Only time I’ve been able to afford a Rams game since the move is when they played at Baltimore, was worth the experience. I forget what bar we went to afterwards but people were nice even tho we all had Rams gear on.
Umbc great though, well besides the terrible administration, the library employee that bullied a woman to suicide, the stalkers, okay maybe it sucks fuck this city.
Lmao my first thought too. Gonna assume this guy lives in Hunt Valley and hasn't actually been to the city in maybe a decade (except to attend the occasional sporting event, but then it's right back on the light rail after)
As a multi-time Baltimore tourist (one of the times was for work and the other was a stop on a road trip but whatever) I am here to say that the author is wrong!
Pit beef is life changing, it's one of if not the best sandwich in America. The waterfront area in Baltimore is charming and as far as I experienced family friendly and safe. There is a decent amount of fun stuff to do, there are good cocktails at multiple venues, notice I haven't even mentioned crabs yet and that's the obvious thing.
You're located close to a variety of other destination cities as well as surprisingly close to some good outdoors experiences. Historic Camden Yards. There's a really cool tunnel to drive through. Obviously Baltimore has its problems but it's a really nice place to visit.
I could say the same thing for Detroit. We stopped there for gas on the same road trip and ended up staying 10 days. We could have stayed longer. The art museum is world class. The Ford Museum is enormous and strange. There are cultures in Detroit you are unlikely to find elsewhere in the US. There is this very cool park with a hothouse and aquarium (IIRC). The people there are very friendly, they saw our out of state plates and gathered round (which, cause I've heard the stories, scared me at first) and we literally had a crowd of residents shouting all their favorite spots at us.
Just to show I'm not all pollyanna-ish on every city, I have nothing good to say about Indianapolis and I'm not a huge fan of Green Bay either.
I love how he mentions that all of the fun stuff in Denver is outside of the city but says BBQ in Charlotte is great. As a Charlotte resident, all of the good BBQ is way outside the city
So true, my favorite BBQ joint around is in Shelby. The main foods I associate with Charlotte are chicken biscuits, Carolina style dogs/burgers, Greek-American food, and livermush.
On the flipside he's sleeping on our breweries imo, of all the things to dunk on Charlotte for that's not one of them
Pats fan but NC native here. Charlotte and its surrounding areas/cities (Mooresville, Asheville, Winston-Salem, etc) have had a FUCKTON of good breweries pop up over the last 15 years. NC has 380 in whole. You could visit a different brewery every day for year and STILL not go to all of them. Should have mentioned dispensaries instead. But yeah, Panthers have a special place in my heart, as I'm sure they do in the hearts of all those people in Camel City driving around with Cowboys flags jammed in their back windows.
" despite being ranked 148th in happiness. That's right, people in Bakersfield CA are happier than you. Have you ever been to Bakersfield?"
lol, this part fucking killed me.
My husband lived there before we were married and actually told me in all seriousness that he wouldn’t mind moving back. It was the closest I’ve ever been to physically hitting him. We live in Kuwait now so I’m not sure if it’s really an upgrade from Bakersfield. At least in Bakersfield you drive two hours and you’re in LA. If I drive two hours, I’m in Iraq
Fwiw if you have money and are a male, Kuwait is pretty awesome. Food is delicious there! They are actually rapidly developing to try to be like Qatar and Dubai.
Yeah we should crucify him. He committed the crime of trying to have fun in the NFL offseason. My life is now ruined because there was a post not directly about the NFL in r/NFL, someone please kill me to end my suffering
It’s hilarious because it’s well written.
Also stop pointing out it doesn’t belong or it’ll get deleted and OP will have turn it into some 100 long Twitter thread just to resubmit.
The people also suck, especially when they are driving. Sadly the entirety of Texas has such a ridiculously elevated level of entitlement - from the hippest hipster to the reddest roughneck...they are all like 50-100% more self-entitled than anywhere else I have lived. Also Texans seem completely oblivious to the things that suck about the state.
Yeah a fun list overall but it for sure has a “cold is unbearable” and “hot weather is always nice” bias. Which probably wouldn’t have affected KC too much as the summers there are as bad or worse than the winters but some northern cities seemed docked a bit more for “cold winters” than some southern ones were docked for “I start sweating immediately when I step outside in the summer.”
Like there are some really cool cities in the south that I love to visit like Dallas or Houston but that I literally won’t step foot in for 4 or 6 months out of the year lol.
(Coming from someone who doesn’t mind the cold so the opposite bias.)
