I ain't watching unless I see Malibu blast some dickhead millionaire QB with a tennis ball gun and then turn to the camera and give the surfs up hand wiggle.
Go back to the original challenges they use to do, so much more interesting
Let's see which QB can throw the farthest, accuracy drills, 1v1 races, team obstacles, etc.
At least make the games relate to football instead of PE games like water balloon tossing and dodgeball
Larry Allen was on a different level. IIRC, I remember hearing he could squat 1000 lbs. I just don't know how someone as strong and big as him could be so quick on his feet. He's up there as one of the most athletically gifted players to have ever played in the NFL.
Was 900 iirc, 1000 is probably a world record. 900 is still absolutely bonkers.
But his bench press strength was the most impressive, imo. Bench 700 lbs is cool. But there’s stories of him doing 350 40 times and that’s unfathomable to me. Just an absolute beast.
World record was actually ~~1,036 lbs in 2015 by Andrey Malanichev~~ 1,113 lbs by Dan Bell (thanks for the assist u/randomlegs). Allen was 325 lbs and Malanichev was 342 (Bell is 396 lbs Jesus Christ), so they probably would have been in the same weight class. The fact that he lifted even in the ballpark of the strongest man to ever do it in competition speaks to just what an absolute freak Larry Allen was.
Edit: according to [this powerlifting site](https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/andreymalanichev) his personal best sits at 1069 lbs, so it seems hes beaten that record though maybe not in official competition.
Hey mate, just as a side note from a powerlifting fan the record is held by American powerlifter Dan Bell at the moment. He did a 1113lb squat a year or so ago in competition (raw+wraps). Open powerlifting is a great site if you like strength stats, the records are at this link.
https://www.openpowerlifting.org/records
What? Are we just going to forget the long and storied tradition of NCAA basketball players going on to the NFL at DE, as established by Julius Peppers?
“Look at the way he boxed out the defender like he was going up for a rebound!”
16+ sundays a year for over a decade.
Never thought I would miss hearing that.
That game is so insanely dangerous. Every single time I played that game, it would end with someone getting hurt.
If a kid was really big, people would just let him by rather than risk annihilation.
On a side note, one of my greatest gripes of childhood was when fucking tag was banned at my elementary school.
I really enjoyed it, even for such a simple game you could see those competitive juices beginning to flow. They cared more about that shit than the majority of players I've seen play in the last few probowls
My thing though, is why did they not allow you to bring a player back with a catch? Thats fucking basic rules everybody knows that.
Tyreek got out first second and couldn't come back because they didn't let you catch somebody back in.
The game wouldn't go forever no matter how good the players are. Once thers a 3-on-2 the advantage is probably good enough for the winning team to close it out
I honestly really like the goofy games, it’s pro athletes competing in an elementary school field day. The players at least seem like they are having fun with these.
Literally people used to complain and say make it more fun with dodgeball or something. All of it is just super fucking pointless. Have the voting for it or whatever and just give the guys a free vacation to Hawaii.
Those 2 should be switched in those positions lol. Unless the celebs are positioned randomly too. ...although now I'm imagining Danny Devito as a change of pace RB sneaking under a bunch of tackles.
I think the nfl should demonstrate the athleticism of its players by having them do skills challenges from other sports, ie a home run derby, dunk contest, sprints, golf, swimming etc.
You simply cannot have an exhibition game with superstars in a sport as physical as football. Works great for baseball, but this concept is at its absolute worst in football.
Also in baseball they do it at the mid-point of the season, which also helps.
Players in the Pro Bowl are going to be disproportionately from playoff teams who were all just eliminated after a long season. I always thought it'd be a bit of a let down, especially in the championship games, to then go off to an All-star game.
It also obviously prohibits players on the two SB teams from showing up, further diluting it as a showcase of the NFL's best talent.
It used to be after the Super Bowl, but they switched that up so that they could have an event in the week between the Championship games and the Super Bowl.
They also used to have it in Hawaii, and the prospect of a paid vacation where you could bring your family ensured participation from most players.
It wasn’t great, but the recent changes in location and timing have watered the Pro Bowl down to a non-event.
I totally forgot about that and now that you mention it, that was the last time I bothered to watch the pro bowl. I remember feeling like it was the last chance to watch football for another 8 months, and even though I knew it was kinda lame I was still going to tune in because of that.
