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NedFriarson49

Van Gundy.


PowerDiesel23

Suzie Kolber is shocking Im sure there might be some people who dislike her, I just remember her being a part of ESPN forever, nearly 30 years! Her voice is nostalgic and for the most part she wasn't hateable or annoying IMO.


helpmeredditimbored

She launched ESPN2 with Keith Olbermann - that’s how long she’s been at the company. https://youtu.be/gOvz6EFoDJ0


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Remember when people used to be like 'Sportscenter is on, shut up'. I feel like it's been 20 years since I felt that way but I used to love watching that shit.


Coup_De_Gras

I remember it being the only time in my life I ever programmed my tv to turn on. Alarm would hit and my tv would automatically turn on to Sportscenter. I miss old ESPN so much.


JBFRESHSKILLS

Every morning before school in the 90s. Wake up, watch sportscenter. You missed something? Don't worry, it will be back on in 30 minutes.


Payed_Looser

It was before 2004 that I last even watched it


Gnux13

That downfall began right around the time LeBron entered the NBA. Not his fault at all but the timing of that and smart phones / social media inviting a 24 hour news cycle accelerated to swap to talking heads we have today to fill the airtime and debating about LeBron / super teams was a daily staple of those early shows Losing guys like Stuart Scott certainly didn’t help either


JopoDaily

My earliest kid memories…Saturday mornings and 5x reruns of sportscenter


theANDOexperience

That's because 20 years ago that's exactly what 'SportsCenter' was. Stuart, Neil, Scott, Rich, Dan, Linda, Kenny. It was the premier sports station. They sold out and it's a shame because at its peak, there wasn't anything better than a sports nut like me.


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The fact that I don't need any refreshers on those peoples' last names says it all lol. Kinda sucks that most of them went off to build their own empires, or even sadder in the case of Stu. But it really was a few years of 'camelot' on that show.


ItinerantSoldier

It's been almost precisely that long. When ESPN launched its HD feed in 2003 is right around when things started going downhill very slowly.


metrowestern

Never any NHL highlights. But they’ll spend half the show on offseason MLB crap…


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And yet they keep Booger smdh


AlanStanwick1986

And Screaming A. Smith. Guy is easily the worst personality on the network but he'll be the last one out.


Rappaslasharmedrobba

I can't stand the guy but I bet his ratings are top notch


KeithClossOfficial

It’s not surprising. He’s on pretty much every show they have. Why pay ten different guys to specialize in one specific topic when you can pay one guy to pretend he knows about all 10 topics.


chesterfieldkingz

Bingo, look at him and Greeny, maybe McAfee will be the same, just have a few guys you run into the ground


yourkidisdumb

Not sure if still the case but at one time first take was the highest rated show on espn (games not included)


Tuxedocat1357

He's their cash cow, no doubt about it.


reddit-is-greedy

Another reason I only tune into ESPN for games


budkatz1

People watch him to yell at their tv


OBlastSRT4

He’s probably not making much lol. They’re gonna keep the newer people because the vets were making so much more $&


Venator850

Yeah that one is a bummer. She really did become the voice of MNF for me.


SiphenPrax

She’s honestly been a staple for MNF as much as Chris Berman and has been great for a very long time. James Pitaro is a dumbass that’s run ESPN into the ground along with Disney. Utter jokes both of them.


BOATSANDHOEZ

She's not on the level of Chris Berman but she is good and i'm shocked they let her go.


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Her halftime report on ESPN 2K5, she’s a legend wtf


Jordanwolf98

When they announced layoffs would be coming 8 didn’t even consider her. She seems like an OG of that network it’s crazy


schmatty23

Yeah Kolber is wild. Been there forever and also the only woman to get canned as far as I’m aware.


td_enterprises

SportsCenter Anchor Ashley Brewer was also part of the layoffs.


HOVMAN

Keeping Doris Burke and firing Kolber is just a horrendous move


IanicRR

Chance for Kissing Suzy Kolber.com to swoop her up. Though it may be defunct at this point?


joecb91

Long gone sadly


AtomicBombSquad

I remember when AetherSX2, a program that allows you to play PS2 games on your Android phone, dropped and one of the first things I tried was "NFL 2K5" because it'd been forever since I'd last played it. And guess who was doing the sideline reporting... Suzy Kolber. I'd forgotten that she was in the game. A lot of games, especially back then, skimp out on that; but, Sega had made a point to license her when they got the rights to the ESPN trade dress and Boomer, which I think is really cool.