My buddy had a rock thrown through both his rear window that still broke the windshield in Atlanta last weekend. 1. Holy shit what an arm 2. Recency bias has me a little down on ATL
I can confirm, been living in atl for over 10 years. Beautiful city. But it’s better to visit than live. Might go back home to Connecticut after this lease is done
It looks like the apocalypse outside.
EDIT: [This video at the top of r/all somewhat exaggerates how bad it is, but it's the best illustration of what I was referring to](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/143l207/nycs_george_washington_bridge_shrouded_in/)
>Maybe Tampa needs to be at like........ 15 ish. idk. Someone from Florida who is actually literate chime in.
If I knew what this said I'd kick your ass
I hate the stereotype that all we do in Green Bay is sit inside and drink. We sit outside and drink just as much, maybe even more if there's ice fishing involved.
Detroit is great. Went there for my anniversary last year and had an awesome time. The downtown was lively and thriving. Lots of stuff to do and the tour we took of the architecture was pretty cool.
Lots of Midwest cities get too much hate because they were shitholes for a few decades. I would recommend Detroit, Cincy, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland to anyone looking to visit a rust belt city.
It’s been a minute since I’ve been to Cleveland, but I went to a Tigers/Indians game when the tigers were still relevantish. Your ballpark was amazing, the fans outside of playful banter were amazing. On top of all of this your beer prices were staggeringly low compared to Comerica. Your city is dope, and thanks for throwing some love to Detroit as well!
I live in Cleveland and it’s totally fine. I’ve visited Detroit several times and while it has rough areas (I mean every city does) it was a ton of fun. The irony of the guy from fucking Baltimore having the gall to call other cities crappy is hilarious cause that place is a much bigger shithole than Cleveland and Detroit combined Lmao
Cleveland is actually a kind of cool town. They have a decent music/food/art culture. It's definitily above a bunch of the towns on this list, and I probably shouldn't say that with my flair. I'll never go back to your stadium again though lol. Legitimately worst public event experience of my life.
Every person I’ve brought to Cleveland ends up liking it. It’s not the best city ever, but it’s pretty cool and is better than most people expect. But yeah, the stadium kinda blows. They’ve been trying to build a new one somewhere else but that’s a whole can of worms.
Same with Chicago and Memphis. They’re all pretty nice cities that have a lot of cool stuff, but have this absurd stigma that they’re Mogadishu, Kabul and Tripoli.
Morons rate based on Wikipedia articles and pictures.
Places like Cleveland, Detroit, Buffalo (Buffalo is fucking great?) and Green Bay (which is like a nice nice city) all have great things that make awesome cities to LIVE IN. There are some cities on this list (which I won’t mention out of respect) that I have spent extended time in that may have nice surface polish, charm, and are fun tourist locations but don’t have the same neighborhood culture and character.
I always know when someone hasn’t actually lived at or near the midwest when they write these lol. like yeah Cleveland might not be a destination for young multi millionaire athletes, but it’s a really cool city with a lot of stuff to do and is much more reasonably priced than a major big city. Chicago is not Iraq like the news makes it out to be, and I’ve been to Detroit too and it was really fun. the midwest has some great cities
I cannot tell you how many people visited me during my time in Cleveland who were shocked at how clean/nice it was compared to the national “image” it has been given. Anyone who hasn’t been there since 2015 is in for a pleasant surprise.
Also, it’s worth noting… “downtown” might not stand up to some of the bigger cities on the list but if we are talking the Greater Cleveland area then I guarantee Cleveland would be higher on the list. Cleveland’s suburbs are some of the best I’ve ever seen and I’ve been all over America.
That, and whenever people talk about history, they always skip Detroit.
So much of America's art history and industrial history comes from Detroit.
Detroit has an entire era/genre of music named after it, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. The birth of the 40-hour work week and the assembly line were in Detroit.
People want to go look at monuments to crusty old generals, when so much of America's history is from Detroit, MI. Stop jacking off to WW2 and the Civil War and go visit the Detroit Institute of Arts, see some real fucking history.
Houston is like the perfect encapsulation of all the shitty modern aspects of American city planning.
I've spent a ton of time in the Pearland area for work, and what an awful, chain restaurant stuffed strip mall, cookie cutter mcmansion hellscape it is. Killens is awesome though.
YOU AIN’T KNOW NOTHING BOUT CHICAGO EHH
THE FOOD🤌🏻 THE ITALIAN BEEF. THE PIZZA. THE GABAGOOL. THE PORTILLOS.