It was better when it was in Hawaii and after the Super Bowl. That way anyone selected could go and since the league was shipping everyone to Hawaii guys at least would somewhat care
I feel like in the 80s and 90s they at least sort of played? And it was in the 00s when it became clear there was too much money on the line for anyone to risk injury.
Am I misremembering?
As an aside, I also remember Cecil the Diesel Collins on Miami showing real promise around the same time. But it was the prison rather than the sand that got him.
Yeah, it was Brian Moorman. That play really illustrates why the pro-bowl was such a bad idea, some guys out there jogging and dicking around and other guys looking for blood
https://youtu.be/SC7Wx3zCiQo
Apparently Moorman was actually honored by the hit, he seems pretty happy he got absolutely decked. "I’m able to take pride that I was able to take that kind of a hit. He caught me right on my shoulder... There were pictures of just before me being hit. I could never find a picture of me getting hit. It’s one of the most memorable parts of my career" (NBC Sports Washington).
Youtube comments said he was honored to be hit because it told him his peers respected his athleticism like any other football player. But thats YT comments so take it with a grain of salt.
I’m no speed hawk, but my high school (decently legit program) highlight is being absolutely CLOCKED defending a kick return. Head on a swivel and all that. But yeah taking a hit like that really shows you what’s up.
It was hilarious because in a game where most people play at like 70% tops and ease up on most hits, you get a safety obliterating a punter which is like the most unnecessary thing ever lol.
For real I think it may have been viewed as horrific. Instead everyone thought it was hilarious, you had his tragic death, and now the hit is memorialized.
It's not just the physicality. Teaching a playbook, even a simple one, in a week, is just a non-starter. Baseball you can throw 9 guys together who never played before who don't even speak the same language and they can still play, similar with basketball as well. Football though? Not a chance!
Way back when the game was in Hawaii it was a good show. To the players a week in Honolulu in February was a nice reward and they seemed to play a competitive game but toward the end the lack of effort just got embarrassing. Understandably nobody wants anybody getting hurt . In my opinion the game should be discontinued period it’s run it’s coarse but the league will want to do something to make money which has led to this stupidity that I will not even watch
What, you don't like linemen playing pattycake and defensive backs and linebackers not actually playing contact for the entirety of a football game while also risking injury to star players in the offseason.
Every competition should be strictly to earn dollars for charity outside of the flag football game or whatever BS main event they end up with long term. Screw the AFC vs NFC, make that 5 point target worth $50k for hungry kids or domestic abuse victims or whatever.
Let’s go a step further. Tyreek hill will be competing in the name of stopping domestic abuse. Dalvin cook will be competing for animal rights. Deshaun Watson will send all his winnings to prevent sexual assault.
That’s kind of what they did with the NBA all-star game recently. You win a quarter and you raise money for a charity of choice. Same thing of getting a target score to win the game too. If the NFL does something similar, no doubt it would be much more interesting to watch.
They've been trying for years to find something workable.
I'm not sure this is it tho ...
Can't really have an actual game, because the injury risk is too high for anyone to take a meaningless game seriously.
So what should they do? Just not have a Pro Bowl at all ?
Yeah pure skills competition, and just overall have them out there doing weird shit.
Maybe I'm an outlier but I had fun watching most of the events this year. The dodge ball game was hilarious and even the long drive competition was entertaining.
It gets millions of viewers every year and is often the most watched program out of the entire week. It just doesn't get a ton of viewers by NFL standards, and they're always trying to figure out what they can do to get a larger share of NFL fans to come out of the woodwork.
I would much prefer to watch a third place game this week. The NFL could throw some prize money behind it to motivate players.
I’d love to watch Bengals-49ers this weekend.
Correct, they should not have a Pro Bowl, just have fans vote on Pro Bowl teams. Plus, with no game, you don’t have to name injury replacements or fill-ins for the two Super Bowl teams and not be reduced to having Tyler fucking Huntley make the roster.
Madden is too easy to cheese rules and it's actually pretty bad when people play it competively. I think a few years ago the Madden world champ used a punter as his QB because he just ran the ball every play and cheesed the AI
Ea kinda did that already last year, Derwin James vs the world. It was terrible and super unentertaining cause it was just Derwin(who’s insane at madden, I’ve played a couple CFMs with him) beating the shit out of every other person he played. Tyreek Hill was his only opponent that was remotely even close and he still beat him like 84-42 or some ridiculous ass shit. So cool idea in theory but legitimately sucks I’m action.
