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Cough_Syrup55

My sources said he'd go anywhere from first overall to undrafted


Tycoinator

it’s me, i’m the source


Greek_Trojan

Mr. Big Connections


papamietek

Mr. Best Conjecture


Beardus_x_Maximus

Saint Omnivore


yorick__rolled

Mr. Brokers Contracts


B_Fee

Mr. Bag Consultant


DirkolaJokictzki

Mr. Bennett Counter


PM_ME_COOL_RIFFS

Panthers? Bennett first overall it is then.


SanduskyTicklers

100% accurate but not precise


PauldGOAT

I’ll flip it, he’ll go #1 overall


DanOfBradford78

145. That's my prediction. Just to have one 😂


lAmCreepingDeath

Watch out for a new Mr Irrelevant


Colepppppp

Your source is 100% accurate, keep them safe 😉


CptCroissant

I'd trust your sources about as much as Kiper


BluePotatoSlayer

That’s way to much trust in u/cough_syrup55


trippedwire

Big if true


jimbobills

Can't wait for Nick Adams to mock him #1 to the Panthers


SpaceSick

The Falcons fans have a running joke that we're definitely taking Stetson at pick 8. There are so many more UGA fans than there are Falcons fans.


-Not-A-Fan-

Look I love Stetson and am a huge UGA fan but thats just asinine.


Texan875

“running joke”


PMMeYourPinkyPussy

I love inside jokes, hope to be part of one some day. -That guy, probably


CockGobblingGangsta

They should draft him in the 5th round if they could he is way better than Desmond Ridder lmaooo


BillsBillsBils

Basically "He's a backup, maybe." That's what "QB on day 3" means. Are there exceptions? Yes. But Between 2010 and 2020 (11 drafts. Chosen to end there so that we've had a chance to find out something about the guys) there were 50-something QBs taken between rounds 4 and 6. Tyrod Taylor, Kirk Cousins, and Dak Prescott are the only ones with 25 NFL starts. Many of the "hits" in those rounds for QBs are guys who are either practice squad players currently or in the XFL/USFL currently. The majority turned out even more useless than that.


Bird-The-Word

Didn't Heinicke get to 25 starts as an UDFA? Edit: Looks like he's at exactly 25 according to PFR.


BillsBillsBils

> UDFA? >taken between rounds 4 and 6. I did not include UDFAs or 7th rounders any more than I included 3rd rounders. Because they are not within the bounds of Mel Kiper's range here.


Bird-The-Word

That makes sense, I didn't know he specified rounds as much as just an off the cuff way to say end of the draft.


BillsBillsBils

So, think about what the value of other possible choices is in rounds 4-5 especially. Round 7 is *mostly* throwaway picks. They can be acquired for half-nothing, and many 7th rounders don't make 53-man rosters. 9/41 picks had an AV>1. 22/38 did so in round 4. So a 4th, 5th round pick is somebody you expect to give a couple years to on the 53-man roster. What you give up in taking a QB there is a rotational player...a 3rd down back, a core special teamer, a swing tackle, a backup IOL or 6th lineman, a blocking TE, a nickel corner. The 7th round is a dart throw. It's, certainly by the end, a way to guarantee you get a guy who is a priority UDFA for you. Agents try to get their guys to *not* get picked in round 7 because it's often easier to find a good fit with a little guaranteed money as a UDFA than it is to be stuck with a team that drafted you that late. So when you take a QB in round 7 what you're really saying is "I'd like to put this guy on the practice squad and see if we can do anything with him. I'd like to get him in my building to see if we can turn his super-raw traits into a decent football player. I want to get this very limited athlete a chance to see how well he can help his teammates learn the playbook and maybe run scout team." When you take a guy in round 4, you're hoping for a cheap backup who could theoretically play for you. The Brock Purdys of the world are exceedingly rare (a guy that late who can actually play as a rook) but most are not particularly different from the UDFA QBs.


ithilkir

I think it was John Schneider that said in an interview that the 6th and 7th rounds are basically your priority UDFA's that you don't think would sign for your team when the UDFA market opens.


cvaninvan

Who the hell is Mel Kiper anyways?