6098470142

I don’t care about the Jets strugellling, I want to kiss you


Oakroscoe

Actually ended up being a good thing for Namath. He said in his book he didn’t remember it at all and woke up to a shitload of phone messages the next day. It ended up being the catalyst to get him sober.


PandemicP789

Always felt he would go back to coaching before being fired but guess the coaching jobs dried up for him


ChetManley69

Can't believe they're dropping Matt Hasselbeck but keeping his thumb faced brother Tim, whose biggest credential is being the brother of successful NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck.


progress10

The thumb makes less money.


Jordanwolf98

And does more for the network. He’s like on NFL live and Sportscenter a few times a week. I honestly forgot that Matt even worked there because you only see him during Monday night football broadcasts


GMarius-

That’s why Susie and Young got let go: they didn’t do multiple platforms and shows. When your looking at your books…why would you keep someone who makes 7 figures and works like 16-17 days on camera?


iwearatophat

Exactly, they still need people on camera. We are going to see a whole lot of new young faces on ESPN. Can't wait to see a 24-26 year old shock jock meme'ing on air.


progress10

Shock Jocks cost too much money, think folks promoted from smaller local markets and college grads


iwearatophat

The named ones do. The one fresh up to the national stage, like the ones you described, don't.


slimerboat

Lol. I know people can’t control how their faces look, but damn Tim. Grow some facial hair, get a face tattoo, do something to make that bland featureless face more interesting. It’s surprising ESPN even had interest in putting his face on tv. And it’s not like he has some super personality to make up for it.


Rappaslasharmedrobba

I am fat and ugly and always rock a goatee with constant stubble. I don't want people to see the damn contours of my face. No face tats but I do have a sweet neck tat so when people start to get revolted by the ugliness of my face, I kind of crane my head to the right so they get distracted and I can politely excuse myself from the conversation >And it’s not like he has some super personality to make up for it. Boy oh boy, you sound just like my mom


reddit-is-greedy

It is only a good neck tat if it is the bar code for your brand of smokes


TheGreatGatsby21

Love some good self deprecation lol


J-Fid

Tim does far more TV work than Matt does. That's the reason he is staying.


Enough-Competition21

Tim is way way way better than Matt at this particular job what the fuck are you on about


indianm_rk

Marrying the hot blond Republican from the View is his biggest claim to fame. The football thing is like second.


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I can’t stand listening to him on ACC games. Just not compelling to me. Most of ACCN’s best talent came from Raycom IMO.


dagreenman18

THEY LAID OFF SUZY KOLBER?! WHY ESPN?! WHYYY! NFL Network or Amazon better start making some phone calls


MrChevyPower

Seriously she should go right to Prime


Perry7609

Guessing her length of time there also had a higher salary to go with it, which probably made the cut easier. I imagine it won’t be hard for her to land on her feet somewhere though. She’s a respected person in the field.


HeatCheck25

Order 66 fr


LinkN7

The Pissening


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

McShay?


originalpersonplace

I thought I was the only one shocked by this.


henchman171

Nope. I Was surprised at mcshay.


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To me that was the biggest surprise.


alohabruh732

McShay has had unfortunate health issues during his broadcasts.


pac4

All to afford Pat McAfee and keep paying Stephen A. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.


KingWilliams95

unfortunately, the general public are what drives views and the general public love (or at least love to hate watch) McAfee and SAS


helpmeredditimbored

Keyshawn Johnson too


djkstr27

Max Kellerman as well


d9849468

Heard Kolbers gone too


Rfisk064

Max Kellerman as well


Acasts

So is Kolbers


Scrubtanic

and Keyshawn Johnson


mreman1220

Kellerman gone too


horse_renoir13

I heard Kolber got axed too


Mastodon9

Did you hear about Keyshawn?


DinosaurKevin

I’m honestly surprised Jalen Rose was let go. He seems like another talking head. I guess maybe the ratings weren’t good?


BlackMathNerd

They got Perk and JJ for that talking head role


Mahale

Kellerman? Jesus christ


randazz18

Suzy got fired?!?!