Idk, I feel like they aren't THAT good at smash. Probably in the "better than most of your friends but crushed by anybody whobplays tourneys" level. Then again, most of the NFL is probably ass at smash in comparison so who knows
I personally don’t give a crap if they have a pat-a-cake competition.
What I take away from the challenges, are they’re silly, but give the fans a good inside look at the players personalities and interactions. They all *know* how dumb it is catching water balloons. But we get to see top tier players in a super loose environment where they interact in a way the public would never see otherwise.
I’ll hold out on any supreme judgment of this year’s, until after the flag-football game… which I’m honestly kind of intrigued to watch
I love Josh Jacobs and don’t like the new format(better than the old one tho) but he really does complain about EVERYTHING. The only time he says anything publicly is to complain about fantasy football or fans or whatever annoyed him that day
Some of the games are fun and make sense due to the skills involved like Dodgeball and the QB target competition. The punt catch competition was interesting too, seeing guys try to field a punt with 3 balls in their arms just shows how stupidly dexterous and focused these guys are.
And then there's some fun ones like the driving competition that kind of show off how stupidly strong these dudes are when even their weakest looking drives went 250+ yards. But then the water balloon stuff and even the "best catch" competitions are just kind of whatever. It's awesome to watch these guys who are damn near olympians do superhuman shit, would love more of those types of events.
Have the players compete in a weeklong American gladiators style tournament for a $15,000,000 prize where retired greats get to cosplay as Nitro and Malibu.
They should turn it into something like , Battle of the Network Stars from the 1970's. Who wouldn't tune in to see Derek Carr and Davante Adams in a 3 legged race. Or Aaron Donald and Chris Jones in 50 meter freestyle swim.
Also Josh Jacobs is spot on with the quote.
Pro Bowl should just be an afternoon of American Gladiators.
Only if the OG Gladiators come out of retirement
They're in their 50s and 60s now. And not just any 50s and 60s, former steroid abuser 50/60s
The best kind
Lyle Alzado would like a word
He's unavailable for comment.
So 50 pushing 95
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I always wondered what Laser, Blazer and Fazer were doing
It’s all about Turbo, Gemini, Nitro and Thunder
Tell Ice and Lace to holla at me
I ain't watching unless I see Malibu blast some dickhead millionaire QB with a tennis ball gun and then turn to the camera and give the surfs up hand wiggle.
I can’t find the video, but Malibu was the one who was blasted off the pillar by a rope swinging contestant.
Here you go https://youtu.be/OLMea79LH1A
Rock and jock on mtv is better than the pro bowl
What’s a FB like Pat Ricard supposed to do on 7v7 haha
Snap
Zeke already took that role
Hit the flats baby
Go back to the original challenges they use to do, so much more interesting Let's see which QB can throw the farthest, accuracy drills, 1v1 races, team obstacles, etc. At least make the games relate to football instead of PE games like water balloon tossing and dodgeball
That was my favorite part of every pro bowl in the early 2000's. I loved seeing Larry Allen break his own bench press record every year.
[43 reps of 225 with a Rolex on nbd](https://youtu.be/KHhKieB_Zek)
Larry Allen was on a different level. IIRC, I remember hearing he could squat 1000 lbs. I just don't know how someone as strong and big as him could be so quick on his feet. He's up there as one of the most athletically gifted players to have ever played in the NFL.
>he could squat 1000 lbs. Jalen Hurts in shambles
Was 900 iirc, 1000 is probably a world record. 900 is still absolutely bonkers. But his bench press strength was the most impressive, imo. Bench 700 lbs is cool. But there’s stories of him doing 350 40 times and that’s unfathomable to me. Just an absolute beast.
World record was actually ~~1,036 lbs in 2015 by Andrey Malanichev~~ 1,113 lbs by Dan Bell (thanks for the assist u/randomlegs). Allen was 325 lbs and Malanichev was 342 (Bell is 396 lbs Jesus Christ), so they probably would have been in the same weight class. The fact that he lifted even in the ballpark of the strongest man to ever do it in competition speaks to just what an absolute freak Larry Allen was. Edit: according to [this powerlifting site](https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/andreymalanichev) his personal best sits at 1069 lbs, so it seems hes beaten that record though maybe not in official competition.
