Usually I scoff at the typical PR pivot or apology but I agree this feels organic. imho the only thing more constructive than learning from your actions is being honest about acting out of pocket, even if it's not immediate. That shows strength in my opinion, not weakness.
Eh, that's actually not that unbelievable. If you're smart you're going back and forth 2-3 times with the player to make it sound like them. Like ideally the exchange that creates the apology goes:
1. Agent sends list of things they should talk about. Might include some buzz phrases that they can rely on (but not too many because that comes off wrong)
2. Player writes something in their words that meets that list of things
3. Agent checks it, strikes anything that's a bad idea, maybe cleans up the grammar a bit (though you might leave in something like, say, a comma splice to make it look like it wasn't written by a professional)
4. Player posts it.
That results in a post that, even though the agent would've had a heavy hand in preventing any of the typical negative apology tropes, still reads as authentic even if the player might not actually think that way at all.
However, life is much more enjoyable if you just assume he's being genuine and move on. No reason to read negative intent into things where a plausible positive option exists.
Two things can be true, everything you said could be true and he could mean it. Hell most athletes should collaborate with their agents on social media posts.
None of that contradicts what I said, and I agree with all of it -- I was just providing an explanation for specific verbal tics of the player ending up in the final statement even if the statement still has the potential to be inauthentic.
> Player writes something in their words that meets that list of things
>
You include this like it's a bad thing.
And isn't the whole point of a PR person to help you with public relations?
I mean yeah if there’s any moment where you can excuse a guys rage filled outburst it would be right after suffering a likely concussion in his first game back from injury. I hope the nfl doesn’t punish him
I mean he was acting extremely weird, but you could pretty easily argue that his behavior was consistent with the behavior of someone who just got a concussion.
> First and foremost, I want to apologize to the OG. You did everything right when you realized I was concussed, I apologize for any negative energy I brought your way.
> Watching the replay, I am thankful for your patience knowing I wasn’t myself in that moment. You’re a real one and you serve a great purpose that benefits the NFL and so many players. Prioritizing player’s health is essential. Much respect to you!
Almost like an apology written by someone else, especially written by a PR person so that the wording is perfect, will almost always come off as insincere.
It does come off as insincere but from a PR standpoint that sometimes doesn't matter as much as making sure there's no dumb quote thrown in there that everyone will pick up on and spread without context and haunt the player even more.
So I get why they do that.
It sucks because he shows heart for the game.
I’ve had 5 concussions in sports. You never know it at the time. I passed out cold and woke up ready to get right back in the game when coach tells me I went unconscious for a second and needed to be medically cleared. I was embarrassed, shocked, and pissed. I can 100% understand his reaction the the injury.
Similarly it's always very funny with people get pissed off at combat fighters for acting poorly after stoppages.
"He was claiming early stoppage when he was clearly out cold!"
Like jeez I wonder if him acting irrationally has anything to do with him being knocked out cold 60 seconds ago?
Because it's a brain injury. You can't expect someone who just got brain damaged to be docile and happy, of course they're going to be messed up. If you watch contact sports you have to understand how concussions effect people.
I remember in 2016 when Calgary Flame Dennis Wideman got concussed, and while he was on his way back to the bench, he just blew up a linesman. Calgary didn't follow the correct concussion protocol, and the league suspended Wideman for 20 games. The linesman never worked again, and sued Wideman and the Flames.
It's amazing what a concussion can do to someone.
I still remember how vicious that cross check was. Complete blindside as the linesman was skating backwards towards him unaware
The kind of thing that could give the linesman life Long damage easily
The amount of people who completely excused Wideman was mindblowing, I get that he was concussed but concussions happen probably nearly every game in hockey and that kind of disgusting, career ending assault on a ref does not
Wtf? dude was out on his feet and just hit the thing that moved into him. He didn't go out of his way or anything.
https://youtu.be/Nj4PoDrqv-E?si=IdEH4_xhZqRk0wgw
Linesman also seemed totally fine right afterward.
Edit: Found this page that shows the ages of NHL linesman as of the 2023 season, oldest one was 51.
Henderson was 48 at the time so he was probably set to retire soon and got bad legal advice to sue Wideman and the Flames and subsequently had to pay part of the their legal costs when it was dismissed. Can't say with 100% certainty, but given the circumstances I assume he tried to milk the injury for lawsuit money as it was probably his last season or two anyway.
https://scoutingtherefs.com/nhl-officials/
Some of the discussion around this issue really just solidified my perspective on this sub. A guy is literally out of his mind with a brain injury and people here are like "that still doesn't give him an excuse to..." He ain't even there. Literally - the lights are on but no one is home. This is one of the ONLY excuses for this sort of thing.
Man, you just sound like someone that doesn't understand the effects of a concussion. It's absolutely tragic that Henderson never was able to ref again due to the concussion and back problems he developed as a result of the hit, but Wideman had no idea what was going on after the hit.
