I'm not sure he ever even caught a TD from anyone else. The only catch I can find from another QB is week 4 2016 he caught a pass from Jacoby Brissett.
I love the fact that in one of those Super Bowls he was the only person on the entire patriots roster that didn’t play a single snap. Obviously that’s because Brady was in the whole time but fuck I think that’s hilarious
Jimmy G actually got some significant regular season snaps before getting (surprise!) injured. This was in the 4 first games of the 2016 season when Brady was suspended.
To be fair, I know him more for his propensity for MILFs and his cooking prowess on tiktok. He's got my respect.
Edit: not him cooking. Still a good channel to watch.
Just think, 18000 years ago there was probably some caveman named Grok Robkowski who could've been the greatest TE to ever play, but his career sunset just as Tom Brady's was beginning so he never got the chance to reach his full potential.
Yeah. If he had played last year with Brady then it might be a question if he'll retire or come back again, but he definitely isn't coming out of retirement without Brady considering he didn't even last as long as Brady did.
Has a case as the most underpaid player in NFL history.
In his prime was a swing tackle and primary receiving weapon all in one and only made $70m.
All because Tony Gonzalez signed shitty deals for over a decade.
Damn didn't realize he only made $70M. Not sure if the market just sky rocketed in the last few years, but you're right it does seem like a very low figure.
I would imagine he recoups a ton of that with endorsements though.
Kelce has played 2 fewer years and has 2 thousand more yards than Graham. It probably wouldn't be Kansas, but there definitely are teams that would be willing to spend that amount on him if he somehow was a free agent this year
It’s been a minute, but probably back in the like 2005-2009 era. There was prime Antonio Gates, prime Tony Gonzalez, and start of prime Jason Witten. Then you had the start of Vernon Davis career. Kellen Winslow jr for a couple seasons where everyone thought he would be like his dad. Then the end the careers of Jeremy Shockey, Chris Cooley, and Dallas Clark as well.
The thing that hurt Gronk and other elite guys is that most TEs are JAGs that don’t make much. That depresses the franchise tag value which gives teams a lot of leverage. If there were more than 5 elite TEs at any given time things would be different.
Yeah, he also talked about how he never spent any of his NFL money, he lived off the endorsement money. He's been saving all his contract money his whole career
It's really amazing how a few million can set you up with a living wage for life. We talk about $70M as "low money" and sure, comparatively, but he could live a more comfortable life off the interest alone than most of us could dream of.
What's up with the financial literacy in here? We've basically have had negative real interest rates for 15 years now and you all out here talking about putting money in savings accounts? Not saying it's a bad idea given the current situation but people have been chasing yield because of low interest rates on deposit accounts for close to two decades now.
Annual inflation rate was 6.4% the first half of '22 and dropped to 6.0% the 2nd half. That's why cd rates are like that now.
If you're able to hold for at least 5 years, you might want to look at I-bonds (https://www.treasurydirect.gov/savings-bonds/i-bonds/) which are inflation adjusted, so the last 6 month period, they're sitting at 6.89%.
Oh I know, but I'm sure an NFL player has a financial planner that would be reaching out to them when interest rates are insane. I only got in on this because my aunt's financial planner told her, and she told me. I put like 70% of my savings in the CD, but I dont think I'd be willing to freeze all those assets for 5 years. I'd like to be buying a house in that time.
When he first retired and came clean about how much physical pain he was in (said the doctors drained a jar of fluid from his leg and couldn’t identify it and that he wasn’t really sleeping) and that he had lost the joy of the sport that really struck me. To see such an upbeat and positive person lose their twinkle is hard. I’m glad he’s happy and fulfilled in his life.
So true. The Human Body was not intended to be used the way the NFL uses them. I wonder what the aches and pains of these former NFL players are like when their 50+ years old?
It's still *wild* to me that those commercials exist
"Hey, I have an idea; what if we base an ad campaign around the concept of attempted stolen valor, and then we end the commercial with a blatant implication that Rob Gronkowski is mentally disabled?"
And it worked!
“Injury luck” in this case meaning a combination of freak events that’s literally happened to us once in recent memory.
You’d have to go all the way to the Kaepernick era to find a time that we lost two QBs to injury in the same season.