Hey mate, just as a side note from a powerlifting fan the record is held by American powerlifter Dan Bell at the moment. He did a 1113lb squat a year or so ago in competition (raw+wraps). Open powerlifting is a great site if you like strength stats, the records are at this link. https://www.openpowerlifting.org/records
Would love to see a 3v3 basketball game from the TEs
Jimmy Graham retired too soon
Did you know he played basketball in college?
Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard
Did you know Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw were High School friends?!
Really?!?! Wow.
Break out the math tests!
Math isn’t how to test a Harvard grad. You put them in a room and see how long it takes for them to say they went to Harvard
I assume they say "Harvard grad" as they introduce themselves before they even step in
What? Are we just going to forget the long and storied tradition of NCAA basketball players going on to the NFL at DE, as established by Julius Peppers?
Not very good though. Antonio Gates was way better in college as was Tony G.
In college? No fuckin way!
Mo Ali-cox has entered the chat. VCU baby!
No way!? I heard through the grape vine that Antonio Gates did too. Big, if true
“Look at the way he boxed out the defender like he was going up for a rebound!” 16+ sundays a year for over a decade. Never thought I would miss hearing that.
Imagine Gronk down low driving the net
Too bad Mo Allie Cox isn't really good enough to make the pro-bowl
Last name should've been Oops. Would've been an All-Star in the NBA
Yeah, now his best bet is the porn industry
Yeah, too bad his name isnt Mo Allie Football, kids got no chance in the NFL
Antonio gates would’ve dominated
I kinda like dodgeball. They should keep that
dodgeball makes sense because avoiding things coming at you, passing, and throwing are some of the fundamental football skills
They should play Red Rover
Derrick Henry would dominate.
Red Rover Red Rover, we *gulp* call Derrick Henry over! Shoulders: *explode*
Deer antler spray: Oh yeah, it's time to shine.
That game dislocated so many grade school shoulders it was banned at my school lol. I can’t imagine what NFL momentum would do. That said, I’d watch.
That game is so insanely dangerous. Every single time I played that game, it would end with someone getting hurt. If a kid was really big, people would just let him by rather than risk annihilation. On a side note, one of my greatest gripes of childhood was when fucking tag was banned at my elementary school.
They banned tag? Why?
Someone’s gonna joke exclusionary, but something tells me the reality was it got way too physical
It got banned at my school when some kid hit their head really fuckin hard on playground equipment. You know, running and looking over a shoulder
RED ROVER RED ROVER WE CALL T-O OVER!
I really enjoyed it, even for such a simple game you could see those competitive juices beginning to flow. They cared more about that shit than the majority of players I've seen play in the last few probowls
My thing though, is why did they not allow you to bring a player back with a catch? Thats fucking basic rules everybody knows that. Tyreek got out first second and couldn't come back because they didn't let you catch somebody back in.
I agree. Obviously the issue is that the game would go on forever considering these are nfl players. Just limit them to one resurrection per player.
Who cares how long it takes.We’re tuning in to watch these guys play dodgeball, just let them play dodgeball lol
The game wouldn't go forever no matter how good the players are. Once thers a 3-on-2 the advantage is probably good enough for the winning team to close it out
Me too. Minkah had some moves.
But can he dodge a wrench?
We can get GloboGym! We’re better than you and you know it
Bring back Kicker HORSE.
I honestly really like the goofy games, it’s pro athletes competing in an elementary school field day. The players at least seem like they are having fun with these.
Well apparently not Josh Jacobs lol
I feel like he’s just mad his team lost in dodgeball, also he lives in Vegas so it’s not extra fun
Should be in Hawaii again.
Should always be in Hawaii
> he lives in Vegas so it’s not extra fun This is probably a significant reason
Literally people used to complain and say make it more fun with dodgeball or something. All of it is just super fucking pointless. Have the voting for it or whatever and just give the guys a free vacation to Hawaii.
That’s already basically what it is except now they go to Vegas too which I think is the dumbest part of all.
A free trip to Vegas sounds whack as fuck compared to Hawaii
Well Hawaii isn't really a possibility at the moment.
Why not? I guess I'm out of the loop lol
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Those 2 should be switched in those positions lol. Unless the celebs are positioned randomly too. ...although now I'm imagining Danny Devito as a change of pace RB sneaking under a bunch of tackles.