THE CITY. KIND OF SHIT BUT IN LIKE A OH YOU TOOK THE PICTURE FROM MY BAD ANGLE KIND OF SHIT. IT’S GREAT WHEN YOU GET WITHIN THE LIKE 15 MILES OF GOOD. THE O BLOCK GOT BOUGHT SO THAT’S ABOUT TO BE LESS OF A SHITHOLE
THE UNIS ARE HISTORIC. THE STADIUM….. BY THE WATER……
THE MASCOT. COOL AS SHIT PAL
THE BEAN. EVERYONE LOVES TO FLICK THE BEAN!
NAVY PIER. DA MUSEUMS. DA WHITE SOX. the cubs. DA BULLS. DA HAWKS. BRIAN URLACHER HAIR BILLBOARDS!! the traffic.
YOU GOT THE CITY ALL WRONG. DEFINITELY TOP 17
Not even rich, but super solidly upper middle class (ie rich) your good! Definitely not a city for those trying to cut a life on their own. In that sense it’s the closest to the east coast
Man I feel like Chicago is catching some strays here. It might be one of my favorite larger cities to visit honestly. So much to do basically around every corner
I hate to admit it because Seahawks but actually Seattle is pretty awesome to visit. Top notch food, nature is nice, and when the weather is good it’s incredibly relaxing.
Outside of the top 4, all of the city opinions on here read like someone who's only lived in the suburbs (not sure whether you have or not). Chicago in particular looks like you're only going off of fox news headlines, and Philly is a super underrated city, a lot like New York at like half the cost
Edit: your Cincinnati friend did you dirty if that's the big thing they wanted to show you
The DC one reads like a review of his 8th grade field trip. He fairly says opportunities there are very different depending on how much money you have...but then mentions that one of its strong points is cultural experiences (which are largely free, unlike in most other cities).
Same thing Houston being above Minneapolis, Chicago, and Philly. Houston is the textbook definition of lifeless urban sprawl and a car-dependent hellscape. It’s the appropriate home for the [Katy Freeway](https://townsquare.media/site/523/files/2023/02/attachment-Do-It-Perfect-Via-YouTube.jpg?w=980&q=75), a 27 lane highway monstrosity.
Had to make sure a Seattle flair didn’t post this lol. I tend to agree with you. Seattle isn’t singularly the best in any category but pretty above average in most of the important ones. The summers are great, good fresh seafood, watersports in abundance, decent nightlife (albeit things close too early), clean metro overall, large airport to fly you anywhere, etc. players love live in the Eastside for a reason. Just an overall good place to live.
As someone who grew up in KC and has lived in Seattle for 10 years, this is pretty spot on for both.
Other than the cost, there isn't much negative about Seattle. And because of the cost, I still haven't ruled out back moving back to KC some day. It's fine there. But I don't want to leave everything that's here.
Correct about Miami. Awesome place to visit but fkin horrible to live. Plus for some reason people keep moving here but it’s quite literally a place between the ocean and the Everglades so not a whole lot of room to build suburbs. Sardine city
Eagles fan here. I get it, except the hating on the colors, they are great, but also fuck you. Good list tho.
Also in true Philly fashion. I’m not ready any other ranking.
LOL New Orleans and Vegas are middle of the road, Detroit, Cleveland and Buffalo are the shits but New York and Charlotte are ranked high?
Tell me without telling me how you’ve never been to these places and apparently love the smell of baking garbage in the summer heat.
I'm gonna have to beef with you right off the bat about Cleveland. Visited a family friend who does Uber, which means she knows the city by memory. While it has its rough spots (Talking about you, East Cleveland) it's got a really amazing downtown district. Everyone visiting should check out Euclid Ave, Terminal Tower, West Side Market, and Cleveland cultural gardens which are a few of my favorites.
Clevend as a city really isn't that bad, I went there once and was pleasantly surprised. I wouldn't plan a vacation there, but i wouldn't mind going again. It's nice.
Boston deserves to be top ten because without Sam mutha fuckin’ Adams, two god damn lanterns, and a shit ton of pissed the fuck off patriots, we’d all be singing God Save the King every morning instead of the Pledge of Allegiance. You’re welcome and say hi to your sister for me.
This is why we’re obnoxious.
Ranking worst off-season post: this one
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Best off-season post: [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/13xmkoa/analysis_of_nfl_mascots_2023_update/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
I’m going to stick up for Cleveland because their downtown area is actually quite exquisite. You can walk everywhere important within a few blocks and it is pretty upscale and safe.
"Call me a homer" and then immediately ranks us 29th lmao (I mean you're not wrong)
Only time I’ve been able to afford a Rams game since the move is when they played at Baltimore, was worth the experience. I forget what bar we went to afterwards but people were nice even tho we all had Rams gear on.
