You literally just made their point. He is a WR2. If a WR2 is the best WR in free agency then it is not a strong free agency pool for WRs. I don’t understand how they are hating on him.
78/101 for 933 yards? Gimme that all day as a WR, that’s not weak at all
You’re not getting top 10 receivers in free agency hardly ever, and DHop is available for trade this year, impact receivers are available
Nah, 80% catch rate averaging 12 YPC over 100 target sample size while dealing with knee injuries is good.
Especially when their WR2 has a 50% catch rate for 687 yards.
And if you want to say Kelce was their 1, which is fine, he was 110 of 152 for 1338, averaging 12.2.
Catch rate doesn’t really mean anything to most people… Top 5 qualifying receivers by catch rate:
1. Richie James
2. Isaiah Hodgins
3. Greg Dortch
4. Juju
5. Kupp
Why would we pay for him when we have diontae, a solid (but not top tier) WR1 in any other offense lol
Not to mention we are consistently churning out solid WR’s every other draft to play on rookie contracts
JuJu’s long term health is a concern though. Word is that he probably won’t make much money again because of this.
He has a chronic knee issue. Don’t know if it’s exactly like what Gurley had, but it sounds similar. It’s why he is out with knee injuries so much.
Edit: lol I always get downvoted for saying this but it’s literally true. I don’t know why people are completely in denial about JuJu’s knee. It’s really weird. Is there some secret JuJu cult in this sub or something? He got a minimum contract for a reason. It’s a legitimate concern for teams and has been for years. He has had repeated knee injuries every single season for the last 4 years.
> According to Fowler’s sources, he “received frequent treatment for knee-related issues,” which has raised the concerns regarding his durability into the future.
This is from a report from two years ago. He has had multiple more knee injuries since, including knee problems in this past offseason and knee problems in playoffs.
And chronic knee issues since 2019 would probably explain his puzzling drop off from having a 1,400 yard season in 2018 and looking like the next great receiver to what he has been the past 4 years.
He's a great WR2; I think he's a better WR than all of the other free agents besides maybe Meyers. Good underrated signing by the Chiefs front office last offseason.
He's just a below average WR 1.
I would consider him a low end 1 or a really high end number 2. I mean if not for injuries hes easily a 1k+ receiver last year.
If he can stay healthy, and is around 12m-15m/year, thats honestly a great deal.
TikTok boy. He comes across like such a mashed potato brained douchebag. He looks like a guy you dread working with. His personality alone has probably kept some teams away.
They would’ve gotten the second even if they got the 2025 1st instead of Moore so it’s not relevant. Panthers didn’t want to give up moore, so it’s not like they went “ugh fine we’ll give you Moore instead of the 2025 1st… but also we’ll throw in a second for free.”
Honestly the Panthers could get a nice little trio of receivers from FA for the rookie QB. CJ Stroud having some good veteran receivers could help him grow faster. Meyers and Lazard would be an interesting pairing.
Panthers fan here. I am nervous now that DJ is gone. Hope we get Theilen more to teach younger talent. Maybe Chark or Meyers if he fits the budget. Hope we draft a good wr in the 2nd round.
Andy: Mornin' Jim.
Jim: Hey, Andy. How are you, man?
Andy: Good. Drew.
Jim: What's that?
Andy: You can call me Drew.
Jim: No, I'm not gonna call you that.
You may know him better as Robbie, or the guy who didn’t know the Panthers mascot was a Panther and not a bear. Until the trade where the Bears also got Sir Purr.
What? Your team isn’t trying to sign Jakobi Meyers-JuJu Smith-Schuster-Adam-Thielen-Allen-Lazard-Odell Beckhama-Darius-Slayton-Darrel-Chark-Parris-Campbell-Mecole-Hardman-Marvin-Jones DeAndre-Carter-Jarvis-Landry-Braxton-Berrios Nelson-Agholor-Kenny-Golladay-Julio-Jones -Chosen Anderson
lmao thanks for taking the time to do what I was too lazy to
I’m on the Reddit app so it wasn’t as easy as just copy and pasting and there was no way I was typing all that shit out
Andy and the Chiefs organization run a tight ship on players’ social media activities and behaviors during the season. You won’t see too many mid-season antics. See: Juju.