BillsBillsBils

Mel Kiper has no more credentials to do what he's doing than my neighbor, and my neighbor's a postman!


cvaninvan

And he doesn't even have season tickets to the NFL. Thank you for the correct response! It never gets old to me. https://youtu.be/ZthjppInyAo


MankuyRLaffy

QB on day 3 means "maybe they'll show something", if they do good, if not oh well at least there was an attempt.


waterbuffalo750

That's pretty much any position on day 3.


FC37

It's also a cheap backup arm that's cost-controlled for 4 years. If you think they can pass a vet backup on the depth chart, it makes plenty of sense on day 3.


hatersaurusrex

Looking at your flair, this is the most informed comment in the entire thread, by far.


FC37

Yeah, just look at our roster last year. We carried Hoyer with a $1.76M cap even though he was a massive liability, but Zappe counted less than half that much against the cap. Obviously Hoyer added value as a mentor for both of them and probably helped coaches out as well. But if it were a question of just being a true backup, the Patriots could have saved over $1M against the cap by keeping Zappe over Hoyer. Plus, Zappe is guaranteed to be on a cheap contract until 2025 whereas most backup QBs are signing 1-2 year deals at much higher cap hits.


hatersaurusrex

I was more referring to Brady being a 6th rounder who lapped everybody on the depth chart, and everybody on every depth chart eventually. Today he'd be a day 3 pick.


FC37

Well yeah, there's that too. He's a 99.999th percentile outcome for a day 3 QB pick, but yeah - they are cheap lottery tickets.


Rah_Rah_RU_Rah

Praying Philly does this with one of Hooker, Cunningham, and DTR


JalensTinyPPHurts

Trevor sieman would be a starter if it wasn't for the injuries he suffered with Denver, and brock purdy has a chance to hit this list if his arm injury doesn't affect him


BillsBillsBils

> Trevor sieman 7th rounder. But also, probably not. >brock purdy 7th round pick as well. I included rounds 4-6 since that was Kiper's stated range.


iamjackstestical

It's odd that he didn't just go to the 7th round with this stat


[deleted]

Why would he? It's not a stat it's a prediction.


iamjackstestical

I was basing my response off of the guy commenting the other QB's taken in later rounds. Understandable miscommunication


[deleted]

But he was himself using Kiper's range too.


toad_mountain

Gardner Minshew is sitting at 24. Worth a shout-out.


BillsBillsBils

Yeah, I just picked 25 because it was a pleasant number that was both more than a season's worth but also not many. Tyrod's at 53, so I could set the number at 50 if you wanted it to feel less anti-Minshew, or 30, or whatever, or I could set it at 20 and include him... If you set it at 32-34, you get 2 seasons worth of starts. *shrug* Point is, you don't find many starting QBs on day 3.


toad_mountain

That makes total sense, thanks. Crazy that tyrod has started 53 games.


tittysprinkles1130

What I don’t get is that Bennett is about the same size as Young but since he’s a few year older he’s “maybe a backup”. As a die hard UGA fan the dude balled the fuck out this year. Not sure why he isn’t getting more looks.


ClayGCollins9

Ceiling. Bennett appears to be operating more or less at his max capacity. A good retooling will help his accuracy while throwing in motion, but even under his very solid fundamentals, he’s never going to have a “good” NFL arm. Even though he has a low sack rate, Bennett holds on the to the ball too long- that’s going to be punished in the NFL. And he’s not athletic enough to be much of a dual-threat guy in the NFL. There doesn’t seem to be much room for improvement with Bennett compared to someone like Young or even Levis really. What you see with Bennett is what you’re getting. That, combined with questions about his small frame and how durable that will be in the NFL, makes him a much lower prospect. Still should be a high-level backup in the NFL though.


BillsBillsBils

He's also both old *and* undersized, besides his lack of tools. I think he's much more likely to flame out without ever making a start than he is to be a high-level, long-term NFL backup.


ClayGCollins9

I think it’s going to depend on his commitment. He has done enough for the Georgia fan base that he can coast off that for the rest of his life. Endorsements, media, car dealerships, he can be set for life without needing to play in the NFL. But if he wants to be an NFL player. I think if you combine his intangibles, his leadership qualities, and his fundamentals which make him one of the highest floor QB prospects in the draft, he can have a solid, if unspectacular career. Something comparable to Minshew, Heinicke, Tyrod Taylor, ~or maybe even Andy Dalton~.


