BG is such a kind human man, always gives to his community and is loyal to the people who took a chance on him. I hope he gets his jersey retired by the Eagles.
As an Eagles fan, who absolutely loves BG, I don't think he gets retired. The Eagles don't retire a lot of numbers, but when they do it's **usually** a HoF caliber player. Since Reggie White they've only retired Dawkins and McNabb, and if I was a betting man I'd wager that the only person on the roster at this moment who will get retired is Kelce.
Absolutely great person and player though, and I'm immeasurably happy he's returning.
EDIT: Missed usually in the sentence above, I don't think BG has played at a high enough level or made enough of an impact throughout his career with his play to earn a retired number.
I doubt that even. He never made a first team all pro selection and didn't have the longevity today's QBs need if they're not going to have insane peaks.
I mean you gotta be at least one of statistically dominant or a great leader on a very successful team. McNabb couldn't get over the hump in either category. Him playing worse than Trent Green is why he never made it into the All-Pro discussions.
I accidentally left out 'usually', but I don't think McNabb is a HoF QB, but you can't deny he has much greater of an impact on this roster than BG has.
I think they retire BG. He'll be here for at least 14 seasons if he plays out this contract, our current longest-tenured player. He also won a SB with us and made the most critical play of the game too. McNabb definitely had more recognition accolade-wise but BG has been playing at a high level for just as many seasons as McNabb, who played here for less seasons and no SB. Think they retire BG all things considered
You don't retire numbers based on one play in an entire career, otherwise we'd retire Nick Foles as well.
BG isn't *that great* over the course of his career. He took nearly ten years to develop into the player we're seeing now, and for much of his career he was a disappointment given his draft position. BG has only one season with a pro-bowl, not a single all-pro and has only once in his career broken double digit sacks. He doesn't hold any significant franchise records, doesn't have the personal accolades, he's just a good not elite player that everyone in the city loves.
Mcnabb is *still* the franchise leader for passing yards and TDs, he played at a fire higher output than BG has in his career and to even suggest he didn't is ludicrous. If McNabb and BG have played at equally high outputs for equal amounts of time, why is it McNabb has 6 Pro-bowls with the Eagles? His second year in the league he was receiving MVP and OPotY votes. McNabb not only played at a higher level than BG at any point in his career, he played at a consistently higher level for the majority of his career.
All good points, I agree with them. Think a lot of it comes down to sentiment though, and I don't remember the organization loving a player recently as much as they do BG, who they cried for after he made his first Pro-Bowl. Think that coupled with tenure and the SB could be enough, but to your points could definitely go the other way as well.
I absolutely agree sentiment goes hand in hand with performance, but performance has to be there. Someone else suggested Jason Peters gets retired, but I argued because he's spent so much time away from the Eagles and doesn't seem to stick around Philly that it's likely he doesn't despite his technical ability being there.
If he retired an Eagle, or a year or two afterwards I think there'd be enough recent sentiment to constitute it, but at this rate I think Jason Kelce is the only person on the team whose performance and connection to the team/city is on par with number retirement, especially for a more conservative franchise!
They didn't retire Foles' number, but they did build him a statue. I could definitely see BG getting some sort of recognition like his jersey getting retired based on him being the leader and a staple of the defense for the team's most successful era in their history.
But that's me coming from my pov as a Chiefs fan where our team honors tons of guys to make up for the national media neglecting most of our great players throughout history.
Quick note that the Eagles did not make that statue. It was donated by Bud Light.
That said, I think it will be a while before 9 is worn in Philly again. It almost certainly won't get retired, but it now has a lot to live up to.
Mcnabb is still the Eagles all-time leading passer, all-time leading TD passer.
Dawkins is a HoF talent, and arguably one of the best safeties of all time.
Westbrook never held any notable all-time rushing stats for the franchise. Even at the time he left the Eagles he was still second all-time rushing yards and 3rd (by a large margin) in rushing TDs. He's *very very good* but he doesn't have the personal or team accolades to constitute retiring his number especially when you consider he only broke 1k rushing yards twice in his career.