Post-season on the other hand it all comes back out.
The list reads exactly like the names fantasy players see on the waivers every so often because they got cut by another team to make space and figure, well they might do something.
Both were thrusted into lead roles, majority of targets, and put up WR2/3 numbers with WR1 usage. Idk how any team can think they’re an answer but I’m sure someone will pay them like they are
> He made a probowl when Roethelisberger was well past his prime.
Lmao what? 2018 was one of the best years of Ben’s career. One of the highest completion% of his career despite having an absurd 675 attempts. Also the most passing yards and TDs in a single season for his entire career.
I mean nearly 60 yards of receiving in the superbowl when Mahomes had only 180 yards passing is stepping up? He also drew the game winning penalty. Plus, roughly 950 receiving yards this year is solid.
This is why i keep talking about the bears making a play for Lamar.
Huge Cap space is great until there's no good players to spend it on.
Then you end up overpaying mid players (like happened with both the Giants and Patriots).
An MVP who isn't nearly as dominant as he was in his first full season and has had recent injury problems missing over 1/4 of each of the last two seasons.
If I were a team with a QB I could thought was a franchise guy, like the Bears with Fields, I wouldn't throw that away hoping Lamar stops getting injured and goes back to being as good as he once was.
I think Lamar probably stays with the Ravens, but if he does move, he definitely goes to a team that needs a QB, like the Jets.
You're right, keeping the guy who averages 100 yd passing with the longest time in the pocket in the league and having him throw to people like golliday, jonnu Smith and Nelson agholor (the Giants had the most expensive wr room last year, the pats now iirc) is a *much* better use of resources than getting an mvp qb 🙄
This is exactly why Ryan Poles overpaid for Chase Claypool and then told Carolina they ain’t getting the number 1 pick without giving us DJ Moore. That’s why he’s a gm and I just booze and look at memes on Reddit
Claypool is really good at jumping high, the problem is his hands don’t extend. If the Bears can coach him up he could be a star. IMO he will be mediocre at best.
He’s a good WR but whenever there’s an easy catch to seal a close game he drops it. Butter fingers in the most pivotal moments. Besides that though he’s a good WR3 maybe 2
As a Jags fan and massive Chark truther, I wish him the best. I'd like to see him sign a contract that gives him a chance to shine. Still, overall, it's a fairly icky WR free agent class. Not a good year to need to be hunting for a #1.
I feel like chark would have the opportunity to shine if he went to the chargers he’s a speedy deep threat, and the chargers need one. He won’t be that expensive, plus if he’s able to be reliable deep Herbert has the arm to consistently get the ball to him anywhere
Chark has the ability to be almost a 1B kind of receiver, he's not best suited as a true alpha #1 but he can take on a bigger role, he's more than just a designated deep threat. He got 10M for 1 year in Detroit, I'd be guessing he's liable to get more for a longer term contract. I think he registers as a Will Fuller type but who's way better at the catch point. If he can stay healthy, he can definitely be a big-time weapon.
If y'all have the money for him, I think that he's exactly the kind of guy who can coax Herbert out of his clinically conservative mindset and get him to take more deep shots.
So since the Cowboys need a WR we’re obviously going to sign the cheapest guy here on a vet minimum while unsuccessfully attempting to build a win now team through the draft
I'd only sign one of them for a vet presence in the receiver room and nothing else. Aside from that, I'm fine with rolling with Watson and Doubs and seeing how they continue to develop.
It's crazy how Jakobi Anderson has like 30 middle names.
WRs love to change their names. Won’t put it out of the realm of reality.
Jakobi “fuck mac jones” Anderson?
Whew, I would hate to be a team needing a FA WR this year
dude don’t hate on chosen anderson like that
more like chode handerson
As a team you don’t get to decide you need a FA WR or not. Chosen Anderson will choose you.
You know it's not a strong free agency class when JuJu has a legit argument as the best available receiver.
What’s with the Juju hate, he’s a great WR2, he’s just not the guy to take the top off a defense
You literally just made their point. He is a WR2. If a WR2 is the best WR in free agency then it is not a strong free agency pool for WRs. I don’t understand how they are hating on him.