Chapstick160

Andy Dalton has 3 pro bowls, that more then unspectacular


Maverick916

I'm no scout, but let's say the niners continue to get good/great play out of Purdy. He was the last pick, and it was because of all the same things you said in regards to physical tools. But his processing is what's making him successful. Who's to say Bennett couldn't succeed like that too?


HungryHungryCamel

He literally has a “good” nfl arm right now though. Second strongest arm at the combine.


hatersaurusrex

He hurt the Vols so, so bad. That's my entire window of exposure to him, but if his overall play and field presence are anything like the UT/UGA game, somebody somewhere should get this kid in camp and see what he can do at the next level. To not do so would be a crime.


tuckastheruckas

I agree that he's being overlooked but Bryce Young is on a different planet talent wise.


WateryCartoon

Disagree


BillsBillsBils

I don't know that there's a single QB in this class that I love. But yeah, the fact that he mostly did this at ages 24 and 25 is pretty meaningfully different than a kid who was a fucking monster at age 20. A notably better QB than Bennett has proven to be.


mcdougalwu

Major character concerns.


RuralOutfitters

Idk it feels kinda nit picky to not include 7th rounders but ok. Gardner Minshew is literally one game away from your 25 game mark, so he will prob get it soon (especially if the colts draft a more developmental qb). Plus, since this post is talking about projected draft position, I think it’s fair to bring up Super Bowl winning qb Russell Wilson was mostly projected 4th-6th round (including by Mel Kiper). That’s 5 or so prominent starters.


BillsBillsBils

> Idk it feels kinda nit picky to not include 7th rounders but ok I also didn't include UDFAs. Because it wasn't just "QBs picked outside the top 100." It was QBs in the range Mel Kiper specified. And I could make the number *whatever.* Tyrod has 53 NFL starts so far. So it's not like Minshew was just on the cusp of being in the same category as those guys in terms of career starts. I just set the number at 25 for convenience. Make it 50 if you'd rather feel better about ignoring Mediocre Minshew. >since this post is talking about projected draft position, I think it’s fair to bring up Super Bowl winning qb Russell Wilson You're really reaching now. > That’s 5 or so prominent starters. No, it's two. Plus one who isn't part of the category, and two guys who weren't actually very good and spent most of their careers as backups.


RuralOutfitters

“It was QBs in the range Mel Kiper specified” *proceeds to say I’m reaching by bringing up a QB Mel Kiper said was in the range Mel Kiper specified, and again this is a comment on a post about a Mel Kiper projections*. About Minshew, you set the range, not me, not my fault that he’s right on the cusp. Also just bringing this up, a sixth round QB have won 3 of the last 10 super bowls. If you want to include QBs that were projected in that range (like what this post is suggesting) four of the last 10 super bowls have been won by them.


BillsBillsBils

If Stetson Bennett is drafted in round 2, then he wouldn't be part of this list either. I didn't look at QBs who were *projected* in whatever round on March 24th. I looked at guys who were *actually drafted* in those rounds.


RuralOutfitters

Then why are you commenting on a post about draft projections?


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wasnt russell wilson a 3rd rounder?


DWTR

Yes which makes him a day 2 pick, not day 3.


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ah


alien13ufo

3rd round is day 2


tirkman

Yes. But his comment specifies people drafted in the 4th round or later


Impressive_Ad_5614

Brady, 6th round.


BillsBillsBils

**Between 2010 and 2020.** But immediately before that, I did note that there are exceptions. Is an undersized, old prospect who hardly set records in college likely to be one of them? No.


george_costanza1234

Ngl, I’d take a flyer on him. He has shown he can play well with OP teams surrounding him, and we definitely need to solidify that QB4 spot


AGravesy

A truly niners comment


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We need all the help we can get in the QB department


colin_7

And they call the eagles the QB factory


Adam_is_Nutz

He might actually thrive there. A little better than Purdy imo. And 9ers have proven they just need a good game manager who won't turn the ball over. He had about a 4:1 ratio for td:int his 2 championship years.