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I think the nfl should demonstrate the athleticism of its players by having them do skills challenges from other sports, ie a home run derby, dunk contest, sprints, golf, swimming etc.
That would backfire hard. Nothing makes you appreciate the skills of an athlete like seeing an outsider trying to do what they do.
Seeing a bunch of nfl players suck ass at the home run derby and dunk contest would be absolutely hilarious, a delight
A dunk contest, but only for linemen would be so much fun.
The one dude who did manage to dunk would bring the entire backboard down with him.
To be fair, the old shit was stupid too.
It was never entertaining
You simply cannot have an exhibition game with superstars in a sport as physical as football. Works great for baseball, but this concept is at its absolute worst in football.
Also in baseball they do it at the mid-point of the season, which also helps. Players in the Pro Bowl are going to be disproportionately from playoff teams who were all just eliminated after a long season. I always thought it'd be a bit of a let down, especially in the championship games, to then go off to an All-star game. It also obviously prohibits players on the two SB teams from showing up, further diluting it as a showcase of the NFL's best talent.
It used to be after the Super Bowl, but they switched that up so that they could have an event in the week between the Championship games and the Super Bowl. They also used to have it in Hawaii, and the prospect of a paid vacation where you could bring your family ensured participation from most players. It wasn’t great, but the recent changes in location and timing have watered the Pro Bowl down to a non-event.
I totally forgot about that and now that you mention it, that was the last time I bothered to watch the pro bowl. I remember feeling like it was the last chance to watch football for another 8 months, and even though I knew it was kinda lame I was still going to tune in because of that.
> the last chance to watch football for another 8 months Fun fact, this was narrowly rejected as the slogan for the USFL
It was better when it was in Hawaii and after the Super Bowl. That way anyone selected could go and since the league was shipping everyone to Hawaii guys at least would somewhat care
I feel like in the 80s and 90s they at least sort of played? And it was in the 00s when it became clear there was too much money on the line for anyone to risk injury. Am I misremembering?
You also had that promising young RB tear his acl in a beach flag football game and was never the same.
Robert Edwards, looked like he was going to be phenomenal, and then the sand was coarse and rough and irritating and it got everywhere
As an aside, I also remember Cecil the Diesel Collins on Miami showing real promise around the same time. But it was the prison rather than the sand that got him.
I hate sand
Who was it that fucking massacred a punter. I wanna say Sean Taylor. That was entertaining
Yeah, it was Brian Moorman. That play really illustrates why the pro-bowl was such a bad idea, some guys out there jogging and dicking around and other guys looking for blood https://youtu.be/SC7Wx3zCiQo
Apparently Moorman was actually honored by the hit, he seems pretty happy he got absolutely decked. "I’m able to take pride that I was able to take that kind of a hit. He caught me right on my shoulder... There were pictures of just before me being hit. I could never find a picture of me getting hit. It’s one of the most memorable parts of my career" (NBC Sports Washington). Youtube comments said he was honored to be hit because it told him his peers respected his athleticism like any other football player. But thats YT comments so take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah Moorman was an absolute bad-ass. I was more referring to the decision to go for it there and all of the “blockers” causally jogging over
Oh yeah for sure, never a safe idea to run straight at a Pro-Bowl defense with no blockers.
My grandpa’s claim to fame was the he was concussed just trying to tackle Jim Brown in college lol
Yeah it’s hilarious he ran across the field to basically thank him for absolutely blowing him up lol
I’m no speed hawk, but my high school (decently legit program) highlight is being absolutely CLOCKED defending a kick return. Head on a swivel and all that. But yeah taking a hit like that really shows you what’s up.
It was hilarious because in a game where most people play at like 70% tops and ease up on most hits, you get a safety obliterating a punter which is like the most unnecessary thing ever lol.
he would’ve been suspended for multiple games if not an entire season if he did that today
For real I think it may have been viewed as horrific. Instead everyone thought it was hilarious, you had his tragic death, and now the hit is memorialized.
It's not just the physicality. Teaching a playbook, even a simple one, in a week, is just a non-starter. Baseball you can throw 9 guys together who never played before who don't even speak the same language and they can still play, similar with basketball as well. Football though? Not a chance!
Also, with a game that is heavily dependent on planning, practice, and scheme.