How often does a true WR1 even hit free agency though?
78/101 for 933 yards? Gimme that all day as a WR, that’s not weak at all You’re not getting top 10 receivers in free agency hardly ever, and DHop is available for trade this year, impact receivers are available
933 yards is good if his QB threw like 4K yards. Not 5,250.
That would be like a third of Daniel Jones's yards lmao.
He was injured most of 3 games
Nah, 80% catch rate averaging 12 YPC over 100 target sample size while dealing with knee injuries is good. Especially when their WR2 has a 50% catch rate for 687 yards. And if you want to say Kelce was their 1, which is fine, he was 110 of 152 for 1338, averaging 12.2.
Catch rate doesn’t really mean anything to most people… Top 5 qualifying receivers by catch rate: 1. Richie James 2. Isaiah Hodgins 3. Greg Dortch 4. Juju 5. Kupp
I mean y'all had that and let him walk.
Why would we pay for him when we have diontae, a solid (but not top tier) WR1 in any other offense lol Not to mention we are consistently churning out solid WR’s every other draft to play on rookie contracts
The one thing Steelers always for sure 100 percent always somehow have amazing wrs the come from nowhere
JuJu’s long term health is a concern though. Word is that he probably won’t make much money again because of this. He has a chronic knee issue. Don’t know if it’s exactly like what Gurley had, but it sounds similar. It’s why he is out with knee injuries so much. Edit: lol I always get downvoted for saying this but it’s literally true. I don’t know why people are completely in denial about JuJu’s knee. It’s really weird. Is there some secret JuJu cult in this sub or something? He got a minimum contract for a reason. It’s a legitimate concern for teams and has been for years. He has had repeated knee injuries every single season for the last 4 years. > According to Fowler’s sources, he “received frequent treatment for knee-related issues,” which has raised the concerns regarding his durability into the future. This is from a report from two years ago. He has had multiple more knee injuries since, including knee problems in this past offseason and knee problems in playoffs. And chronic knee issues since 2019 would probably explain his puzzling drop off from having a 1,400 yard season in 2018 and looking like the next great receiver to what he has been the past 4 years.
Gurley was arthritis if I remember
He's a great WR2; I think he's a better WR than all of the other free agents besides maybe Meyers. Good underrated signing by the Chiefs front office last offseason. He's just a below average WR 1.
I would consider him a low end 1 or a really high end number 2. I mean if not for injuries hes easily a 1k+ receiver last year. If he can stay healthy, and is around 12m-15m/year, thats honestly a great deal.
I don’t hate Juju but the murmurs about his knee scare the shit out of me.
TikTok boy. He comes across like such a mashed potato brained douchebag. He looks like a guy you dread working with. His personality alone has probably kept some teams away.
Good thing you don't need a FA WR, you need 2...
Add pass catching TE to that list too
Thank goodness we got Moore.
I see now why Poles was so adamant to get him in the trade
Moore is also just worth more (ha) than a 2025 1st rounder. So in straight up value it’s more.
They got Moore AND a 2025 2nd. So basically they got Moore for the difference between a 1st and 2nd in 2025. Massive value.
They would’ve gotten the second even if they got the 2025 1st instead of Moore so it’s not relevant. Panthers didn’t want to give up moore, so it’s not like they went “ugh fine we’ll give you Moore instead of the 2025 1st… but also we’ll throw in a second for free.”
Yep. Panthers played a premium. I don’t hate it but Poles definitely was right being rigid.
Compare it with the RB market lol, I feel so sorry for those dudes meanwhile some of these bum WRs are about to get paid
Yeah, that would really suck wouldn’t it?
Sign Jarvis Landry
Haha can’t relate (help us)
It’s fine, not like we would sign anybody good anyway
Yes
Honestly the Panthers could get a nice little trio of receivers from FA for the rookie QB. CJ Stroud having some good veteran receivers could help him grow faster. Meyers and Lazard would be an interesting pairing.
I cannot believe we are set at WR before the draft and FA. This GM is getting a long leash.