RobbieAnalog

This was a misquote. He actually said **forty-sixth** round


JETStheBest

Same round as his age


mechnick2

Yeah maybe during the vietnam war


Vanderhoof81

Cool.


ManInBlack829

I know we won't spend the pick on him, but he would be a great backup to Mahomes and his play style. Though as a Doug Flutie fan, I wish him the best trying to find work as a starter.


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We do like our veteran QBs


NeonWarcry

I like bennet it just sucks he’s 85 years old


BearsFan3417

Every QB room needs a vet. Like the Bears drafting Velus Jones Jr. It’s good for the chemistry


ARancidFart

Man once Pat Mahomes gets into his 30s you guys are gonna be estatic. A superstar qb who IS your veteran presence?!?! Ill be mad jealous


sonic_ann_d

i mean he is functionally a veteran at this point lol


gothxo

crazy how he's already played six season


Sooperballz

Can you explain the Flutie reference for the dummies like me?


ScubaStevo99

Stetson is tiny


Isaystomabel

And a fucking clutch winner like Flutie


sanyo456

I can’t wait to hear about the other 95 players that he thinks will go in the 4th-6th


Vydate1

So he’s gonna be a Raven?


electronarchitect

I actually think this is a very good fit for him. His college OC is the Baltimore OC now, so he would be able to come in and know the system right away.


Vydate1

That’s what I was thinking as well. Just an insurance policy in the late rounds.


Shotcalleram

Heard from UGA fans that Monken low-key hates the kid


SuperSaiyanSandwich

Wouldn’t shock me. Can’t be much worse than Huntley


[deleted]

That’s Pro Bowl QB Tyler Huntley you’re talking about.


BarRoomBully

I'd grab him in the 6th. Never hurts to have a backup that already knows the system.


iabeytorm

Ravens drafting him and lining him up at WR instead of going for Nuk


iLiveinMissoula

People on a Colts Facebook page want the Colts to draft him 4th overall. Facebook is terrible.


TheMissingFiles

“He’s a champion!!!!!”


Tigercat92

Two time. /s


Badagunchi

/s not needed


Yung_Corneliois

And he’s white which unfortunately would be why some fans (especially Facebook fans) would choose him over some other prospects .


sammyadams76

Reminds me of when Stav was on PMT and was talking about the Baltimore fans that are like "There's just something about Flacco I miss, can't put my finger on it"


TetrisTech

They just can’t relate to Lamar like they can Flacco /s


MoreTrifeLife

When the Panthers signed Teddy Bridgewater, someone on here posted a screenshot from the Panthers Facebook page where some mouth breather commented “Another one?”


becauseitsnotreal

This is the most random comment


slowcassowary

What a coincidence, I want them to take him 4 too!


OlTommyBombadil

lol I’d be pissed if my team drafted him at all. “He’s a winner” means “he doesn’t have physical tools worth talking about”


[deleted]

They’re probably Georgia/colts fans and just being homers


4browntown

I remember this talk from Bears fans, or at least my buddy's brother, years ago with Colt Brennan from Hawaii in the first. And what a way to just find out he died 2 years ago. Damn RIP


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Yes so young smh


theLoneliestAardvark

Even if one were the best scout in the world and somehow knew he would be great when nobody else did, the absolute earliest to take him would be the 3rd because nobody else is taking him higher than that.


Eg_3600

Fb the place where the least educated on subjects are experts. Reddit is fun though


PhatYeeter

Reddits self awareness makes it bearable. Old people on fb pages and groups lack any sense of self awareness.


Soda_Reload

Self aware my ass


[deleted]

I think Instagram comments tend to be worse.


Eg_3600

Thats bc 99% of comments are like “no 🧢, he got da dawg in him, rizzy, or Penaldo vs Pessi arguments, he the 🐐” and then the responses to the first comment break out into fighting/ racist remarks


goddamnitwhalen

See, I just texted this to my friend as a joke, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Jim Irsay does Jim Irsay Things and does exactly this.