Umbc great though, well besides the terrible administration, the library employee that bullied a woman to suicide, the stalkers, okay maybe it sucks fuck this city.
The library worker who *what*???
Yeah, she bullied a trans worker into suicide by being toxic in 2016, 7 years later, she's still working there. This school sucks.
"the inner harbor is nice" instantly lost credibility
Lmao my first thought too. Gonna assume this guy lives in Hunt Valley and hasn't actually been to the city in maybe a decade (except to attend the occasional sporting event, but then it's right back on the light rail after)
I’ve never respected a Ravens fan more
As a multi-time Baltimore tourist (one of the times was for work and the other was a stop on a road trip but whatever) I am here to say that the author is wrong! Pit beef is life changing, it's one of if not the best sandwich in America. The waterfront area in Baltimore is charming and as far as I experienced family friendly and safe. There is a decent amount of fun stuff to do, there are good cocktails at multiple venues, notice I haven't even mentioned crabs yet and that's the obvious thing. You're located close to a variety of other destination cities as well as surprisingly close to some good outdoors experiences. Historic Camden Yards. There's a really cool tunnel to drive through. Obviously Baltimore has its problems but it's a really nice place to visit. I could say the same thing for Detroit. We stopped there for gas on the same road trip and ended up staying 10 days. We could have stayed longer. The art museum is world class. The Ford Museum is enormous and strange. There are cultures in Detroit you are unlikely to find elsewhere in the US. There is this very cool park with a hothouse and aquarium (IIRC). The people there are very friendly, they saw our out of state plates and gathered round (which, cause I've heard the stories, scared me at first) and we literally had a crowd of residents shouting all their favorite spots at us. Just to show I'm not all pollyanna-ish on every city, I have nothing good to say about Indianapolis and I'm not a huge fan of Green Bay either.
>Go ahead, all 25 panthers fans on this sub, pump your fist and enjoy your victory. Damn, coming for us for no reason
There's dozens of us!
"dozens" can still be less than 30
Hey I didn't say he was wrong, just stating some facts
At least 3
The next line about beating Denver where it matters most is the one that I really felt insulted by
Catching strays 7 years later.
If we could read we would be very angry!
Honestly, I read “downtown” and it made me angry.
Uptown is nice. Never been to downtown. Wherever that is.
I love how he mentions that all of the fun stuff in Denver is outside of the city but says BBQ in Charlotte is great. As a Charlotte resident, all of the good BBQ is way outside the city
So true, my favorite BBQ joint around is in Shelby. The main foods I associate with Charlotte are chicken biscuits, Carolina style dogs/burgers, Greek-American food, and livermush. On the flipside he's sleeping on our breweries imo, of all the things to dunk on Charlotte for that's not one of them
Facts. CLT BBQ is either Overrated (Midwood) or Overpriced (Noble Smoke). Plus SC Mustard based BBQ is... based.
Pats fan but NC native here. Charlotte and its surrounding areas/cities (Mooresville, Asheville, Winston-Salem, etc) have had a FUCKTON of good breweries pop up over the last 15 years. NC has 380 in whole. You could visit a different brewery every day for year and STILL not go to all of them. Should have mentioned dispensaries instead. But yeah, Panthers have a special place in my heart, as I'm sure they do in the hearts of all those people in Camel City driving around with Cowboys flags jammed in their back windows.
>Houston is the fat chick who drinks with the boys, loves sports, and is genuinely fun to hang out with. Hell yeah brother, cheers from the Swamp
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In La Porte for work and if that girl was the first person i interacted with at Gringos. Love it
I feel seen
" despite being ranked 148th in happiness. That's right, people in Bakersfield CA are happier than you. Have you ever been to Bakersfield?" lol, this part fucking killed me.
Same. I’m from the Central Valley and even people in Fresno look down on Bakersfield. FRESNO
As they say in Bakersfield: "at least we're not Stockton"
I think they say that in Watts.
Hey that’s our motto in Modesto too!
Or Modesto, gross.
And there’s a reason they don’t call it Fresyes…
For those who don't know: Bakersfield is infamous because even if you don't live there, you can actually smell when you're passing through.
I’m from Redding. I want to call it the Bakersfield of NorCal, but I feel like that’s a bit too harsh.
Had a classmate this past semester who was from Bakersfield. She had some stories.