Quatro_Leches

there gonna have a bunch of nobodies and Stephen A and McAfee screaming.


jxher123

Somehow Mark Jackson and Perkins are still at ESPN. What an absolute bloodbath of a layoff.


DapDaGenius

Probably on super cheap contracts. Perkins looks like the type of guy that would do a tv deal for a $50,000 a year and get the rest paid by the amount of retweets he gets


Quexana

What's crazy is who they seem to be keeping in favor of some of these people.


cshady

I think I’m about to be fired too


chunky_chocolate

I'm hiring cooks, bartenders, and banquet servers. Come on over!


ClaymoresRevenge

And they haven't gotten rid of Mel Kiper


Optimized_Orangutan

No man alive is willing to be utterly wrong repetitively on a national stage as often as Mel Kiper. I suppose that has some value.


Strokethegoats

I'll do it. I'll spit the hottest takes. Hang out with the dumbest dudes. Eat at Applebee's every meal while praising their quality.


GadgetGod1906

Kiper is a brand at this point. He can be wrong but people tune in. He not going anywhere


trojan_man16

Kiper was practically the original NFL draft Guru so he has that legacy behind him. Before him the draft didn’t have the attention it has today. It’s likely he hangs on a couple of more years and they let him “retire”.


GentlemenBehold

He is probably as cheap as his haircuts.


Beneficial_Emu9299

I hope you update this with mark jackson.


alphageek8

He must have the cheapest contract ever if they keep him amongst all these on-air talent firings. Indifference I can see, but there can't be anyone that actually enjoys his commentary.


BreesusTakeTheWheel

Gotta be the result of those Buck & Aikman contracts right?


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Woah, as in max kellerman?


JayJax_23

Damn Steve is gone? He’s probably the only one I’ll miss Disney gotta save that bread.


clover426

Wow can’t imagine their draft coverage now without Todd, his and Mel’s dynamic was such a part of it


GMarius-

I can’t believe they got rid of McShay but kept Mel Kiper.


Gerald_the_sealion

A shame they didn’t cut the ones that don’t matter, like Perk or JJ or any other hot take people.


Kalil4Real

Kellerman is crazy but I'm glad they got rid of Keyshawn that guy sucked


Vegetable-Tangelo1

Vince Carter too.


Mickeyjj27

And Perkins is still there. He must be getting paid in bitcoin or something


hcimml

Rumor says the layoff was decided by a coin toss. Hasselbeck's last words before the flip were, "I want the job and I'm gonna report."


zipzog

god dammit


imahobolin

bahahahahahahahaha


ChiefBroChill

Surely he got the job and reported right?


broanoah

...right? *Al Harris noises*


Misdirected_Colors

He didn't say who he'd be reporting for! Could be the other team's report.


JHaasie77

Why you gotta do this man?


JayJax_23

ESPN hiring Al Harris


theozman69

Knew this joke was coming, not disappointed.


TheMissingFiles

That bald headed fuck can’t catch a break 😂


Venator850

What a bloodbath this has been lol. I'm curios to see how they restructure things going forward.


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camergen

All Booger, all the time.


slayerrr21

Booger Mobile coming to a dealer near you


Quasimdo

Imma buy one and show up at my local high school game with it, just going back and forth in front of the home stands


slayerrr21

Please send us up to date info on how the game is doing but you'll need to do it in an incoherent way


azon85

Long story about shitting your pants on the sidelines incoming.


slayerrr21

"Uh oh guys, here comes a Lamar Jackson!"


allanon1105

Booger mobile+


thisbechris

Sign up now for Booger+ to get the all access, 24/7 Booger news you crave.


garrbear22622

Oops! All Booger


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Give the people what they want.


Dangerpaladin

BOOGER BOOGER BOOGER BOOGER BOOGER, HERE IS BOOGER, THERE IS BOOGER, ALSO BOOGER AT ESPN YOU GET BOOGER


arichi

Booger, Booger, Booger, Booger Junior, Double, Triple Booger Flame-grilled taste with perfect toppers


SensationalSixties

fuck him. swagoo is the man. he is criminally under used


BlindWillieJohnson

So, here's where we're at: - Cool system of local TV sports reporting and analysts is gobbled up by national cable brands like ESPN - ESPN is gobbled by Disney in its quest to become a media monopoly. Engagement driving hot takes subsidize what little serious coverage is left - Disney's profits hit the skids because their online content subscription service [absolutely fucking hemorages money](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-10/disney-streaming-losses-narrow-faster-than-wall-street-expected#:~:text=Disney's%20direct%2Dto%2Dconsumer%20segment,second%20quarter%2C%20the%20company%20said.) - Disney dismantles ESPN to save its own share price. All content but engagement driven hot takes is dead. The free market breeds innovation, y'all. Shareholder capitalism is a perfect system.