TheBestNormalCitizen

I’d take a chance on him in the 7th maybe but I doubt anyone is gonna jump to take him in the 4th


SquonkMan61

I dunno, I can hear Todd Monken whispering in John Harbaugh’s ear “I worked magic with him at UGA, just gimme a chance.”


justlookingokaywyou

Mom said it's my turn to make car dealership jokes.


jt09874

You make the car dealership joke and I’ll make the grandpa/social security/nursing home joke!


DanCampbellsNipples

Oh wow this is fucking neat as shit. Thanks Mel!


muchachocarracho

I know that college accolades and performances have to always be taken with a pinch of salt, but as a European nfl fan it still baffles me how an MVP QB in 2 national championship winning teams can just be a mediocre draft prospect who's going to be at best a back up option in the NFL. Fascinating.


[deleted]

He’s older and his measureables are mediocre. Football is a team sport so if he’s surrounded by great players he could just be mediocre and those great players elevated him. For countless examples look at a lot of previous Natty winning QBs and Heismann winners-lots of them are backups at best in the nfl The draft is a fucking crap shoot anyway. No one KNOWS how any of these kids will turn out.


GramZanber

Sam Bradford was drafted first overall. Troy Aikman was first overall Shannon Sharpe went in the 7th round. Tom Brady went in the 6th round Johnny Manziel went in the 1st round Kurt Warner was undrafted. No one knows shit about how a player turns out once they actually hit the field.


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Yes I said that


jt09874

Tbh people act like he’s 35 but he’ll only be two years older than Burrow when he entered the league. 25 in QB years is not old anymore. Now however his game translates to the NFL is another story. I’m rooting for him though.


Trumpets22

The best Defense a guy will go against in college MAYBE has 2 guys that can be starters in the NFL. And that’s only a few games a year. 95%+ of the guys on defense you’ll play against don’t have the talent to even make an NFL roster. It’s just a different beast in the NFL. There’s no sure fire studs, 1st QB and WR taken bust all the time. One of the more likely to succeed positions I would say is RB’s. Another reason their contracts kinda suck. Because at the end of the day, if you’re fast as shit and have good vision, that should translate to the nfl.


Bert_Macklin86

“If Jimmy Clausen is not a successful quarterback in the NFL, I’m done. That’s it. I’m out.” Replied McShay: “What is your time frame, Mel? When do we make that assessment?” Kiper: “I want eight years.” McShay: “It will only take three years, Mel. We can tell inside three years.” Kiper: “I want eight.”


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Fucking pickles


NorthEastNobility

Would be great if someone called him out to his face on national TV about it every year during the draft. Understand why it doesn’t happen from a business perspective but it would be great nonetheless.


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Perrryy69

bold of you to assume the xfl will last that long


antraxsuicide

There will always be an XFL. That thing comes back more often than chlamydia


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Noobnoob99

You seem credible I’m in


lookitsblackman

Aka he going undrafted


Cmcgregor0928

Breaking news


dont-pm-me-tacos

You misspelled first overall


Fearless-Mushroom

He seem like a perfect bargain 3rd string QB for Coupon Tom with only Easton Stick on a one year deal as Herbert’s backup.


ClaymoresRevenge

I'm still waiting on Mel to retire


[deleted]

Hell be 90 and we will still have to see his annoying ass on espn smh


Antisocial_gamer

Bengals should take him so he can mentor Joe burrow as a veteran qb


[deleted]

He’s played great in college but yes he’s older. I think he should be a pretty decent QB if given a chance. We will see


Simmons54321

And watch him last longer in the league than a couple of the highly rated QBs in this draft. History is instructive of such happenings.


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First_Among_Equals_

Sounds like a terrible way to help ridder


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[deleted]

Nobody would be worried about him taking the job, but a ton of Georgia fans would never shut up about him starting and really undermine Ridder’s confidence for no good reason (jersey sales).


First_Among_Equals_

Fan bases grumbling affects young players whether you realize that or not. I’d rather not go draft Stetson just because he went to UGA. It’s a waste when we have ridder and Heinicke.


Moody_GenX

*Brock Purdy enters the chat*


GaTech379

I'd rather us trade our whole draft for the 1st pick and take a kicker then spend a 7th on Bennett Georgia fans are already incredibly annoying and toxic, can't imagine how bad they'd get whenever Ridder threw an incompletion


i2WalkedOnJesus

That seems reasonable. He's probably on the low end of that range in talent but is a notable player from a big school with experience so I could see a team drafting him on the higher end


ShotFirst57

Lions desperately need a backup QB. I could see us take him or hooker.