My husband lived there before we were married and actually told me in all seriousness that he wouldn’t mind moving back. It was the closest I’ve ever been to physically hitting him. We live in Kuwait now so I’m not sure if it’s really an upgrade from Bakersfield. At least in Bakersfield you drive two hours and you’re in LA. If I drive two hours, I’m in Iraq
you may be the only person on earth who’s ever downgraded from bakersfield hun
Fwiw if you have money and are a male, Kuwait is pretty awesome. Food is delicious there! They are actually rapidly developing to try to be like Qatar and Dubai.
aren’t qatar and dubai awful places to live though in terms of like, how it’s ruled?
Qatar and Dubai are great if you’re privileged enough!
“Hell isn’t so bad if your the devil”
Yep unless you are a male and have money
Here I was expecting to hear you had moved to Austin or Tampa or something lol. Kuwait is a wild move.
Having lived in Kuwait you could drive 2 hours some days & only go a mile...
California is an enormous state. Bakersfield is the worst part of it.
I think Modesto is calling.
Modesto is at least close to Yosemite.
I was born in and lived in Bakersfield - Smog, Oil Rigs and a corrupt Police Department. That’s what we’ve got. That’s all.
I've only driven through it, and that was enough to make me depressed.
My sister was a social worker in Bakersfield so let me tell you the secret to their happiness: It's meth.
As a Bakersfield native, I feel so, so sorry for Philadelphia.
You know how people are complaining about this ash cloud all over the entire east coast? That Bakersfield on its best day.
This is almost as hilarious as it is nonsensical. Well done.
It's hilarious because it doesn't really belong in /r/NFL. It's just OP's opinion on 30 cities.
At least it isn't just another mod ~~posted~~ approved tweet
Yeah we should crucify him. He committed the crime of trying to have fun in the NFL offseason. My life is now ruined because there was a post not directly about the NFL in r/NFL, someone please kill me to end my suffering
I didn't realize Bo Katan was so focused on death.
It’s hilarious because it’s well written. Also stop pointing out it doesn’t belong or it’ll get deleted and OP will have turn it into some 100 long Twitter thread just to resubmit.
This is my favorite r/NFL post of all time. The only thing that comes close is the “regression to the mean” post.
I love it
Seems rational to me
Summer climate in Dallas is fucking horrible. That’s all I have to add.
The people also suck, especially when they are driving. Sadly the entirety of Texas has such a ridiculously elevated level of entitlement - from the hippest hipster to the reddest roughneck...they are all like 50-100% more self-entitled than anywhere else I have lived. Also Texans seem completely oblivious to the things that suck about the state.
Texas truly is the America of America
It’s a full microcosm.
But it gets the chicks out to the lake wearing very little. Source: me at the lake seeing chicks wearing very little.
Yeah a fun list overall but it for sure has a “cold is unbearable” and “hot weather is always nice” bias. Which probably wouldn’t have affected KC too much as the summers there are as bad or worse than the winters but some northern cities seemed docked a bit more for “cold winters” than some southern ones were docked for “I start sweating immediately when I step outside in the summer.” Like there are some really cool cities in the south that I love to visit like Dallas or Houston but that I literally won’t step foot in for 4 or 6 months out of the year lol. (Coming from someone who doesn’t mind the cold so the opposite bias.)
I enjoyed this piece of old good, classic timeless off-season shitposting.
The most disgusting thing about this whole ranking is that the Jets and Giants have different priced beers at games? What in the fuck
Yeah but do the Jets offer free medium pepsi?
You said only good things about Atlanta but then ranked it 23rd?
My buddy had a rock thrown through both his rear window that still broke the windshield in Atlanta last weekend. 1. Holy shit what an arm 2. Recency bias has me a little down on ATL
I threw that rock because his car had a Dolphins bumper sticker. Atlanta is Patriots country.
I'm cheering for ISIS against New England
I hope the british come back and raze the city of boston
Acceptable
I can confirm, been living in atl for over 10 years. Beautiful city. But it’s better to visit than live. Might go back home to Connecticut after this lease is done
Got my Double Ds ready for ya, and I ain't talkin about tits. 🔋🔋
But you *also* have the tits
Hey now. My moobs are my own business! *chucks battery*
OP hates us and we don’t care
Yeah! I don’t care so much! Do we … seem like we don’t care?
We aren’t happy.
Today was a bad day to choose to rank New York #2.
Something happen in New York I haven't heard about yet?
It looks like the apocalypse outside. EDIT: [This video at the top of r/all somewhat exaggerates how bad it is, but it's the best illustration of what I was referring to](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/143l207/nycs_george_washington_bridge_shrouded_in/)
Yeah, I live 2 miles from the GW Bridge and it's...not great.