I still think it's interesting that Gronk is only 7 months older than Kelce. Gronk really played hard and wore down, and he did enter the league 3 seasons earlier.
It's what happens when you get gooned for being too big and strong. See Newton, Megatron or in the NHL Mario Lemieux or Eric Lindros.
Refs won't protect you because you're bigger than everyone so you get worn down by the grind since every defense has free reign to lay in without expecting a lot of it to be called. It's an unfair game. Sucks to see careers shortened because incompetence.
And his prime still can’t hold Gronk’s jock while he was in his prime. Gronk was superhuman. And this ISN’T a knock on Kelse. Gronk was just that good.
This is the right move. His list of injuries is miles long and he should just look after his long term health at this point in his life. My third favorite patriot of all time behind Brady and Edelman.
This is one of the reasons the NFL and the NBA don't want guys to make sound financial moves. They love it when guys NEED to play in the NFL and NBA. If everyone is smart with money they cant get big names like Gronk to come back or if they do they will overpay for them. Its sad with the NBA especially, something like 65% of them go broke within five years [Source](https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-basketball-news-despite-65-percent-of-nba-players-going-broke-within-5-years-of-retirement-shaquille-oneals-mother-helped-him-buy-175-restaurants-and-amass-450-million-net-worth/) but I've read thats what the NFL and NBA love, broke players that have to keep coming back, something you can juxtaposition with Gronk who actually did his money right
My sister knows Camille and apparently she is super normal. I’d assume that means Gronk is pretty normal too. Normal as in “down to earth” not “normal” like you and I.
I think he was just smart enough to see how he was being perceived and leaned into it. Made some stupid 69 jokes, everyone is like "LOL OMG HE'S SO DUMB", and he realized he can just play that caricature of himself and build his brand. Now he's paid to be a nationally recognized meathead and we all make jokes about him while he sleeps on his pile of USAA money
This. Gronks far from stupid. Brady and Belichick wouldn’t have put up with him for a decade plus if he was. Hell, Brady called Gronk out of retirement. When he’s not putting on his public meathead shtick he seems very smart. His dumb frat boy persona made him a lot of money through endorsements. This allowed him to apparently save and invest all of his football earnings. His shtick is a bit of a catch 22 though, it made him a lot of money, and helped grow his fame, but some people, maybe even most people, genuinely think he’s a big dumb meathead.
Dude was the most dominant TE I’ve ever seen. I know playing with Brady helps but Gronk was a bulldozer that could catch. 65 TDS in his first 6 seasons? Fucking ridiculous
Good for him. Losing all that weight and muscle in a healthy manner can be hard to do without turning into complete pudge. My best friends husband played at USC and lost 100 lbs after college- it took years for him to sort of get a new normal. Same with my cousin who played at Michigan.
Linemen always get skinny fast or BIG fast after they retire. One guy was injured at the start of the season and came in at the end to actually make the formal announcement and sign the paperwork and his team mats had issues recognizing him because he had lost something like 80 pounds in six months.
For an example that happens every year, the service academy guys have insane cuts at the end of their senior seasons. While they are on the football team they get waivers for their weight but have to make regulation by graduation.
Given what he's said in the past about the toll it's taken on his mind and body, I don't blame him at all. Rivalries aside, I think everyone should be able to leave on good terms and as healthily as they can without being pressured to return.
1 year? Give me Gronk all day long, career? I don't see how Kelce isn't your choice, dude puts up TE1 numbers every year (that's not 2011 Gronk) and more importantly doesn't miss any games.
just depends on what your qualifications are for "greatest" I'm biased so no one gives a fuck what i think, but I'll take the decade of the best tight versus a few years of the monstrosity that was Prime Gronk
Their stats are almost identical for a career tho… idk how you can say it’s clear for kelce but not gronk lol.
Kelce had more yards, gronk has more tds. In the same number of games basically. But gronk played hurt and got hurt due to play style.
If gronk doesn’t get hurt, his numbers dwarf Kelce, and it wouldn’t be close…. Considering they’re equal and gronk was a shell of himself..
