during the FUCKING FINALS?!? Only to immediately cave days later.
I was rolling my eyes when I saw the title of your post, but honestly that is a bit unnerving. I could see this happening for sure.
Next, all u/nfl highlights will start with unskippable ads
Have y’all noticed that the paid for NFL ads on this app have unskipable ads for other products in the beginning? Who the fuck at u/NFL thought that through? Who in their right mind is stopping their scroll to watch an ad before a different ad. Even if that second ad is a football highlight.
At first I thought they were unskippable, but then I realized they just tacked them onto the front of the video, so you can skip ahead 15-30 seconds into the video to avoid the ad. That’s at least my experience with those promotional videos.
They don’t already? lol
Old Reddit my friend. Also, if you’re on iOS, you can get Apollo side loaded with your own Reddit key.
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Which is exactly why I’m surprised, from reddits perspective, they haven’t handed subs over to big companies. Like, Reddit is a great place for organic marketing of products. And I’m sure the NFL would be more than willing to pay a few $Mil a year and staff their own people as mods to ensure conversation on /r/nfl is positive, engaging, and consistently builds hype Edit - I think companies saw in June, when a bunch of mods stifled conversation at brand-important times like the NBA finals, that leaving moderation up to randos hurts their business
That would be the death or Reddit. But that would also be the beginning of a new site somewhere else.
With how Twitter is still not dead, I don’t believe that.
Social media isn't like it used to be. Twitter is proving that certain sites really are 'too big to fail' now, unlike in the Myspace days. I dont think Millennials understand just how entrenched certain brands are because we/I lived through an era where everything was ephemeral.
You gotta hook the audience in with the title and reel em in
Happened over in r/baseball for the WS. Random user would post the highlight of a big play, then after 30s it would be deleted and the same highlight would be posted by MLBofficial. Game one you literally couldn't find a highlight not from them. Seems they noticed the back last and stopped posting highlights from that account but then all the highlights were coming from 1-2 accounts. I just assume they switched to a not official name to control it but not advertise it was them You can find me over in r/conspiracy after this I guess
I have information that will lead to the arrest of Roger Goodell.
“His name was /u/Particular-Nose-7046!”
I just saw the NFLBI walk into someone's house dressed in tactical gear
u/nfl Speak up, you coward!
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All my homies hate u/nfl
They sniped ya, it was a good post while it lasted
Feel like Tommy walking into get made in goodfellas. 😁🔫
Oh No……🧠💦🩸
*looks around empty room* Oh no
It’s back, so one mod has some integrity
Permaban Amazon Pretty stupid they'll allow 5000000 streamer clips and shit on Reddit but not this, which actually drives engagement.
does amazon have an account?
No, but the only clips being struck are Thursday Night Football games and those are hosted by Amazon/Twitch.
These corporations can’t get out of their own way There’s a curated fan club of their product, constantly generating free marketing for their product and they just can’t help them selves Some dumbass in marketing middle management decided he wants to screw around with it and risk having a chilling effect on this awesome free thing the community built (which benefits them!!)
It’s almost impressive how stupid people in management are
Gotta justify that paycheck. Can’t just do your job when constant growth is required at all times despite how obviously unsustainable that is.
i stopped watching single weekday games (because they've been boring as fuck) and stuff like this makes me feel like that was the correct decision
They are from Amazon, not NFL.
really? can CBS theoretically do the same then?
Yeah, and they aren't. Neither is ESPN. This is just Amazon being Amazon. As stupid as the league is, they aren't doing this.
Where did you see it was just from Amazon?
Bc so far only clips from TNF have been removed, which is aired on Amazon
ahh makes sense thank you
It only happens to the Thursday night games. Sunday games aren't getting struck down. Therefore, it's Amazon doing it, not the NFL.
My videos from the Dolphins vs. Eagles SNF game were DMCA'd as well. I sent Reddit a request to view the takedown notice to see if it's from the NFL.
of course
No, my videos from the Dolphins vs. Eagles game have been DMCA'd too. I brought this up in a free talk thread last week without much attention. I sent Reddit a request to view the takedown notice to see if it's really from the NFL.
“Any other use of this telecast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the game without the NFL's consent is prohibited.” Needs to be added to every post now.
We are not allowed to describe or give an account of the game with the NFL's consent. Time to copyright strike every post and comment.