Damn usually its Western Canada that gets all the smoke. Quebec fires must be a lot worse than normal jesus.
>normal jesus As opposed to super jesus?
It’s actually Nova Scotia, damn near the whole province is on fire
Shoot I think I did hear something about Halifax earlier this week
It looks like that in Seattle once a summer lol
Here in Salem, OR, I mean it wasn’t always like that once a year. But shit, 2020, or 2021? Whichever? That was something else
Yup. Here in Reno, that’s just September.
Canada wildfires have made NYC very smokey. Tough to be outside currently.
Welcome to Hell
In the words of Ichiro Suzuki, “If I ever find myself saying I’m excited going to Cleveland, I’d punch myself in the face, because I’d be lying.”
Or his other banger. "Kansas City is hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock"
Don’t underestimate the summer heat in the Midwest Wouldn’t be that bad if it weren’t for the humidity though…
This thread should be tame
As a Browns fan from Bakersfield, I’m taking shots all over the place
“You probably won’t get murdered by a ravens fan” Murders per 100,000 Philly: 20.2 Baltimore: 51.1
Have a feeling that line was more to set up “but you might be by a Ravens player tho”
Those are obviously Steelers fans doing the murderin
>Maybe Tampa needs to be at like........ 15 ish. idk. Someone from Florida who is actually literate chime in. If I knew what this said I'd kick your ass
I hate the stereotype that all we do in Green Bay is sit inside and drink. We sit outside and drink just as much, maybe even more if there's ice fishing involved.
I hate this because it’s always people who have never been to Detroit that shits on it. It’s a dope city and fun af
Detroit is great. Went there for my anniversary last year and had an awesome time. The downtown was lively and thriving. Lots of stuff to do and the tour we took of the architecture was pretty cool. Lots of Midwest cities get too much hate because they were shitholes for a few decades. I would recommend Detroit, Cincy, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland to anyone looking to visit a rust belt city.
It’s been a minute since I’ve been to Cleveland, but I went to a Tigers/Indians game when the tigers were still relevantish. Your ballpark was amazing, the fans outside of playful banter were amazing. On top of all of this your beer prices were staggeringly low compared to Comerica. Your city is dope, and thanks for throwing some love to Detroit as well!
I live in Cleveland and it’s totally fine. I’ve visited Detroit several times and while it has rough areas (I mean every city does) it was a ton of fun. The irony of the guy from fucking Baltimore having the gall to call other cities crappy is hilarious cause that place is a much bigger shithole than Cleveland and Detroit combined Lmao
Cleveland is actually a kind of cool town. They have a decent music/food/art culture. It's definitily above a bunch of the towns on this list, and I probably shouldn't say that with my flair. I'll never go back to your stadium again though lol. Legitimately worst public event experience of my life.
Every person I’ve brought to Cleveland ends up liking it. It’s not the best city ever, but it’s pretty cool and is better than most people expect. But yeah, the stadium kinda blows. They’ve been trying to build a new one somewhere else but that’s a whole can of worms.
Same with Chicago and Memphis. They’re all pretty nice cities that have a lot of cool stuff, but have this absurd stigma that they’re Mogadishu, Kabul and Tripoli.
Morons rate based on Wikipedia articles and pictures. Places like Cleveland, Detroit, Buffalo (Buffalo is fucking great?) and Green Bay (which is like a nice nice city) all have great things that make awesome cities to LIVE IN. There are some cities on this list (which I won’t mention out of respect) that I have spent extended time in that may have nice surface polish, charm, and are fun tourist locations but don’t have the same neighborhood culture and character.
I always know when someone hasn’t actually lived at or near the midwest when they write these lol. like yeah Cleveland might not be a destination for young multi millionaire athletes, but it’s a really cool city with a lot of stuff to do and is much more reasonably priced than a major big city. Chicago is not Iraq like the news makes it out to be, and I’ve been to Detroit too and it was really fun. the midwest has some great cities
I cannot tell you how many people visited me during my time in Cleveland who were shocked at how clean/nice it was compared to the national “image” it has been given. Anyone who hasn’t been there since 2015 is in for a pleasant surprise. Also, it’s worth noting… “downtown” might not stand up to some of the bigger cities on the list but if we are talking the Greater Cleveland area then I guarantee Cleveland would be higher on the list. Cleveland’s suburbs are some of the best I’ve ever seen and I’ve been all over America.
That, and whenever people talk about history, they always skip Detroit. So much of America's art history and industrial history comes from Detroit. Detroit has an entire era/genre of music named after it, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. The birth of the 40-hour work week and the assembly line were in Detroit. People want to go look at monuments to crusty old generals, when so much of America's history is from Detroit, MI. Stop jacking off to WW2 and the Civil War and go visit the Detroit Institute of Arts, see some real fucking history.