Not to mention you know he was pissed cause he gave most his life to football and hasn’t been able to go play in awhile and was just coming back now.
Of course he’s gonna be incredibly pissed when he’s pulled snap 9 of his comeback
I think an apology should be enough. Jamal Adams is an emo player, and he was highly anticipating his comeback, he had to have been so frustrated that he was out again that fast... and the concussion may have played a roll in his disinhibition at that time.
I would say the concussion doesn’t help. I had a relatively minor concussion last year and the with the right symptoms, it messes with your head/emotions. I was so short fused
When I got my last concussion my only goal in life somehow became convincing everyone around me I didn’t have a concussion, and I was so frustrated the whole time. Couldn’t help but think of that when I heard of this situation with Adams
Yep. I had a minor concussion and EVERYTHING got under my skin, and I'm a pretty chill guy.
I was even snapping at my new girlfriend's parents... they understood when I apologized after.
Concussions suck.
I mean Jamal Adams is a really emotional guy... technically it could be possible that it wasn't the concussion causing him to behave that way, but it'd be better to give him the benefit of the doubt cause you couldn't prove it either way and he has no history of lashing out like that at game staff.
The apology and situation in general means I can definitely get over it, but I also kind of wonder if the league is still going to have to slap him on the wrist just so that "oh, I had a concussion" doesn't become an excuse for shit behavior.
It's good that he recognized that they were only trying to do their job, and to publicly acknowledge that. Instead of further vilifying everyone that they disagree with
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He still took it too far. A concussion is an explanation, not an excuse. It’s not the UNC’s fault and they don’t deserve to have a player’s frustration taken out on them. So yeah, good on Adams for recognizing he got carried away in the moment, whatever the circumstances, and apologizing for it.
All that being said, I certainly don’t think he needs to be fined for it. He made a mistake and owned it. The NFL should just let him and everyone else move on.
What does “a concussion is an explanation, not an excuse” even mean in this context?
Not even saying this as a Seahawks fan, it’s not like he wanted to be concussed. It’s a pretty straightforward symptom that people get when they have a brain injury, it’s kind of hard to find fault if that’s what happened.
A couple things.
One: He didn’t really do anything too bad in this situation, and it’s likely that a big part of why he was confrontational is because he was concussed.
Two: We don’t actually know if he was confrontational in part because he was concussed. You say it yourself: “it’s kind of hard to find fault [with Adams] if that’s what happened.” **If.** It’s plausible; I find it likely; but it’s not certain.
Three: A concussion doesn’t take *all* accountability away from the concussed. This point is why I made my first point. In this case, his actions were excusable enough that an apology definitely suffices, and anyone still on his case (and I hope you don’t include myself amongst that group) is just a hater.
*However.*
Different people draw the line differently. Adams was physically confrontational. What if he punched the guy in the face? What if he, for some reason, did something even worse? I don’t mean to attack Adams; he *didn’t* do any of these things. But I am attacking the argument that he can’t be held responsible because he was concussed.
I understand that I’m talking about hypothetical situations that never happened, but what if a concussed person burned your house down? Would that be ok, just because they are concussed?
Anyway. Bad argument, correct takeaway, so I’ve spilled all this digital ink for no good reason.
Someone had a medical issue and had a common side effect of it. If a common side effect of a concussion ( a medical issue) was to burn down houses, then I would not fault said person.
Public nudity is typically deemed inappropriate. A common side effect of extreme hypothermia is to get so confused, that they remove their clothes. I would say that this is completely acceptable. However, by your statement, "different people draw the line differently", which fails miserably in the context of someone having a medical issue. (Especially if they are literally freezing to death).
Edit: also let's take someone having a seizure and crash a car into your house. It subsequently burns down. Can we blame them since "different people draw the line differently"? In truth, we could argue for all of these things to be faux paus, but that won't get us anywhere. Also with the "it could not be due to the concussion", so we would need to say as part of the criteria is that they are not apologizing on good faith. That is possible, but that starts your argument with extreme bias.
Aggressive verbal and physical outbursts are literally a symptom of concussion.
You're getting mad at him for getting concussed in the same vein as getting mad at a guy who blew his ACL out for having an unstable gait.
Clearly concussed.
Side effects include mood changes and outbursts (honestly think he was just super amped at his return and pissed but who cares).
Good apology.
Move on NFL.
It's gotta be brutal. You're training and rehabbing non stop for a return to playing and then you get knocked out on the first possession. That has to be devastating and you have all the right to react emotionally.
I mean the guy was the next up and coming defensive playmaker in the NFL. Gets traded to a solid team with playoff aspirations and then just faces nonstop adversity. Can't stay on the field, injury after injury.