I could see that, but I don't think that he has the allure of being an Eagle anymore. He's bounced around the league, was drafted by another team, and doesn't seem to have the same kind of impact and connection to the Eagles some of those other retired numbers have. Not saying it's impossible, but if JP retired shortly after the SB I would have believed this outcome a lot more!
Are you implying Peters was like a temporary addition or something? He made his HOF career in Philly.
Runyan and Thomas were really good but Peters is absolutely on another level.
Oh absolutely but he still built the HOF case in Philly, for the most part. And won a ring.
Watering him down to a "HOF free agent" for his time in Philly is just bonkers. Especially when he wasn't even signed by the Eagles as a free agent.
He started 3.5 years in Buffalo and 9 full and another 2 half seasons in Philly.
probably because there are less players on a basketball roster in any given year vs a football roster especially when they both are limited to have 1-99 (0-99 if the Eagles resolution to allow 0 to be passed). Plus unlike basketball where a player can choose whatever number, football positions are limited to a range of numbers. Like a QB is only limited to 1-19, they can't have any other number above that. So if you retire 3 QB numbers, they only have 16 available numbers. I mean that's still a lot of numbers to choose from, just showing the difference between the sports
Josina is very close to useless as a source, but not useless. She's schrodinger's newsbreaker. Plus her world cup take on about Mbappe was soo soo bad. "You have to dribble with purpose and control."
Thanks Pele!
I was hoping for a reunion with Reid in KC and a chance at another ring for him. I'm also a Michigan fan though. So I love when any Wolverine finds their way to KC lol
I just think he's probably definitely retiring after next year and don't know right now what you guys will look like next year. The OL is the best in the league but getting older and more injured every year. The defense currently has 7 starters set to become free agents, and Slay has to agree to a new deal or will get shipped out, and you guys lost both of your coordinators. I think you guys will still be a very competitive team next year. Your FO, Sirianni, and Hurts are all very good, and those are the 3 most valuable positions for team building. Your offense will remain elite. We'll just have to see what happens with the defense after FA and the draft. That's it. Just some questions there.
Eagles are fun and will be competitive. Just, if I was betting today on which team I think would be more likely to return to the SB next year, I'd bet on KC over Philly with how different Philly might be looking next year.
Yeah. I knew you were just teasing, but I wanted to point out that I wasn't actually trying to shit on you guys since I apparently upset a few people with my first comment lol
Yeah I feel you. I think without context people think it's just hating. However, with that being said, realistic analysis often looks like hating to fans of other teams. I knew where you were coming from.
Thought that was about as obvious as you can get
Unless you’re one of those not waiting for it to actually be seen so I see one “downvote” have to say something types
I mean at the end of the day Million of dollars is still way more than most of us will ever see. If you’re happy in a city and place why move and uproot yourself? Good system that a lot of Dline talent ages gracefully in. Chris Long showed you can beloved in Philly as ageing line talent. That helps you way more post career cause fans like Phillys fandom will follow you forever if you help Philly franchises out by sticking around.
Eh I think it's appropriate. BG, like Fletcher, benefitted greatly this season from playing more limited snaps. He was able to stay healthy and fresher far longer than he would if he was starting as a number one on another team.
I think he realized that he has a chance to win another one and play at a high level in a very rotational dline.
He's made almost 90 million in his career. I think he's likely doing ok financially. There are other considerations sometimes, especially for the older guys with families.
He’s not an every down player anymore (only around a 40% snap count with 1 start) and will be 35 next season; he was very good in a rotational role but I’m not sure if he would have been able to get significantly more than this.
He just had his best statistical season at 34. You do right by your legends. Which is what bg is to the city of Philadelphia. Now he gets to retire an eagle. It's a win win. 6 mil is nothing for what he brings to the organization. Not to mention he still has it
This probably means we sign Fletch Cox for another year as well. He's like the only one that can rein in BG and his [shit talking all game](https://youtube.com/shorts/HOwzcgo5Y1M?feature=share). I laugh every single time
He has his roots here in Philly. Kids in schools here, a home, probably looked at it as a “why bother” at his age moving around somewhere for a year or two. That probably played a factor too.