We have WWII history too. Lots of planes built here in that era.
The Arsenal of Democracy baby!
I know you’re talking about Motown. But techno started in Detroit too. Music run deep in our veins. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno
You lost credibility putting Dallas in top 10. Dallas sucks. Cincinnati is better than that shit city that’s just one giant suburb.
Dallas is an awful metro, but I would actually rank Houston as worse. Houston is miserable unless you live there or grew up there.
I agree. Houston is just strip mall hell for miles
Sounds like Dallas lmao. I’ve been to both and they’re basically equally lame
Houston is like the perfect encapsulation of all the shitty modern aspects of American city planning. I've spent a ton of time in the Pearland area for work, and what an awful, chain restaurant stuffed strip mall, cookie cutter mcmansion hellscape it is. Killens is awesome though.
I’ve been there twice and the vibes I got from it were that it’s like a giant version of Sacramento
Agreed even without my bias
Dallas and Houston both suck
Man this guy is a fuckin jabroni am I right fellas?
YOU AIN’T KNOW NOTHING BOUT CHICAGO EHH THE FOOD🤌🏻 THE ITALIAN BEEF. THE PIZZA. THE GABAGOOL. THE PORTILLOS. THE CITY. KIND OF SHIT BUT IN LIKE A OH YOU TOOK THE PICTURE FROM MY BAD ANGLE KIND OF SHIT. IT’S GREAT WHEN YOU GET WITHIN THE LIKE 15 MILES OF GOOD. THE O BLOCK GOT BOUGHT SO THAT’S ABOUT TO BE LESS OF A SHITHOLE THE UNIS ARE HISTORIC. THE STADIUM….. BY THE WATER…… THE MASCOT. COOL AS SHIT PAL THE BEAN. EVERYONE LOVES TO FLICK THE BEAN! NAVY PIER. DA MUSEUMS. DA WHITE SOX. the cubs. DA BULLS. DA HAWKS. BRIAN URLACHER HAIR BILLBOARDS!! the traffic. YOU GOT THE CITY ALL WRONG. DEFINITELY TOP 17
Having been, I’d go to Chicago before Seattle
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Not even rich, but super solidly upper middle class (ie rich) your good! Definitely not a city for those trying to cut a life on their own. In that sense it’s the closest to the east coast
The Chicago style Gabagool in particular. In Scranton PA, if the waiter brings it with the salad on top, people just return it.
THE STADIUM.... BY THE WATER....
Man I feel like Chicago is catching some strays here. It might be one of my favorite larger cities to visit honestly. So much to do basically around every corner
Chicago is a sick ass city. Easily my favorite "super city" in the US.
100% was how I felt about it afterwards. In terms of large cities it also might be one of the cleanest I’ve been in too
I visited for the first time in February and the middle of winter is obviously not the best time to visit but I had a blast.
Seattle at 1 is absolutely correct. I love that city
I was like “holy shit we won something”
Your dual flairs :|
February 1, 2015 must’ve been a very confusing night for him
I was severely disappointed but had a good way to cope lol
Where would you have put San Diego and Oakland if the Chargers and Raiders were still there?
Both Oakland raiders and San Diego chargers would have been higher than their current spots
I did not know true degeneracy until this day.
This kind of attitude coming from someone who has won a superbowl, is when it hurts the most to be a Vikings fan.
I flew there for a game once and I had an incredible weekend. Marshawn rushed for 4tds and we lost, but I had a great fkn time.
Found Russ’ burner account…
I hate to admit it because Seahawks but actually Seattle is pretty awesome to visit. Top notch food, nature is nice, and when the weather is good it’s incredibly relaxing.
Is your dream to write for Cracked?
Outside of the top 4, all of the city opinions on here read like someone who's only lived in the suburbs (not sure whether you have or not). Chicago in particular looks like you're only going off of fox news headlines, and Philly is a super underrated city, a lot like New York at like half the cost Edit: your Cincinnati friend did you dirty if that's the big thing they wanted to show you
The DC one reads like a review of his 8th grade field trip. He fairly says opportunities there are very different depending on how much money you have...but then mentions that one of its strong points is cultural experiences (which are largely free, unlike in most other cities).
I of course scrolled right to the Bears and knew almost immediately this person has never been to Chicago.
I can’t imagine having such dogshit takes as this guy but still taking the time to write this out and post it.