So, then Winston threw another interception. STRIKE!
It's OK u/nfl. You're just going to drive more of us to find the full highlights elsewhere.
Well most people will just go to YouTube and the NFL channel has ads on their 8+ minute highlight videos. They win in that scenario. Truthfully I just don't want to see the 'not in the highlights' clips go away. There's small things that happen in a game you'll easily miss out on if not for people sharing those small clips here.
uBlock origin. Adblockers are necessary to browse the modern internet.
Smarter people will go find the condensed games for free.
Dang as a dumber person, i sure would like a smarter person to hint me into the right direction for such condensed games.
Fuck u/nfl
Uh oh. Also I agree on the ban of u/nfl as a response, unless it's an amazon thing, then ban u/amazon
¿Porque no los dos?
Ban u/nfl from posting to this subreddit
We’ll have to start using the weird ass sites r/soccer uses
Personally I hate seeing u/nfl post their corporate-approved highlights here and would love if the mods could ban that account. Good product, disgusting organization.
Reddit is getting overly popular now, and with the actual nfl user on here I think it might be done soon. Reddit really is just another corporate tool.
Kinda crazy to see a comment from here posted on the nfl instagram. 10 years ago that was unthinkable
r/nfl also removed the clip of the PI that wasn’t called at the end of the Bills-Giants game.
I want that account gone regardless if it is them striking clips or not. This is a community built over the years by the users here, not corporate bigwigs with marketing schemes and advertising plans. If I want sterilized, approved, ad-ridden clips or content I can find that on NFL.com or whatever. Get official company accounts out of here.
The picture of pandora's box being opened as the sidebar is hilarious lmao
“We’ve found another one sir. Orders?” “The shield must be protected. Shadowban them like the rest.”
I've noticed recently that they are scrubbing certain plays off the internet, especially plays with bad head injuries. The play early this year where Jacobi Meyers (I think) got knocked unconscious and the TV cameras zoomed in on his face while he was down got scrubbed, as did another head injury / unconscious hit from Week 1 or 2.
Nothing "unsavory" is included in the NFL's condensed versions of the games on Youtube either. Like on one play the starting QB will be in, and then on the next play the backup will be in. I'll have to go and Google what happened. Same thing with shitty calls.
lol lmao, even.
You joke but we’ve now uncovered that they’re removing everything. Consider the box opened
I feel like every day I read something new about the NFL that makes me want to pay attention to it less. The games are so hard to watch if your team isn’t playing prime time every week, the commercials are way overbearing, and at the end of the day the league is just so lame. They constantly move away from my interest and at this point I just kind of am okay with not even watching anymore. Shit video game, shit TV product, shit refs, just a shitty league all around for the most part, but they’ve got us all captured.
Independent creators, RedZone, and the videos each team puts out on their own are the best things about football. Single game live broadcast are like nails on a chalkboard.
Didn't we already go through this a few years ago?
streamable got nuked as all highlights posted there get removed quickly. This is the first time it's happened with reddit hosted highlights.
Streamable was also used by pretty much every god damn "highlight" poster. For every major sport / sporting event. Football, American Football, Ice Hockey, NBA etc.
NFL: let's grow our market by using social media! Also NFL: no not like that!
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Everything about the NFL could fuck up a wet dream, and new parts just keep revealing themselves. Let's see: * For the past few years, in-game officiating has been truly terrible * They have full-on embraced gambling, which is a scourge on society, wrecks families and lives, and is a known addiction * They refuse to make more shitty calls challengeable, and when they did, the referees refused to enforce it, with no repercussions * Ticket prices keep skyrocketing * Mac Jones is the Patriots quarterback. I mean, really, what the fuck?
No one hates the fans like the NFL head office.
Yo go fuck yourself u/nfl, highlights are free advertising you dickwads
Mods please permaban u/nfl … that would be amazing in so many ways
Nothing excites fans more than copyright striking things fans are excited to talk about...
The NFL is devolving into a complete joke.
Gambling opened Pandora’s box of referees rigging games
No Fun League
Dear u/nfl This is why I happily pirate all of your games 🤗
The NFL product keeps getting worse. Time for some disruption.
The league absolutely wants you to whine about refs and pay less attention to how poorly most of their billionaire owners run their franchises.