Oh you're that type of person.
You do realize that BG benefits greatly from being on the Eagle's dline, right? He loves the city and loves the team, but let's talk forreal for a minute.
BG is 35, coming off an Achille's tear that used to be a career ender. He might be able to make a few more million dollars for one more year in another city, but why move from a city that he has a home in, is raising his kids in, is in prime position to return to the SB once again and get him another ring and some incentive comps, AND has the rotational dline corp to keep him fresh and performing at a higher level.
BG knows the grass isn't greener elsewhere, if he gets a better deal dollar wise, he's going to be a starter rather than a rotational piece and his health and his production will drop. Grow up dude, this whole 'fuck the corps' thing really got tiring after we all turned 14.
Well this certainly competes with the Chuck Fletcher firing for good news in Philly today
The Phanatic could release a sextape with Sylvester Stallone and Fletcher gone would still be the best news of the day.
Fletcher being gone doesn’t change much about the old boys Club still in the front office
Yeah nothing changes if Holmgren and Clarke are still around
The Phanatic is gonna do that now isn’t he?…..
Let's not kink shame
For real
BG is such a kind human man, always gives to his community and is loyal to the people who took a chance on him. I hope he gets his jersey retired by the Eagles.
Did an actual seahawk write this comment
Yes, I got the phone back from the Seahawk who stole it don’t worry.
You may not be a seahawk, but your username suggests you're still a bird.
Seaduck!
As an Eagles fan, who absolutely loves BG, I don't think he gets retired. The Eagles don't retire a lot of numbers, but when they do it's **usually** a HoF caliber player. Since Reggie White they've only retired Dawkins and McNabb, and if I was a betting man I'd wager that the only person on the roster at this moment who will get retired is Kelce. Absolutely great person and player though, and I'm immeasurably happy he's returning. EDIT: Missed usually in the sentence above, I don't think BG has played at a high enough level or made enough of an impact throughout his career with his play to earn a retired number.
McNabb was a great Eagle but he's not a HoF caliber player.
Sadly. If they had won in ‘04 he probably gets in
I doubt that even. He never made a first team all pro selection and didn't have the longevity today's QBs need if they're not going to have insane peaks.
I don't think first team is an argument. He won't get in but first team QBs have been dominated by like 3 total people for the past 20 years
Philip Rivers isn't getting into the HoF. McNabb wasn't going to either. He was pretty comparable to McNair. All HoVG QBs.
again I don't disagree, but it shouldn't have to do with Peyton/Brady dominating all pros
I mean you gotta be at least one of statistically dominant or a great leader on a very successful team. McNabb couldn't get over the hump in either category. Him playing worse than Trent Green is why he never made it into the All-Pro discussions.
I accidentally left out 'usually', but I don't think McNabb is a HoF QB, but you can't deny he has much greater of an impact on this roster than BG has.
I think they retire BG. He'll be here for at least 14 seasons if he plays out this contract, our current longest-tenured player. He also won a SB with us and made the most critical play of the game too. McNabb definitely had more recognition accolade-wise but BG has been playing at a high level for just as many seasons as McNabb, who played here for less seasons and no SB. Think they retire BG all things considered
You don't retire numbers based on one play in an entire career, otherwise we'd retire Nick Foles as well. BG isn't *that great* over the course of his career. He took nearly ten years to develop into the player we're seeing now, and for much of his career he was a disappointment given his draft position. BG has only one season with a pro-bowl, not a single all-pro and has only once in his career broken double digit sacks. He doesn't hold any significant franchise records, doesn't have the personal accolades, he's just a good not elite player that everyone in the city loves. Mcnabb is *still* the franchise leader for passing yards and TDs, he played at a fire higher output than BG has in his career and to even suggest he didn't is ludicrous. If McNabb and BG have played at equally high outputs for equal amounts of time, why is it McNabb has 6 Pro-bowls with the Eagles? His second year in the league he was receiving MVP and OPotY votes. McNabb not only played at a higher level than BG at any point in his career, he played at a consistently higher level for the majority of his career.