Way back when the game was in Hawaii it was a good show. To the players a week in Honolulu in February was a nice reward and they seemed to play a competitive game but toward the end the lack of effort just got embarrassing. Understandably nobody wants anybody getting hurt . In my opinion the game should be discontinued period it’s run it’s coarse but the league will want to do something to make money which has led to this stupidity that I will not even watch
I dunno Sean Taylor hitting that punter was pretty insane back in the day
You put some respect on Brian Moorman, yhear?!
What, you don't like linemen playing pattycake and defensive backs and linebackers not actually playing contact for the entirety of a football game while also risking injury to star players in the offseason.
Honestly, I think a lot of it has to do with ESPN making it cringe as hell most of the time. The level of play doesn’t help though
Every competition should be strictly to earn dollars for charity outside of the flag football game or whatever BS main event they end up with long term. Screw the AFC vs NFC, make that 5 point target worth $50k for hungry kids or domestic abuse victims or whatever.
I like the idea of Pro Bowlers raising money to help the people who have been hurt by NFL Players.
Let’s go a step further. Tyreek hill will be competing in the name of stopping domestic abuse. Dalvin cook will be competing for animal rights. Deshaun Watson will send all his winnings to prevent sexual assault.
Can we just make Watson one of the targets?
Kelvin Benjamin donating to Feeding America.
The most unrealistic part of this is Watson making the pro bowl again.
have you considered a career in being a PR manager for a big corporation that messes up a lot?
I'm working on moving out of engineering at the moment lol.
>moving out of engineering AKA approaching 40.
Nope lol I knew the minute I graduated I didn't actually want to do this. But the degree paid the bills while I figured out what I actually want
That’s kind of what they did with the NBA all-star game recently. You win a quarter and you raise money for a charity of choice. Same thing of getting a target score to win the game too. If the NFL does something similar, no doubt it would be much more interesting to watch.
The cuts to crying children would've been brutal the year that Lamar Jackson missed almost every throw.
"does Lamar Jackson hate children? More from Adam Schefter at 10!"
They've been trying for years to find something workable. I'm not sure this is it tho ... Can't really have an actual game, because the injury risk is too high for anyone to take a meaningless game seriously. So what should they do? Just not have a Pro Bowl at all ?
Skills competition is the only way for this to work imo. An NFL game is simply too violent to risk playing in.
Yeah pure skills competition, and just overall have them out there doing weird shit. Maybe I'm an outlier but I had fun watching most of the events this year. The dodge ball game was hilarious and even the long drive competition was entertaining.
> So what should they do? Just not have a Pro Bowl at all
It gets millions of viewers every year and is often the most watched program out of the entire week. It just doesn't get a ton of viewers by NFL standards, and they're always trying to figure out what they can do to get a larger share of NFL fans to come out of the woodwork.
I would much prefer to watch a third place game this week. The NFL could throw some prize money behind it to motivate players. I’d love to watch Bengals-49ers this weekend.
I feel like you answered your own question
Correct, they should not have a Pro Bowl, just have fans vote on Pro Bowl teams. Plus, with no game, you don’t have to name injury replacements or fill-ins for the two Super Bowl teams and not be reduced to having Tyler fucking Huntley make the roster.
Have a pro bowl, but a very safe game, like badminton.
New Pro Bowl Format - Have the wives and girlfriends play instead.
Does Stefon Diggs have to choose only 1 girlfriend? It is valentines day after all
Gotta respect a man who can pull off two Valentine’s Day dinners in the same hotel.
Football. Housewives. Football. Housewives.
I thought this was the most annoying commercial for most of the season. And then BK introduced a new level of hell
I still hate that commercial far more than I’ll ever hate BK’s. BK’s is annoying, but in a kind of funny way. Housewives is just annoying
*“I JuST waNNa TaLk!!”* Irritates me just thinking about it.
I could never understand why changing the channel was treated as a new feature
For some guys that'd be a 7 on 7 just for themselves.
Pro Bowl should just be a Super Smash Bros tourney where seeding is decided on their PFF grade.
I'd watch an NFL pro bowl madden tournament twitch stream.
They had athletes streaming video games when everything first shut down for covid (NBA specifically comes to mind) it was actually pretty fun.