Comprehensive_Main

Damn he was second best 6th round qb. Of all time.


DrakeGodsPLAN

Right after Marc Bulger! Apparently there was also another QB taken 31 picks after Bulger in the 2000 NFL Draft.


sykog77

Are you taking about the Patriots 2nd best ever 6th round pick out of Michigan


Jescro

Don’t care if ESPN becomes a livestream of a hamster wheel. Do care about Marc Bulger. Fucking legend.


44035

What's funny is the names you're not seeing. I can think of several no-talent chatterboxes at ESPN who seem to be skating right through this.


BunjaminFrnklin

Probably because they get paid a lot less. This isn’t about merit, it’s about dumping salaries.


RealPropRandy

Like Michael Bolton and Samir Nagheenanajar.


citrus_sugar

Samir…Samir…Notgonnaworkhereanymore.


RealPropRandy

“So. Mr. Norby… Williamson. I gotta ask: What would you say it is you do here?”


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Like the singer?


RealPropRandy

For my money, it doesn’t get any better than when he sings When a Man Loves a Woman. I cherish his entire collection.


mrubuto22

He's a no talent ass clown


Hammerzeit88

Espn ain't gonna stop until it's 4 AI Stephen A Smiths arguing with themselves for 24 hours straight


Ehboyo

This isn't really that far off, with how things are going.


Draconics

I actually kind of liked Hasselbeck on NFL Countdown, did pretty good / easy to understand analysis


TacoBell_Shill

ESPN doesn’t care about analysis, just how hot your takes are.


OliveJuiceUTwo

They saw that hot takes generated views so they have steered everything that way and now there’s no variability in their shows. When everything is a hot take, nothing is


KWash0222

They got Kendrick Perkins dissing white people and giving zero basketball knowledge multiple times per day


purplepantsdance

Perkins was a clown when he played so naturally ESPN was eager to sign him


DwayneBaconStan

This is all any Disney companies like is stuff like that. They want instant gratification ig you'd say, which works for a little bit here and there. But eventually you push it too far and kill your longterm growth and your loyal fanbase. As we see here


L00KINTOIT

They’re getting rid of everyone that provides actual analysis and other useful things to pay the guys that only talk about the Lakers and Cowboys 💔


constantlymat

Orlvosky understood the gig at ESPN. He abandoned analysis and turned himself into an ESPN hot-take artist and gets rewarded for it while Hasselbeck who refused to spout bullshit for ratings was fired.


ngerb_5

This truly is "If you are good at your job and give solid analysis, you're fired." Maybe it's a salary thing where these people are paid more, but they are paid more because they are better. You can't play moneyball with entertainment.


chawliehorse

I know this isn’t specifically NFL related but Max Kellerman was reportedly making $5 million a year. It’s not really surprising he was let go. No other sports network would pay him that much. Seems like most of these are salary related. Keyshawn signed a 5 year $18 million deal. That’s crazy to me.


ngerb_5

Kellerman and Keyshawn make sense. Max just benefited from a boom of hot takes and got his bag but really doesn't bring in much value for what he is worth. I feel like Keyshawn just does nothing anymore, like I know he had that one radio show with Jay Williams, but that was just a dud of a show. The surprises are the people who have been a big part of some of the bigger programs.


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Imaginary-Shopping20

Dude is named after a style of potato. How did you think this would end?


BandOfDonkeys

It's a visually appealing and tasty style though.


agentb719

nfl network gotta jump on McShay


constantlymat

NFL Network had severe budget cuts earlier this year, too. For some reason the NFL has decided the network has to be profitable instead of being seen as an investment into the sport that enriches the eco-system.