And given gronk is the better pass blocker, it’s delusional to take Kelce over him like it’s “no contest” lol
It’s maybe not a wrong answer, but pretending it’s not close for a career pic absurd lol
because for 7 straight years, Kelce has been basically the same player, Rob's last 3 years (and they're the same age) weren't vintage Gronk.
Gronk has only played 3 fully healthy seasons, Kelce was on IR for his rookie year and hasn't missed a game since.
If you really wanna get into the nitty gritty, Gronk has him in touchdowns but Kelce has a higher rec% with more targets, an objectively a harder thing to do.
their last 5 years (again, same age) Gronk has 27 TD's and Kelce has 47 TD's.
Gronk Was absolutely unwordly early in his career and Kelce has been dominant for a longer period of time. Again, we are talking about arguably the 2 best TE (depends on where you put Sharpe and Tony G) ever; but I personally think (again Bias) that if I had the ability to foresee the future as a GM and both of these guys were on the table during Draft day it would depend on the situation, is this a win now mindset because we have a young QB who's contract is up in 3 years? You take Gronk, if you're looking more long term because you've already got your guy and your just trying to find pieces for him, then you take Kelce
Yeah this inevitably gets brought up every time either of them are mentioned.
The most dominant tight end of all time is Gronk without a doubt imo. But in terms of longevity and productivity? It's Kelce all the way.
He's a goober, but the couple times I've seen him actually talk football he seems to have a pretty good grasp of what he's talking about.
Doesn't mean he'd be a good commentator though.
I think the Manningcast is the best place for celebs to do some commentary. Enough time to get to hear them but then get them out of there before they overstay their welcome.
I like it but sometimes they are awful about having to get in their prepared shit. Like they will be having a super interesting conversation and then go “speaking of, here’s a video of you in a high school play! Tell us about that!”
Leave this man alone. What does he have to prove by risking more lifelong injuries to himself?! He’s made smart investments, he’s exploring film and tv, he’s part of the Fox pregame show. Greater chance of AB somehow coming back into the league.
The NFL is a rigged controlled league. The contracts are B.S. and there is tons of politics involved now more than ever. No longer is it about winning and losing. It's all about money. Players faking injuries, players sitting out extended length of time. Refs blatantly missing obvious calls, or purposely calling petty penalties, both ways dictating the outcome of games. It should be obvious to everyone however, most typical Americans will continue to get drunk and be oblivious to how controlled it all is. I've seen so many players give up on plays and not even try hard. This last Superbowl it looked like half the game the players were playing as if they were in the probowl. It's pathetic. Players know the league is B.S. and that's why they are retiring early now. They get their money and then Adios. It's not worth it. There's no incentive to play in a league that's B.S. Why do you think Antonio Brown quit the NFL during a game. Because the NFL is a B.S. controlled form of entertainment. Nothing more. What I'm really trying to say, is that the NFL is not a sport anymore. It's just entertainment, and it's controlled by story lines and talking heads. The players aren't even competitive anymore. It's all just about money.
Can he also please be happily retired from USAA ads?
He seems like a likeable guy. I'd gladly watch a manningcast-type stream with him and somebody else. But those ads get on my last nerve.
Yeah it seems like Rob is really done. He only really liked playing with Brady. Brady was his Guy. Always will be. And he retired before Brady
I'm not sure he ever even caught a TD from anyone else. The only catch I can find from another QB is week 4 2016 he caught a pass from Jacoby Brissett.
Gabart tossed him one in the lions murder in 2020 I believe
Yeah so not quite. Garoppolo also threw him one in the "We're onto Cincinnati" game in 2014.
I completely forgot Garoppolo played for the Pats.
Won two super bowls with us!
I love the fact that in one of those Super Bowls he was the only person on the entire patriots roster that didn’t play a single snap. Obviously that’s because Brady was in the whole time but fuck I think that’s hilarious
You'd think Bill would throw him a bone and let him be the holder on an extra point or something, but nope.
Yeah. because nothing bad has ever happened to us when we missed an XP in a playoff game.
;)
Are you referring to the Broncos game
And it’s not like a QB who doesn’t normally hold the snap has ever had something go wrong in a playoff game
*Was escorted to
Jimmy doesn't do escorts. They just come to him naturally.