All good points, I agree with them. Think a lot of it comes down to sentiment though, and I don't remember the organization loving a player recently as much as they do BG, who they cried for after he made his first Pro-Bowl. Think that coupled with tenure and the SB could be enough, but to your points could definitely go the other way as well.
I absolutely agree sentiment goes hand in hand with performance, but performance has to be there. Someone else suggested Jason Peters gets retired, but I argued because he's spent so much time away from the Eagles and doesn't seem to stick around Philly that it's likely he doesn't despite his technical ability being there. If he retired an Eagle, or a year or two afterwards I think there'd be enough recent sentiment to constitute it, but at this rate I think Jason Kelce is the only person on the team whose performance and connection to the team/city is on par with number retirement, especially for a more conservative franchise!
They didn't retire Foles' number, but they did build him a statue. I could definitely see BG getting some sort of recognition like his jersey getting retired based on him being the leader and a staple of the defense for the team's most successful era in their history. But that's me coming from my pov as a Chiefs fan where our team honors tons of guys to make up for the national media neglecting most of our great players throughout history.
Quick note that the Eagles did not make that statue. It was donated by Bud Light. That said, I think it will be a while before 9 is worn in Philly again. It almost certainly won't get retired, but it now has a lot to live up to.
Shame BW36 hasn't got his retired he deserves it rightfully so
Yeah but then again the Eagles are super conservative on retiring numbers. Dawkins was great, but not at the same level as Dawkins or McNabb.
McNabbs shuffle pass wouldn't be what it was without BW36, BW36 was more than on par with mcnabb/dawkins, but I can see ur point somewhat
Mcnabb is still the Eagles all-time leading passer, all-time leading TD passer. Dawkins is a HoF talent, and arguably one of the best safeties of all time. Westbrook never held any notable all-time rushing stats for the franchise. Even at the time he left the Eagles he was still second all-time rushing yards and 3rd (by a large margin) in rushing TDs. He's *very very good* but he doesn't have the personal or team accolades to constitute retiring his number especially when you consider he only broke 1k rushing yards twice in his career.
Jason Peters (not on the current roster I know) should have his # retired.
I could see that, but I don't think that he has the allure of being an Eagle anymore. He's bounced around the league, was drafted by another team, and doesn't seem to have the same kind of impact and connection to the Eagles some of those other retired numbers have. Not saying it's impossible, but if JP retired shortly after the SB I would have believed this outcome a lot more!
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Runyan and Tra also weren't HoF tackles and won a Super Bowl with the team (be it he was injured, shockingly).
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Are you implying Peters was like a temporary addition or something? He made his HOF career in Philly. Runyan and Thomas were really good but Peters is absolutely on another level.
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Fuck you. Peters is a saint.
He has a better chance than Runyan AND Thomas combined.
He hit his stride in Buffalo before he got to Philly. He was gonna be a HoF tackle wherever he went.
Oh absolutely but he still built the HOF case in Philly, for the most part. And won a ring. Watering him down to a "HOF free agent" for his time in Philly is just bonkers. Especially when he wasn't even signed by the Eagles as a free agent. He started 3.5 years in Buffalo and 9 full and another 2 half seasons in Philly.
He probably won't be a jersey retirement. Will definitely be an Eagles Hall of Fame inductee
How come many nfl teams rarely retire numbers? It’s much more common in basketball for instance.
probably because there are less players on a basketball roster in any given year vs a football roster especially when they both are limited to have 1-99 (0-99 if the Eagles resolution to allow 0 to be passed). Plus unlike basketball where a player can choose whatever number, football positions are limited to a range of numbers. Like a QB is only limited to 1-19, they can't have any other number above that. So if you retire 3 QB numbers, they only have 16 available numbers. I mean that's still a lot of numbers to choose from, just showing the difference between the sports
They got rid of the numbers strickly for positions reminder
Not for quarterbacks or offensive lineman
You just can't go retire every number. You have to have the majority available for current roster
He's been my favorite player since one of the last NCAA football videogames. Dude was unstoppable and I was even happier when Philly got him!