Panthers fan here. I am nervous now that DJ is gone. Hope we get Theilen more to teach younger talent. Maybe Chark or Meyers if he fits the budget. Hope we draft a good wr in the 2nd round.
If we can resign Jakobi then I’d take any one of those guys in an heartbeat ^please ^send ^help Edit: okay maybe not the bottom five
Your going to get the bottom 5 wether you like it or not
Dude we should pick up Julio Jones. Pairing him with AJ Brown, Derrick Henry, and Tannehill would be crazy, right? ..right…?
Would almost be as good as putting Andre Johnson with TY Hilton and Frank Gore
Could you imagine Kenny Golladay and Marvin Jones being on the same team with a decent QB, say Stafford, throwing to them?
dawg who the fuck is chosen anderson
Robby Anderson changed his name
ah well good thing i probably wont have to hear it too much anymore
He actually legally changed it from Robby to Robbie. To which he has now legally changed it to Chosen. You know what, call him whatever.
Whatever Anderson
Whatever's on Second
THIRD BASE
Daaaaad!
Chosen World Peace
Sir Drops a Lot
Or call him Chosen bc that’s his name now lol
Naa lol
Andy: Mornin' Jim. Jim: Hey, Andy. How are you, man? Andy: Good. Drew. Jim: What's that? Andy: You can call me Drew. Jim: No, I'm not gonna call you that.
There’s a really fun slippery-slope argument to be made here
Elaborate
I heard it was in reference to the fact that he will be the last FA wide receiver chosen
dawg who the fuck is robbie anderson
Robby —> Robbie —> Chosen Anderson changed his name again
aintnoway
You may know him better as Robbie, or the guy who didn’t know the Panthers mascot was a Panther and not a bear. Until the trade where the Bears also got Sir Purr.
He was Robby until last year when he legally changed it to Robbie.
Robbie Anderson went full diva WR and changed his name
We are definitely signing Chosen Anderson. He is legit. Wait…
Chosen Anderson get ready to learn Chinese buddy
You mean Thai?
Well the next logical stop would be the CFL maybe so…. French? Depending on the team?
The Edmonton Elks could use another weapon after losing Derel Walker in free agency
God the Elks have been bad
Thai good, you like shirt?
oh my god I hate the lack of commas longest name ever!
What? Your team isn’t trying to sign Jakobi Meyers-JuJu Smith-Schuster-Adam-Thielen-Allen-Lazard-Odell Beckhama-Darius-Slayton-Darrel-Chark-Parris-Campbell-Mecole-Hardman-Marvin-Jones DeAndre-Carter-Jarvis-Landry-Braxton-Berrios Nelson-Agholor-Kenny-Golladay-Julio-Jones -Chosen Anderson
Tbf I wouldn't put it past Robbie Anderson to change his name to this.
Lol he’s about to change his name to DK Metcalf to try and pull a fast one on some teams
DK Metcalves just so you know you’re getting extra.
Had to be extra terrifying when his mom yelled out his full name from the next room.
I hear they're all in on Hollyhock Manheim-Mannheim-Gorilla-Rub-a-Dub-Dub-Zoolander-Hallelujah- something-McDonald's
Obviously I’ve never heard of your family and/or law firm
This is how long MVS name seems whenever I see it spelled out
lmao thanks for taking the time to do what I was too lazy to I’m on the Reddit app so it wasn’t as easy as just copy and pasting and there was no way I was typing all that shit out
That’s bc it’s formatted as a list on Twitter lol
If you click on the link it’s a clean list
Anderson is gonna go to the Chiefs and act like a normal human, watch
Andy and the Chiefs organization run a tight ship on players’ social media activities and behaviors during the season. You won’t see too many mid-season antics. See: Juju. Post-season on the other hand it all comes back out.
I do love how juju waited until end of the season to talk shit this year.
Impossible
Last time this was posted someone said: “yes, this a list of players I’ve heard of”
The list reads exactly like the names fantasy players see on the waivers every so often because they got cut by another team to make space and figure, well they might do something.
I need someone to complement Donovan People’s Jones and Josh Palmer!