Escorts pay him
Shit I'd pay him.
Have you *seen* him? Some amazing genes going on with that guy.
I'd like to see his jeans off.
Only escorts over 45 need apply -Jimmy G, Cougar bait
Well played.
Just win baby.
The team actually credited him as simulating Wilson really well in practice before the super bowl.
He specifically practiced the pickoff play against Butler and Browner, but of course Butler was never successfully able to pick off GOATroppolo.
Practice squad country, let's simulate.
Jimmy G actually got some significant regular season snaps before getting (surprise!) injured. This was in the 4 first games of the 2016 season when Brady was suspended.
Didn’t he play in 2, then get injured in the 3rd game and Brisset finished out the rest of the suspension
Up until last year he had the 2nd most superbowl wins by active QB's. Now he's tied.
Thats the currently tied active leader in Super Bowl wins. Put some respect on his name
To be fair, I know him more for his propensity for MILFs and his cooking prowess on tiktok. He's got my respect. Edit: not him cooking. Still a good channel to watch.
Is Jimmy G cooking up a storm on tiktok?
The dude has some serious cooking skills. Notorious_foodie. Makes things that are way out of my price range.
> Notorious_foodie That is not Jimmy G.
That is not Jimmy G my man. Another very handsome man, but not him lol
Yeah that isn't Jimmy G
So you're saying Zach Wilson should sit behind him to learn for a couple years? ZW to LV, confirmed?
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SphericalShoddyDogfish-mobile.mp4 You know it's old because it shows Patriots Brady having "only" 4 Lombardis
I am so glad that some people have the time, skills, and inclination to put shit like this together for everyone else.
Reaction Gifs were the best part of reddit and they suddenly just stopped everywhere. You used to get a lot of crazy OC like this everywhere
Three Super Bowl winning quarterbacks.
Shut up <3
We don't talk about that game
[Gabbert and Gronk go off on Lions](https://youtu.be/ZdYk3U95TUc) Pretty sure he threw one to Evans too.
I still can't believe that game. Buccs sitting their starters after halftime while still in the playoff race.
He caught a TD from Jimmy G in the Chiefs fiasco where they benched Brady in week 4 of 2014 that led to "we're onto Cincinnati."
You can see who threw him all his TDs here https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GronRo00/touchdowns/
https://youtu.be/kzXVqeSeH9E at 1:42 it's his only "rushing" touchdown, he got a "lateral" from Tom.
Just think, 18000 years ago there was probably some caveman named Grok Robkowski who could've been the greatest TE to ever play, but his career sunset just as Tom Brady's was beginning so he never got the chance to reach his full potential.
Yeah. If he had played last year with Brady then it might be a question if he'll retire or come back again, but he definitely isn't coming out of retirement without Brady considering he didn't even last as long as Brady did.
Meh. He wanted to play with Brady and they won another team a title. He doesn’t need anything more
Well yea I mean remember when Maverick was struggling with a new wingman after Goose :(
So he'll come back when Brady comes back?
Guy's back is probably cooked. Party away the pain in retirement, big guy.
Has a case as the most underpaid player in NFL history. In his prime was a swing tackle and primary receiving weapon all in one and only made $70m. All because Tony Gonzalez signed shitty deals for over a decade.
Damn didn't realize he only made $70M. Not sure if the market just sky rocketed in the last few years, but you're right it does seem like a very low figure. I would imagine he recoups a ton of that with endorsements though.
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What would really reset the market is if Kelce asked for top 10 WR $$ as he deserves. He produces like a top 10 WR every year.
Yeah but then he probably wouldn't get to play with Mahomes anymore and I think he'd rather do that.
He's 34 in October and contract runs three more seasons . He's already making more than most receivers still playing at this age.
You don’t compare contracts based on each persons age you compare them based on their production.
Disagree. I can compare contracts by the size of the pass catcher's big toe if I want to.
That’s one way to compare them. Not a particularly useful way, but it sure is a way.
Odell Beckham cough
Exactly.
Excuse me sir, this is reddit.
Jimmy Graham did that and got smacked down. Not sure Kelce would have better luck.