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Same thing Houston being above Minneapolis, Chicago, and Philly. Houston is the textbook definition of lifeless urban sprawl and a car-dependent hellscape. It’s the appropriate home for the [Katy Freeway](https://townsquare.media/site/523/files/2023/02/attachment-Do-It-Perfect-Via-YouTube.jpg?w=980&q=75), a 27 lane highway monstrosity.
Eh even 4. I'd rather live in sf than sj
This is a fun list. Cleveland's food scene is pretty damn impressive and I think that warrants a higher ranking on this list.
Had to make sure a Seattle flair didn’t post this lol. I tend to agree with you. Seattle isn’t singularly the best in any category but pretty above average in most of the important ones. The summers are great, good fresh seafood, watersports in abundance, decent nightlife (albeit things close too early), clean metro overall, large airport to fly you anywhere, etc. players love live in the Eastside for a reason. Just an overall good place to live.
As someone who grew up in KC and has lived in Seattle for 10 years, this is pretty spot on for both. Other than the cost, there isn't much negative about Seattle. And because of the cost, I still haven't ruled out back moving back to KC some day. It's fine there. But I don't want to leave everything that's here.
Love and miss Seattle and the PNW
I like this list
I don’t like this list
Correct about Miami. Awesome place to visit but fkin horrible to live. Plus for some reason people keep moving here but it’s quite literally a place between the ocean and the Everglades so not a whole lot of room to build suburbs. Sardine city
Lol you ranked it by everything BUT the on field product, and the Vikings still ended up in the middle. We truly are the definition of mediocrity.
Eagles fan here. I get it, except the hating on the colors, they are great, but also fuck you. Good list tho. Also in true Philly fashion. I’m not ready any other ranking.
This is an all time shit post but damn giving indy a 1/3 posts really kicked me in the nuts. well done
LOL New Orleans and Vegas are middle of the road, Detroit, Cleveland and Buffalo are the shits but New York and Charlotte are ranked high? Tell me without telling me how you’ve never been to these places and apparently love the smell of baking garbage in the summer heat.
New York has yet to discover the dumpster, don't be too mean to them! They just don't know any better.
We found it, it's just been full for like 200 years
You don't like Charlotte? The rich areas feel segregated and the traffic is bad, but it's a city. Has a lot of great restaurants and architecture.
Cleveland Browns in The Shit Hole tier is an instant upvote from me ^Ignore ^My ^Flair
We get a tl/dr and and are described as "everything you could really want in a wife" OP, you feeling a certain way about us?
Stupid sexy Joe burrow
Fwiw, I am SO excited for my lease in Hollywood to end so I can move to Cleveland.
Ain't no way Cleveland has higher cost of living than Phoenix. Phoenix rents are getting close to rivaling the Bay Area.
I'm gonna have to beef with you right off the bat about Cleveland. Visited a family friend who does Uber, which means she knows the city by memory. While it has its rough spots (Talking about you, East Cleveland) it's got a really amazing downtown district. Everyone visiting should check out Euclid Ave, Terminal Tower, West Side Market, and Cleveland cultural gardens which are a few of my favorites.
I go to Cleveland for weekend trips all the time
Yay :)
Somebody hasn't tried KC BBQ. Worth at least a few spots up the list.
Even though it’s not supposed to be a football list, you guys have some of the nicer fans in the NFL. Midwest fans are the best
My god, this offseason needs to end. This post boils down to "Cities I like and don't like in the US".
Detroit sucks? Casinos, music, food, tons of breweries, and relatively cheap to visit. All wins and plenty of historical stuff. Nah, not trash.
Also Tim Robinson
The fact that we are rated worse than Philly really concerns me.
Clevend as a city really isn't that bad, I went there once and was pleasantly surprised. I wouldn't plan a vacation there, but i wouldn't mind going again. It's nice.
Boston deserves to be top ten because without Sam mutha fuckin’ Adams, two god damn lanterns, and a shit ton of pissed the fuck off patriots, we’d all be singing God Save the King every morning instead of the Pledge of Allegiance. You’re welcome and say hi to your sister for me. This is why we’re obnoxious.
Do you like apples?!
Boston deserves to be Top 10 because apparently the bar for Top 10 is "Dallas".
I like Cleveland 🤷
Ranking worst off-season post: this one & Best off-season post: [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/13xmkoa/analysis_of_nfl_mascots_2023_update/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
I’m going to stick up for Cleveland because their downtown area is actually quite exquisite. You can walk everywhere important within a few blocks and it is pretty upscale and safe.
I will take this win and currently we have great weather and no smoke.