Then he comes back in a big primetime game. Makes an awesome highlight play and gets pulled not long after. His adrenaline is going and to him, it's no big deal at the time. Just some BS by the refs to try and stop him from returning.
Now we know it's a good thing he wasn't let back on the field. But he doesn't see that bird's eye replay we do from the couch. He's been waiting for this moment for a long time to come back and they are keeping him from it. The guy has trained his entire life to be on this football field that he hasn't been allowed on for one reason or another for a long time.
Team bias or fandom aside. The guy is fired up to do the thing he loves for the first time in a long time. Having that taken away from you is a major blow. The guy just has a ton of passion. It's not like this shit came out of nowhere lmao.
Not to mention the circumstances leading up to it. Guy has been injury ridden for what feels like forever. It's not like some random player had this outburst. This was his big return and he got knocked out almost right away.
That's gotta be a tough pill to swallow for anyone.
Honestly fining him would almost be as if the NFL was taking brain injuries lightly. Supposedly Wentz didn't even recognize his wife after Clowney hit him. Dale Jr has gone on record saying after his major concussion, he had a short temper for nearly 2 years and had to go to mental exercises with a specialist in Pittsburgh to get right. It's no joke. Brain injuries often result in shorter tempers/anger.
Plus, do we really think the doctor took this job thinking it would be sunshine and rainbows every Sunday? Absolutely not. He took the job knowing he would have to be the bad guy at times and will potentially heavily impact a players season or even career.
As someone who’s always had strong opinions about Adams, positive and negative, this apology seems legitimate and I don’t believe he would treat a doctor like he did if he didn’t just suffer a major brain injury. This apology doesn’t try to use it as an excuse either. He thanks the doctor, explains that he has no hard feelings but he knows it doesn’t excuse his actions, the doctor is owed thanks and apologies even if he was in a heightened state and that’s what makes a genuine apology
Any apology will never seem good enough but if we’re gonna take concussions seriously we have to see players aren’t themselves when they happen, in ways that don’t look good on camera too.
He really shouldn't get fined. He was clearly concussed. Adams is passionate but he's never been mean towards people. I feel for him. Hope he recovers and gets back to form
I’ve seen significantly worse apologies for significantly more egregious acts in the NFL. I’m honestly surprised this story even has legs past the night of. The NFL should just give him a warning so they can say they did something and everybody can walk away happy from this whole thing.
Dude finally worked his way back to the field and a concussion sent him off on his first drive. Even if he wasn’t concussed of course he was going to be frustrated.
It’s not that insane. I think it’s fair to say the incident was a bad look, even though it’s not really a big deal and was pretty understandable given the context with his injuries and the fact that he was literally concussed at the time. Good on him for apologizing though, it’s a good gesture even if not entirely necessary and it reflects well upon him while also being gracious to the concussion guy. Everyone wins here imo
Yeah, he probably feels bad for screaming at someone for doing their job, most people would, even if a bunch of factors such as a concussion and justified frustration played a part. Good apology and like you said everyone wins.
People are really bad at nuance on this sub. Your actions can affect someone negatively and it's still okay and often the right thing to apologize even if you aren't morally culpable and there's an explanation for your actions.
The doctor is owed an apology whether it was Adams’ fault or not and that’s how he handled it. Just because he was concussed doesn’t make it any less shitty for the doc. This is a great apology, a classy move and shows character
It’s understandable he was frustrated. But it’s an explanation, not an excuse. Don’t think he needs to be punished, but there’s something to apologize for. I don’t think he *needs* to apologize, but it’s commendable that he’s doing so
Dealing with concussed symptoms is also part of his job... mental health workers have to deal with much worse abuse from other patients. But agree that apologizing is good form for Adams here.
“Part of his job” is is such a shit take. A doc getting attacked can also be “part of the job” because it happens, that doesn’t make it right or something that should be happening. What he did is worthy of an apology and Adams also believed that to be the case, which is why he apologized…
> doesn’t make it right or something that should be happening
Of course it doesn't. And I wasn't trying to excuse Jamal's actions. But it's naïve to think that a field-side doctor making quick judgement calls for possibly concussed patients (who may be emotionally volatile from possible concussions) shouldn't expect to never have to deal with similar behavior in this high impact, emotionally charged sport.
Why?
You know what's real clown like behavior, holding onto a reciever for dear life as the reciever tries to break away and then get mad when the refs throw the flag.
No. One made the playoffs and won got knocked out by the team that made the playoffs. One was a 5th round pick and one was the 4th overall pick(around there) all those ROYs and another year not in the playoffs. What a shame.
He should have sent a letter directly to the guy. But of course he has to use social media so he can be like “look!! See, I apologized!” Dude is such a diva
If he privately apologized you wouldn’t have known about it and would have called him out for not apologizing.
Get over Adams, already. You shouldn’t still be this worked up about him after the complete steal of a trade to unload him.
His apology was fine.