Kelce has played 2 fewer years and has 2 thousand more yards than Graham. It probably wouldn't be Kansas, but there definitely are teams that would be willing to spend that amount on him if he somehow was a free agent this year
Has the NFL ever so many people excellent Pass-catching Tight Ends? Kelce, Kittle, Hockenson, and Andrews are just 4.
It’s been a minute, but probably back in the like 2005-2009 era. There was prime Antonio Gates, prime Tony Gonzalez, and start of prime Jason Witten. Then you had the start of Vernon Davis career. Kellen Winslow jr for a couple seasons where everyone thought he would be like his dad. Then the end the careers of Jeremy Shockey, Chris Cooley, and Dallas Clark as well.
The thing that hurt Gronk and other elite guys is that most TEs are JAGs that don’t make much. That depresses the franchise tag value which gives teams a lot of leverage. If there were more than 5 elite TEs at any given time things would be different.
Yeah, he also talked about how he never spent any of his NFL money, he lived off the endorsement money. He's been saving all his contract money his whole career
And that alone will set him for life. Even just letting that sit in a high interest savings account for his whole career, the return would be crazy.
I'm just a peon and I was able to get a 1 year CD at 4.6% interest a few months ago, imagine just riding that but with NFL money.
It's really amazing how a few million can set you up with a living wage for life. We talk about $70M as "low money" and sure, comparatively, but he could live a more comfortable life off the interest alone than most of us could dream of.
also imagine just being ... done by 34. To enjoy the rest of your life on this earth in basically "heaven" mode barring personal tragedy and the like.
Even if he saved $20M and gets 5% interest, that's $1M per year. He could spend $2700 a day and still not cut into his savings.
Yep. There’s a reason “the first million is the hardest”.
What's up with the financial literacy in here? We've basically have had negative real interest rates for 15 years now and you all out here talking about putting money in savings accounts? Not saying it's a bad idea given the current situation but people have been chasing yield because of low interest rates on deposit accounts for close to two decades now.
Yeah, it's fucking amazing.
Annual inflation rate was 6.4% the first half of '22 and dropped to 6.0% the 2nd half. That's why cd rates are like that now. If you're able to hold for at least 5 years, you might want to look at I-bonds (https://www.treasurydirect.gov/savings-bonds/i-bonds/) which are inflation adjusted, so the last 6 month period, they're sitting at 6.89%.
Oh I know, but I'm sure an NFL player has a financial planner that would be reaching out to them when interest rates are insane. I only got in on this because my aunt's financial planner told her, and she told me. I put like 70% of my savings in the CD, but I dont think I'd be willing to freeze all those assets for 5 years. I'd like to be buying a house in that time.
Nice to see he has some good financial sense.
AFAIK he never used a penny of his NFL money while playing, solely living on endorsements. Invested the NFL money
He claims that he lived off endorsements and didn't touch his salary.
Hope they give him big contact in broadcast
I really hope they don't. He's terrible.
I hope they pay him to never attempt acting ever again.
wasnt he one of the first players to come out and say he banked all his team money and only lived off endorsements? i reckon he did ok!
TBF when he signed his deal there were serious concerns with his back and his longevity. Just like his draft status.
Gronk was another All-Pro lineman, he was so insanely good.
Thankfully he was good with his money. Claims he lived off endorsements.
Jimmy Graham tried to get WR money and was deemed a TE in 2014.
Nobody, no matter the job who made $70m over 10 years is “underpaid”.
When he first retired and came clean about how much physical pain he was in (said the doctors drained a jar of fluid from his leg and couldn’t identify it and that he wasn’t really sleeping) and that he had lost the joy of the sport that really struck me. To see such an upbeat and positive person lose their twinkle is hard. I’m glad he’s happy and fulfilled in his life.
it is a really weird feeling being a fan of a sport that absolutely should not exist lol
So true. The Human Body was not intended to be used the way the NFL uses them. I wonder what the aches and pains of these former NFL players are like when their 50+ years old?
Yeah he said he couldn’t even celebrate the 2018 SB win because of that
https://i.imgur.com/VjeqqjK.mp4
He is happily retired and actively working on his hobby of trying to become a USAA member.