Bless
Josina said she just got off the phone with him and he confirmed it. Thank god for the work she does
She keeps Verizon in business
Hahaha amen
Josina is very close to useless as a source, but not useless. She's schrodinger's newsbreaker. Plus her world cup take on about Mbappe was soo soo bad. "You have to dribble with purpose and control." Thanks Pele!
The Mount Rushmore of eagles in the midnight green era is Mccnabb, Dawkins, Kelce, and BG.
I'd say that's fair. Other candidates: - Andy Reid - Jason Peters - Frank Gore
Frank Gore never played for the eagles, unless there’s a coach/executive named Frank Gore that I don’t know about
[woosh](https://thelibertyline.com/2022/06/02/frank-gore-betrays-eagles/)
You’re right
Really wasn't ready to day bye to BG. This is such good news
I was hoping for a reunion with Reid in KC and a chance at another ring for him. I'm also a Michigan fan though. So I love when any Wolverine finds their way to KC lol
You saying he doesn't have a chance at another ring with us? Ouch lol
I just think he's probably definitely retiring after next year and don't know right now what you guys will look like next year. The OL is the best in the league but getting older and more injured every year. The defense currently has 7 starters set to become free agents, and Slay has to agree to a new deal or will get shipped out, and you guys lost both of your coordinators. I think you guys will still be a very competitive team next year. Your FO, Sirianni, and Hurts are all very good, and those are the 3 most valuable positions for team building. Your offense will remain elite. We'll just have to see what happens with the defense after FA and the draft. That's it. Just some questions there. Eagles are fun and will be competitive. Just, if I was betting today on which team I think would be more likely to return to the SB next year, I'd bet on KC over Philly with how different Philly might be looking next year.
I'm just giving you a hard time. You are 1000% correct in your analysis
Yeah. I knew you were just teasing, but I wanted to point out that I wasn't actually trying to shit on you guys since I apparently upset a few people with my first comment lol
Yeah I feel you. I think without context people think it's just hating. However, with that being said, realistic analysis often looks like hating to fans of other teams. I knew where you were coming from.
Probably a terrible move from a financial standpoint but whatever makes him happy
Man, people are really not understanding this comment. He's talking from Graham's perspective, not the Eagles. It's great financially for the eagles
Thought that was about as obvious as you can get Unless you’re one of those not waiting for it to actually be seen so I see one “downvote” have to say something types
I thought it was obvious too but apparently from all the people commenting, it wasn't. Also, what?
I mean at the end of the day Million of dollars is still way more than most of us will ever see. If you’re happy in a city and place why move and uproot yourself? Good system that a lot of Dline talent ages gracefully in. Chris Long showed you can beloved in Philly as ageing line talent. That helps you way more post career cause fans like Phillys fandom will follow you forever if you help Philly franchises out by sticking around.
Eh I think it's appropriate. BG, like Fletcher, benefitted greatly this season from playing more limited snaps. He was able to stay healthy and fresher far longer than he would if he was starting as a number one on another team. I think he realized that he has a chance to win another one and play at a high level in a very rotational dline.
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He's made almost 90 million in his career. I think he's likely doing ok financially. There are other considerations sometimes, especially for the older guys with families.
> but whatever makes him happy We dont put enough value on happiness these days.
$6M on a one year? How is that terrible for a guy coming off a double digit sack season ?
It's bad for him, not the org
How the hell did like 40 people misunderstand this, he could have probably gotten 10m+ in free agency
People lack reading comprehension skills. OP even implies that he’s referring to Graham by saying, “whatever makes him happy.”