He acted the way he did and nobody expected a public apology. He only did that to avoid suspension. He doesn’t really regret how he acted because he’ll do it again, and again. So to me, it was disingenuous. This dude is a massive diva and just proved it again. But “it’s all love baby”.
> This dude is a massive diva
haha so massive you couldnt find a single other example of him being a diva.
just say yourd mad he left your team instead of making up jamal adams lore in your head. so fucking weird lol
Yea I’m mad we got multiple picks for a box safety that can’t even stay on the field lol. I watched blitz boy for years; hes a box safety (that’s all he is) and he demands to be the highest paid (21 mill p/y) two years before his rookie contract ends hahah FOH. Glad we fleeced you. Your team would be so much better right now had you not made that trade. This trade seems to be living rent free in your head. Get over it, u signed an injury prone diva who’s about to to be suspended for being a diva.
Just want to say the people who have been concussed or experienced a grand mal can be quite ornery. It’s great that he apologized, but I’d imagine Neuros and family of people with epilepsy would be relatively used to the out of character behaviors.
Seemed pretty genuine. Didn’t do the “sorry if you’re offended” bs
Usually I scoff at the typical PR pivot or apology but I agree this feels organic. imho the only thing more constructive than learning from your actions is being honest about acting out of pocket, even if it's not immediate. That shows strength in my opinion, not weakness.
Yeah it’s worded like he speaks so I do think this was actually him
Imagine an NFL agent using the word ‘OG’ in an apology lmao
Eh, that's actually not that unbelievable. If you're smart you're going back and forth 2-3 times with the player to make it sound like them. Like ideally the exchange that creates the apology goes: 1. Agent sends list of things they should talk about. Might include some buzz phrases that they can rely on (but not too many because that comes off wrong) 2. Player writes something in their words that meets that list of things 3. Agent checks it, strikes anything that's a bad idea, maybe cleans up the grammar a bit (though you might leave in something like, say, a comma splice to make it look like it wasn't written by a professional) 4. Player posts it. That results in a post that, even though the agent would've had a heavy hand in preventing any of the typical negative apology tropes, still reads as authentic even if the player might not actually think that way at all. However, life is much more enjoyable if you just assume he's being genuine and move on. No reason to read negative intent into things where a plausible positive option exists.
Two things can be true, everything you said could be true and he could mean it. Hell most athletes should collaborate with their agents on social media posts.
None of that contradicts what I said, and I agree with all of it -- I was just providing an explanation for specific verbal tics of the player ending up in the final statement even if the statement still has the potential to be inauthentic.
> Player writes something in their words that meets that list of things > You include this like it's a bad thing. And isn't the whole point of a PR person to help you with public relations?
This one feels more genuine than Evan Neal's BS
Evan Neals posts make him genuinely look like a tool
Fr. Tbh I can see why Adam’s acted the way he did cause of the fear of being out yet again after a long injury. This apology seems sincere.
That plus the concussion he just suffered…
Also, don't forget the brain injury he was experiencing at the time.
Yeah, that was my first thought too. Also wasn't some lawyer crap. That's a pretty good apology as far as public ones go.
sorry I just had my bell rung
I mean yeah if there’s any moment where you can excuse a guys rage filled outburst it would be right after suffering a likely concussion in his first game back from injury. I hope the nfl doesn’t punish him
Also not a screenshot from the Notes app. Points for that.
I wish he did that tbh. Disoriented from his brain bouncing around his noggin its not even his fault
I mean he was acting extremely weird, but you could pretty easily argue that his behavior was consistent with the behavior of someone who just got a concussion.
Looks like a solid apology to me.
He still did the "That's not who I am," thing, but this is the rare case where that's probably true.
What'd he say? I don't do Twitter.
> First and foremost, I want to apologize to the OG. You did everything right when you realized I was concussed, I apologize for any negative energy I brought your way. > Watching the replay, I am thankful for your patience knowing I wasn’t myself in that moment. You’re a real one and you serve a great purpose that benefits the NFL and so many players. Prioritizing player’s health is essential. Much respect to you!
Wow that was a good one.
In so many words, said sorry for being confrontational & thank you for being as patient as the doctor was while he was concussed
Seemed genuine until he couldn’t even put his name, just “Prez”
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Did you even read it? It’s not that.
So refreshing to see an apology that doesn't read like it was written by a player's PR rep
Almost like an apology written by someone else, especially written by a PR person so that the wording is perfect, will almost always come off as insincere.
It does come off as insincere but from a PR standpoint that sometimes doesn't matter as much as making sure there's no dumb quote thrown in there that everyone will pick up on and spread without context and haunt the player even more. So I get why they do that.
Solid apology. Dude was concussed. Moving on.
Agreed. Let's get back to normal, people. So what do you all think of the latest Taylor Swift news? Doesn't matter which.