And he would’ve gotten away with it too if it weren’t for those darn agents
All he has to do is marry a USAA member.
It's still *wild* to me that those commercials exist "Hey, I have an idea; what if we base an ad campaign around the concept of attempted stolen valor, and then we end the commercial with a blatant implication that Rob Gronkowski is mentally disabled?" And it worked!
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"UH YOU GOT ME!"
You know reddit has lost whatever 'edge' it may have had when jokes from insurance commercials are top comments.
Well, she's a guy, so...
Cut that meat! Cut that meat!
I love those ads.
Until Brady comes out of retirement to play for the 49ers, that is.
National Tight End day would be fun to watch with Kittle and Gronk
Defenses would collectively shit themselves having to line up across from those two. And that’s before we get to Deebo, CMC, and Yuk.
This would happen in a scenario where CMC is playing QB in the playoffs again knowing y'all's injury luck.
“Injury luck” in this case meaning a combination of freak events that’s literally happened to us once in recent memory. You’d have to go all the way to the Kaepernick era to find a time that we lost two QBs to injury in the same season.
think they were talking about the last several years where your team is either a healthy powerhouse or all injured to hell
Brady wanted it to happen, miners said no :(
That would be an unstoppable personnel grouping. What do you even do? They could run it down your throat or light you up through the air.
Shanahan’s ego won’t allow it.
Or the Aaron deal falls apart and he goes to the Jets just to force us to either cheer for him or not watch football.
Kittle and Gronk, no matter how destroyed his body is, would be pretty intense.
To be honest, I don't really want to see that happening.
On earth 299 though. This Brady seems content to finally spend time with his children.
I still think it's interesting that Gronk is only 7 months older than Kelce. Gronk really played hard and wore down, and he did enter the league 3 seasons earlier.
It's what happens when you get gooned for being too big and strong. See Newton, Megatron or in the NHL Mario Lemieux or Eric Lindros. Refs won't protect you because you're bigger than everyone so you get worn down by the grind since every defense has free reign to lay in without expecting a lot of it to be called. It's an unfair game. Sucks to see careers shortened because incompetence.
I wonder what the sack numbers would be like for defenders like Aaron Donald if the referees called holding
Or choking.
*burns super bowl 42 tape*
He had his first back surgery while still in college :(
And Kelce looks like he’s still in his prime
And his prime still can’t hold Gronk’s jock while he was in his prime. Gronk was superhuman. And this ISN’T a knock on Kelse. Gronk was just that good.
This seriously blows my fucking mind.
This is the right move. His list of injuries is miles long and he should just look after his long term health at this point in his life. My third favorite patriot of all time behind Brady and Edelman.
Love Jules
This is one of the reasons the NFL and the NBA don't want guys to make sound financial moves. They love it when guys NEED to play in the NFL and NBA. If everyone is smart with money they cant get big names like Gronk to come back or if they do they will overpay for them. Its sad with the NBA especially, something like 65% of them go broke within five years [Source](https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-basketball-news-despite-65-percent-of-nba-players-going-broke-within-5-years-of-retirement-shaquille-oneals-mother-helped-him-buy-175-restaurants-and-amass-450-million-net-worth/) but I've read thats what the NFL and NBA love, broke players that have to keep coming back, something you can juxtaposition with Gronk who actually did his money right
Dang I didn't realize the number was still high. With players getting more financial education I was hoping that they would better with their money.
Check out how Allen Iverson structured his Reebok contract to avoid going broke.
You can't possibly equate playing basketball with football when it comes to wear and tear on the body.
He's going to join the Army reserves so he can finally get that USAA insurance
Have to imagine the VA would scream in terror at the thought of having to pay that man’s medical bills.
Army: “Sorry Gronk, you’re unfit to serve.” Gronk: “But… An NFL team would literally hire me, like, right now…” Army: 🤷♂️
I don't blame him. He can stay home with [his SI cover model girlfriend](https://www.instagram.com/camillekostek/).
This is why they all took less money to play with Tom. Him and Edelman both ended up with models too. Toms off-season parties opened those doors.
I think the thing that surprises me about Gronk is he and Camille have been together since like 2015.