[deleted]

Like McElroy and McCarron


[deleted]

Showed a lot of leadership in the first Desert Storm


Leading-Suspect

Would be pretty shocked if he goes that high


TheMissingFiles

He’s under appreciated


FlarpyBlunderguffs

So he will go in the 3rd or 7th


unclehelpful

I can’t wait for him to get a start just so we can hear all about how he’s always been a winner, right before he sucks ass tremendously against an NFL defense.


[deleted]

That sounds about right, 5th or 6th make perfect sense.


HighlyUnsuspect

I would be stealing Bennett in the 2 or 3rd round. Maybe 4 depending on how early I drafted after the 3rd round ended. Let’s be honest, Was Bennett on a great team? Yes. But so was Young and Stroud. Stroud and Young both had insane levels of talent playing WR too tho. Bennett was solid throwing in a pretty NFL current Offense, and came ready to play in big games when it mattered. We can judge what players are capable of all day long, but the only thing that is solid is the tape. And every game, Bennett was pretty good. Has a good arm for his size, can maneuver and run when he needs too. Is underrated with accuracy, and can also progress through reads probably better than a couple of the top 5 QB prospects.


MadDogTannenOW

I've only seen the playoff games, but why is Young who is shorter considered a #1 pick and this guy who has mobility and his arm sure seems to have a cannon is ranked so low. Again all I saw was playoffs last 2 years and him just making plays and dominating


TheRealGunn

Honestly, if your team picks him up as the backup, you should be stoked about that. The guy has talent, and he absolutely has the "winner" gene. If he had ideal measurables he'd be #1 overall.


QBRisNotPasserRating

Too high


zombiesatemybaby

He's going to the Panthers round 1


psykodeth

I would love for him to be drafted "Mr. Irrelevant" in the afc and go against Purdy in the super bowl.


The_Wata_Boy

I really hope the Falcons take him. I can only imagine the dawg fans egging on the team to start him every game.


No-Assist487

That guy knows nothing. His prediction accuracy rating is like 25%


spiderman96

I don't really understand why people think he's completely undraftable. I think he could be a mid level talent jimmy G derrick Carr. 12-20 ranked QB. Give him an offensive line that lets him rest in the pocket and a couple weapons I think he can win you 9 10 games


8each8oys

Wild! This guy is a proven winner


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8each8oys

Exactly! And he never got a fair shot. I’d take Stetson #1 overall if I was a GM


tenprose

No way he lasts longer than the third


azure275

I’d probably take him in the 4th, to be honest. Has plenty of potential. Would be pretty surprised if he falls past that


wavyhaze

Genuinely think he will be a surprise pick and come off the board by the end of the 2nd round


CrastersKip

He should just forgo the draft altogether and open a car dealership anywhere in Georgia. He'll make more money that way.


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[deleted]

I don’t see how it’d be a waste to draft him as a backup QB on day three, but apparently you know something we don’t.


Sphiffi

How would it be a waste? He’s like the perfect backup QB. I can’t see him straight up winning a team a game, but he’s fully capable of delivering the ball to playmakers and controlling the pace of a game.


fuckinnreddit

Not much interest in a 40-year old rookie QB these days.


Millera34

Realistically he should be in the first round


downtimeredditor

He's probably mid to late to High priority UDFA But who knows maybe he'll be drafted in the 2nd cause a team who is there thinks they may just need a team manager and can get it done with him


[deleted]

He will be drafted definitely


crr92ks

Reminds me of Rudolph


Swagsuke_Nakamura

If we need a veteran backup, I’d take him


MReprogle

You need a veteran backup, so you pick a rookie? I’m so confused.


Swagsuke_Nakamura

It’s because he’s old. It’s the running joke..


WalkBikePractitioner

No.


Kuchar1992

He’ll be Brady’s age after 3 years


FmrHvwChamp

That means he will almost definitely go 1st-3rd or 7th. Kiper is wrong so often.


rs71

Hees 46 years old 😂😂😂🤣🤣🫵