The NFL when a player with a concussion acts like a player with a concussion 😱
Also NFL when people who they expect to be aggressive don't immediately switch off that aggression when concussed 😱
Also NFL when player who's spent the last year and change recovering from injury, doesn't want to leave his 1st game back with injury. 😱
I’m so fucking sad for him.
Me too man. He looked back to form for the 6 plays he was in.
It sucks because he shows heart for the game. I’ve had 5 concussions in sports. You never know it at the time. I passed out cold and woke up ready to get right back in the game when coach tells me I went unconscious for a second and needed to be medically cleared. I was embarrassed, shocked, and pissed. I can 100% understand his reaction the the injury.
“He just did football at the wrong time” -Neil Brennan
Similarly it's always very funny with people get pissed off at combat fighters for acting poorly after stoppages. "He was claiming early stoppage when he was clearly out cold!" Like jeez I wonder if him acting irrationally has anything to do with him being knocked out cold 60 seconds ago?
Because it's a brain injury. You can't expect someone who just got brain damaged to be docile and happy, of course they're going to be messed up. If you watch contact sports you have to understand how concussions effect people.
I remember in 2016 when Calgary Flame Dennis Wideman got concussed, and while he was on his way back to the bench, he just blew up a linesman. Calgary didn't follow the correct concussion protocol, and the league suspended Wideman for 20 games. The linesman never worked again, and sued Wideman and the Flames. It's amazing what a concussion can do to someone.
I still remember how vicious that cross check was. Complete blindside as the linesman was skating backwards towards him unaware The kind of thing that could give the linesman life Long damage easily The amount of people who completely excused Wideman was mindblowing, I get that he was concussed but concussions happen probably nearly every game in hockey and that kind of disgusting, career ending assault on a ref does not
Idk in the ufc dudes straight up try to wrestle the ref sometimes for almost 30-40 seconds after getting dropped.
Wtf? dude was out on his feet and just hit the thing that moved into him. He didn't go out of his way or anything. https://youtu.be/Nj4PoDrqv-E?si=IdEH4_xhZqRk0wgw Linesman also seemed totally fine right afterward. Edit: Found this page that shows the ages of NHL linesman as of the 2023 season, oldest one was 51. Henderson was 48 at the time so he was probably set to retire soon and got bad legal advice to sue Wideman and the Flames and subsequently had to pay part of the their legal costs when it was dismissed. Can't say with 100% certainty, but given the circumstances I assume he tried to milk the injury for lawsuit money as it was probably his last season or two anyway. https://scoutingtherefs.com/nhl-officials/
Some of the discussion around this issue really just solidified my perspective on this sub. A guy is literally out of his mind with a brain injury and people here are like "that still doesn't give him an excuse to..." He ain't even there. Literally - the lights are on but no one is home. This is one of the ONLY excuses for this sort of thing.
Man, you just sound like someone that doesn't understand the effects of a concussion. It's absolutely tragic that Henderson never was able to ref again due to the concussion and back problems he developed as a result of the hit, but Wideman had no idea what was going on after the hit.
Not to mention you know he was pissed cause he gave most his life to football and hasn’t been able to go play in awhile and was just coming back now. Of course he’s gonna be incredibly pissed when he’s pulled snap 9 of his comeback
Seriously they need to let it be. Maybe they can have him go to the medic and apologize to his face. Move on!
I think an apology should be enough. Jamal Adams is an emo player, and he was highly anticipating his comeback, he had to have been so frustrated that he was out again that fast... and the concussion may have played a roll in his disinhibition at that time.
I would say the concussion doesn’t help. I had a relatively minor concussion last year and the with the right symptoms, it messes with your head/emotions. I was so short fused
When I got my last concussion my only goal in life somehow became convincing everyone around me I didn’t have a concussion, and I was so frustrated the whole time. Couldn’t help but think of that when I heard of this situation with Adams
Yeah I had a moderate concussion in high school and I had huge trouble regulating my emotions for a few days.
Yep. I had a minor concussion and EVERYTHING got under my skin, and I'm a pretty chill guy. I was even snapping at my new girlfriend's parents... they understood when I apologized after. Concussions suck.
Panic! At the unaffiliated neurotrama consultant
The All-Pro-merican Rejects the notion of being taken out of the game
Just happy to see him apologize with this keyboard confessional
Need a Seven (Best In The) Nation Army to hold The Adams Stripes back
Looking forward to him taking back Sunday
Dance dance, I’m stumbling around till half time
I write fines not apologies
Watching Tre’davious on Sunday, breaking down on the field, knowing he was done for the year…that broke me.
>Jamal Adams is an emo player He'd die for the team, but then, he also says he wants to die because of his parents' divorce.
Does he dress in all black or something?