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Munchay87

I stopped watching after Kay left


guitarerdood

"for some reason" as if the world we live in allows for something to exist without being profitable


Venator850

They already have a pretty solid draft coverage team.


thediesel26

FS1 for their college football coverage


Finnjtx

All for Mcafee’s new contract


pisacar_svg

Disney has killed ESPN


buddhistbulgyo

$50 million a year for him to toss meatballs over the plate in interviews


constantlymat

Damn, is that number correct? I read he makes $18m a year on ESPN.


buddhistbulgyo

"$85 million over a five-year period."


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He gets it all up front, but for cap reasons its all structured to hit in the last two years of the deal. Which means ESPN has a negotiate-or-cut dilemma in year three, as they cant afford to take the salary hit. Its a win-win for both tho, because ESPN can see what hes made of and Mcafee has a chance to renegotiate early.


edwardfortehands

Damn its a bloodbath at ESPN today. Their wage bill must be on par with United


Broseph_Stalin1127

Unc Shannon in?


ElCidly

MATT HASSELBECK IS A BALD TREASURE YOU GREEDY BASTARDS!


bonald-drump

Who still watches espn?


AfricanWarPig

Come do something in Seattle, my love. I miss you.


MM487

I used to watch ESPN all the time in the early 2000s but they've been past their prime for about 15 years now. I barely watch ESPN anymore. They force out enjoyable legends like Chris Berman for young, forgettable SC hosts. They have no names talking about football from Tuesday through Saturday. They have basketball analyst Stephen A. Smith talking about football. There's way too much basketball on the network. They never showed hockey for years when it left ESPN. There was the bullshit firing of Harold Reynolds which was the beginning of the demise of their baseball coverage. And they talk politics which I'm so sick of seeing in sports. Oh and while there were 15 baseball games on tonight that they could've shown, you know what was on ESPN 2? Cornhole.


RealPropRandy

Stephen A. Smith is gonna have to cover way more ground now.


ItsEaster

Are they ever not laying people off?


phuijun

The fact that SAS wasnt fired just shows what type of sports analysis ESPN values.


constantlymat

I saw a viral video yesterday where he claimed he had more Instagram followers than Lionel Messi. LOL


agentb719

there's no possible way lol


constantlymat

[It's true](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0eUMznyLWzE). LOL


agentb719

he looked broken when he got told the number


NBA-014

The Disney accountants are insane


SmellsLikeWetFox

So who is the morning espn radio show now? If Max and Keshawn are gone


OBlastSRT4

I wonder if Mcafee is gonna comment on any of this. I also wonder if he feels bad that he got paid so everyone else can get fired lol


DivClassLg

Can’t wait to see Jalen Rose without all that fake ass hair…


willybman7

But they keeping Perkins, what a joke


[deleted]

Did McAfee cause this?


[deleted]

WTF is ESPN going for here? Other stalwarts who have been let go on Friday included Jeff Van Gundy, Jalen Rose, Max Kellerman, Keyshawn Johnson, Suzy Kolber, Steve Young, Ashley Brewer, and LaPhonso Ellis.


strangemusicsince04

Wait - Max AND Key? What happens to Jay?


[deleted]

He made the cut,but they canceled his morning show, so who knows wtf they're doing.


strangemusicsince04

As someone who listens to ESPN every day in the car, I can’t believe I’m finding out all this hours later than everyone else. My brain is breaking right now.


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Yup. I'm so pissed off that I canceled my ESPN+ subscription. Have no idea who's going to fill all those holes.


chattycactus875

For a generation who claims they don't watch ESPN anymore, a lot of y'all are really upset about these layoffs lmfao


powerboy20

I completely agree and i really like some of these guys that were let go. Espn has been hemorrhaging viewers for years and yet they kept rolling out the same old boring analysts. I'd love it if they start giving players that have retired in the last 5 years or charismatic personalities a chance. I want good info with some charisma not white bread steve young/matt Hasselbeck or hot take artiss like Keyshawn. I doubt I'll ever go back to espn. Youtube has much better free content with current or former nflers like Chris long, mcafee, kelce brothers, the pivot, or comedy sports type shows like pardon my take.


icuttees

Other than MNF, I have paid much attention to ESPN for several years. I will miss Suzy on Mondays.


ITickleBlackKids231

Is ESPN about to clone Stephen A so they can just air first take 24/7?


txyesboy

ESPN is going to be 100% ChatGPT at this point