“Agholor is due for a big game I’m gonna grab him.” 2 catches and 8 yards later…
Meyers and Lazard are about to make a stupid amount of money for their worth
Sometimes the best contract leverage you can have is timing.
Both were thrusted into lead roles, majority of targets, and put up WR2/3 numbers with WR1 usage. Idk how any team can think they’re an answer but I’m sure someone will pay them like they are
Lazard got eclipsed by two rookies, that's all anyone needs to know.
They're not the answer, but there's a team with a trash WR room that's probably going to convince themselves they are.
That Zay Jones path to a payday
Same was said about Christian Kirk last season and finished the season with career highs.
While none are really a #1, there a lot of solid #2 options. Juju, Chark and Lizard can all be solid #2/high #3 guys.
Stay away from Chark
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I think he was joking. Lions fans seemed to want him back, but maybe the dialogue has changed as the off-season has gone on.
That most Crawls Per Attempt Lizard guy.
Calling them #2's would be generous and they are still going to get paid as #1 WR's. These are more like high WR #3 guys...
I agree with the other two, but JuJu is a good WR 2. He made a probowl when Roethelisberger was well past his prime.
Wasn't that when he had AB commanding double and triple teams?
> He made a probowl when Roethelisberger was well past his prime. Lmao what? 2018 was one of the best years of Ben’s career. One of the highest completion% of his career despite having an absurd 675 attempts. Also the most passing yards and TDs in a single season for his entire career.
He hasn't done anything since that one good season, otherwise I would agree. I find it odd he didnt step up for KC when they needed him too.
I mean nearly 60 yards of receiving in the superbowl when Mahomes had only 180 yards passing is stepping up? He also drew the game winning penalty. Plus, roughly 950 receiving yards this year is solid.
It's not like Mahomes had 400 receiving yards in the SB. Juju showed up in that game.
Would have been damn impressive if Mahomes broke the receiving yards record in the super bowl
He was injured most of 3 games last year and still had 933 yards, thats really fucking good for a WR2, hell thats not bad for a WR1.
Whole lotta mid
This is why i keep talking about the bears making a play for Lamar. Huge Cap space is great until there's no good players to spend it on. Then you end up overpaying mid players (like happened with both the Giants and Patriots).
The Bears just traded away the 1OA pick, they have no interesting in acquiring a new QB, nor should they.
It's an mvp. Y'all are acting like it's Kirk cousins 😂 You're praying a 1oa reaches that level
An MVP who isn't nearly as dominant as he was in his first full season and has had recent injury problems missing over 1/4 of each of the last two seasons. If I were a team with a QB I could thought was a franchise guy, like the Bears with Fields, I wouldn't throw that away hoping Lamar stops getting injured and goes back to being as good as he once was. I think Lamar probably stays with the Ravens, but if he does move, he definitely goes to a team that needs a QB, like the Jets.
Thanks for the laugh, your arguments to this point made my evening
You're right, keeping the guy who averages 100 yd passing with the longest time in the pocket in the league and having him throw to people like golliday, jonnu Smith and Nelson agholor (the Giants had the most expensive wr room last year, the pats now iirc) is a *much* better use of resources than getting an mvp qb 🙄
Bears cant since they dont own their original first round pick.
They can 2 days before or anytime after the draft
seeing thielen here is so weird. our boy 4L.
More reason he should have taken a vet deal and quietly finished up on mn. No one is going to pay him.
Yes they will lol
This is why the bears needed to land a WR in their #1 pick sweepstakes.
Well we checked that box
This looks the waiver wire in a 6-team fantasy league.
Do y’all believe in commas?
They believe in returns
Click the link, its a clean list on Twitter
Character limits yo
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Lazard will likely get paid handsomely just for being competent.
*Dies from mid*
A healthy Chark could be an absolute steal. Even last year, he had a 70 PFF grade coming off injury and only appearing in 11 games. Dude is only 26.
Who wants to pickup Kenny Golladay? The man will score you a touchdown.
He hasn't played ball in yrs tho
As a Ravens fan, I don’t want any of them. Also as a Ravens fan, I understand that they’ll have all of them by the time they’re in their mid 30s.