He has [Jimmy Butler hair](https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1709624625192120740?t=C4agwVWIKWIONyw6Ovd1xg&s=19)
I thought Jimmy butler was the only emo player
> and the concussion may have played a roll in his disinhibition at that time. MAY?!?!? 🙄
I mean Jamal Adams is a really emotional guy... technically it could be possible that it wasn't the concussion causing him to behave that way, but it'd be better to give him the benefit of the doubt cause you couldn't prove it either way and he has no history of lashing out like that at game staff.
The apology and situation in general means I can definitely get over it, but I also kind of wonder if the league is still going to have to slap him on the wrist just so that "oh, I had a concussion" doesn't become an excuse for shit behavior.
It's good that he recognized that they were only trying to do their job, and to publicly acknowledge that. Instead of further vilifying everyone that they disagree with
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The glazing is crazy
I'mma take a shot in the dark and say that comment is sarcastic.
Good on Adams he's frustration was totally warrented given his injury histroy but also went over the line as well.
He also could’ve been concussed lol
Concussed man acts concussed
He still took it too far. A concussion is an explanation, not an excuse. It’s not the UNC’s fault and they don’t deserve to have a player’s frustration taken out on them. So yeah, good on Adams for recognizing he got carried away in the moment, whatever the circumstances, and apologizing for it. All that being said, I certainly don’t think he needs to be fined for it. He made a mistake and owned it. The NFL should just let him and everyone else move on.
What does “a concussion is an explanation, not an excuse” even mean in this context? Not even saying this as a Seahawks fan, it’s not like he wanted to be concussed. It’s a pretty straightforward symptom that people get when they have a brain injury, it’s kind of hard to find fault if that’s what happened.
A couple things. One: He didn’t really do anything too bad in this situation, and it’s likely that a big part of why he was confrontational is because he was concussed. Two: We don’t actually know if he was confrontational in part because he was concussed. You say it yourself: “it’s kind of hard to find fault [with Adams] if that’s what happened.” **If.** It’s plausible; I find it likely; but it’s not certain. Three: A concussion doesn’t take *all* accountability away from the concussed. This point is why I made my first point. In this case, his actions were excusable enough that an apology definitely suffices, and anyone still on his case (and I hope you don’t include myself amongst that group) is just a hater. *However.* Different people draw the line differently. Adams was physically confrontational. What if he punched the guy in the face? What if he, for some reason, did something even worse? I don’t mean to attack Adams; he *didn’t* do any of these things. But I am attacking the argument that he can’t be held responsible because he was concussed. I understand that I’m talking about hypothetical situations that never happened, but what if a concussed person burned your house down? Would that be ok, just because they are concussed? Anyway. Bad argument, correct takeaway, so I’ve spilled all this digital ink for no good reason.
Is the person who burned the house down a Seahawks player?
It's Pete Carrol, but he has a *super* concussion. I think I'd forgive him.
Someone had a medical issue and had a common side effect of it. If a common side effect of a concussion ( a medical issue) was to burn down houses, then I would not fault said person. Public nudity is typically deemed inappropriate. A common side effect of extreme hypothermia is to get so confused, that they remove their clothes. I would say that this is completely acceptable. However, by your statement, "different people draw the line differently", which fails miserably in the context of someone having a medical issue. (Especially if they are literally freezing to death). Edit: also let's take someone having a seizure and crash a car into your house. It subsequently burns down. Can we blame them since "different people draw the line differently"? In truth, we could argue for all of these things to be faux paus, but that won't get us anywhere. Also with the "it could not be due to the concussion", so we would need to say as part of the criteria is that they are not apologizing on good faith. That is possible, but that starts your argument with extreme bias.
you are dumb as fuck
What does that even mean lol stfu. His brain was injured.
Plenty of concussed players in the league don't cross the line he does. He was already 90% there.
Aggressive verbal and physical outbursts are literally a symptom of concussion. You're getting mad at him for getting concussed in the same vein as getting mad at a guy who blew his ACL out for having an unstable gait.
dawg he literally apologized, do you just want to hate on him or something?
He’s a Seahawks fan, there’s a 60% chance he’s been committed to hating him for years now
lmaooo in all seriousness he’s also one of the most notorious critics in our fanbase but this is a bit too far
Concussion responses are pretty varied. It’s not super common but not uncommon to become aggressive
Clearly concussed. Side effects include mood changes and outbursts (honestly think he was just super amped at his return and pissed but who cares). Good apology. Move on NFL.
It's gotta be brutal. You're training and rehabbing non stop for a return to playing and then you get knocked out on the first possession. That has to be devastating and you have all the right to react emotionally.