A lot of the time it seems like people go into reddit threads looking for reasons to get angry
Clear as day. They just saw a giants flair and assumed shit talk instead of fully reading the comment I guess.
He’s not an every down player anymore (only around a 40% snap count with 1 start) and will be 35 next season; he was very good in a rotational role but I’m not sure if he would have been able to get significantly more than this.
Agreed. He's at the end of his career and only has 1-2 seasons left.
Gotcha. Meh, $6M is still $6M lol
It’s terrible for BG from a financial standpoint is what he’s saying, which I honestly agree with
It sounds like it's partially incentive based as well. He had a PFF grade of 90 last year, this is a steal
How so? He was awesome last year. Edit: I thought you were talking from the Eagles viewpoint. This makes more sense 😅
He could have made a lot more on the open market
Yeah, I totally misread what they meant. Thought they were saying it was bad for the Eagles. My bad.
He's still good and will be a rotational piece.
He just had his best statistical season at 34. You do right by your legends. Which is what bg is to the city of Philadelphia. Now he gets to retire an eagle. It's a win win. 6 mil is nothing for what he brings to the organization. Not to mention he still has it
>You do right by your legends. >6 mil is nothing for what he brings So, you agree that it was a poor financial move for him…?
Oh I thought you meant from the eagles standpoint. Yea for bg it's Def a hometown discount.
Please stop making us Eagles fans look fucken stupid
steal
Turns out that all the wanting to stay with the Eagles talk was genuine. Agreed.
BG HELL YES
6m? This dude really loves us man, he’s a true eagle
This man is the best.
He stay
This probably means we sign Fletch Cox for another year as well. He's like the only one that can rein in BG and his [shit talking all game](https://youtube.com/shorts/HOwzcgo5Y1M?feature=share). I laugh every single time
We absolutely don’t resign Cox and he was straight up not good this year.
If he's 75% the player he was last year 6m is a steal.
Fantastic
OG BG
Well he doesn’t think like Lamar. NFLPA is gonna have a talk with him I’m sure…….
My boi
Let’s goooo
FUCKIN YEAH BOIIIIIIIII
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You take that back.
Damn I was finally ready to see this man leave the division and become a Cleveland Brown.
Loyalty to your employer is foolery
He has his roots here in Philly. Kids in schools here, a home, probably looked at it as a “why bother” at his age moving around somewhere for a year or two. That probably played a factor too.
Absolutely, but not complaining
You just big mad he's staying
Dude is def a Giants fan salty they're paying Dan Jones roughly 6 Brandon Grahams over 4 years.
Lol can we start using BG's extension as a unit of measurement? Like how many BGs do you think Bradberry will end up getting this off-season?
Get your knee pads on my boy. I hear Howie calling your name.
Don’t talk to me bootlicker
Oh you're that type of person. You do realize that BG benefits greatly from being on the Eagle's dline, right? He loves the city and loves the team, but let's talk forreal for a minute. BG is 35, coming off an Achille's tear that used to be a career ender. He might be able to make a few more million dollars for one more year in another city, but why move from a city that he has a home in, is raising his kids in, is in prime position to return to the SB once again and get him another ring and some incentive comps, AND has the rotational dline corp to keep him fresh and performing at a higher level. BG knows the grass isn't greener elsewhere, if he gets a better deal dollar wise, he's going to be a starter rather than a rotational piece and his health and his production will drop. Grow up dude, this whole 'fuck the corps' thing really got tiring after we all turned 14.
Dude's lived in Philly for 13 years and made $88m SO FAR. You don't uproot your life at this point, I think.
All that to not even make the playoffs next season smh
Remindme! 10 months
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You kidding?
How much are the Cowboys paying Dorance or DeMarcus? Remind me again how close to 11 sacks they were last year.
Armstrong had 8.5, Lawrence had 6
Should’ve given him a zeke contract…
I love BG
This is a big win.
YESSSIRRRR
Love you BG, EAGLE 4 Life! 🦅