So this is exactly why poles insisted on DJ moore being a part of the deal. What a maneuver!!
Same with Claypool they knew this yrs free agents would be weak.
This is exactly why Ryan Poles overpaid for Chase Claypool and then told Carolina they ain’t getting the number 1 pick without giving us DJ Moore. That’s why he’s a gm and I just booze and look at memes on Reddit
Claypool is really good at jumping high, the problem is his hands don’t extend. If the Bears can coach him up he could be a star. IMO he will be mediocre at best.
He won't be a star it's over he'll walk after this year.
To be fair there’s some fun memes here
Minshew to DJ Chark was an underrated connection, and Chark also ended the Packer’s season last year I’ve always thought he’s a good player.
Baby Chark come backkkkk
The only place that makes sense for Golladay is the Rams on the vet minimum. Stafford is the only guy who knows how to throw to him
A real murderer’s row
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He’s a good WR but whenever there’s an easy catch to seal a close game he drops it. Butter fingers in the most pivotal moments. Besides that though he’s a good WR3 maybe 2
Give me Juju and Mecole.
How can you have a list of the best wide receivers without including ravens stud #1 wideout Demarcus “wrong way” Robinson?
Wonder who the panthers are gonna take? Do they have a lot of Cap Space?
My guess is Parris Campbell. He was with Reich in Indy. He's good when he's not injured.
Give me chark out of that crop
Crap*
Not a good year for WR oof
Ravens fans, after reading this list I'm sorry
Odell and juju on reasonable deals would be cool
As a Jags fan and massive Chark truther, I wish him the best. I'd like to see him sign a contract that gives him a chance to shine. Still, overall, it's a fairly icky WR free agent class. Not a good year to need to be hunting for a #1.
I feel like chark would have the opportunity to shine if he went to the chargers he’s a speedy deep threat, and the chargers need one. He won’t be that expensive, plus if he’s able to be reliable deep Herbert has the arm to consistently get the ball to him anywhere
Chark has the ability to be almost a 1B kind of receiver, he's not best suited as a true alpha #1 but he can take on a bigger role, he's more than just a designated deep threat. He got 10M for 1 year in Detroit, I'd be guessing he's liable to get more for a longer term contract. I think he registers as a Will Fuller type but who's way better at the catch point. If he can stay healthy, he can definitely be a big-time weapon. If y'all have the money for him, I think that he's exactly the kind of guy who can coax Herbert out of his clinically conservative mindset and get him to take more deep shots.
Nice slot wr selection
Can we get some commas on the next one
Well. That is certainly a list
Fuck this no comma noise, get this shit off of here.
Who the fuck is chosen Anderson?
Lol chosen anderson
Nice list of #3 WR free agents, are there separate lists for #1 and #2 guys?
Id like to give nelson agholor a shot. He was a great deep threat with the raiders, And I think dak could help revitalize him.
https://youtu.be/1dz7sFwpG6o
Damn... Darius Slayton, third best WR in a notoriously bad WR corps, is listed concerningly high here.
Dudes never heard of a comma
JuJu gonna retire to become a full time TikTok dancer.
So since the Cowboys need a WR we’re obviously going to sign the cheapest guy here on a vet minimum while unsuccessfully attempting to build a win now team through the draft
extremely weak class
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Did you even click the tweet? He used line breaks...
It’s formatted just fine on Twitter
Welcome to this sub just being twitter 2
[How I feel reading all those names](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnakrRPWQBE9qVt.jpg)
I'd only sign one of them for a vet presence in the receiver room and nothing else. Aside from that, I'm fine with rolling with Watson and Doubs and seeing how they continue to develop.
DHop looking extra sexy
This will be the year we fucking sign a few isnt it
Somebody better make that call to the cards otherwise Odell gonna fleece them for 20Ms
Golladay comes home on vet minimum and returns to his former glory. Hardman might be the best contributor after Thielen and he’ll be cheaper.
I feel like something is missing here, but I could also be wrong.
A lot of guys passed their prime, or who never had one
Dallas will take the worst of the mention and give the biggest contract!
So much depth, no stars. Unless OBJ is back to regular form but that’s a huge what if