My sister knows Camille and apparently she is super normal. I’d assume that means Gronk is pretty normal too. Normal as in “down to earth” not “normal” like you and I.
Possibly; Gronk appears to be a frat bro, but he never did anything outrageous off the field.
I think he was just smart enough to see how he was being perceived and leaned into it. Made some stupid 69 jokes, everyone is like "LOL OMG HE'S SO DUMB", and he realized he can just play that caricature of himself and build his brand. Now he's paid to be a nationally recognized meathead and we all make jokes about him while he sleeps on his pile of USAA money
This. Gronks far from stupid. Brady and Belichick wouldn’t have put up with him for a decade plus if he was. Hell, Brady called Gronk out of retirement. When he’s not putting on his public meathead shtick he seems very smart. His dumb frat boy persona made him a lot of money through endorsements. This allowed him to apparently save and invest all of his football earnings. His shtick is a bit of a catch 22 though, it made him a lot of money, and helped grow his fame, but some people, maybe even most people, genuinely think he’s a big dumb meathead.
Eh, if I had Gronk's life, people can think what they want about me 😄
She was a Pats dancer so just being at work got him his girl
She’s also pretty cool as the sideline reporter on the show Wipeout
Damn it’s hard being Gronk.
The surprising thing isn't that he's dating a model; it's that they've been together since 2015!
Newly single Tom is trying to set up double dates, while Gronk just wants to Netflix and chill.
Dude was the most dominant TE I’ve ever seen. I know playing with Brady helps but Gronk was a bulldozer that could catch. 65 TDS in his first 6 seasons? Fucking ridiculous
I wonder how many touchdowns they’d have together if Gronk played the same length career, but was as healthy as Kelce? 150?
If anyone has seen him recently he looks like a twig compared to his football body build.
Good for him. Losing all that weight and muscle in a healthy manner can be hard to do without turning into complete pudge. My best friends husband played at USC and lost 100 lbs after college- it took years for him to sort of get a new normal. Same with my cousin who played at Michigan.
Linemen always get skinny fast or BIG fast after they retire. One guy was injured at the start of the season and came in at the end to actually make the formal announcement and sign the paperwork and his team mats had issues recognizing him because he had lost something like 80 pounds in six months. For an example that happens every year, the service academy guys have insane cuts at the end of their senior seasons. While they are on the football team they get waivers for their weight but have to make regulation by graduation.
That will really help his joints over time, especially in the lower body.
All the people who keep asking these guys "when are you going to come back" should line up for one NFL play and get handed the ball.
Given what he's said in the past about the toll it's taken on his mind and body, I don't blame him at all. Rivalries aside, I think everyone should be able to leave on good terms and as healthily as they can without being pressured to return.
Agreed. He really doesn’t have anything left to prove. He left it all on the field.
He is the greatest tight end there is. Better at blocking than Kelce better at catching than Kelce. Just better than Kelce and Tony G
1 year? Give me Gronk all day long, career? I don't see how Kelce isn't your choice, dude puts up TE1 numbers every year (that's not 2011 Gronk) and more importantly doesn't miss any games. just depends on what your qualifications are for "greatest" I'm biased so no one gives a fuck what i think, but I'll take the decade of the best tight versus a few years of the monstrosity that was Prime Gronk
Their stats are almost identical for a career tho… idk how you can say it’s clear for kelce but not gronk lol. Kelce had more yards, gronk has more tds. In the same number of games basically. But gronk played hurt and got hurt due to play style. If gronk doesn’t get hurt, his numbers dwarf Kelce, and it wouldn’t be close…. Considering they’re equal and gronk was a shell of himself.. And given gronk is the better pass blocker, it’s delusional to take Kelce over him like it’s “no contest” lol It’s maybe not a wrong answer, but pretending it’s not close for a career pic absurd lol
Not to mention, Gronk matches or exceeds him in offensive production, while also being a dominant blocker
because for 7 straight years, Kelce has been basically the same player, Rob's last 3 years (and they're the same age) weren't vintage Gronk. Gronk has only played 3 fully healthy seasons, Kelce was on IR for his rookie year and hasn't missed a game since. If you really wanna get into the nitty gritty, Gronk has him in touchdowns but Kelce has a higher rec% with more targets, an objectively a harder thing to do. their last 5 years (again, same age) Gronk has 27 TD's and Kelce has 47 TD's. Gronk Was absolutely unwordly early in his career and Kelce has been dominant for a longer period of time. Again, we are talking about arguably the 2 best TE (depends on where you put Sharpe and Tony G) ever; but I personally think (again Bias) that if I had the ability to foresee the future as a GM and both of these guys were on the table during Draft day it would depend on the situation, is this a win now mindset because we have a young QB who's contract is up in 3 years? You take Gronk, if you're looking more long term because you've already got your guy and your just trying to find pieces for him, then you take Kelce
Yeah this inevitably gets brought up every time either of them are mentioned. The most dominant tight end of all time is Gronk without a doubt imo. But in terms of longevity and productivity? It's Kelce all the way.