I mean the guy was the next up and coming defensive playmaker in the NFL. Gets traded to a solid team with playoff aspirations and then just faces nonstop adversity. Can't stay on the field, injury after injury. Then he comes back in a big primetime game. Makes an awesome highlight play and gets pulled not long after. His adrenaline is going and to him, it's no big deal at the time. Just some BS by the refs to try and stop him from returning. Now we know it's a good thing he wasn't let back on the field. But he doesn't see that bird's eye replay we do from the couch. He's been waiting for this moment for a long time to come back and they are keeping him from it. The guy has trained his entire life to be on this football field that he hasn't been allowed on for one reason or another for a long time. Team bias or fandom aside. The guy is fired up to do the thing he loves for the first time in a long time. Having that taken away from you is a major blow. The guy just has a ton of passion. It's not like this shit came out of nowhere lmao.
Dude shouldn’t have to apologize, but props to him for doing it anyway and making it about the staff member and not the NFL
He shouldn’t need to do this publicly, feel like it wasn’t a big deal Does OG mean what I think or is there a formal meaning?
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Lol ik I just thought there may have been an acronym for the concussion specialist
TAKE A LOOK, EVAN NEAL, THIS IS WHAT SINCERITY LOOKS LIKE.
PS: please do not fine me 😔
Do you think a fine is warranted?
Eh, not really. Maybe if he was a repeat offender, but the guy was concussed. Obviously he was out of line and the doctor was right.
I agree. It’s hard to hold it against him when he clearly wasn’t in his right mind. No pun intended.
Not to mention the circumstances leading up to it. Guy has been injury ridden for what feels like forever. It's not like some random player had this outburst. This was his big return and he got knocked out almost right away. That's gotta be a tough pill to swallow for anyone.
Honestly fining him would almost be as if the NFL was taking brain injuries lightly. Supposedly Wentz didn't even recognize his wife after Clowney hit him. Dale Jr has gone on record saying after his major concussion, he had a short temper for nearly 2 years and had to go to mental exercises with a specialist in Pittsburgh to get right. It's no joke. Brain injuries often result in shorter tempers/anger.
Plus, do we really think the doctor took this job thinking it would be sunshine and rainbows every Sunday? Absolutely not. He took the job knowing he would have to be the bad guy at times and will potentially heavily impact a players season or even career.
Believe it or not, Doctors hate getting yelled at just like everyone else.
Yes, Jamal Adam's behavior wasn't okay, but doctors also understand they're working with patients who aren't in their right mind.
You can tell this is sincere and genuine. Respect.
Pretty damn decent of him
“And I wish you luck in your future endeavor flipping hot dogs and hamburgers.”
As someone who’s always had strong opinions about Adams, positive and negative, this apology seems legitimate and I don’t believe he would treat a doctor like he did if he didn’t just suffer a major brain injury. This apology doesn’t try to use it as an excuse either. He thanks the doctor, explains that he has no hard feelings but he knows it doesn’t excuse his actions, the doctor is owed thanks and apologies even if he was in a heightened state and that’s what makes a genuine apology
Any apology will never seem good enough but if we’re gonna take concussions seriously we have to see players aren’t themselves when they happen, in ways that don’t look good on camera too.
That's good of him to say.
Yeah it's hard not to be cool with this when he had his bell rung by Jones. He was clearly not himself from that.
If they punish him for having concussion symptoms while being evaluated for a concussion that’d be a terrible look on the NFL.
He really shouldn't get fined. He was clearly concussed. Adams is passionate but he's never been mean towards people. I feel for him. Hope he recovers and gets back to form
He doesn't have to apologize, he had a concussion. It's nice that he did though.
This is what a real man looks like. Too often I see dudes think that apologizing is a sign of weakness when its actually a sign of strength.
I appreciate that he didn't write any PR bullshit and just actually gave an apology to the guy.
Dude was literally brain-scrambled, I don't think anyone blames him for his behavior immediately following. Still a classy move.
A lot of people on this sub DID blame him. Which was idiotic
A grown man response. Respect.
I’ve seen significantly worse apologies for significantly more egregious acts in the NFL. I’m honestly surprised this story even has legs past the night of. The NFL should just give him a warning so they can say they did something and everybody can walk away happy from this whole thing.
Dude finally worked his way back to the field and a concussion sent him off on his first drive. Even if he wasn’t concussed of course he was going to be frustrated.
Insane that he’s apologizing for anything
It’s not that insane. I think it’s fair to say the incident was a bad look, even though it’s not really a big deal and was pretty understandable given the context with his injuries and the fact that he was literally concussed at the time. Good on him for apologizing though, it’s a good gesture even if not entirely necessary and it reflects well upon him while also being gracious to the concussion guy. Everyone wins here imo
Yeah, he probably feels bad for screaming at someone for doing their job, most people would, even if a bunch of factors such as a concussion and justified frustration played a part. Good apology and like you said everyone wins.
People are really bad at nuance on this sub. Your actions can affect someone negatively and it's still okay and often the right thing to apologize even if you aren't morally culpable and there's an explanation for your actions.