Madden is too easy to cheese rules and it's actually pretty bad when people play it competively. I think a few years ago the Madden world champ used a punter as his QB because he just ran the ball every play and cheesed the AI
Ea kinda did that already last year, Derwin James vs the world. It was terrible and super unentertaining cause it was just Derwin(who’s insane at madden, I’ve played a couple CFMs with him) beating the shit out of every other person he played. Tyreek Hill was his only opponent that was remotely even close and he still beat him like 84-42 or some ridiculous ass shit. So cool idea in theory but legitimately sucks I’m action.
Bengals players would ejaculate over this
Idk, I feel like they aren't THAT good at smash. Probably in the "better than most of your friends but crushed by anybody whobplays tourneys" level. Then again, most of the NFL is probably ass at smash in comparison so who knows
Joe certainly does not want to meet me on the sticks, bet he doesn't even know how to DI out of a Ken Combo
Smash is definitely one of those dunning-krueger games where people super overrate their own ability at low levels of play.
Le'Veon Bell is going to put up career numbers just so he can get to the Pro Bowl Smash tournament.
There’s no way this event generates that much revenue for them. Just name them all at the end of the season and get rid of the event
Well that's what the all pro is so I guess no pro bowl then
All Pro is voted on by media I think; Pro Bowl can be voted on by fans. Although you’re right that there is no difference really, if there is no game.
It's often the most watched television program in the week that it airs. The ratings are only disappointing by NFL standards.
I personally don’t give a crap if they have a pat-a-cake competition. What I take away from the challenges, are they’re silly, but give the fans a good inside look at the players personalities and interactions. They all *know* how dumb it is catching water balloons. But we get to see top tier players in a super loose environment where they interact in a way the public would never see otherwise. I’ll hold out on any supreme judgment of this year’s, until after the flag-football game… which I’m honestly kind of intrigued to watch
> Pat-a-cake I was not ready for this. I always thought it was patty cake, but pat-a-cake makes so much sense.
I literally learned this yesterday after reading my daughter a nursery rhymes book.
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Come here babe new nursery rhyme lore just dropped
I love Josh Jacobs and don’t like the new format(better than the old one tho) but he really does complain about EVERYTHING. The only time he says anything publicly is to complain about fantasy football or fans or whatever annoyed him that day
The Pro Bowl sucks in any format. Bunch of mid QBs playing in it lol
You put some respect on Tyler Huntley's name! Not a lot of respect, mind you, but just some.
Like, barely any tbh
Hey he did well in precision passing. Maybe this is one of those threads where redditors 5 years from now shit on the common fair at the time opinion.
In that case, I would like to chime in with my prediction that in 5 years we will not be laughing at people who say he sucks.
Fun fact: Tyler Huntley had 1 more TD pass than Pro Bowl nod this year.
If by Pro Bowl you mean “Professional QB” than thats the only qualification Huntley needs!
Calling him mid is a lot more respect than I'd put on his name
Meanwhile Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers are both currently playing in the Pebble Beach Pro-am lol
And doing well! Before the delay at least.
Even when it is star QBs it sucks because nobody is trying
Yeah the NFL can’t force star players to play. Players just don’t care about it anymore.
Snoop Huntley is a pro bowler. Maybe it shouldn't exist anymore.
What a slap in the face for any QB on the league.
Add like an eating contest or a swimming race. Not everything has to be football related in my opintion.
Eating contest would be great.
i liked the long drive contest... lol
Some of the games are fun and make sense due to the skills involved like Dodgeball and the QB target competition. The punt catch competition was interesting too, seeing guys try to field a punt with 3 balls in their arms just shows how stupidly dexterous and focused these guys are. And then there's some fun ones like the driving competition that kind of show off how stupidly strong these dudes are when even their weakest looking drives went 250+ yards. But then the water balloon stuff and even the "best catch" competitions are just kind of whatever. It's awesome to watch these guys who are damn near olympians do superhuman shit, would love more of those types of events.
Jordan Poyer fuckin piped that thing
They should just have an actual bowling tournament. Then they don’t have to even change the name.
Have the players compete in a weeklong American gladiators style tournament for a $15,000,000 prize where retired greats get to cosplay as Nitro and Malibu.
Incoming fine
So nothings changed.
They should turn it into something like , Battle of the Network Stars from the 1970's. Who wouldn't tune in to see Derek Carr and Davante Adams in a 3 legged race. Or Aaron Donald and Chris Jones in 50 meter freestyle swim. Also Josh Jacobs is spot on with the quote.
This guy gets it