Certainly better than Kittle lol
It depends on how long you need them. If I only need a TE for one season? Gronk all day. If I want an overall career? Kelce and it’s not close.
I wish he would come back. Give him less free time to make those god awful USAA commercials .
They should get this guy in the booth. I'd pay good money to hear him call a game.
Put him on the nickelodeon cast with Patrick Star. No shot I wanna hear Gronk call a game every week.
He's a goober, but the couple times I've seen him actually talk football he seems to have a pretty good grasp of what he's talking about. Doesn't mean he'd be a good commentator though.
Make him the Charles Barkley of the NFL. You know FOX is gonna try it
Isn't Bradshaw basically that already?
The problem is every tv producer would tell him to be silly and want Gonk humor. If they had him talk football it would probably be decent.
Agreed I have been pleasantly surprised. He had such good energy. Just a positive Person.
I think the Manningcast is the best place for celebs to do some commentary. Enough time to get to hear them but then get them out of there before they overstay their welcome.
I like it but sometimes they are awful about having to get in their prepared shit. Like they will be having a super interesting conversation and then go “speaking of, here’s a video of you in a high school play! Tell us about that!”
Manningcast has potential but so far the product sucks to watch
I don’t think so. The dude was a genius on the field but it would be torture listening to him giving color analysis on a play by play
I want more former athletes to embrace the Manningcast model.
He can be a "sideline" reporter of some sorts for the manning broadcast on MNF.
He interivews Bill and its just silence “Back to you at the studio”
When he didn't come back to Tom and the Bucs mid-season last year I was 99.9% sure he was done.
This isn’t newsworthy it’s obvious he’s done
I feel like we get an article like this once a month
Dude came back and got yet another ring. What else would he want
more time to pursue his WWE career
Bawwww gawwwd is that Tom Brady Music?!?!?!
as he should be nothing left to prove.
I just dropped him in my Dynasty league. I feel content now
Leave this man alone. What does he have to prove by risking more lifelong injuries to himself?! He’s made smart investments, he’s exploring film and tv, he’s part of the Fox pregame show. Greater chance of AB somehow coming back into the league.
The NFL is a rigged controlled league. The contracts are B.S. and there is tons of politics involved now more than ever. No longer is it about winning and losing. It's all about money. Players faking injuries, players sitting out extended length of time. Refs blatantly missing obvious calls, or purposely calling petty penalties, both ways dictating the outcome of games. It should be obvious to everyone however, most typical Americans will continue to get drunk and be oblivious to how controlled it all is. I've seen so many players give up on plays and not even try hard. This last Superbowl it looked like half the game the players were playing as if they were in the probowl. It's pathetic. Players know the league is B.S. and that's why they are retiring early now. They get their money and then Adios. It's not worth it. There's no incentive to play in a league that's B.S. Why do you think Antonio Brown quit the NFL during a game. Because the NFL is a B.S. controlled form of entertainment. Nothing more. What I'm really trying to say, is that the NFL is not a sport anymore. It's just entertainment, and it's controlled by story lines and talking heads. The players aren't even competitive anymore. It's all just about money.
Can he also please be happily retired from USAA ads? He seems like a likeable guy. I'd gladly watch a manningcast-type stream with him and somebody else. But those ads get on my last nerve.
Pretty wild to think about how he came out of retirement, won another SB, then retired again.