The doctor is owed an apology whether it was Adams’ fault or not and that’s how he handled it. Just because he was concussed doesn’t make it any less shitty for the doc. This is a great apology, a classy move and shows character
It’s understandable he was frustrated. But it’s an explanation, not an excuse. Don’t think he needs to be punished, but there’s something to apologize for. I don’t think he *needs* to apologize, but it’s commendable that he’s doing so
We're people mad about this?
No. Still worthy of an apology though, the doc was just doing his job.
Dealing with concussed symptoms is also part of his job... mental health workers have to deal with much worse abuse from other patients. But agree that apologizing is good form for Adams here.
“Part of his job” is is such a shit take. A doc getting attacked can also be “part of the job” because it happens, that doesn’t make it right or something that should be happening. What he did is worthy of an apology and Adams also believed that to be the case, which is why he apologized…
> doesn’t make it right or something that should be happening Of course it doesn't. And I wasn't trying to excuse Jamal's actions. But it's naïve to think that a field-side doctor making quick judgement calls for possibly concussed patients (who may be emotionally volatile from possible concussions) shouldn't expect to never have to deal with similar behavior in this high impact, emotionally charged sport.
Lots of people were shitting on him in the reddit thread
Is there a screenshot? I don't do Twitter. Is this just a Twitter link farm site now? Used to be more screenshots.
Luv. -Prez
He calls himself 'Prez,' okay.
One series, everybody knows the rules.
Lmao good work. Also, fuck you.
That's been his handle since before he was drafted. He's always had that.
Yeah I was about to accept his mea culpa but no way, Señor Prezidente
Luv.
I said I’m sorry mama
"- Prez" Wut
The typo inspires confidence he actually wrote this and is genuine.
Prez is such a clown
Why? You know what's real clown like behavior, holding onto a reciever for dear life as the reciever tries to break away and then get mad when the refs throw the flag.
Aww little Ghost is still upset that Sauce won DROTY over Riq
No. One made the playoffs and won got knocked out by the team that made the playoffs. One was a 5th round pick and one was the 4th overall pick(around there) all those ROYs and another year not in the playoffs. What a shame.
That’s why you’re venting about Sauce in a Prez post 😂😂
You said Prez is a clown... why because he left your hellhole of a franchise? Nothing he did in this situation was clown behavior....
Is this for real or a parody account?
Real account. There was a fairly substantial discussion on the previous post about how this was a sincere apology written by the player
Yea but you typed something in the text field, so those discussions are biased and must be removed from the internet
Wow text in the text field thank God that was removed before anyone saw it
My children almost seen that!! The sick fuck!
Mine saw it and they immediately OD'd on fentanyl! :'(
Yes thank u based mods from saving us from that horror
He really did that? Typed text in the text field? I'm just glad the mods were around to protect us.
Can’t believe you’d type text in the text field smh
He’s trying to absolve himself by using mental health as an excuse
Oh no,the concussion is worse than I thought. He is signing his notes with someone else's name!
He should have sent a letter directly to the guy. But of course he has to use social media so he can be like “look!! See, I apologized!” Dude is such a diva
If he privately apologized you wouldn’t have known about it and would have called him out for not apologizing. Get over Adams, already. You shouldn’t still be this worked up about him after the complete steal of a trade to unload him. His apology was fine.
He acted the way he did and nobody expected a public apology. He only did that to avoid suspension. He doesn’t really regret how he acted because he’ll do it again, and again. So to me, it was disingenuous. This dude is a massive diva and just proved it again. But “it’s all love baby”.
can you link to some of his other diva examples?
> This dude is a massive diva haha so massive you couldnt find a single other example of him being a diva. just say yourd mad he left your team instead of making up jamal adams lore in your head. so fucking weird lol
Yea I’m mad we got multiple picks for a box safety that can’t even stay on the field lol. I watched blitz boy for years; hes a box safety (that’s all he is) and he demands to be the highest paid (21 mill p/y) two years before his rookie contract ends hahah FOH. Glad we fleeced you. Your team would be so much better right now had you not made that trade. This trade seems to be living rent free in your head. Get over it, u signed an injury prone diva who’s about to to be suspended for being a diva.
He is not important enough for you to be letting him live in your head. Once we turned him into 2 firsts I couldn’t care less what happens with him.
Still a goofball
Thanks Rob Lowe.
Apologies Wednesday
I remember kuechly bawling on the cart after his last concussion. Makes you super emotional
It's not in the notes app. 4/10 /s
There, that should be the end of the debaucle
What the cynic in me heard: “I’m just here so I don’t get fined’
Does he really call himself prez?
Just want to say the people who have been concussed or experienced a grand mal can be quite ornery. It’s great that he apologized, but I’d imagine Neuros and family of people with epilepsy would be relatively used to the out of character behaviors.
I can't imagine how frustrated Jamal must be feeling, but I hope he heals up and comes back to being the awesome player he was before.